We can't talk about racism without understanding whiteness | Priyamvada Gopal

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To dismantle racial hierarchy, we need to start by discussing the power it grants those on top, says the academic Priyamvada Gopal

When it comes to race and racism, we focus on those at the sharp end of discrimination – from black people routinely subjected to police brutality to people of colour missing from positions of influence. Progressive ideals invoke “inclusion” for ethnic minorities, or special bias training. These measures may be necessary, but they put the focus squarely on those subjected to victimisation – rather than the system that perpetuates racism.

 

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What matters is equal treatment in the public sphere: equality of opportunity and equality before the law. When we have (re)achieved that, white people will no longer be second-class citizens. Douglas Murray:

In a world without whiteness you'd be the shawled-up wife of a chai wallah living in some malaria-infested hut along the Ganges.

We get it.. You think white people as an ethnic group with their white ideas and their white cultures have a negative impact on western society, and need to be changed. Please tell us more about fighting racism..

WHITENESS

One also needs to understand all the other “ness” To talk as if only whites are racist is preposterous Ask South Asians who gives them the most abuse Survey petrol station staff, many SriLankans Ask East Asians. Ask older Afro-Caribbeans who You might not like the answer.

You can’t. Stop projecting your inner brokenness upon other.

All whites should resign from The Guardian and give them to oppressed Black...I'm waiting

Race baiter

Gopal - born in Delhi into an India with a repressive caste system & an extraordinary wealth divide. Daughter of a diplomat she knows personally how power is wielded by those at the top. Gopal is toning down her extreme views after her ban by Twitter & getting here via Guardian

In my opinion real racism is when African migrants select a small, vulnerable, European island with a total disregard for that island's centuries of battle against occupation and demand take over privilege because of the colour of their skin. This to me is true racism!

. Toxic IdentityPolitics. Creating division through racism to fight racism. It’s like DianeAbbot‘s DivideAndRule remark- same idea being used here. .

Your aving a giraffe aren’t you - ask those in poverty about white hierarchy - I don’t think racism would be on their list of topics to discuss. This sort of divisive neo Marxists journalism provides no solutions other than encouraging hate.

whether it be ethnicity, nationality, gender, race or religion equality for non-members is not inherent in any structural power.

Strip it down to human tribalism. Each group sets up a power system to benefit its members and maintain some form of purity.

She's not white, so she has absolutely no credibility in discussing anything about whiteness.

PriyamvadaGopal So, what makes you think you're qualified to explain whiteness? Imagine if I went to India to explain brownness and demand brown people to change their society. That would't look good, right? Many would probably accuse me of colonialism, and rightfully so.

that tweet is pretty racist sounding, or hyper ignorant at best. Did losing Brexit cause this?

How unsurprising that the Guardian would pay for a piece written by a divisive, bigot. Wonder if you would be prepared to discuss the power wielded by the BAME community running the modern day slave labour workshops in Leicester?

As Ms Gopal acknowledges she is in a privileged position by virtue of her caste, why does she not yield her professorship to a someone from the Dalit?

the Guardian is a racist newspaper that publishes racists.

Wonder when she will suggest to black men their children would do better if they hung around to raise them?

I thought you guys were against giving a platform to racists

It’s obvious, if you’re the only black kid in town & get up to mischief with your mates you’re always the one that gets caught, together with the ginger kid. That’s not racism, it’s being distinctive.

Imagine going to India or Pakistan and saying, 'We can't talk about racism without understanding brownness' You'd be considered a race-baiting fool and duly ignored. We used to know how to react to morons like Gopal.

More like we need to understand why those of a certain colour/race automatically feel inferior. It's not whites that make them feel inferior, more like inherent low self esteem - that certainly only affects a small minority of a particular colour/race!

Kneel if you want to but do not coerce others to do it. Anyone who gets satisfaction out of forcing people to kneel - for any reason - is a dubious kind of person.

The term 'racial hierarchy' is a convenient red herring.What I and many like me object to is our hard won ancestral Irish identity/heritage being appropriated by people who so eagerly abandon their own. Respect for the Irish people and our age old hard won Irish identity, please!

So you want to ‘dismantle’ the rights of 85% of the population, wow, not much support for that. You do know very few people support this Marxist rubbish constantly being spouted.

Try saying 'white lives don't matter' to these children...

Interesting segment, “For Ignatiev, whiteness was not a biological fact so much as a kind of ideological club where “the members go through life accepting the benefits of membership, without thinking about the cost” to others.” Very true.

Just a reminder of who this racist Priyamvada Gopal is.

Who gets this ? The Establishment ? We don't . Get the Hell outa eh Europe u are 100% Pigswill . We understand Blacks ? We see it every night 🌃 missed it yesterday ? ! Ur nothing but Neo lib Racist Snowflakes ❄ Traitors will feel the Full laws of our Courts . U will be closed.

I can't believe the Guardian is publishing opinion pieces from this hateful woman.

What is this shxt? It's simple - some of us have white/pink skin and some of us have brown/black skin - what's to 'understand'

The road of dismantling whiteness leads to genocide.

As a white man it is not the purpose of my existence to win the approval of an inbred, Indian immigrant like Priyam!

Gopal, again!? Cmon Guardian, let someone else have a chance.

