‘A weird new sort of fascism’ - ‘Trans-exclusionary’ views are not unlawful. So what gives self-appointed enforcers the right to police what can and cannot be said about transgender people?
‘Trans-exclusionary’ views are not unlawful. So what gives self-appointed enforcers the right to police what can and cannot be said about transgender people?
enragésanniversary retrospective of the Harry Potter films. Who is excluded from the jamboree because of her alleged transphobia? None other than the woman who made it all possible, Harry Potter’s creator,The divide is partly generational: the older liberal-left tends to sympathise with the harried and de-platformed Rowling and her ilk; younger people tend to think they’re getting their comeuppance.
Perhaps the most worrying case is that ofBased on her ordeal, I argued in an earlier article that trans campaigners are violating the basic democratic right to hold and express one’s own opinions, won by the thinkers of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment at enormous cost in blood.Read more: Mail & Guardian »
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Docstockk not accepting bigotry is not fascism ffs Should we protect the views of racists next? This is anti constitutional rubbish, we're not going backwards like terf island. It's giving 'I'm being attacked by the Trans taliban' Damn, South African journalism really has shrivelled up and died, hey? Maybe DON'T publish hate pieces by authors that don't have a single shred of research into the topics they're talking about.
What kind of fucked up article and tweet is this? Listen to transgender people about transgender issues. No one else. Its' THAT simple. Docstockk Great piece. Jesus Christ what ... who... HOW DID THIS GET TO PRINT Docstockk Glad this is being discussed. Gender identity is part of a belief system where gender identity supersedes biological sex incl in healthcare, social care and sexual orientation. Not all share this belief. It's not about trans rights which should be the same as everyone elses
This is deeply negligent reporting that fails to look at the resounding harm caused by gender-critical viewpoints. ILGA-Europe has drawn a direct link between anti-trans rhetoric and a rise in 332% hate crimes in 2021. Hire trans journalists. Nah, fascists using queer people as wedge issues to suck folks into fascism isn't weird or new, it's how they operate. Nice try being all 'no u' about it though.
Docstockk I take issue with this: “Their LBGTQ+ opponents accuse them of victimising already vulnerable trans women” What they forget is that a huge bulk of the GC community are actually LGB themselves. Stop lumping us together with the TQIA2S++ nonsense!!!
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Thoughtful essay that sums up nicely the issues that confront those who would dare to disagree with what is currently considered 'correct thinking.' When one group gets to decide what another is allowed to say, because of hurt feelings, we end up with tyranny... & nonsense. Exactly what you sound like: 'Why cant white people just say what they want about black people. Saying I cant be a racist piss stained diaper is whats the real fascism here.'
OldManZack Disgusting nonsense. Horrible stuff. An article that says it’s ok to criticize and demean people’s fundamental gender identity? Using some cherry-picked quotes? What next, an article defending homophobes because some “aren’t violent”? This drivel puts actual people at risk. Retract. Apologise.
Is it crack? ... what gives self-appointed enforcers the right to police what can and can't be said about black people... For the record, when someone avoids answering 'yes,' or 'no' to a fair question that could be easily answered with 'yes' or 'no,' it's reasonable to assume their reply is the more compromising of the two. 'Shut up' is not an argument. The only reasonable response to it is 'no.'
Docstockk 'The fight is centrally about whether trans women, who are physiologically male but experience themselves as women...'? That is impossible. Docstockk 'The fight is centrally about whether trans women, who are physiologically male but experience themselves as women...'. How does a man 'experience' himself as a woman? There's only one way to do that.
Docstockk Frankly, presented with that picture I’d look in any direction in 3 dimensions rather than what’s in front of me…
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I can't believe I managed to make it halfway through this bile. 🚩 This is disappointing & so dangerous. It's not free speech you are advocating for, it is hate speech. You are blatantly attacking the safety of trans people & calling your defense of it, free speech. The article harms the safety of trans people & I'm so sad to see it published
What purpose does publishing this (very badly written) op-ed serve? Under the guise of advocating for free speech it just seems to be looking for sympathy for Rowling and Stock — two very powerful women who have use their public platforms to harm others. 🙄 Slander and libel aren't illegal? Yes we need to punish bigots for their bigotry, it’s the only way
Not only does this get the law wrong (trans people in SA are recognised legally as the gender they identify) it scrapes the bottom of the barrel citing eg Gervais to make the point? We have beautiful inclusionary processes in SA, why choose to highlight this drivel? Have you read the WHRC declaration which most of the people you defend here have signed? That is fascism.
