Newsnight

It is thought Sir Jake will not be criticised in tomorrow's report

Acknowledges that there's a lag re: the impact of interest rate rises but wants further interest rate rises regardless.

2 people died on our streets every day of last year. I can not respect the Tories or the wealthy elite who profit off the poor and let them die. The joke is when they die their money can not help them. I don't care about dead Tories. They are crass greedy fascist coward's.

It's not as if the economy is going to grow out of control. She's spot on.

Those with are profiting on those without.

The terrorist BankOfEngland are the cause of UK's high inflation. You don't print £2Trillion QE and launder it through UK's insolvent banks, and massively devalue the UK £Pound driving up ALL import costs, and think inflation won't exist. THIS IS A DELIBERATE PLAN. newsnight

Nothing to do with corporate profiteering? Of course a government of profiteers could never admit that. We cannot expect solutions from the problem makers.

What I want to know is how people live with this because almost daily I consider giving up on everything. I'm never going to own a house, I'm never going to be able to afford to retire. We're told to 'enjoy the one life you have' but we can't so why can't I just give up?

A wage squeeze while a man spends £100 million of public money in one day for his own ego.

They want people to be poor: you’re easier to control in every single way.

Stop benefits after 6 weeks if you haven’t found a job It might not be your first choice job but you look for that whilst employed To many have readjusted to live on less since the lockdown and need to be encouraged back to work

👆complete nonsense. Wages have been growing slower than the economy for over a decade. Current inflation is caused by supply side effects and profiteering.

Tory voters don’t seem to care as there all loaded

But, it’s not the 70s! And increasing interest rates is clearly not working.

'Siri, show me someone heavily invested in CapitalismAndGreed '..🙄🤦‍♀️🚮

1970s' inflation was a totally different story.

RaeSnape 200 years. Blimey.

nicholaswatt Absurd comment. These people are bullies and crooks transporting innocent people against their will to a foreign country. The BBC’s lack of thorough questioning is connivance. Sharp/Gibb TV.

Shouldn’t the concentration be on profiteering. Why does Newsnight never discuss that ?

WM aka fooking Natzis

Money was handed out, it has to come back, especially landlords, none of whom saw a cut during the pandemic, commercial as much as residential.

'... what are the reasons for that? Sickness, low pay, high rent, insecurity...' I was expecting ' Brexit', but alas it never came.

These always wrong economists, are just constantly making this shit up as they go along.

This is nothing like the 1970's,and inflation can't be controlled by rises in interest rate,you said what was causing inflation. Prime example is food which a lot of it we have to import.

If government won't tackle the profiteering of supermarkets and energy giants whilst expecting the central bank to single handedly tackle inflation then what can they do but raise interest rates? What other tools do they have. (Other than timing their interventions better)

This is a non-story dim lot at . UK inflation the highest recorded in the EU as is fuel and food costs. Torylawbreakers

nicholaswatt What about morality and humanity? The facts are really missing from this conversation, balance and an appropriate challenge to the inhumanity of it all.

Actually laughing as he says it, it’s so ridiculous. Hey, but at least we got what we all voted for yeah?

BenPBradshaw No wonder nobody watches 'Newsnight' any more. The programme should have been axed years ago.

BenPBradshaw The Norman Conquest was the best thing that ever happened to England.

BenPBradshaw Britain did not even exist in 1066.

Is great we are forced by law to pay for the anti UK Pro EU BBC Talk about a loaded question! Yea the UK hasn’t invented anything….oh except the internet oh and Mr Ives from Apple What a shame you were to embarrassed to point that out But BBC has to constantly run the UK down

Ahahahhahahahahhahahhaha

pianofire One of my Acorn/BBC Heroes! 😍

Brexit is a fools paradise

We will be unlikely to even avoid irreparable economic collapse; this will however be nothing to do with Brexit but I'm sure the BBC will still tell you that it is because they are part of the malaise that ails us.

interesting thought.

We need bureaucrats from a different country to tell us what to do and make everything the same

Reality check!

This is what happens when the Mainstream Media believe politicians like Hunt and are then faced with the facts of an expert. Quite stark really 👇

I see the pro brexit bots are out in force desperately trying to keep the dwindling faithful on side.

