Coronavirus death toll in US likely worse than numbers say

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The real number of deaths is higher—but no one knows by how much.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is well aware that the figures – which keep going up – do not tell the full story.

Deployed by public health agencies, that data could help cities across the country and throughout the world properly prepare for the surge in hospitalizations and deaths that could occur as the disease strikes elsewhere. As it turns out, doctors and scientists believe, it was an underestimation of potential COVID-19 fatalities in New York City that has wrought serious consequences.

"We did the best we could with what we had,” said one emergency department doctor in Philadelphia, speaking on condition of anonymity. “We didn’t have much and that’s a fact. I’m confident we saw patients who died of COVID before we could test. We suspected it, but couldn't confirm it so the death certificates never contained COVID as the cause.”

A man waits to enter a COVID-19 testing center at the Elmhurst Hospital Center in Queens, New York, USA, on March 30, 2020.With limited resources reserved for the severely ill, many are dying before getting tested or while test results are pending, city officials said, and there simply is no opportunity to conduct post-mortem testing – something routinely done in normal times.

“We are helping because we have experience in death and know about management and storage of dead bodies, but these cases are not the usual cases that come to us,” said Sally Aiken, chief medical examiner in Spokane, Wash., and president of the National Association of Medical Examiners. "There is no swabbing of deceased individuals anymore and unless the medical examiner has knowledge of a confirmed coronavirus test, then they aren’t being marked down as having coronavirus,” said Levine, whose committee has oversight for the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.

To try and get a more accurate picture of the crisis, the CDC last week issued updated guidance for certifying deaths due to COVID-19 – protocols similar to those in place for pneumonia and influenza. According to the new directions, if a patient has died from pneumonia, for example, but was also tested positive for COVID-19, someone is required to specify whether COVID-19 played a role in the death and whether it was actually the underlying, primary cause of death.

 

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Isnt this article from 4/7 Doom and gloom ABC news

Good old ABC spinning more tales of woe. Can you guys find any positive news?

How is it worse when they count a death even though it wasn't directly Covid related?

The real number of survivors is much higher, but the FakeNewsMedia won’t report that because it doesn’t fit the fear mongering agenda.

Horse Shit....

'Likely'? Get back to us when u have FACTS

Says WHO ? YOU . FAKE NEWS . RUMORS? 🤔🤔🤔

Same with China

Fake News. Where is the evidence of that. Where are the numbers that prove that there are more deaths. Idiotic. What happens is that people still die for all the regular causes.

To ABC, You know damn well there cannot be an exacting number at this time. Causes of death in the beginning may or may not be attributed to Coronavirus deaths.

No, it isn’t. Please stop spreading lies and fear. Covid deaths include anyone who dies after testing positive. That’s intentionally misleading. You’re supposed to be a news organization. Report the truth.

Article is pure speculation

No one knows anything. The numbers are bs. Wear a mask, wash your hands, lock yourselves away, we don’t know. Stay tuned for more lies and propaganda 📺

If only someone could investigate it

You mean all of America suffering for liberal jet setting city dwellers who brought this virus here

About 20% worse than numbers announced.

Real number is lower since they're pumping up the numbers to feed the hysteria.

How will we ever know ANY truthw when abc airs free TrumpCampaignRallies with lies, lies, lies. you're KIlling us.

This is what I am talking about. I live in an area where they say the numbers are low, but it's TOO low. Come to find out they aren't testing for it unless the infected person has all of the symptoms.

I stopped watching the nightly news on ABC because it’s all hype about the pandemic. Switched over to CBS which is more sober in news coverage.

Nonsense. Did the coronavirus cure heart disease or diabetes or cancer? The usual sources of mortality are declining. Why? Because all deaths are being recorded as FROM coronavirus, irregardless of presence of an underlying condition.

No way Most Americans feel they are actually lower

The tea number of people who have had it is higher too.

...and ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, are beholden to shareholders who don’t want to see or hear COVIDー19 truths.

Fake news

Bullshit

So adding in all the people who did from other causes but might have the virus isn’t enough for you

wendylee21742 MAGA

Compare all death rates nationally Every year last 10 yeas

Of course it is. The jerk in the wh tells states not to use numbers to report unemployed. You think he's going to be honest about the deaths?

NickFromJersey

President never mentioned this?

Result of not prepared well for Covid_19 pandemic .

Exactly why people are not being tested enmasse

yeah for cases that is right for deaths I say prove it. another lie by our news to scare people.

WELL ITS PEAKING THEY SAY OH BOY !!

I’ve read, if a person dies who has not been tested, even IF the medical care providers believe the person had Covid19, w/o the test, the COD is not listed as Covid19.

