If war is coming, the West must decide how far it will go to defend Ukraine against Russia

If war is coming, the West must decide how far it will go to defend Ukraine against Russia

World Economy, United States

1/24/2022 12:12:00 PM

If war is coming, the West must decide how far it will go to defend Ukraine against Russia

Analysts are questioning whether the West can actually deter Russia , and just how far Western allies are willing to defend the country.

have also refused those demands"We've tried appeasement with Putin. We tried it in 2008 when he went into Georgia, and suffered almost no consequences. We tried it with Crimea, where he also suffered almost no consequences," he said.Could more sanctions deter Russia?

.among other misdemeanorsWhile the U.S. and U.K. favor more punitive measures against Russia's economy should it invade Ukraine, there is hesitation in some European countries because of economic or diplomatic reasons. For example, Germany — Europe's de facto leader — is reluctant to see sanctions imposed on its giant gas pipeline project with Russia, Nord Stream 2, which will supply much of Europe with natural gas.

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We can send h out. Need to go the full mile Where was all this noise when America was planning to invade Iraq? As a matter of fact, the so called ' Free Media' were the biggest cheer leaders. If you liked me with Afghanistan, you’ll love me with Ukraine -joe biden Not at all , wwiii could start lolzzzz Ukraine will learn the hard way that you can't trust the West to take bullet's on your behalf. They'll learn soon enough that the name of the game is YOYO You're On Your Own.

US needs to stay out of it. At least until this current administration is out. Many in the west see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. They worship money and power and death. Their ideal solution to all the nation's problems would be another thousand year war.HST

Biden wants Ukraine War, this way him and his crooked generals can hide all the dirty deals they did in that Country. Russia only needs few months and job will be done. Stay T F out of it. This is a perfect opportunity to wipe Russia off earth

Russia, U.S. fail to resolve differences in talks to avoid Moscow invasion of Ukraine Russia and the United States held 'frank' talks Friday but failed to resolve deep differences over Ukraine , as the U.S. races to avert an invasion. 😳🤨 Lol. We failed to stop Russia from invading Ukraine that they've been in since 2013?

We all have nukes now. How do you imagine this ends? Putin is just pissed. He had invested alot in trumps help of his take over of America. He thought trump had it in the shopping bag for him. But not today Putin not any day in America. Beat your chest all you want to. Americans will call your bluff and raise your stakes. Go!

Weird how no wars under Trump But under Biden, we are magically protecting and about to go to war for the same country he and his son did BIG BUSINESS with. Nuclear war on the way people and a senile old man has the codes.. but hey, at least no more mean tweets. Ukraine Russia is going win it all Russia will take Ukraine then go for the rest of Europe

Why do we need to go to war over the Ukraine? Bullshit UkraineRussia Do you sell bullets? Do you press heavy gauge steel into tank parts? Do you ? Leave this alone ! It is not our play! Germany tried to make a play in Russia and she lost 7 million soldier's. We Stay Away. If Biden was a president and had say balls it wouldn't have gone this far. It didn't with Trump.

Any good printed book on how to survive post nuclear war?

Britain Says Russia Seeking to Replace Ukraine GovernmentThe British government on Saturday accused Russia of seeking to replace Ukraine ’s government with a pro-Moscow administration, and said former Ukrainian lawmaker Yevheniy Murayev is being considered as a potential candidate. I stand with Russia 1 Russians Enter Berlin: Final Months of World War II (1945) | British Pathé via YouTube How the U.S. Stole Mexico via YouTube

Why don’t we let the citizens of Ukraine make the decision especially if over 90% of the people want to be a part of Russia? US: Umm not going to lay down a life for Ukraine The US should mind their damn business for once. Let’s worry about the homeless problem first! Give them everything they need but no troops - we do not want a direct war with Russia - Ukraine can fight that battle.

Today Ukraine tomorrow Alaska......stop him now. Does anybody else feel the GQP is trying to get us into war over Ukraine, so then they can blame Biden 100k people are not enough to invade one of the largest countries in Europe, most likely Putin wants to carve out another piece of Ukraine for Mom Russia as if Russia doesn't already hold enough land.

Why should young folks live shorter than old folks, whenever Politicians call for a WAR? Too much freeriding the way I see it! Refer to the image of Aeneas and Anchises--Greek mythology. Oh look, the countries that have done the worst at dealing with Covid want to inflict even worse suffering now. Not our problem. Not our war.

Britain says Russia seeking to replace Ukraine governmentThe British government on Saturday accused Russia of seeking to replace Ukraine 's government with a pro-Moscow administration, and said former Ukrainian lawmaker Yevheniy Murayev is being considered as a potential candidate.

Why would we spend our blood and treasure to defend them? This is Europe's issue... I expect the rather stupid politicians to take their time to come anywhere near a decision - maybe even just 'review' the situation. Whatever the out come only a handful of politicians are Putin our lives in danger - so what has changed since just before WW1 ? Zilch !! Rien !!

