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Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis

Giuliani tells Pennsylvania legislators they can override popular vote to appoint pro-Trump electors

Giuliani tells Pennsylvania legislators they can override popular vote to appoint pro-Trump electors

11/26/2020 6:15:00 PM

Giuliani tells Pennsylvania legislators they can override popular vote to appoint pro-Trump electors

President Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and his campaign counsel Jenna Ellis on Wednesday floated the idea to Pennsylvania Republicans that the state legislature could decide on its own to give the state's 20 Electoral College votes to Trump, despite the state’s certifying that Joe Biden won the Nov. 3 election in the state.

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Rudy should be careful as to where he keep his nose. Loyalty is one thing butt being stupid is a whole different arena. Yes, they can but sure they won't. You lost and you're fired get over it! Sedition. Why has he not been charged or at least disbarred? Can he even practice law in PA? Village idiot Somebody in his family please go get this old man!

When are they going disbar this piece trump shlt? Giuliani needs to be careful what precedence he wants to set because KARMA IS A BITCH Liberals were the first ones to suggest this crying now. someone tell this guy to retire Giuliani is a guy who thinks of his own personal gain and let the country go to hell! Shame on him!!

They control the 'manner' of selection (as they set forth in the states' election laws). They don't do the selecting themselves. I suppose a Legislature might try to pass a law giving themselves the authority to name their state's electors, but none of them have done that. In other words “ Rig the Election “

Is there a provision in the Constitution that allows the things he is saying? This guy needs to go away That SenMastriano even allowed such a disgraceful meeting to happen, makes him suspect. That he allowed for a corpse like Giuliani to pitch a reversal on electors that will undo the will of the people shows lack of integrity.

Nothing says democracy like overriding the vote to install the candidate this POS wants If the Republican legislators can override the Pennsylvania election results (they can't), then the (Democratic) governor can override THEM. After all, it's HIS job to select the 20 people who will actually cast the ballots in the Electoral College.

He is correct. They can, but likely will not. felony I don't know what Giuliani can be charged with, for his 'knowingly and willingly' continuing trying to change the will of the American people, pushing false arguments to entice trumpism to become a dictatorship. Pushing for intentional law breaking, to overcome election results.

LOL... all this voter “Fraud” and but not a shred of ACTUAL evidence. What a joke! People are dying out there, and Trump is still just trying to stoke his ego. what a delusional assshole Captain Terry's Spray on Hair spokesman said what ? What the F**K is wrong with this Man ? They have no legal leg to stand on...

Take Rudy’s law license away from him. SEIG HEIL Dethroned Covid Donny MAGA-NAZI Quack Asinine NONsense followers..... RUDICULOUS should be arrested as National Security Threat Fuck Guilliani can go away now. You're still not going to have sex with any of the Trump women. Not ever. I know it's what you hoped for but they're not going to want to be with a melting buffoon. The only chance you have is by going to bed with Donald.

'Giuliani tells Pennsylvania ' Stop giving this man oxygen. Why are we still talking g about this as americans die, amd get evicted at record numbers. I do hope that Ghouliani gets disbarred after all this circus show