Trump underperformed in most counties where he held large rallies

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Many saw President Trump’s rallies as a sign of big enthusiasm, but data suggest the visits did not produce the desired impact for the president. - MeetThePress

Comparing Trump campaign stops over the last two weeks of the race to election results shows that in the overwhelming majority of cases, Trump underperformed his 2016 margins in the counties he visited, in some cases by large amounts.

Crowd sizes are often held out as a way to gauge support for a politician, and sometimes they are. But during a pandemic, with a polarizing candidate on the stump, it’s possible the meaning of the rallies were misread. While the crowds were visible sign of enthusiasm for Trump, there were much bigger, and less visible, groups of people who were not at the rallies and who may have seen them in a negative light.

On Oct. 27, Trump held a rally in Ingham County, the home of Lansing, and in the election results he did 5.5 percentage points worse than he did in 2016 as Joe Biden beat him there by more than 32 points. On Oct. 30, Trump held an event in Oakland County north of Detroit. He lost Oakland by 14 points this year — 6 points worse than he did in 2016. And on Nov. 2, Trump held a rally in Grand Traverse County in the northern reaches of the state.

There were a few bright spots on the Trump campaign tour, particularly in Florida, one of the battlegrounds he carried in 2020. Trump visited the state four times in the last two weeks of the campaign, and while he didn’t improve in most of the places he visited, his numbers got a lot better in Miami-Dade.

 

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MeetThePress Who knows how many of his narcissistic adulation feeding rally crowds were camp followers bussed in from elsewhere? It's a non-zero number.

MeetThePress And yet NBC News ignores the elephant in the room with their title, that the President killed his base that attended his DEATH rallies of SUPPOSED pro-lifers, that in truth all were just ignorant members proclaiming to be patriots but their actions prove they are just racists

MeetThePress Tee Hee

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MeetThePress realDonaldTrump think quality not quantity. Pretty simple.

MeetThePress I'm unfollowing and MSNBC because they seem to be posting an over abundance of stories about Trump, more so than is needed and necessary and spinning a positive on them.

MeetThePress melania says he underperforms for her too

BettyBuckley MeetThePress On the morning of his rally, there were 133 cases of coronavirus in our county. Now we have almost 6,400. Trump lost our county by 1,000 votes.

MeetThePress Same ppl going to all the events.

MeetThePress Thats because CNN and MSNBC censored his rallies. Only Fox carried them life.

MeetThePress You mean openly killing your own supporters isn’t politically beneficial?

MeetThePress Trump did however slaughter Americans coast to coast with his incompetent handling of the pandemic.

MeetThePress I saw Super Spreaders.

MeetThePress No shit.

MeetThePress An entertainment event with a mob hate mentality, there is no love for country at his rallies.

MeetThePress All smoke and mirrors anyway

MeetThePress Lies

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MeetThePress The visits, encouraging crowds and virus spread, probably angered some of trump’s followers.

MeetThePress Of course, the fraud destroy the democracy in USA. Now the computers choose the President , the people , enthusiasm who cares about it

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MeetThePress Yes...just Trump celebrity rallies. The hicks that go see trump don't do it for politics. They are just bored idiots.

MeetThePress Nothing but Nazee rallies

MeetThePress I think it was successful in what Trump wanted. Instant adoration.

MeetThePress Probably if he had done a good job we would have noticed.

MeetThePress You mean ranting to the same core group of people that are already voting for you doesn’t increase your following?

SpiroAgnewGhost MeetThePress SuperSpreaderEvents

MeetThePress He got 74,000,000 votes and made it closer than anyone thought he could. I'm not sure how you expected these things to work...?

MeetThePress You using Dominion 'data'? 😂😂😂🙄 Biden cheated. Pass it on.

MeetThePress You guys must really think the American people are stupid. The election was stolen and Trump won by a landslide.

MeetThePress Pretty sure republicans had our red wave.

MeetThePress I still can’t believe he got as many votes as he did🤦‍♀️

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MeetThePress Those brainless people obviously don’t work. They hot nothing better to do. I’d prefer illegal immigrants over these bone and tin head Americans. At least they want to work.

MeetThePress You mean Trump not paying his enormous bills and spreading Covid 19 wasn’t a winning strategy?