Russia has already won the first battle, it has successfully split the US, the door is open to Ukraine. The only thing Putin does not know, is whether US anger can be refocused outward. Nothing like war to consolidate US sentiment and economics… In the RU-UKR conflict, the US has become the warmonger.

If EU fights Russia , Europeans will freeze to death 😩 Russia just has to turn the knob off . EU & NATO have no business meddling in erstwhile Soviet republics & expanding NATO to Moscow doorstep. The Bear will fight back , The Eagle will fly back to pax Americana . The West will run with its tail in between its legs. EU does not have enough mil hardware & soldiers to fight while US can not pay its govt employees without raising the debt ceiling 🤪How can US afford war ? Ukraine will fall to Russia & Taiwan to China . Bitter truth ! ☹️

Our US /Western elites as well as the Russian oligarchs rejoice, salivating at the prospect of more profits to them, accelerating the current trends. And Xi / China is happy seeing our decline accelerating too - ready for their turn at world dominance. If this is how they hold their guns, not far. War by proxy . We are masters at that now , we give the guns , other die

The great unifier, Joey says a minor invasion is OK?

U.K. accuses Russia of scheming to install a pro-Kremlin government in UkraineThe Russia n Foreign Ministry denied the allegations, saying the British announcement was evidence that NATO countries are escalating tensions around Ukraine . tedlieu Duh! Awesome idea ! Britain says this , this is height of oxymoron.

Fine. Let the author of this 💩 article lead the way Nothing will happen 😇 Weren’t we supposed to help unequivocally Distraction watch out here comes China 🇨🇳 Why would the US ship weapons to Kiev ? They'll just get scooped up the Russians . How about we mind our business instead If Russia starts a war, take out the bridge.

yesterday i didn't even know ukraine was a real country, and what? now we're supposed to defend them or something? 西方从东欧撤离,不就什么事都没有了?

Russia denies British claim of trying to replace Ukraine leader Russia has denied a British claim that it's seeking to replace Ukraine ’s government with a pro-Moscow administration. Duh! of coarse Russia denied it, that’s like asking Charles Manson if he’s guilty of murder or Trump if he had won the elections . They’re trying to do it here. Why should we believe they aren’t trying to do it in Ukraine?

Why did Countries wait till the last minute? Citizens forced to find their own way out, is there no forethought with this administration? We have to drop the big heaters on Moscow. Get rid of Putin- the Russian people are fine. We have a pandemic to deal with, a climate crisis , yet some leaders focuses on petty land grabs for their narcissism needs. 🤦‍♂️we are a really fucked up species.

Just freeze them out of the SWIFT system. Our troops should be here making sure unwanted pregnancies are forced to completion. What a fuking pathetic shit show we’ve become. With GOP cheering all the defense contractor money coming their way. Send in the democRats that voted for Biden first. The American people will not support American elites waging a war over Siberian resources. Mainstream media and politicians can send their kids to fight. We are through with you.

Ukraine just paid. 😂👍🏻 Send all your feminists there to fight for gender equality see if they can handle. 😂🤣😂

Russia denies claim it’s trying to install pro-Moscow leader in Ukraine Russia ’s Foreign Ministry on Sunday rejected a British claim that the Kremlin is seeking to replace Ukraine ’s government with a pro-Moscow administration. Well that settles it then

“I watched friends get their guts blown out. You ever seen bodies of women and kids splattered across the ground knowing you and your buddies are the ones who did it?” Before any senator talks of war, send their children FIRST. Shut bravado on other’s dime Hoogste tijd ! Kleur bekennen Daar komt het nu op aan

as always elsewhere in history..? The west is broke. Not money wise but supply chain capacity wise. Ukraine it's time to break anarchist and dissolve your state by your own terms before Russia takes it over. Putin spends most of his time probing the West's weaknesses. He's done a decent job here. USA backing the Nazi agenda once again .. from racist Zionist ideology to fascist tyrants .. the USA is complicit And financing the worlds racist ideologies..

The cost will be high enough to destroy all economies. Personally I’m ready to see Nasdaq at 11000. It’s a jolly number . If I were an institution, I would be like we are getting bailed out cause we are worth it If war is coming, the West must decide how far it will go to defend Taiwan against China.

All the fuckin way My Give-a-shit meter might be a bit higher if Germany and France spent more than 1.5% of their GDP on their military. If they don’t care, why should we We have more than plenty of our own problems Who is selling the weapons is the question. The West will have to decide without the the US, because the Confederate Supreme Court appointed by Trump, McConnell, & Putin has made the “United” States an unconstitutional Federal Mandate. We’ve fought our last war as 1 nation.

Us is deat... The US response, delivered as a GIF: (Can also be reused for Israel, Taiwan, etc.) All that can should get out of Russia ASAP. Russia will become a very unpleasant place to be with no power, no infrastructure control etc. This could be the golden opportunity to enhance humanity , end all prevailing violences and restore peace.