I'd like the drugs this guy is on please. newsnight

We came out of Brexit to get away from Herman Hausers. Still, as we are the most inventive, human, entrepreneurial country in Europe, I am sure his comments are not worth listening to! Sometimes one step back will ultimately mean three steps forward.

I wonder what definition of sovereignty he using?

Love that people are still complaining about brexit, turning out to be the best vote ever, cheers me up everytime 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

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Sathnam Wait, THE Herman Hauser? Co-founder of Acorn Computers Herman Hauser? Now there's a name I haven't heard in a loooong time.

Sathnam Maybe we’re just not believing hard enough…

YAWN.

alan_firth_ The truth stings

Manipulative men pull the wool over the eyes of the gullible whether social workers or parole panels, looking for signs of rehabilitation. But violent men who see their partner/spouse & children as 'their' property, also see it as their 'right' to kill.

Jesus...... that woman still our tvs? DefundTheBBC

vicderbyshire Ostrich with head in sand JimFairlieLogie what a performance that was in choosing your words 😂🤣🤡

vicderbyshire Very positive?!

vicderbyshire You always know when you’re listening to an indoctrinated cult member. Scottish and Irish flag pins, no love for his English brothers and sisters 🤷‍♂️

vicderbyshire The police have yet to charge ANYBODY in theSNP but BBCNews are accusing them of being a criminal organisation ?

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vicderbyshire 🚗💥🚙

We need a referendum on capital punishment.

vicderbyshire “Good apart from the arrests and delays to our loony-left policies”…

vicderbyshire 🤣🤣

vicderbyshire That'll upset the SNP acolytes!!!

vicderbyshire What a loonball. Barking mad.

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vicderbyshire Tick tock Nicoliar … your turn soon 😉😆👍🏻

vicderbyshire Is that an Irish flag on his jacket ?

vicderbyshire 100% heads gone!

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FacundoSavala vicderbyshire Innocent till proven guilty? Didn’t seem that way with Michelle Thomson who was suspended in a flash.

vicderbyshire Hopefully won’t be too long until she’s arrested 🤔

vicderbyshire Alex Salmond was not guilty - Sturgeon turfed him out of the party or forced him to resign given the arrest. Right thing to do, now Sturgeon should be released from the SNP, along with Mr Murrell & Beattie.. if guilty, the pensions should be rescinded immediately.

vicderbyshire The bit were the BBC diverted everyone’s attention away from Rishi Sunak’s wife and her corrupt and greedy ways! Our taxes funded her companies - she owes us 40 million in taxes and we want it back!! RishiSunak - you and your family are despicable

vicderbyshire How would newsnight bbcnews describe impartiality with Scottish politics? Very impartial actually Really, which bit was impartial?

Really well said, JDev63 💔. Strength and solidarity to you and Carole_Gould17 in your campaign for justice for your daughters.

vicderbyshire 🤡

themajorityscot vicderbyshire So innocent until proven guilty for fellow snp members? Don’t remember you saying that during party hate

Such admiration for Julie Devey and Carole Gould speaking for their beautiful daughters. What utter agony. I am grateful they were speaking to vicderbyshire - a masterclass in sensitive but effective interviewing. I had no idea of the disparity in sentencing. It must end.

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vicderbyshire It was full of aggression and blame all they did was blame U.K. Labour tories Westminster

vicderbyshire But it’s strange why people were arrested while police investigated yet we have had no arrests in Westminster for a string of fraudulent activity related to contracts. Seems so like stuff happening in certain other countries.

Heartbreaking.💔 It doesn't bare thinking about what these mothers are going through.

vicderbyshire 'Which bit was positive?' 'Well... I haven't been arrested...'

Extraordinary strength. It is all from and for their girls. My brother was taken too soon and as they recounted seeing their daughters it took me back. Taking my mum to the morgue to see him. The shock means you struggle to comprehend what you are seeing. The reality agony.

The Kishida Japanese Cabinet is extremely evil and denies Japan's war crimes, and is a mad country that tries to release contaminated water from the Fukushima nuclear power plant without permission to neighboring countries.

vicderbyshire The Kishida Japanese Cabinet is extremely evil and denies Japan's war crimes, and is a mad country that tries to release contaminated water from the Fukushima nuclear power plant without permission to neighboring countries.