MeetThePress Just because you bus people in for $15 an hour is no guarantee they will vote for you. If you're in the hospital with COVID after one of his rallies, you probably didn't vote either.

MeetThePress Why don't you wait quietly for what the Supreme Court will decide?

MeetThePress fakenews

MeetThePress People wanted to see if he was as crazy as he looked on TV - he's a curiosity, that's all.

MeetThePress Haha, you r clowns

rayton_mike MeetThePress All he accomplished was spreading covid 19

MeetThePress No one rallied for Biden because Biden is boring and no one gives a shit about him. Millions of people hate trump. trump didn't lose to Biden. trump lost to himself.

MeetThePress U wish that was true nbc

MeetThePress WRONG FRAUD

MeetThePress Because they had time to get COVID before voting, how many blame Trump for giving them COVID, then voted against him?

MeetThePress Not enough people were paid to vote for him like they were paid to attend rallies

MeetThePress CONTACT Cyrus Vance Jr & Letitia James of NY .....to PROSECUTE 45 for ALL of it ..DECADES of his BullSH! Dude needs PRISON time... at the very least ..for the many COVID deaths (CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY) and his other legal MESS! & by the way..Happy Thanksgiving 🦃!

MeetThePress Article from a Liberal Dem News Reporter Dchinni who tweets & retweets anything he thinks makes Trump look bad. Like he might suggest The Senate election in Georgia is not as much about Trump but about Biden and the extreme Liberal Dems that want to take over this country.🇺🇸

MeetThePress Never give in👊, never give up.👍 Thank you SidneyPowell1 & LLinWood Michigan & Georgia lawsuits filed. Over 51% meets burden of proof.

MeetThePress Result shows that Biden is better than Obama and Hillary combined. Biden will be the best president in history.

MeetThePress Bwaaa!!!

MeetThePress realDonaldTrump

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MeetThePress 😂

MeetThePress Gee - maybe because he served merely as a Typhoid Mary?

MeetThePress The DNC really need to go back and see what went wrong in Miami-Dade.

MeetThePress Had he only held those rallies in a warehouse full of Dominion voting machines...

lauferlaw MeetThePress Trump paid them to attend rallies.

lauferlaw MeetThePress Probably because they were sick in bed with covid.

MeetThePress Speeches were borrrrish repetitive no content, blah

MeetThePress And called rallies Vs demonstrations and/or protests is worth noting.

MeetThePress STUPID & INACCURATE ...Reports like this are what gives news media it’s low credibility ratings ... 👎👎

MeetThePress You all sacrificed your careers for a lie. You no longer have any Credibility or Integrity forever from here on. That is known now by well over half the U.S. The media and its personnel have been made the biggest Dupes by Democrat politicians.

MeetThePress More NBC propaganda. So, Biden rallies of 10-20 were effective? Let's here your analysis of the man staying mostly in a basement SUPPOSEDLY receiving far more votes than the 1st black President? The media will never recover from this nonsense of concoctions and total bias.

MeetThePress That's what happens when fraud is committed.

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MeetThePress His “visits” became COVID super spreaders. All those people had to go home and go to work after. Look at all the infections 3 weeks later. That’s the truth

MeetThePress Rally goers sick or dead 💀

MeetThePress Trump might have won if he shut up🤣

MeetThePress His rally’s are only for the fervent fans. They didn’t expand past that. Because-they couldn’t.

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MeetThePress You know why? Because the big crowd were paid actors. Huh!

MeetThePress But the lawn signs!

MeetThePress Lol realDonaldTrump REPUBLICANCAMP2

MeetThePress I'd like to know which rally Dan Scavino posted that Trump is retweeting as proof he won.

lauferlaw MeetThePress The only piece of data that matters is election results. That data is a lot more than just suggestive.

MeetThePress For example, the Woman who had a chance to speak to Trump and then went and voted for Biden.