This is a deeply embarrassing column. I was waiting to see when the author would acknowledge he lives in a constitutional democracy underpinned by a bill of rights which offers full legal protection to trans people. You want to launch an anti-trans pogrom, go do that in the UK. This is dangerous, lazy journalism. Especially in SA where we have such a recent fascist history based on biological determinism (eg. ‘the pencil test’) - not liking JK rowling is not fascism; defining and excluding and enacting violence on people because of their body parts is
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because of her views on transgender. The world’s best-known feminist author, , has also fallen foul of the enragés In January Warner Brothers is to stage a 20 th anniversary retrospective of the Harry Potter films. Who is excluded from the jamboree because of her alleged transphobia? None other than the woman who made it all possible, Harry Potter’s creator, JK Rowling . The divide is partly generational: the older liberal-left tends to sympathise with the harried and de-platformed Rowling and her ilk; younger people tend to think they’re getting their comeuppance. The fight for South African leftists of the 1970s and 1980s was about enlarging freedom and breaking down barriers, particularly those imposed by apartheid. The new struggle is to restrict and keep people in line — and the internet is the new tool of enforcement. “I spoke up about the importance of sex and have been paying the price ever since,” writes Rowland about her Twitter traffic. “I was transphobic, a c ***, a bitch, a Terf. I deserved cancelling, punching and death.” Perhaps the most worrying case is that of Kathleen Stock , the gender-critical academic who was intimidated, harassed and abused until she resigned from Sussex University in August. Based on her ordeal, I argued in an earlier article that trans campaigners are violating the basic democratic right to hold and express one’s own opinions, won by the thinkers of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment at enormous cost in blood. I lamented the resurgent mediaeval practice of banning heretical ideas and punishing heretics. Perhaps fearing a twitterstorm, most publications keep their heads down. One complication is that barring a few free-market fundamentalists, most people have “red lines” where they feel free speech ends. Most democrats, for example, would draw the line at the advocacy of child pornography, slavery and genocide. So the underlying crux is the limits of free expression in a democratic society. Also at issue are the limits of protest, and when it shades into bullying and the intimidatory suppression of ideas. It is important to note that in both the United Kingdom and South Africa, it is quite legal to publicly maintain the unalterable maleness of trans women. A British employment tribunal ruled against Meyer Forstater , a tax expert who argued that her dismissal for allegedly transphobic tweets violated her workplace rights, but that does not bind the judiciary. Gender-critical scholars like Stock appear unanimous in condemning discrimination against trans people, except where they believe the security of women and girls is at stake. British law agrees, providing for “single and separate sex spaces” such as toilets and changerooms. As a legal category in South Africa, “unfair discrimination” specifically implies the unjust imposition of burdens or denial of benefits. It would be a Procrustean stretch to argue that Stock’s ideas have this effect. Is the gender-critical view hate speech? South African law specifically defines this as “advocacy of hatred” on prohibited grounds, including gender identity. UK statutes appear to outlaw any threatening or abusive communication intended to harass, alarm or distress. But Stock was clearly not advocating hatred or intending to harass — she is an academic, not a hate-monger; some might even consider her a victim of hatred. The university deplored her treatment and declared her innocent of “substantive wrong”. The South African law on hate speech law expressly exempts academic and scientific inquiry from its criminal provisions. Consider the following assertion by Rowling: “Trans women need and deserve protection … I feel nothing but empathy and solidarity with trans women who’ve been abused by men.” This does not sound like hate speech. Justifying the attempt to stop Greer from speaking at Cardiff University , the student women’s officer, Rachel Melhuish, declared that trans-exclusionary views had no place in society. Who is the self-appointed Melhuish to decide this? It is statements of this kind that prompted comic Ricky Gervais’s complaint of a “new weird sort of fascism, of people thinking they know what you can say and what you can’t”. One does not have to agree with Rowlings’ defence of her position – in fact, I disagree with her — but I defy any reasonable person to dismiss it as unhinged or irredeemably malevolent. At issue is the right, within the law, to have and express one’s own thoughts. The famous maxim attributed to French Enlightenment philosopher Voltaire applies: “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” If the trans enforcers are not upholding the law, what are they doing? Why must everyone march in lockstep on the femaleness of trans women? Why isn’t it enough, as Rowling terms it, to be a “trans ally” who opposes harassment, discrimination and violence against them? The purpose, it seems, is to create “safe” environments where trans people never have to hear what offends them. The question is whether that is the purpose of a university – or, indeed, of any democratic forum, the courts and legislatures, for example, where plain speaking and the free exchange of ideas are at a premium. Some academics complain that the current intolerant climate makes it impossible to explore trans sexuality and the important questions it raises. There are grave dangers in seeking to silence expressions that offend or hurt someone. Acknowledging this, the British parliament recently decriminalised the use of “insulting” language under the Public Order Act on grounds that it amounted to censorship. One consequence of shutting down voices is the debasement of intellectual exchange. How can belligerent hardliners set out to silence Greer, one of the age’s most important feminist thinkers and writers, because of her stance on one contentious issue? Coercively shielding people from emotional upset would be the death of independent journalism, higher education and the democratic political process.“University is not a safe space,” scientist and author reminds us. “If you need a safe space, go home, hug your teddy and suck your thumb until you’re ready for it.” Keep the powerful accountable