The Kishida Japanese Cabinet is extremely evil and denies Japan's war crimes, and is a mad country that tries to release contaminated water from the Fukushima nuclear power plant without permission to neighboring countries.

The Kishida Japanese Cabinet is extremely evil and denies Japan's war crimes, and is a mad country that tries to release contaminated water from the Fukushima nuclear power plant without permission to neighboring countries.

vicderbyshire That nails it for me now. Used the word 'dissassociate' - That's a word my former cult used for me when they kicked me out. The other word they use is Disfellowship. Victoria, you know of my former cult. Jehovah's Witnesses. You interviewed one of my friends on shunning.

vicderbyshire the domestic murder of women should be regular headline news, not treated as it currently is, an unremarkable fact of life. Male producers find American mass shootings sexier, but they're irrelevant to Britain. newsnight

vicderbyshire Well they haven't lost as much as Fox News

vicderbyshire Fs brass neck aff this Tory./// ma bad 😉

Said man whose party had to force one leader out due to constant lies, another because she almost bankrupt the UK and we still haven't got the whole story on their funnelling billions in public money to their donors & friends or their funding from individuals close to Putin ...

vicderbyshire Okaaaaaaay.

vicderbyshire Did I actually hear you call the SNP 'rotten'?

vicderbyshire Fairlie is an utter joke 🤣🤣🤣🤣

vicderbyshire Reading between the lines, this Fairlie character is saying 'I think they can get off with it' 😆

vicderbyshire A huge fraud investigation and the alleged irregularities all occurred while Sturgeon was leader. The way Jim Fairlie said 'Nicola Sturgeon hasn't been arrested yet' showed he was happy to bluff it out. It is almost inconceivable that the leader wouldn't get asked questions.

vicderbyshire Snp … move along nothing to see here 😂😂 cough cough

vicderbyshire The man’s a fecking 🤡

'Overkill - beyond that necessary to kill'. Hard to believe that's even a concept. raab - and whoever else - has a major, major empathy deficit.

FacundoSavala vicderbyshire Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!

raab is has defacto decriminalised rape. That’s what he thinks.

Well said vicderbyshire 👏

vicderbyshire SNP, and Tory, disaster. Would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

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Buy buy referendum

Torys have no understanding of irony there is no greater more corrupt party in the uk

Perhaps that could be the SNP next election slogan . “We are just as corrupt as the Tories but with tartan on “

Deepest sympathies to these two wonderful ladies. So terribly, terribly sad. Thoughts are with you and your families. Well done Victoria on the interview too.

vicderbyshire Can’t wait for Insp. McKnacker to grill Sturgeon. Judging by Mystic Gill’s cryptic FB rants, Nippy’s shitting her gusset.

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Heartbreaking stories, the courage of these ladies was inspirational. Domestic abuse cases have to be reviewed with stronger sentences for anyone murdering their partners. Justice for lives taken way too early 💔💔💔

That was utterly heartbreaking.

What a hard watch this was, heartbreaking and horrifying to see such a disparity in sentencing just because they were murdered in their homes!

This was incredible. Absolutely heartbreaking. Victoria Derbyshire is the best newscaster/journalist ever. Just lovely with a so sad subject. Please give V QT please. Shes the best and Bruce parades as a tory and it's getting boring. Plus, she keeps talking over people 🤷‍♂️😊

vicderbyshire This is absolutely unbelievable. This is not governance. These lot need stripping ASAP

vicderbyshire Is he high ?

How utterly devastating! These mothers are so brave. I hope their campaign to change the law is successful 🕊️

Courage to these mothers, two of many, who have lost daughters to murderers in the home 💔💔💔💔 Yes, this is disgusting. murderinthehome maleviolence womenarenotsafeanywhere justice bbcnewsnight

What a credit these woman are to their daughters. Speaking so eloquently on this subject. I wish them all the success in challenging the justice system

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vicderbyshire Obviously one can't second guess the police investigation, but I do find it rather strange that people like Miles Briggs in some oblique way purport to be speaking for the interests of SNP members, many of whom would never vote Tory.

vicderbyshire Was the story moved on by Police Scotland engaging in another performative intervention in (what would anywhere else be) a civil case? They must be the most inefficient police force in the world, but I'd still rather have them than the Met.