Trump hides and lies so unless it’s reported independently we won’t know.

No it ain't, that's why yall mostly post the stats from the worldwide data base.

A-ha 😯 .. no one knows by how much. 😈😇

How bout posting about people who recovered from this for once. .

Yup ABC keepup the fear mine ring! That’s your lane.

Total fakenews fear mongering and as far as im concerned terrorism via psyop. I guess you missed the Brix presser where she said death totals were”liberal”

Same can be said with criminal politicians!

I HATE U CHINA!! FOR THE PAIN N SORROW U BROUGHT TO THE EARTH! KARMA WILL COME TO U!! EVIL EMPIRE!🤬🤬🤬🤬👎

Probably 2-3x the reported number.

There is no way it is higher. It is lower based on the news that hospitals have been counting any deaths as a Covid one even w/o testing but just because they have some symptoms.

Are there tons of dead bodies we haven't found yet or something? The numbers are actually skewed higher not lower. Die from heart attack but seen for shortness of breath? Marked COVID-19. Hospice for cancer, COPD or other disease get a fever?COVID-19 death. Don't even req a test.

I have seen news like this before,when u reported the outbreak in China,U used the same words,now,could people trust u again?

So what are the Total Deaths in the state during this period? Oh, and NY should have been more alert much earlier.

Multiply by 10 and the number will be closer. There will be over a Million death's in the USA. It will continue until there is a vaccine that is, rapidly, distributed like the Polio vaccine, was, in the 1950's. Eventually there will be a Pandemic that will kill over 1/3 of world.

Has anyone else noticed the reported number of heart attacks and stroke deaths has dropped to near zero now? And all those deaths are reported as covid deaths. Just more hype. Death tolls are nothing compared to other viruses that have been ravaging the world.

Or the real number of Coronavirus caused deaths are lower because people are dying of other causes with traces of the virus showing up in their system. In fact, that infants death in Connecticut had nothing to do with coronavirus but was reported differently.

ABC is for the lemmings. Do some real reporting. Covid numbers are probably lower due to classification procedures and hospital reimbursement incentives.

Why are they all listed as COVID related? How many die on a regular day?

RonaldKlain Of course! They are only reporting the CONFIRMED cases. The real numbers could be 10x higher.

Now we get the fake people whining about Fake News.

Do you mean in China and Iran? Looll

And the real number of cases is at least 10 times higher than the 'real number' of deaths making this even less lethal. But you only want to report it one way. FAKENEWS

*lower Regular pneumonia numbers magically down this year hmmm🤔 Pneumonia deaths being counted as Covid deaths🤷‍♂️

Fake News!

raidergyrl Od course it is.

The estimates are enough to worry about

Trump lies, people die.

Can someone people ask the potus what the exact number actually is!? And how many healthcare workers have contracted the virus? He is the one responsible for protecting the American people as a “war” president so he must know the numbers.

'There is no doubt the official death toll is an undercount,” New York City Councilman Mark Levine, the health committee chairman, tells News.

We don’t believe you. Deaths from all other causes are way down. You lie.

Nation wide lock down. Why can’t that happen? Like other countries are doing?

Are they now...

Sure looks like another fake picture , a lot of them going around

Not surprised you are reporting probably the exact opposite of what is actually happening.

Nothing coming out of liberal media are TRUE. Its way lower than reported because all deaths at hospitals are recorded as COVID-19 Deaths. ABC is a Fake News

Soooooooo you're saying the U.S. lies like China.....So so so.....why do liberals use so so much.. so liberally?

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Keep safe wanderlovipity

Fake News designed to scare people . The facts are they’re “Claiming “ most deaths are from Covid-19 .

Attention: This is FAKE NEWS! The sooner you realize your government and media are lying about this, the sooner your questions will be answered. Check with your friends and family, go to local hospitals and medical centers. There is NO PANDEMIC!! Plannedemic filmyourhospital

Lockdown ...Now !! ..,thats the answer .. 😌

Who cares. Not even one Death is acceptable. How did India keep that Low? Amazing. USA acted negligently by letting Asian crafts and tourists into USA territories. End of story

LIARS. it is over counted because Hospitals are labeling any respiratory death or flu as covid for more federal funding. WE are not stupid. You people are propagandists.

Maybe or maybe even less. I’m hearing hospitals getting funded for virus deaths. Sort of makes it easy for a hospital to have a patient come in with gun shot wound to the chest, test positive for virus, dies, result of death is virus.

Which means the number of cases is probably higher therefore decreasing the current mortality rate

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