MeetThePress I have to ask why Biden isn’t speaking out about all of the comments here? Biden promised he would unify the country! Why isn’t he denouncing all of the hatred I’m seeing on Twitter from his supporters? 🤔🙄😡

MeetThePress When a presumed positive, turns into a large negative. Trump showed no regard the health of the people in the rally States ( didn’t pay for the yet either). Easy to bring in a few thousand to an isolated area - then leave some stranded for hours. General population was pissed off

SpiroAgnewGhost MeetThePress That’s because they were just shows. The shallowness of them didn’t lead to any thoughtful votes. No agenda, no inspiration; just nastiness and lies for 120mins (and then a 3mile walk back to the car 😂

SpiroAgnewGhost MeetThePress Trump rallies are just dumb ways to die.

MeetThePress Right NBC. You guys are so corrupt. Trump won easily and you know it

MeetThePress That’s what happens when you exaggerate crowd sizes and probably pay people to show up.

MeetThePress NBC is the new National Enquirer

MeetThePress The only data that counts is that which remains after AuditTheVote

MeetThePress Hard to vote when your quarantined from superspreader rallies...

SpiroAgnewGhost MeetThePress You mean to tell me that rallies in Elko didn’t carry Nevada for him and in Bullcrap City didn’t carry Arizona?!?

MeetThePress But did he increase COVID infections?

MeetThePress Heck even Trump saw those rallies as a sign of winning the election. But let’s be real, some of those folks showed up just for the fun of it. When it came time to vote, they got serious.

MeetThePress NBC is the fake news liars network filled with scum sucking cockroaches. You are pathetic.

MeetThePress How do you explain that President Trump got 10 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016 then?

MeetThePress huh, weird... you'd think he would convince at least a few of the people who stood in line during a pandemic for 6 hours to get into his rally

MeetThePress The hardliners of any party are not who you want to spend most of your time on, its the ones in the middle, the undecided, they are the change makers, I think he forgot that once too often.

MeetThePress See smart people saw his rallies as his Farewell tour

lauferlaw MeetThePress But the Vanky voting machines delivered! KY & SC

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MeetThePress Sharing facts based in data make no difference to realDonaldTrump and his cult followers.

lauferlaw MeetThePress It was a snoozefest. Trump played his 'Greatest Hits' every time to the same ugly people who treated it as though they were on some nationwide klan tour. Many of them were like.. 'This is my 11th MAGA rally!' LMAOOOOO

lauferlaw MeetThePress The attendees were too sick to vote. After all the rallies were mostly unmasked.

MeetThePress NBC LIES...LIES...LIES...LIES! STINKING SCUMBAG MEDIA ELITES.

MeetThePress You mean that it was a constant case of super-spreader events with occasional hypothermia or heat stroke.

MeetThePress I have a Melania joke but you probably heard Michelle say it first. Follow me Michelleobama

MeetThePress I think most people went purely for the entertainment value. Is that any surprise ?

MeetThePress Perhaps holding a rally in Erie, Pa, then whining at that rally that he actually had to come to Erie was a bad move.

SpiroAgnewGhost MeetThePress I believe that many went there as a voyeurs and not always as a partisan.Trump is a show man, a clown, a scattered man who never really knew who he really was in the end and who passed that on to his children. Quite a legacy.

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MeetThePress Just because people like going to the circus doesn’t mean they’ll vote for the sideshow barker clown.

MeetThePress ‘Data suggests’? You mean 80 million voters? 🙄Dumb.

MeetThePress What's the surprise? People saw CaptainCrazypants rambling on endlessly. No substance, no platform, just demeaning democrats, insulting lies about & crazy chants. 45 put his crazy on display. Who votes for the 5th grade bully?

MeetThePress Probably because many wound up testing cocoa covid positive.

MeetThePress The paid extras just wanted the cash.

MeetThePress 😂 bullshit. Joe had six people at his rally and got over 80 million votes. You don’t believe that nonsense do you?

MeetThePress His supporters also think big MAGA flags mean a big win! Boy are they ever stupid.

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SpiroAgnewGhost MeetThePress I figured he would have underperformed in those cities. It was an optical illusion, they felt “too perfect”. On the other hand, Trump should have had more rallies in Miami-Dade

MeetThePress Not surprising. Those attending now have a high chance of getting COVID. Those who stayed behind but were for him likely split. Those who stayed behind as they don't follow him totally annihilated him. If in healthcare in the midwest, how could you possibly vote Trump.

