Scientist Behind Sweden’s No-Lockdown Policy Says It Wasn’t Strict Enough

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The epidemiologist behind Sweden’s controversial decision to forgo a mandatory coronavirus lockdown says “knowing what we know today,” the country would have taken a more restrictive approach

Sweden, which has kept its economy and society open throughout the pandemic, is seen as a model by U.S. and European critics of restrictions, who argue the lockdowns have unnecessarily harmed economies.

 

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Other countries do not have the humility to admit the same

And new cases are surging in Sweden. What he knows now is what the rest of us knew when he made his decision.

herbie648 He must have known what I knew, as a total layman, in January and February. He's a liar or a total incompetent scientist.

Virus: “Duh or as we say in Swedish Duh”.

DemFromCT Ya think?

He bet against the house. Swedes paid the bill.

Lockdowns have almost eradicated the virus in China, South Korea and New Zeeland. Partial lockdowns caused the worse epidemic in the world in the US.

Lockdown didn't help in America. They did the right thing.

Duh!

BradleyWhitford This is why you need a coordinated holistic plan to a region or country.

So why is this person still employed and maybe, I don’t know, not being sued for every Swedish krona earned by the next ten generations of his incompetent bloodline.

Meanwhile in the US: ... ... Hm, looks like we have lost contact with them...

That is not what he said. Certain parts might have been done differenty. Like every county should.

mehdirhasan This is such shoddy, lazy journalism. Tegnell said that they obviously would have done things differently, knowing what we know now. But it isn't only about being restrictive - he argues that closing high schools and universities was wrong.

Please 🙏 help thank you

mehdirhasan Americans pointing fingers at Sweden is a bit funny. US is opening up with the virus spreading and deaths rising faster than ever in many states. And all this with a complete madman in the WH. Good luck with that.

OmTheReality They screwed up in a big way.. So many elderly patients died .. COVID Covid_19 Sweden

Massive failure, massive indictment, massive arseholes.

mehdirhasan Misleading headline by WSJ. Tegnell told reporters,”We're still of the opinion that the strategy is sound, but then there are always improvements to make, especially in hindsight.”

mehdirhasan Fair enough. Considering that in Sweden, Imperial College London was predicting 100k fatalities by June and they only recorded 4k, I'm wondering who was more wrong?

Misleading headline. The guy said he still believes they’ve made the right decision.

BradleyWhitford Duh.

BradleyWhitford Sounds like he’s as stupid as Trump!

BradleyWhitford Duh. Jesus...

Sherribells1771 Should have said, 'If we weren't stubborn Swedes(I am -partial) we might have taken other's advice'....

mehdirhasan toadmeister

Cc drsanjaygupta Craig_A_Spencer

spike_sr71 He's not fully honest. He knew because he criticized all the other countries opting for different measures. But, of course, he's the one that has to be accountable in front of his own conscience, every evening.

Good lord at the world full of brainwashed sheep

ggargiulo3 Cooooosa? Incredibile questa dichiarazione.

maggieNYT What is it about all these stupid leaders?!

maggieNYT Will realDonaldTrump ever admit the mistakes he has made mismanaging COVID policies? Will he apologize to every resident in the U.S. for his selfish decisions & irrational statements? Probably not. How many CovidDeaths by Nov. 3? All the responsibility of POTUS VoteTrumpOut

What a genius 😂😂😂

It's better to be Safe than Sorry. This just proves it.

Kris_Sacrebleu Well too little too late! They have been warned for months

maggieNYT Pay wall of course. It is like a circle jerk of paywall journalists tweeting crap you can’t access. Don’t bother trying, it is never worth it.

Covid dr's will look like the smartest to ever practice or the biggest fools in the next 2 weeks. Biggest viral case study underway in every major city over the past week. If there's no spike in cases then there is zero justification for keeping us quarantined.

maggieNYT USA says to hold my beer, watch while we conduct a race war duing the middle of a pandemic.

dianesbaker1 The same plan the Trump and the GOP have essentially adopted for the United States! It will be up to our governors to fill the leadership vacuum.

