President Donald Trump was the most improved performer at Thursday's debate, but a panel of debate experts told NBC News that Joe Biden was more effective with his arguments.in Cleveland last month, but one noted,"That's a very low bar."
While Trump's strategy of interrupting less and letting Biden speak more in hopes of provoking a gaffe from the former vice president was sound strategy, the experts said Biden didn't make the type of major mistake Trump probably needed to change the race.Overall: "It was more relaxed" than the first debate, with fewer interruptions, especially early on, McKinney said. Trump's relative restraint made sense, but he added,"I don't think it was as effective in terms of the overall dynamics of the debate.""Donald Trump seemed at times certainly perturbed, but restrained himself and wasn't going for the jugular" like he did in the first debate, McKinney said.
Trump was mockingvand hostile. He didn't answer questions. But at least Biden hot to get his message out. He has thoughtful plans, will be inclusive of all Americans and strongly deal with the pandemic and economy. Biden won. Trump was same shit, different day.
In terms of quality the debate was a dead duck , but what was interesting was the statesmanlike behaviour of Biden as opposed to Trump’s buffoonery. Trump exemplifies everything that is negative about the US for those of us who are foreigners.
Biden won no doubt
First part true... second part laughable
So he went from a F to a D? Good boy!
Sounds like a note at the bottom of a report card. Most improved 🙄
False. Trump won the debate. Sleepy Joe was weak.
Biden is a LIAR
Oh, please...
Not to hard to better than that shitshow a month ago.
Most improved? Why? Bc he wasn’t a bantering baboon this time? Joe has remained calm classy n respectful this whole time! Most improved Bc he’s a fkng evil spawn of Satan who was forced to keep his mouth shut u mean?
Biden.
Could the standard get any lower.
Trump was a condescending prick.
Of course
When the bar is set low enough... just standing and breathing are deemed signs of improvement. Sure, he depicted an actual human on the outside, but he was still the same non-human on the inside, spewing copious levels of garbage.
Most improved? They had to implement a mute button to keep him in check! But yes, let’s applaud that he wasn’t as bat shit crazy, that’s a bar I want to hold a president up to
Duh!
Please. How low was the bar set?
Trump - most improved student (from D- to C+) Biden - did the homework, was prepared and more effective (A)
I suspect -- really, just spitballing here -- I suspect that's because Trump didn't offer anything worthwhile.
BidenHarris2020 BidenWon TrumpIsNotWell
Most improved? So the lunatic didn't ramble over Biden 'every' time he spoke! He still continued his ongoing lies and propaganda. Non stop BS should be mentioned by the news crews with no gaps!
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah....you hate Trump, yeah we get it NBC!!🙄
Can't wean yourself off of the Trump drug media money
TrumpIsPathetic
We’ve come to know and expect the complete outrageousness and ignorance of Trumps behavior that when he doesn’t act like a rabid animal, people say good boy, good boy!
Go BIDEN 💙💙🙏
Joe Biden lied about the Biden crime family. He called President trumpLincoln. He lied about Hunter's emails. His biggest mistake was calling out Rudy Giuliani. Never cross a person who has pictures from Hunter's laptop. Embarrassing for sure
Most Improved? How could he get any Worse? 🙄
😂😂😂 most improved. Sounds like a grade school grade.
IAmSophiaNelson The media is so willing to give this buffoon a positive review just because he didn't act as dumb as he did on the first debate. Such a low bar for someone occupying the Oval Office.
We'd expect nothing less from you're completely biased view. Joe is so Guilty it's pathetic.
He is not a debater please don’t say he did a good job because they put a muzzle on him. Bar is so low.
I was really disappointed with joe biden,he wasn't very clear h3 could have done a lot better ,he could've capitalised on trump's disastrous handling of his term, should've really ripped into him.
There were two of them. “More effective” is correct. “Most improved” is not.
Bullshit
Most improved? Is this kindergarten? They had to mute him to force him to behave. 🙄
LMMFAO ... Most improved performer? 😂 😂😂. What is this preschool? Or wait maybe the Oscars ...sadly, he thinks he'll get a gold star or an award for BEST PERFORMANCE 🙄🙄🙄
Trump streamed endless lies, didn’t share a single detail of any policy plans, talked as though he was debating people who aren’t running for president, and cast blame as though he isn’t the current president. “Most improved performer”? How is that a headline?
Trump set the bar lower than we’ve ever seen before on the first debate
Most improvement trump has is let mic shut up his mouth while the other is speaking.
I like class. tRUMP has none
Most improved indeed! If one goes from the bottom of a slop pail to the top of a slop pail, that is an improvement, that’s what realDonaldTrump did last night the man is still a toxic pile of slop!
Well this citizen who is voting was able to clearly see that JoeBiden is a mess and is losing in a LANDSLIdE. 4 days practicing and that... Come on Man
Crooked Biden can’t even think straight ... if he wins.kiss ur Butt n money n jobs good bye... I told u so...