The west won’t do anything. They don’t have the stomach for it. Didnt we prove that in Afghanistan? Thats why this is happening 🤔

Remember history. Stalin starved 3.4 million Ukrainians in the winter of 1931-1932 because thier government refused Communist policys of the collective. Deep seated hatred between these two country's. Bring back the orange guy 🧡 This network is fear mongering to control the market movements. This is pure speculation and a sensationalized headline designed to trigger sell algos . Amazing how the markets were green and the minute this network goes on air and starts pumping out negativity they reverse

Ukraine didn't need defending til a western backed coup put fierce Anti-Russians in power. If Biden starts a war, he must be impeached and removed from office. Thank you for the great review that we had the other day. You made it easier for me to understand crypto trade. earn 🙌 R75k$ with the help of MichaelWeldon_

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They lost Afghanistan now they need a replacement country to abuse under the guise of 'protecting' that nation from the evil Russia - it's all BS. Why haven't we dispense with Vlad already? Is he the all powerful and knowing OZ? Superman? Thanos maybe? Think about it.. [how far it will go] Any similarities with 'The Edge of War'? Who is pushing whom? Are they playing chess again? Who are the players? Today's buttons are not the same as WWI or II's It is Jan.

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Street Signs Asia There have been various top-level meetings between Russian, U.S. and NATO officials in recent weeks to try to de-escalate tensions, but these have not met with much success. Russia wants legal assurances that Ukraine will not be allowed to join the U.S. and European military alliance NATO, which it has not received. The Kremlin also wants to see NATO roll back military infrastructure and personnel from parts of Eastern Europe, and in the former Soviet countries of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. NATO and U.S. officials have also refused those demands . John Herbst, senior director of the Atlantic Council's Eurasia Center and former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, told CNBC on Monday that he thinks the West must "push back hard against Kremlin aggression" — and to do it sooner rather than later. "We've tried appeasement with Putin. We tried it in 2008 when he went into Georgia, and suffered almost no consequences. We tried it with Crimea, where he also suffered almost no consequences," he said. Herbst said that Biden's proposed framework if Russia escalates in Ukraine — additional sanctions, sending weapons to Ukraine and the deployment of more NATA forces to Russia's border — was reasonable, but "not sufficiently active." "What we should be doing is we should be moving those forces within NATO now. We should be sending those weapons now," he said. "It seems that the Biden administration is starting to move in those directions. But it needs to be stronger and faster, and we need to do it in conjunction with our allies." Could more sanctions deter Russia? The U.S., U.K. and EU have all warned Russia that it will face further crippling sanctions if it invades its neighbor — but Russia is already used to operating under sanctions . Penalties were imposed on some of its key sectors (like energy and finance) and officials in the wake of its 2014 annexation of Crimea from Ukraine, and its role in pro-Russian uprisings in eastern Ukraine, where lower-level fighting has continued between Ukrainian troops and pro-Russian separatists ever since. More international sanctions were imposed on Russia for its 2016 U.S. election interference, role in cyberattacks against the U.S. and a 2018 nerve agent attack in the U.K., among other misdemeanors , although Russia has regularly denied involvement in such events despite evidence to the contrary. When it comes to the current situation with Ukraine, Western allies have again threatened a tough response to Russia — but there has been public disunity over what punitive measures could be taken. While the U.S. and U.K. favor more punitive measures against Russia's economy should it invade Ukraine, there is hesitation in some European countries because of economic or diplomatic reasons. For example, Germany — Europe's de facto leader — is reluctant to see sanctions imposed on its giant gas pipeline project with Russia, Nord Stream 2, which will supply much of Europe with natural gas. RBC Capital Market's Croft noted Sunday that "there is the question of whether any of the sanctions being discussed in Western capitals will deter President Putin if he is intent on bringing Ukraine firmly back into Russia's orbit. "Leading sanctions experts contend that the West could potentially change Putin's calculus if these nations were prepared to impose serious sanctions on the key Russian financial institutions (VTB, Sberbank, Gazprombank) and on energy exports (along the lines of what was done with Iran). However, barring Nord Stream 2, Washington has already indicated that it will seek to exempt energy from the punitive measures currently being prepared," she wrote. Likewise, she added, "given that a number of Western asset managers hold the Russian financials, a key question is whether the U.S. and its European allies would really blacklist these institutions." Critical week ahead Global markets are likely to remain nervous this week that there could be an imminent military conflict between Ukraine and Russia while Western officials are set to hold further crisis meetings on the situation. On Monday, the EU's Foreign Affairs Council will meet in the afternoon and NATO Secretary General, Jens Stoltenberg, will meeting with foreign affairs ministers from Finland and Sweden. Then on Tuesday, political advisers from Russia, Ukraine, France and Germany will hold "Normandy format" talks on eastern Ukraine in Paris on Tuesday , according to Reuters. With tensions ratcheting higher, U.S. President Joe Biden is reportedly considering deploying several thousand U.S. troops, as well as warships and aircraft, to NATO allies in the Baltics and Eastern Europe, which would represent a significant expansion of American military involvement, according to the New York Times . As Ukraine is not a member of NATO, the military alliance is not obliged to defend it, posing the question over just how far the U.S. and EU are willing to go to defend Ukraine, however. VIDEO