But is Sweden on the verge of Bankruptcy ?

maggieNYT Hey billmaher still think Sweden were smart. Your recent takes are insane

maggieNYT Whoops

maggieNYT A number of factors; internal ones where the white entitled guy can lead without question; a smaller population enjoying a bit of a sheltered life; good economy, healthcare, stable government, etc. External threats have not been prepared for. Arrogance or apathy?

maggieNYT You experiment with Residents if Sweden 🇸🇪 even telling them the Elders were Throw Away Group and everyone was cool 😎 with that! There at restaurants drinking wine 🍷 eating 🍽 while people were dying! Social distances is the only fix

maggieNYT The pandemic is not over. Be safe!

maggieNYT Well, duh! 🙄 The rest of Scandinavia did amazingly well, but off course Sweden had to be COVIDIDIOTS

maggieNYT More proof that Biology and Mathematics don’t care about your feelings.

maggieNYT Uhh didn't everybody know then what we knew today?

maggieNYT Which is why the precautionary principle exists.

maggieNYT DanielJHannan

maggieNYT Dear Sweden, Please call the USA Red States and let them know this, as they use you as an example to NOT pay any attention to Social Distancing, shut downs, etc., since SWEDEN didn't. See, they still say, 'oh, but Sweden!'. So, fix that. Right off.

maggieNYT Never buying a Swedish made penis enlarger ever again

Let's be honest here, the only reason they didn't do anything is because they don't trust data from & actions taken by China. They think they are superior

Is he in jail yet?

They made some serious mistakes with senior living centers ate the beginning, like NYC did. This isn’t over, not by a long shot. A year from now he will have been vindicated.

Yeah, hindsight is a bitch isn’t it?

It is very difficult to say what would have been better. However, if Sweden is being ostracized and demeaned by other governments for its different method of handling the pandemic, that is also wrong.

HURR DURR SWEDEN SOSHULIZM IS BETTR DEN USA OPPRESHUN

Damn, this is going to ruin Alex Berenson’s Fox and OANN contract negotiations

Told ya so! The virus has to be stopped. Track, trace, test, isolate, support! 'Herd Immunity' without a vaccine is genocidal public policy.

In truth, the Swedes revel in the Dark Side. Not for nothing did Bergman make so many (mostly tedious, unwatchable) films. More people dying than necessary nourishes their damaged souls. After all, they did remain neutral during World War II, and collaborated with Hitler.

HotlineJosh They decided on the herd immunity route before anyone even knew if recovery from Covid19 produced immunity and for how long. Incredibly irresponsible and ignorant.

Yumpin yiminee Oly, vee screwed oop! Vell....Skoal! Anyvay.

True. Knowing what I know now, I would've bought Bitcoin when it was trading at USD1. F**king hindsight trader

margbrennan You can’t drive this tiger, you just ride it. So much for the Sweden experiment.

Honestly I am not completely sure our current restrictions are much different than what Sweden has going on if you look at what they did. We are opening up and we have COVID widespread in the community. It will be interesting to see if we took this time prepare for resp season

But question is, will Sweden's government do a thing to their expert in the way of fines, condemnation, something. Most likely, he will get a free pass because he is a 'scientist'. Bah...

UNDER ENORMOUS DEEP-STATE PRESSURE?

It's a little late for 'D'oh!', don't ya think?

Catch it now or catch it later.