MeetThePress Get a clue. It's fraud. Duh. Biden had pathetic rallies and stayed in his basement most of the time, gets more votes than ANY president EVER, including Obama. FRAUD.

MeetThePress No kidding. Nutjobs took the time and effort to see the sideshow . His wacky,conceited ,lying speeches just made him less likable to any objective person . Never got the “oh,a lot of reasonable people like him,Maybe I’ll like him “ reaction to rallies .

MeetThePress PROPAGANDA!

MeetThePress You mean the 6 million more votes Biden got wasn’t evidence enough? What other data do you need lol.

MeetThePress Many? How many? Did they all work for the media?

MeetThePress Because they were so obviously irresponsible and dangerous! Anyone with half a brain would've stayed away and been appalled at the idea of a huge gathering of anti-mask idiots.

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MeetThePress [Stop stealing] There are even larger demonstrations. Why doesn’t the media pay attention to US campaign fraud?

MeetThePress Biden couldn’t fill a parking lot.

MeetThePress Once you see crazy in person, you never forget it! 🤪

MeetThePress They just went for the entertainment value, like going to a WWE event.

MeetThePress That's because he held the events in urban areas and people came in from other areas to attend his rallies

MeetThePress people probably went just to see him act like a jerk and say mean things, they probably didn't even vote for him, just wanted to see the show.

MeetThePress He won in a landslide.

MeetThePress No shit....it’s like an old Grateful Dead concert—-where and who are all of these people? Then you never see them again outside of some spotty bumper stickers.

MeetThePress No way 45 got 75 million legal votes!

MeetThePress Many that attended probably got sick and he didn't count on that or care. The crowds only fueled his ego. All he did was cause more chaos and divide with his nonsense rhetoric. Hes a joke

MeetThePress Not many. The MEDIA confuses RACIST, HATRED, RAGES, of trump's cult, with ENTHUSIASM.

MeetThePress Just more infections.

MeetThePress that's because the rallies didn't include many of the folks with actually lived in the tiny towns in my state that he visited, they came in long streams of out of state cars

MeetThePress Say what now? realDonaldTrump won more votes than BarackObama did in either of his two presidential elections.

MeetThePress Yeah all those people drove and waiting in line to see him because they weren’t serious voters they were kicking the tires. Pathetic how you spin stuff.

MeetThePress Maybe they were all at home sick with Covid...

MeetThePress That is because many of the same people, traveled from rally to rally. The were dead in the heads fans.

MeetThePress Agreed, I didn’t attend any rallies, but I can tell you that the Trump rally’s didn’t impress me in the slightest. Lies, lies, and more lies out of the President of the United States, hard to believe but true.

MeetThePress Like Dave Chapelle said. Trump’s like a guy with a bag of hamburgers going into a homeless camp and starts eating hamberders, saying “Damn, these hamburgers are good!” Without sharing the tasty burgers with anyone.

MeetThePress Because he killed some of his supporters by his super spreader events.

MeetThePress Rally attendees all got covid and could not vote 😆

MeetThePress So holding a super spreader for a killer virus event did not make Trump popular in those communities?

MeetThePress He belongs at shawshank prison. With bogs and the sisters.

MeetThePress Impact was good. Dems. Changing rules

MeetThePress “No shit.” -80,000,000 + legal voters

MeetThePress FU NBC CorruptMSM

MeetThePress That argument makes all Trump supporters seem so stupid. 'Biden couldn't have won, cuz his crowds were small' is truly idiotic. There was a pandemic, Joe & Kamala didn't hold rallies because they care about U.S. Also: crowd sizes are not proportional to the entire population.

MeetThePress The trumps all thought large rally crowds, yard signs and red hats won elections. But it’s votes that count and 80 million said he was fired!

MeetThePress They went to see the spectacle.

MeetThePress The FAKE NEWS Refuses To Investigate The TRUTH~~In Pennsylvania Over 20,000 Ballots Were Mailed And Returned The Same Day?.....Thousands Of Ballots Were Mailed In November And Returned In October?...These Ballots If Removed Would Change The Results Of The Election.

MeetThePress Since some of this people were bused from venue to venue

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MeetThePress In the end this nation will find out that NBC was involved in interfering with the StopTheSteaI election.

MeetThePress When they were paid to be there, and they attended multiple, but could only vote 1 time, might be a hitch.