BBCNews If we listened to relatives of victims we’d bring back hanging

BBCNews Why is Julie Devey’s opinion relevant? She’s not an expert in the justice system.

No one can actually empathise with these poor poor parents unless you've had to do it yourself. My thoughts are with you. ❤️

BBCNews How can these mothers ever get over this?

Nothing to do with AS.

What sort of title is leader of Alba? Is this like Farage again, one man and his dog given media oxygen to shit stir with Russian encouragement ? Should sanctions in support of Ukraine not include a ban on RT toadies on ?

The bottle return scheme works incredibly well in Scandinavia! There are bottle-banks at most supermarkets. Bottles make money! 💶💰💶💰

Bin fire of a thread as expected … what has he said that is wrong or inappropriate🤷🏻‍♂️ He’s articulating what many independence supporters are thinking, we need to discuss where we are and how the movement moves forward, attacking AS isn’t helpful 🤷🏻‍♂️

Let’s face it, Alba won’t gain any supporters from the general population. The only place they will get supporters is from the SNP. Hence the tirades against the SNP, this will not help independence, but Alba don’t care about that, it’s all about destroying the SNP. WE SEE YOU

There he is, announcing phase two right on cue 'Independents shouldn't put their faith in theSNP I'm here with my sparkling white Alba party ready & willing to poach members.' Tories & the Starmer Party smirk and say 'That'll do nicely, pal, it puts Indyref2 back a decade!

Stop giving Jabba a platform.

Rogue_74 Alex Salmond is being used by the right wing media, and he doesn’t care. His ego is out of control. He will do anything to attempt to be relevant. It isn’t sad, it’s shameful.

Alex Salmond tried desperately to get Ash Regan elected as SNP leader. That’s all you need to know about the quality of Alex Salmond’s thought processes. 🙄

You’re really platforming that creepy sex pest whose party can barely break 1%?

Alba2ndvote The Humaza that meekly accepted the Chief Mammy finger snap shut it! Oh aye, can see him forging out on his own.

Indeed, yes... 🤨

He's absolutely spot on. Shows a great deal of humility towards Sturgeon, far more than she deserves, especially from him.

fascinatorfun Fox, its personalities (they’re not newscasters), Murdoch, producers, etc wrote down they knew the the information they were broadcasting were lies. All that information is in the record. I hope they lose everything. The damage they’ve done is immense.

BBCScotlandNews & interviews themselves mostly (here with hapless AlexSalmond undermining the cause) in order to comment on the facts it thinks are most relevant to politics North & South of the border! In other words lying unionist propaganda! independence

faisalislam There's a neutral observer whose views no one was prepared to challenge

Alex who?

solamiga

faisalislam His proxy candidate came third, so he doubles down on attacking the SNP and the government.

faisalislam Englands Indy movement though. Weird why it doesn’t exist.

faisalislam Anything to make a Muslim theSNP look bad - as conservatives have a AntiIslamic problem, so too the bbc will extend their publicly (state funded) owned voice, they will not stop until they will make up things to get rid of him out of office! But if listens to Israel then he’s…

faisalislam The turd that just won't flush has popped up again.

The fact it's hit this high bar, makes me think that Dominion has a very strong case and are more likely to win.

The former first minister of Scotland saying he should bin a policy that the parliament and all parties voted for…democracy manifest indeed.

Fox ‘News’ 😭😭😭😭🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

vicderbyshire Bring the nhs to its knees and we can have private health care ! Wonder how long this has been in the cards!

vicderbyshire If patient safety is priority with nurses why are some of them refusing to wear FFP2 masks? Something has to change, and soon as far too many patients have caught covid and died after being infected in a hospital or surgery.

vicderbyshire English nurses should keep campaigning until they are paid the same as Scottish nurses.

We see the government has Derbyshire as its strong spokesperson tonight. The younger reporter was, also, anti-nurses. Better was R4 at 5pm, where it was pointed out that the RCN members stood to gain a fair bit less than the other nursing body who accepted a deal. Bad reporting.

vicderbyshire It really is a sad situation, but that is no excuse for the government to exploit devotion as some kind of weakness, they are not a charity.