Disagree . They saved their economy . 4500 death in 10 million population is not a lot

these people are robots and don’t waste a sec to do own research and god forbid if they miss a minute under the bloody sun . I don’t feel safe and will never again feel safe in this country. Sweden Sverige CoronaVirusSverige Covid19 Coronasverige AndersTegnell

Who cares anymore, have you not seen the massive crowds in every major city in America and parts of the world? Why did we lockdown anything at all to the have these massive protests piss all this effort away? 40million jobs lost for what?

from same hypocrite who has claimed all along that there are no imposed restrictions in Sweden because the Swedish public are responsible. He has blood on his hands and Swedish gov is treating him as a god . I can’t believe I actually thought I lived in a intelligent society-

yashar Oh well....maybe next time 🙄

Haven’t u heard ? He took it back yesterday!!!! Tegnell has also disagreed with Who’s latest recommendation about wearing masks . His excuse this time is that he doesn’t have confidence that infected people will keep isolated if there is a illusion of protection - coming from...

yashar Bullshit...they absolutely knew the risks and ignored them. Their arrogance bit them in the ass.

yashar Bull. He’s just dumb.

yashar Nice way to hedge!🙄

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But he didn't say they would go for lockdowns. He mentioned more testing and more attention to elderly care. We should appreciate his honesty. All the lockdowns' fans and supporters will never admit their silly choices.

Hidden in this shitstorm. For all those who want to emulate Sweden.

yashar Ugh, it's just so awful.

One of the very few scientists or politicians who have said they’d do something different

Already rebutted:

Remember...Do no harm.

The smartalec of Europe who was boasting on tv when ever other country was taking this more seriously..

Hm. I be darned.

Tough lessons.

Attention RandPaul

murderers. they didnt even attempt to save anybody's life, they just let them die.

And most of the deaths are nursing home just like every other country. No evidence at all anywhere that lockdowns and masks worked.

Definitely a Wert der Derk moment, ehhh Swedis chef

Sweden has only 4300 deaths, but the virus came later, with the lock down perhaps they would have had fewer

Whoops...

Close to 5000 people dead, in a barely 10m country... do the math...🤢

yashar 🤦‍♂️🤦🏻‍♀️🦠🏥⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️

Guess the hillbillies don't like Sweden no more.

You do what you know,then adjust to your impact as Covid reacts

yashar Oh

Its just a big flu👐🏻

Hes no scientist.

BengoaChristia Pero en Suecia lo puede/ quiere decir con sinceridad

Story only talks about death rate not new cases. Story doesn’t mention that 33% of Sweden’s population is over 55. Once of the oldest populations in the world. US is 24% by comparison

kasysalim

Every other country abandoned the elderly also. For a country that had no lockdown,, figures were not much greater than a lot of other countries per population

kalex254

As of Wednesday, 4,542 people in Sweden had died from Covid-19... just leaving that there.

Yikes. 4562 deaths. The highest per capita in the world. Except of course if you look at the demographics. 4041 were over 70 years of age. Which leaves only 521 deaths. Sounds like those in the highest risk category (old age) didn't follow guidelines to stay home.

normaburke NiamhHoran

normaburke Imagine. Who cares about old people in Sweden

krisaypat

This is BS he did not say this. Care homes should have been protected like they should've in every country.

mystic_geminii5 One more intelligent assh.....Bites the dust

Because the situation was so different in neighbouring jurisdictions, the approach should have changed two months ago. Sweden Norway Denmark Finland

Only problem with the story is that it is fakenews - what he actually said is buried in the detail of a similarly misleading FT article. MSM is almost universally pro lockdown and therefore anti-Sweden and anti-Tegnell.

Well, it's because of stubbornness. There is nothing wrong to lockdown certain region where infection rate is high than lockdown the whole country.

StefSimanowitz Knowing what they know today.....?!!! Did they not see what was happening in Asia before it hit Europe/ Scandinavia?!!! Why did they think that they could continue to allow crowds to gather and have little restriction in place? It’s not science it’s common sense...

No the never, they said more restrictive and somewhere in the middle

They kept their hospitals from being overwhelmed by simply leaving most elderly in care homes who contracted coronavirus in those homes and not moving them to a hospital, some never seeing a doctor.

Paywall 😢

Yeah, Sweden figured out its a hoax.

jeremyphoward It is too early to say sweden was wrong. We should compare the stats at least 6 months after lockdown is over, or maybe a year.