The most effective argument was ... Joe you had 8 years to get these things done prior... but you didn’t. Corrupt Joe family. 47 year failed career politician.
Such a low standard for trump that him not interrupting, equals improvement. Barf. He stood up there and LIED throughout the debate. Like usual.
Trump's school teacher gave him a star for effort.
Of course NBC supports Biden ... is that a surprise bias
Admittedly, the bar is low for Trump - but he didn’t yell too much, scream frantically or pee on the Stage - so for him, it was a good night!..
Most improved liar.
Trump was definitely improved in terms of temperament and style. But we were comparing to debate 1, which was a train wreck.
Uh huh
So he doesn't smear monkey shit on the walls and the experts formulate an improvement in his performance? He's a flailing sociopath!
Of course he was the “most improved performer” since he could not have done any worse then his first....
Trump gets credit for the mute button cutting down on his ability to interrupt with bully rants for the whole debate?
Most improved? Not hard when the first performance rivaled a toddlers meltdown over not eating peas!
Jesus Christ is that where we are now? The President of the United States didn’t act a fool this time so let’s call it most improved? I guess when the bar is so low you can only go up from the last non-debate. 🤦♀️🤬 11DAYS BidenHarris2020Landslide TrumpForPrison ByEDON2020
realDonaldTrump debate performance can be summed up as the 4YO brat who was well behaved on a recent trip to the grocery store w Mom. Now home, he won’t 🛑 bugging Mom to call Gma and tell her. We all know that kid & we all want to beat his ass when he gets to Middle School!
I don’t think you need a panel of debate experts to reach this conclusion..... 🙄
There should be a middle... They are two completely, extremely opposite from each other. It's very scary that these are the ONLY choices....😩
most improved? pathetic that he has to get credit for advancing from a 2 yr old to a 4 yr old.
How is the a fucking question? Media is worse than Malenia!
I got most improved in the 1st grade for learning to to my shoes. He gets it for not screaming over everyone at a presidential debate. Go Trump. eyeroll
He would have been more effective that being Joe. But Trump is not focused driven enough to come with different content instead of the old utterances. If he can only change that line of projection to a different level. But he is rooted that way really. What sound good matters.
Columbia University’s report on the administration’s handling of the virus: Inept is too kind
Yes. Trump demonstrated he was able to control himself better than the first debate. Biden demonstrated he should be the next president of the US.
The media has gotten as sick as Trump throughout this nightmare. When are lies deemed an improved performance when talking about the well being if this country? JFC
IOW, Trump didn’t act like a raging lunatic like last time. How low is the bar set for Trump? BidenWonTheDebate
freddyatton You get no points for acting like an adult when you previously acted like a child. It doesn't work that way.
Trump was very nasty telling lies in every one of his statement. What a wretched human being. I feel ashamed and am sure so do the other Americans. Biden you could see felt hurt at times due to all those lies from this POTUS PresidentialDebate realDonaldTrump JoeBiden
Joe came across as an old fool
JoeBiden was the only one on the stage who has cogent plans, mature personality, respects the Am. people, has empathy and understanding of the lives of Americans and will work for us every day of his presidency.
More subdued...if you consider that improved I guess
IAmSophiaNelson Performer? This is not a circus. He told one lie after another. The media is as sick as he is.
Donald was like a carnival barker. And nobody stopped him. Hate people like him who waste my time.
Let's not forget that the reason Trump was more mellow is because they were MUTING THE MICS. Also, him being more mellow actually made it more apparent that he has no plans in place at all. He might've been better off ranting. The irony is too much.
Most improved? That's like something get on your school report! 😂
Lies are insults, and that’s what trump served up tonight.
BS
NBC debate “experts”. Don’t make me laugh. realDonaldTrump won that debate. No question.
I don't know how I'm going to regain trust in the main stream media again! I no longer know what is true when they report!
The bar is so unbelievably low for president buffoon.
IAmSophiaNelson Yes trump lied more quietly. Outstanding
IAmSophiaNelson Joe is still a better human being than Trump...
You guys suck so bad. You need to clean house.
Yeah a panel of “experts” that were all on the left. America knows your no longer an unbiased news source NBC. We used to trust you but you broke our trust with lies and obvious partisanship. Sad
Swap 'arguments' with 'false promises'.
Ask the people not the so called experts who won this debate!!
He was tame this time because he knew his mic will be turn off
“Most improved”! Compared to what? He’s a train wreck, a buffoon.
“most improved”! Well, he started at rock bottom, stopping him interrupting would be a just one improvement.
BS
Too little. Too late. Praising poor old Joe won't help. The only thing that might help is to say that Trump worked with Hunter. I'm not political. I'm analytical.
Is this a joke site now?