MeetThePress And the stupidity continues.... Thank goodness I’m not able to be brainwashed by the media’s lies

MeetThePress How does sleepy Joe get 80 million votes? You fools believe he was bigger than Obama? This election was a fraud.

MeetThePress Sure. Basement rallies work better. If you can program the voting machines to work for you.

MeetThePress The people who thought his rally turnouts would translate to a win are the same people who think WWE storylines are real

MeetThePress Not least surprised.

MeetThePress Freak shows attract big crowds.

MeetThePress Jane Fonda called the COVID-19 pandemic 'God's gift to the Left.' that tells the opportunism of the Democratic Party. Do they care about the 200K+ Americans, or do they consider these unfortunate victims to be props to use in the anti-Trump drama they subject us to day after day?

MeetThePress Although we have lost this time I am optimistic for the GOP's chances in 2024.

MeetThePress The Republicans don't seem to understand the concept of 'virtual.' People don't need to meet in person.

MeetThePress Trump won Georgia

MeetThePress Of course they did. Trump’s problem was his performance on Covid perceived to be weak especially among early voters.

MeetThePress Y’all lie about anything. FakeNews

MeetThePress But they did produce massive impacts in other ways:

MeetThePress they might have been mad about the being stranded in the cold part

MeetThePress What? Public masturbation sessions by the biggest narcissist on the planet actually had no strategy behind them and no measurable effect on the election Knock me over with a feather!

MeetThePress NBC has been unamerican since Trump was elected!

MeetThePress It produced a lot of COVID spread!

MeetThePress Because the DEMON👹RATS🐀 rigged the election

MeetThePress The people who thought his rally turnouts would translate to a win are the same people who think WWE storylines are real

MeetThePress Bullshit please report the truth

MeetThePress That is because it was like going to a side show. Just entertainment. No true information.

MeetThePress Sure it did. Tho most legal votes in a presidential election.

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MeetThePress They died of Covid

MeetThePress Yeah he’s a fake he’s weak he is not a president

MeetThePress Wonder how many got CVID and couldn’t vote.

MeetThePress Turmoil chaotic

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MeetThePress Simple answer. People were paid to attend. They came from all over, not just the city, county or (even) state the rallies were held in.

MeetThePress People attended from outside those areas, sometimes paid to be there by the campaign. All he brought to the locals was COVID.

MeetThePress Basically, Trump rallies are a bunch of wacko fests led by Wacko in Chief! 😉

MeetThePress TRUMP is a DEPRAVED LAWLESS ONE filled w/Wicked Deceptions & Welcoming MANY Morons refusing to accept truth; TRUMP creates strong Delusions CAUSING MANY to accept & take PLEASURE in his Wicked Deceptions only leading to their OWN Guilt & Condemnation.

MeetThePress Really? 73,000,000 million votes is under performance? Only data that matters is the false 80,000,000 votes for Biden

MeetThePress That's a fat lie. Is the mail in ballots the democrats used to steal the elections?

MeetThePress Shhh, Donald might hear you, those people was entertained like going to a concert, then you go home to the real world😑

MeetThePress Wonder how many people at those massive rallies weren’t actually from the area.

MeetThePress Wonder how many morons left the rallies with COVID19.

MeetThePress Paid participants

MeetThePress And Joe that got 5 per at a rally got him 80 votes. More than big ears? What kind of dope are you smoking? The election is a fraud and people WILL go to jail. Don’t be that guy. Hiding behind journalism won’t save you.

MeetThePress Gee, you mean maskless rallies within a cult didn’t turn into votes. Whoulda thunk it? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

MeetThePress The election was stolen by the Democratic Party

MeetThePress Because his voters caught COVID19

MeetThePress Loser fests during a pandemic. Nothing else to do but listen to the orange man do standup. Entertainment for dopes.

MeetThePress Georgia Judge orders voting machines impounded immediately to preserve evidence.

MeetThePress Duh. He lost.

MeetThePress We've listened to Trump for 4 yrs. Can we not hear his voice and you could just report on him, or even better-not cover him at all. I like when reporters write 'T****' rather than even spell his name.

MeetThePress Of course they for the show, seriously... We saw it, it is what it is..

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