Australia buys US nuclear subs due to changed security needs

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Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison says his government decided to invest in U.S. nuclear-powered submarines and dump its contract with France to build diesel-electric submarines because of a changed strategic environment.

President Joe Biden on Wednesday had announced a new U.S. security alliance with Australia and Britain that would develop an Australian nuclear-powered submarine fleet.

“Of course they’re disappointed,” Morrison said. “They’ve been good partners. This is about our strategic interest, our strategic capability requirements and a changed strategic environment and we’ve had to take that decision.” The first of the 97-meter Shortfin Barracuda submarines, an adapted French nuclear sub design, was to be delivered in 2027.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said Thursday that New Zealand wasn’t asked to be part of the alliance and wouldn’t have expected an invitation. Morrison said Ardern was the first foreign leader he called to explain the new alliance. He later called the leaders of Japan and India. The two countries combined with the United States and Australia form the Quad security dialogue.

 

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France should sell its submarines to EU Bloc Members. After all, all the countries within the EU can trade freely with each other.

Exhaust fumes from diesel engines is worrysome. 12:55 AM Mon, September 20, 2021 australia

France makes quality prodects. US uk are third class countries

AUSFUK, FRAUKUS, FUKUSA & FAUKUS really didn't meet the big expectations of the negotiators of the treaty for nuclear submarines between our countries🤣 Sorry France but your 'F-bomb' is hard to fit in there & not be utterly HILARIOUS🤣 It's really not that personal, ya know?

USA is strong in terms of defence of technology. But on what basis can Australia trust them? Although USA provides enough aid to others, it has been known to dump countries at a very crucial time of need. Australia should be very careful about this.

The PM had not even meet the French Ambassador no-one from the government had..and the PM is a liar

Hmmm - And long may we remember The Rainbow Warrior DEBACLE. France to a TEE. As if they have EVER assisted in the IndoPacific. GET REAL, MACRON. The Sub deal years old and ZERO progress.

Trump was better. You will miss him!

From all accounts, the diesel Barracuda would have been a piece of junk . No fan of Government but for Australia defence it’s a no brainer . J

IT LOOKS LIKE GRETA THUNBERG & CLIMATE CHANGE PROTESTERS ARE WASTING THEIR TIME. THE WORLD NEEDS SOME MORE 'NATURAL DISASTERS', PREFERABLY IN AUSTRALIA, AMERICA, THE UK, FRANCE & CHINA, WITH MILLIONS OF HUMANS DYING BUT ALL ANIMALS SURVIVING!!

matoxley +1

The French president was crying in the toilet.

Ohhh the fight is about money. I thought they were seriously upset about US AND UK leaving behind FRANCE while having a new friend on board but at the end is all about money. Nothing to see here move along

Well, diesel powered submarines do sound like outdated technology. Sorry France.

They're so afraid of someone else running the world. As if they're doing such a great job. Their way has led to repeated economic disasters and now; an ongoing pandemic and climate collapse. Seriously, let someone else have a go at it.

The UK can’t be trusted to keep it’s word, and Australia has now proven equally untrustworthy. No government with any sense should be doing business with either.

wont be here until 2040, plenty of time to sabotage the production line and logistics to prevent a weapon of mass destruction from being built. Hopefully the whole world gets on board to stop them and their disgusting behavior..

'Aux barricades!' French people are rioting in the streets over a stupid shot & mask. We've pulled our collective asses out the graveyard of nations. At this moment nobody needs a submarine for: $90,000,000,000. People have nations to repair.

'Aux barricades!' French people are rioting in the streets over a stupid shot & mask. We've pulled our collective asses out the graveyard of nations. At this moment body needs a submarine for: $90,000,000,000. People have nations to repair.

What a con job. How is China a threat to Australia when it is half a world away ? It is about time these ‘allies’ started to look to how they can sharpen up their home manufacturing bases for producing their own goods instead of being almost totally reliant on the east.

It really is a stupid move: it hurts NATO, it damages the FranceAustralia partnership, it heightens tensions with China, it undermines nonproliferation. The only winners are the Brits, who get rewarded for Brexit and can save the face of globalbritain. Huge own goal...

FirstSquawk wasting taxpayers dollars again like the Collins class fiasco

I'm not sure the US new policy to screw over EU companies is a good idea. Yes, the EU is easily bullyable, yes it prevents the EU becoming a geopolitical competitor, but it does weaken support the US might have needed in the future.

UK and Australia linking future with US and will follow as per US directions. Afghanistan good example - once US pulls out others too weak to do otherwise. Need counter-balance to US whose track record is not great.

Former Australia PM Malcolm Fraser: Australia risks being pulled into a disastrous war against China because successive Australian governments have surrendered the nation's strategic independence to US.

Does it count as de-carbonization and fighting climate change?

Will Australia get actual Nuclear powered submarine in about 3.23 years for certain before next US Presidential elections?

This will be a deadly move of Kangaroos as the development maybe last for long and the present fleet may obsolete in a couple of years. 6 Subs are not enough to deter the Chinese.

This government can respond to changing environments? They've done such a good job imitating rigid, unthinking, ideology driven dinosaurs that they had us all fooled.

The US will probably sell it to them on credit like everything else.

FirstSquawk And what use are they against hypersonic nukes and EMPs?...

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