Wow. Did I just hear Biden throw away any chance of winning Pennsylvania!! Up to that point it was fairly even. The muted mics actually helped Trump by keeping him in line. Big own goal for the Dems
Off course most improved of himself because there’s nowhere else to go when you’ve being in the gutter for so long.
Biden had plans. Trump had nothing but lies and deflections.
lachic288 Most improved? Is this high school? Debates2020
WTF!!! Most improved? So now you’re blowing kisses to TraitorTrump to avoid hurting the narcissist’s feelings? You’re a news organization. Act like it.
Most improved? Seriously?!?! After how this clown behaved, the only way was up. Such a joke!
which planet are these EXPERTS from haha Thank you but am my own EXPERT Trumpn won
Biden
The bar was so low most improved ain’t saying much
Yea, but by this stage of the game there shouldn't be gold stars for actually 'improving' to the point of being slightly more civilized in a debate.
Trump’s radical/authoritarian style, including lying/false propaganda/discrimination/hate reminds me of the nazi era ... highly dangerous/destructive. Trump also reminds me of Opium drug lord William Jardine and his atrocities/Trump has no scruples, empathy or respect...
Having arguments helps.
🤣🤣🤣 how was he more effective how do you measure that? lies lies lies!
Improved ? He’s still lying about Covid !!
Trump told fewer lies this time.
He set himself a low bar. This time he wasnt a raving lunatic, just an average lunatic. Throwing BS at Biden, trying to get something to stick. No substance whatsoever. Already voted, shouldn't have watched. 90 min of my life I'll never get back.
I agree, he was more well behaved. Esp in the beginning. But that exposed him as a fraud when it comes to discussing the issues. He went with his disinformation campaign towards the end & landed a few blows.
The real debate 'experts' will let us know who won on the issues on Nov 3rd.
Drumpf looked heavily medicated and stupefied in the snippets I saw...
Joe Biden stood up this round, good job Joe Biden
Trump's debate performance was 'improved' by muting?
Biden wins this
Funny how CNN and show Biden as the clear winner but every single twitter poll with hundreds of thousands of votes shows Trump dominated.
Effective with jabs! That doesn’t make him a GOOD Leader
What is very said is that we now give a sitting president style points for adult behavior, knowing his comments were utterly lacking in substance, based mostly on lies!
Anything after that Shit Show would be an improvement. I think you need a different yard stick to measure from. Biden clearly won this debate, and once again all Trump does is lie, lie, lie!
He keeps going on & on & on about Bidens son . Way to deflect. What about your kids?! Not a word from Biden. He has respect and integrity
Most improved from staggering interrupting oaf Yeah..ok
LeslieMarshall Joe Biden winner of the most lies.
Sad you used to be a news station.
Joe Biden won
Improved at what?
Biden
Hard not to improve from horrible.
He's done nothing but Lie voluminously daily his whole awful presidency. There's no point in listening to him. He & his enablers have been & are destroying this nation. Vote to end this sh**show.
Well, doesn't take much to improve from rock bottom does it.
It’s easy to be most improved when your previous effort scored 1/10 TrumpIsPathetic TrumpMeltdown
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Give me a break
Trump didn’t throw poop or pee himself....good job 🙄
sveinfr
Easy to improve from being “lousy”.
Most improved? Is this a first grader we're talking about or the leader of the free world? Low expectations is what got us the lowest of humans in our peoples house. Do better
All he did was slow down the bullshit.
Yeah too bad they are dems
Hahaha Trump won that debate hands down!
Why did not report the Tony Bobulinski Whistleblower Press Conference on the Hunter and Joe Biden China Corruption? The American People deserve to hear this news from you.
He literally lied saying he wasn’t against fracking.
Stupid headline. Again the mistakes form 2026 you will never learn. Trump had nothing of value to add. No plan for the next 4 years. No policy
By improved do you mean he didn’t act like a raving lunatic but just a lying incompetent?
Most improved performer? Sounds like some kind of contest. NBC paved the way to the worst president of United States. You provided Trump a distasteful Town Hall. Getting Trump’s audience was hard for your network to resist. Maybe you got another job for him after his term?
This tweet sucks. Do better NBC News.
Trump’s Chinese secret bank account is still active.
Damn! The President was the most Improved Performer tonite? Wow! The President didn't have an Old man meltdown at tonight's debate and we say most improved. How can you teach children about standards when we just dropped the bar on the Ground for Donald Trump!
Seriously?! More participation trophies? Y’all are really making me move away from network tv.
I’m surprised trump didn’t open his mouth and blood didn’t pour out the amount he was biting his tongue. But kudos s to him he actually talked ish for 90 mins
He didn’t have to do much to improve! And, he didn’t! Still the lies flowed forth!!
Panels suck. That’s the problem
Joe was sharper and had a better command of the facts. Trump had improved style, but his substance was just pure garbage. Almost everything out of Donald's mouth was a lie or exaggeration.
Their both shite 👌😹👌😹👌😹👌😹👌😹
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