“Whitness”? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

Why am I not surprised that the Guardian is giving a platform to a known racist 🤦🏻‍♂️

All Hail the white

All Lives Matter

Clowns

The Mark of Cain is white skin ;)

If she has a problem with white people, GO BACK TO GHANA, LOVE.

racist 🤗

Whiteness is a disease

Just remember not only white people are racist. Children aren't racists; they are taught by racist adults to be racist, it happens in every Colour/Color, Race,Tribe, religion and Country(now think of those countries; with these elements).How do you stop/slow it; by Exposing it.

In the core of sectionalism lies the old marxist point-of-view thinking. Perhaps this is what makes identity politics a huge explosive to social cohesion😮

Its just majority priviledge, only cure is to replace white people which is not exactly pc.

Lets talk about grooming gangs and the mass rape of white working class children ,by 'asain'gangs

Total racist ignorance. You are doing far more harm to race relations than good.

We fight racism, not with racism, but with solidarity. Capitalism works, but not the greedy part of it. We fight greedy Capitalism with Socialism to help the abused,the sick, disabled,mental issues, and children education/hunger and well-being; to uplift a nation and its wealth.

Racism isn't whiteness. Go to Africa. Black Africans, White Africans, east Asians, South Asians, Arabian, all congregate generally speaking with their own type. It is human nature to be with who you feel comfortable with.

Why am I not surprised that the Guardian is printing an article by the charming Priyamvada Gopal. 😏

Total bollocks from a racist gobshit, who doesn't even attempt to support any of her outrageous claims with evidence.

This person sees alot of colour where others don't.

Gopal the racist isn't worth a second of my time ..

Yeah, because all white people are racist with superiority complex.....blah blah blah 😝

The leftist idea/ideal that racialist group identification and identity politics would somehow not lead to whites seeing/identifying themselves as a racialized group was/is the height of naivety.

The racial hatred and anti-white bigotry of the Guardian on full display.

😂😂😂😂

Do we mean whiteness as a construct of privileged academics like Gopal or the whiteness of actual white folks from Vladivostock to Prague to Dublin to Québec to Anchorage to Sydney to Durban? From Ancient Greece & Rome through to, say, the Moon Landings? Beware her Manichaeism...

White means everyone else is THE OTHER. I'm white. It's not intentional. What creates it? Who creates it? Do Asians feel that way about OTHER in Asia ? Blacks about OTHER in Africa? Is me other connected back to single cell survival? We are not single cell but Well maybe Trump

Playing with semantics here...arguing BLM matter because they have not to date in western society verses white lives don’t matter because they already do in western society is still all about seeding division along race lines...you can’t shout this slogan without accepting this

The usual self loathing indian painting a distorted view of the caste system Hinduphobia

That sounds like a very leading statement.

“This is what brings us to “whiteness” – which is not a biological category so much as a set of ideas” Except when it isn’t.

Equal opportunities do not even occur amongst white people. Many depend simply on being in the right place at the right time, or on who you know, or which school you attended. It would be great if we lived in a meritocracy where colour didn't matter, but that will never happen !!

Oh look, the giving another racist a platform 🤦‍♀️

Hands up! Don't kneecap me!

Why do racists get given a platform by the media

Somewhat of a controversial source recently.

Whiteness = the new bourgeoisie for the neo bolsheviks to attack

Yet this article doesn’t mention that Black Lives Matter leaders are trained Marxists, they’re into Marxism, here’s their co-founder Patrisse Cullors on video saying she’s a trained Marxist. This is not good for our country

This is deeply hypocritical coming from a Brahmin

'Science and the humanities are largely in accord that “race” is not a biological category, but a way of creating power differentials, which have practical consequences.' 'Power differentials' isn't a scientific concept. It's part of Critical theory. Don't be disingenuous.

PriyamvadaGopal says white lives 'already matter more than others'. Perhaps she could explain this to the grooming victims whose cases weren't fully explored due to fears of inciting racial tensions?

The Guardian once again trying to start a race war

Entertaining rhetoric from this bigot is why the Guardian has become a byword for bias trash. It use to be measured and intelligent, now it's just a mouthpiece for all lefty woke nut jobs. Still I doubt if it'll be around for much longer.

How many years since Rotherham report? White people do face hardship due to virtue of having white skin.

Also this is opinion not news. In the real news racism is only in Democratic controlled states because democrats are nazis and klan members who condone black genocide through abortion and sell the baby parts for profit . Time to wake up .

What's that then ?

Why do western nations need to cater to the wants of foreigners? They left their home countries for a reason, why try to change your new home into the old home you 'fled'? Doesn't make much sense to bitch about Western Nations while living and massively benefiting from it.

There is no whiteness outside the imaginations of minorities. I get it, when 90% differ from you & every time you’re pulled up for a mistake it’s by one of those 90% you conclude it’s because you’re different. NO, it’s because you aren’t there when they treat everyone the same.

Obsessed

moved on you should do the same

Now we know why The Guardian turns of the comments on its website.. you are becoming a joke.

All you seem to do is talk about racism.

Do you realize how ironic that is? You are the worst racists.

What is the world population of white people? Just curios.

Please GTFO

It's the historical source of racism

Being white is not a crime or nothing to be ashamed of. If you have a problem with that, you guys can leave the western countries.

White man bad

This article is racist.

Very true

No surprise that the Guardian is giving a platform to this disgusting racist phoney academic.

LOL!!!

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