Democrats are haggling over whether to drop two of the most popular elements of their social spending bill as negotiations reach the zero hour, according to a half-dozen sources close to the discussions.
The threat to these two centerpieces of the bill comes as Democrats push for an agreement on a framework for the broader social spending measure as soon as possible. Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer have said they want a deal by the end of this week, though Manchin and the White House still don’t see eye to eye on a topline number for the bill; Manchin has consistently said he supports $1.5 trillion.
In recent weeks, Biden had pitched lawmakers on converting the dental benefit — by far the most expensive and logistically challenging of the three Medicare expansions eyed for the bill — into an $800 annual voucher for care. Progressives, who have fought for decades against conservative efforts to convert Medicare into a voucher program, were
Sanders and other progressives already saw the benefits expansion as a significant concession, given they had originally pushed to lower the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 60. Now, they say dropping the expansion entirely risks losing their votes for the broader bill.
SharonCarbine It's a fucking shame that the richest person in West Virginia, the poorest state after Mississippi is blocking programs beneficial to his constituents.
Quick before I consider voting third party for the rest of my life, somebody tell me how this is trump's fault
Because of two democrats or so called.
Manchin and Sinema are two privileged, rich, white people blocking legislation that will support 330 million Americans. They think their money and power deserves more voice than all the other Democratic Lawmakers and The American Public that voted for them.
What is Mr Manchin FOR? He seems to be AGAINST anything that helps the American people.
Then what? What’s going to be left to benefit the American people?! Deals made to continue to fill the pockets of those who care about no one else. Sickening!
US owes $29T Fed Tax Rev UP 18% y/y to $4T COVID Bills last y cost $6T New Dem spending this year-$1.9T of waste Now they want $5.5T - 85K IRS A money for 1.7m illegals this year Any money for making drugs here & not in China? Probably Not - Don't know Bill is published.
Atta boy Manchin. Strip medicare away. That is why more and more of us are moving to 'self employed' so we can avoid paying for medicare. I am 41 and will never see it anyways. So fuck it.
Nice House Boat
Because Manchin and that Az senator accept Republican donor money, pharmaceutical money, Republican lobbyists organizations. These groups oppose Medicare/Medicaid expansion, oppose lower prescription prices, oppose everything that benefits the American people.
Seniors, who voted for this turn coar should storm this bums office. He isn't a team player, so remove him from the team.
The procedural maneuver, long used by Senate minorities to block civil rights legislation, is now poised to stop democracy reforms supported by broad majorities. If the Senate is to be responsive to the popular will, the filibuster must go.
BeckyakaGaggy What’s left? Free popcorn at movies?……
So, they don't have the guts or actual will to do what's right for the country? That's going to hurt them.
Jinxy_Minxy Don't bow to them Joe ,get what americans need.
A minority can use the Electoral College to elect a president who loses the popular vote. A minority can gerrymander control of the House. A minority can stop the majority from governing the Senate. Does that sound like a successful democracy to you?🚫🎩💰🪙🏛🇺🇲
Manchin is owned by corporate money.
Sen_JoeManchin the majority of Medicare Advantage plans in the US include dental, vision and some hearing. Why don't you think West Virginians don't need this benefit? Your rankings say otherwise think of your constituents for a change.
Paid family leave is questionable but the need for dental and vision/hearing benefits for expansion in Medicare needs to happen. Medicare Advantage plans have that in many of the plans, why not Medicare?
Why are seniors always at the bottom of the food chain? Life's lessons have been hard enough by the time we reach an age of need.
Can we afford it where’s the money coming from have we worked with all the stakeholders yet?
Manchin... Are you willing to KICK THE BUTTS of the 'SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH' Industrial Complex?
Glad to Hear Manchin won't Ditch us Democrats! We need Financial Discipline. While Kicking the Military Establishments ASS.
Yep. Axing either of the two provisions would infuriate progressives and alienate valuable voting blocs. Yet the party might just have to.
Always another time
Well we need more than 50 supposedly Democratic senators. If Dems can’t control the house and significantly control the Senate nothing will ever get done.
What's left? Truth is I'm not liking American *democratic* process much. Consider my enthusiasm curbed.
President Manchin don't want it
And this is how the party of Trump introduces 'freedom' over the good of the people
Is there anything left? 🤣
The democrats should just throw their hands up. Anything Manchin and Sinema vote for will not help the citizens it was meant for. If you don’t support boldly up front, there will be no boldness on the back end. When the GOP is in charge, the wealthy know they will prosper.
Democrats continue to make promises they cannot keep.
BOO!!
Sad.
Many seniors are in desperate need. They choose between food, medications, being able to see or hear, and many live on the edge daily. Once again, abandoning seniors. The ones I know are pissed 😡!
So by the time Sen_JoeManchin and SenatorSinema finish with this it'll just be a military spending bill which will get 90 votes and we'll get no actual help. TheDemocrats aren't keeping any promises. Talk a big game when they need votes then deliver nothing.
