To Rebel in The Times: Jack River in Conversation with Peter Garrett

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Australian pop music crusader Jack River chats to music icon and activist Peter Garrett about post-apocalyptic Australia, soft revolutions, political hope, and more (via rollingstoneaus)

It is 2020. The hells of the bushfire season have whipped our country into a whirl of political, social and environmental hysteria. There is a virus circulating the Earth at warp speed, threatening a significant percentage of the human population.

I think that’s quite understandable because all your senses are very alert and alive and you’re thinking a lot about the world that essentially you’re starting to take your place in. And you can see with probably more clarity than older people can, what really needs to be addressed and what’s going on. At the same time, you’re impatient and frustrated when you put your shoulder to the wheel and the wheel doesn’t move.

I’ve never really felt helpless at all. Partly because no matter how much the blinds are drawn I can usually see a glimmer of light through the window. And I am a really strong believer in collective work and working with others, working in community, working in partnership, working in relationships.

And sometimes that involved getting their hands dirty, so to speak. By that I mean getting involved in work they didn’t expect to. Sometimes it involved them in formal politics, which some of them might not have thought they would be involved in. Sometimes it involved them in lifelong struggle. Sometimes it split their families up, sometimes it busted up relationships. But those people did the hard work for us.

Yeah totally. And here’s the thing – nothing is granted as an automatic right, and there’s nothing that we have that can’t also be taken away from us or just eroded by greed and stupidity, and people wanting to exercise power in their own interests and not in the interests of the whole…. I think that another element is the genuine, absolute recognition of prior occupation by First Nations people whose understanding and knowledge about the land was very deep. Whose culture and heritage are still very much alive and can be something which we’re lucky enough to be able to have as part of our foundation character.

In the political process that means not turning off to the process but engaging with it. When the time comes for the country to make its next big decision about the direction it wants to go, it’s making sure that young people are out in force to try and make the right decision.

 

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