As we all know, The Bachelorette’s Mike Planeta is a virgin—but that doesn’t mean he’s never had any sexual experiences. Speaking on the Talking It Out podcast, via Us Weekly, Mike said, “I am not some perfect little, like, you know, golden boy,” adding, “Dude, I am a very flawed human being. Like, I am extremely flawed.”

He went on to say, “I’m very open about this: I may not have had, like, sex, sex, but I’ve slipped up and I’ve had oral sex. For me, that was one of the moments where, like, the two times I did slip up and do those things, those were things that taught me actually the significance of why I actually was putting sex on such a pedestal.”

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Mike went on to explain that, in his opinion, sex is “a bonding thing, it’s a connection thing, like, it can mask a lot of issues if you’re not communicating and talking about a lot of these things.” He also explained that he's “an extremely sexual dude” not a “saint.”

“When people think of somebody waiting, right, they think like, [they’re a] prude or they’re not interested in sex or they don’t want to have these things,” Mike said. “No, like, I have all these urges probably times 10, right? These are urges that I, like, fight every single day but it’s not about me.”

As Us Weekly notes, Mike spoke about why he’s waiting to have sex until marriage on the Bachelor Happy Hour podcast, saying, “One of the biggest desires in my heart is, obviously, to have sex, you know, with my wife. It’s like, ’Okay, well, then you need to put in work before you’re granted that gift.’ Right? So that’s how I view it.”

As a reminder, Mike was eliminated after his first one-on-one date with Katie on Monday—but should be making an appearance on the upcoming “Men Tell All” special, so stay tuned!