Our county has health care and family care equivalent to third world
Guess they don’t want women back in the workforce.
Awwwwww, come on, don't do that!!!!!!!
This is not good!
DC Democrats ran for years on health care and then do nothing about it when they get the trifecta?
Manchin and Sinema are looking to screw over Democrats by gutting the entire reconciliation package. Huge concessions have already been made of incredibly popular programs and they still want to keep cutting. Enough of the bullshit!
PLEASE DON'T! Asking for ALL the folks on Medicare who can't qualify for Mediaid.
PaidLeaveforAll PaidLeaveUS paidleaveWV Do something! Manchin is about to single-handedly kill paid leave!
The Republican in a Democrat costume enjoys his new found wealth and power.
😩
Very disappointed
Free stuff, lots of it..for everyone!
rats
Why not pass infrastructure first since it has bipartisan agreement already then do another bill focus solely on healthcare? HouseGOP HouseDemocrats SenateGOP
democracyloses That pisses me off. The elderly pass on getting dental, vision and hearing care which are basic and needed to have quality of life. Why are they constantly treated like second class citizens?
As well it should total over reach by Democratic Party
Manchin - why are you not working with out party? Don’t you think they need you? Suck it it up and vote with your party!
No free lunch. It has to be paid for in a highly inflationary environment
Because only tax cuts and loopholes for lazy corrupt rich people is all that matters?
democracyloses JoeManchinWV Don't let this happen.
To see a republican average person happy for this makes me sick …
No, tell manchin to go to well!
WTF
We should cut the whole bill and raise taxes, we can’t afford the current social programs…
If Dems lose in 2022 a lot of the blame can be put on Manchin and Sinema
West Virginians eligible for Medicare figure that since they have few teeth, what's the point.. - Expanding Medicare w/dental, vision & hearing benefits tens of millions of seniors, are all now in danger of getting cut from Biden's social spending package
Take the Trump billionaire's tax break back. That adds $1.7 trillion for the Build Back Better plan. Trump gave roughly 600 people the same amount that Biden wants to give over 300 million people. Dems chance losing millions of votes in elections if these get cut.
Can’t satisfy all parties!
This important Medicare provision should have been part of an independent piece of legislation without being mixed up with all kinds of totally extraneous matters.
I'm not apologist for expanding Medicare and other big spending programs. Not by a long shot. But it's comical to read the real reasons this is not going to pass.
Sen_JoeManchin is like the Grinch that Stole Christmas
I'm still smiling! It's been so beneficiary trying someone new. The step take couldn't be much better. So glad I came across Geoffreypreud
So it is OK to give Healthcare to seniors but not allow them any dignity to have hearing aids, glasses, or dental care 🤔
So, what’s left after you gut Medicare expansion and paid family leave? I think I read free community college has already been axed or pared down. Manchin won’t approve climate stuff. Sinema is a “no” on negotiating Medicare drug prices. This bill has fizzled.
Sure - deaf, dumb & blind aging Baby Boomers beat TaxingTheWealthyAccotdingToIncome to provide co-pay free Medicare4All with UniversalBasicIncome & much more, everyday of the week. The majority of TheDemocrats giveth & the majority of the GOP taketh away.
West Virginia is one of the poorest States in the Union. How in God’s name does it elect a Joe Manchin?
Do not ditch the Medicare expansion! Last I checked, my teeth were in my body, my ears were on my body and I need my eyes to see…why the hell are these parts of our body excluded from health care?!?! FuckManchinAndGOP
By the time this turd is done we'll get a 1% discount on postage stamps and 50% discount on taxes for those making $500k a year or more
I have never ever seen someone work so hard to destroy the Democrats as much as Manchin. Remember we will fall within. Life as we know it will be gone forever. Greed & Power will destroy US.
Keep on cutting the agenda and… Here is my message to democrats.. Keep on cutting your agenda and the reason you got elected… don’t bother running again. I am for one, will never, never vote for you again..
When will Dems ever learn to walk away rather than settle for less? If Dems dumped this entire bill and pulled the anticipated billions of dollars and thousands of jobs from red states, perhaps Repugnantcans would be more interested in cooperating and negotiating in good faith?
Literally two of the most popular parts of the bill
Wtf? Because cover those things would be so .. unpopular?!!!
So disappointed with this administration.
POTUS SpeakerPelosi SenSchumer Sen_JoeManchin Do NOT pull Medicare dental, vision, and hearing benefits from bill!!!!
It’s just money, right?
Everything favors the wealthy.
TimEdwardsZero4 It's worthless to the average American if these parts are scrubed. So pull the the bill and start over. As the Gambler said. ' You gotta know when to hold them and know when to fold them.'
🤔😠 You need to do more cutting from the rich, like pay your taxes. The Poor and the average man need as much help as possible, this is a fact !!!
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