ElstonGunn87 'Ah well'. Shrugs shoulders.

jeremyphoward So he should be jailed.

jeremyphoward Fricking unbelievable.

Errrrrrrrrr......

He was really arrogant when speaking about why the left everything open. Said many times that we’ll see in future that they were right. Yeah ok! Unlike other Nordic countries who controlled it. That’s the risk of playing with unknown force.

Has everyone who is commenting changed their pissy sheets? Or did you all wet yourself behind the sofa?

They knew fine well. In fact, they thought they knew it all. But then again, so did a lot of smart arses.

4500 dead Not exactly made the wrong decision have they.

It’s ok because they said sorry 😂

POTUS in case you hadn't heard.

Economy is knackered either way . How are you meant to keep trading when all your neighbours have shut up shop ? After saying that their death rate is still lower than Italy France UK and Belgium. 11.13%

Hilarious you are. Are you watching the news? Or you don't have TVs and access to the Internet? I can tell you with total confidence - that nobody follows self-isolation or staying at home, or quarantined themselves. Switch on the TV. You will be surprised. Unbelievable you are

So... can he be held criminally responsible for covid-19 deaths in court then?

Greece 👇👇👇👇🇬🇷💩

SHABAZGIL maybe stop using Sweden's example as role model now in your tweets? Hire an epidemiologist in coronavirus team and educate the governing bodies maybe?

dif4me

Sweden are doing just fine piers

40.882 registered cases, 4.563 dead, population of 10million. This is fucked. Our government is pathetic, not communicating clear, no transparency. Trying to keep up the mask, 'doing things their own individual way'. The nation is yearning for help, government does shit.

Which COVID19-related decision by any government hasn’t been controversial? Maybe “different” is the word you’re looking for.

FatEmperor Thoughts Ivor?

What a surprise, this was not reported by the UK left-wing media: BBCNews; BBCPolitics; SkyNews or Channel4News.

I wonder how much of it was a genuine mistake.

Ireland cancelled our national day, st Patrick's day, while your government let everything go ahead 'until Cheltenham' was over I stupidly think, MONEY' ?

Wrong again peers

It’s not ok to experiment on human life willynilly. Herd immunity is something to achieve with vaccines. Sweden will always be culling their herd if they continue on the same path. It’s taken them about 3 weeks to question their process. Wonder what the citizens of Sweden think.

Those who agree with Sweden sacrificing the predominantly elderly for the economy, if you’re old, nominate yourself. If you’re not, nominate the parents and grandparents you would like to sacrifice. And then proceed to tell them you would like them to give up their life.

It really doesn’t matter if you kept your economy open. If your neighbors and partners closed, essentially so did you.

arobleschiari Si mi abuela no se hubiera muerto, viva estuviera.

So the USA lockdown was ok until people wanted to protest? Now they should not be locked down so they can loot and protest. Write something about that!

They just abandoned old people. Very sad.

Anytime Sweden appears in list of happy countries, remember they sacrificed old people in a social experiment.

The media is trying desperately hard to discredit Sweden for not turning into a police state and shutting down its economy. About 5000 deaths in a country of about 10 million, with around half of those being carehome related. Really isn’t that bad.

“nearly 50% of Covid-19-related deaths have occurred in homes for the elderly.” They would be more vigilant about care facilities, not practice hysteria as we did.

Sweden does have a high COVID-19 death rate. About a third that of NY, and 20% that of NYC. Whoever is in charge of such places should be summarily dismissed.

Looking through the rear-view mirror, things are always clearer

And the US should have taken a less restrictive approach ( in most places)

They took the right approach. You cant stay locked down forever and they are closer to heard immunity than other countries.

basically concerning the elderly in care centres, not shooting the economy in the head

Meanwhile, you have the UK’s lead epidemiologist, who built their model predicting doom and gloom, saying that the UK should have done what Sweden did.

gee, ya think😒

Unfortunately no mulligans.

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