Sociologist Arlie Russell Hochschild has been speaking with Trump supporters for her forthcoming book.
As Donald Trump selected Ohio Senator J.D. Vance to be his vice-presidential candidate Monday, we look at the record of the 39-year-old political rookie, who rose to fame after writing the memoirand who once compared Trump to Hitler and called him unfit for the presidency. He was elected to the Senate in 2022 with backing from right-wing billionaire Peter Thiel, and he has since embraced the MAGA movement and become one of Trump’s most loyal supporters.
Arlie Hochschild, thanks so much for being with us. If you can start off by just responding to the news yesterday that Donald Trump had chosen J.D. Vance to be his vice-presidential running mate? You have been on a panel when both your books were out,You know, I’m here in Pikeville, that is a 40-minute drive to Jackson, Kentucky, where Vance spent his summers, mainly with his Mamaw, who really brought him up when his mother succumbed to drugs.
So, what’s happened to Vance as a person sort of happened to this region, and not just this region. It used to be on the left, and it’s gone right. And so, what’s the wood that’s leading the fire? What’s the reason for this? I think that’s what my book is about, and that’s what I think we who are alarmed at this trend need to look at.Talk about your work and what you found over these years. We last spoke in 2016.
And I think Donald Trump comes in as the shame president. He comes in with an anti-shaming ritual that relieves them of this. And I think that’s a lot of the steam behind the MAGA enthusiasts for the Republican ticket. I thought your mama was going to be all right, be happy. I know I could have done better. But you, you’ve got to decide: You want to be somebody or not?J.D., don’t look at her. Come on. Come on. Don’t you look at — you look at me. You look at me.
There was a — in a recovery center, there was a man who had — was a coal miner. He got injured. He went to the doctor, was given OxyContin for pain management. He got addicted to OxyContin, and that led to other drugs. He became an addict. He lost his family. His wife left him. He lost custody of his children. He became homeless. And that man watched Donald Trump come to Kentucky, and Donald Trump was pumping his fist and saying, “I’m going to bring back coal. I’m going to bring back coal.
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