VictoriaLIVE I do wish media types would be objective & stop over egging the custard No patient safety cannot be guaranteed EVER because we have a confrontational govt have no plan for stopping people leaving My friend has relocated to NZ only this week like so many others

I hope the government stand firm. These people are not badly paid and have some of the best pensions and job security. They live in a different world compared to the private sector.

Total support for Doctors and Nurses fighting for fair pay against Richard Sharp's grubby little anti British fascist cabal...

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katelamble Tawdries!

katelamble Conservatives care to jump in here, I believe this is your mess?

katelamble Because tories

katelamble Because of the tories and their complicit friends in the media

BenChu_ this you?

BenChu_ Hey Newsnight - I think you forgot to tweet this correction. Just an oversight I'm sure - I know you'd want everyone to know you'd broadcast an untruth.

So you're happy that Sinn Fein are able to bring down Stormont at any time like 2017-2020? Also the GFA has been changed before - the St Andrews Agreement

Eoin and his party are campaigning to scrub bits of the GFA they don’t like, but it’s others who are abusing it.

Alliance still won't accept the result of the EU referendum result while they demand democracy is respected with them winning a few extra seats in the Assembly. They could designate Unionists for a day if they really want to be DFM to Sinn Fein.

I’m not sure he even knows what he means. Is he abusing democracy by demanding the electoral mandate that the duponline is ignored? allianceparty are calling for the Good Friday Agreement to be changed to suit their political aspirations.

The nasty party.

He's still high from thon poppers

‘Own it’

The structures of the GFA were abused by the Protocol / Framework. They killed the GFA. EoinTennyson needs to focus on the cause not the symptom.

He is right, a hypocrite, but right 'People are abusing the structures of the Good Friday agreement.' and they come from his party, the EU, US and UK governments. All those working to ignore, remove, the principle of consent around which the GFA was built. EoinTennyson

Cross community party objects to cross community voting as their votes don't count. Waste of time voting for the Alliance Party.

vanity case

Eoin Tennyson, people are abusing the structures of the GFA . Alliance along with the DUP are trying to kill the GFA.

The man boy doesn't speak for anyone

So he wants to alter the GFA? Imagine of the DUP had suggested this.

StephenFarryMP TRANSLATION: 'I want the democratic Assembly vote ignored, GFA agreement ripped up and rewritten, because I am not getting my full salary and it is ruining my Sundays'.

You don’t know what you’re talking about youngblood therefore…

little_pengelly KirstyWark Since when was The Good Friday agreement called The Befast Agreement- little_pengelly you called it that numerous times last night.........why

KirstyWark DUP given too much time to rant and rave spreading garbage of their own making had to use the fast forward to escape this floundering nonsense.

KirstyWark Every DUP members aim is to never have a situation where they aren't in charge.

StephenFarryMP Both sides abuse the GFA. If the GFA was so effective the province should be more United and less polarised!

Thanks for having me! Sorry to BenChu_ for the accidental identity theft! My book - It’s Not That Radical: Climate Action To Transform Our World - is available here if folks are interested!

The gallery say that its Ben Chu actually!

The allianceparty were happy to support sinnfeinireland SDLPlive while Stormont didn't sit for 3 years over an Irish language act...

KirstyWark Literally nobody voted for this bigot

Even if all electricity demand was met by non fossil fuels there would still be a huge volume of natural gas being used for domestic heating. I can see no government action to solve this problem. And BTW hydrogen (Green or otherwise) is not the answer.

KirstyWark This party is sprinting it’s way to irrelevance. A laundry list of problems and no solutions as usual. Their former party leader and their own party members ridiculed a visiting head of state 🇺🇸 that the UK wants a trade deal with. No one is listening anymore.

Well I am with him on this one, and I really hope DUP members such as Paisley get voted out. What did they imagine they were voting for when they were so firmly behind Brexit and leaving the single market. I think their behaviour has been despicable.

EoinTennyson Allliance’s credibility over Protocol issues is a bit shot though. They were berating unionists, including Remain unionists, for pointing out the unacceptability and unworkability of v1 of the Protocol - doing nothing to pressure Brussels and London to renegotiate.

EoinTennyson True words, spoken by a democratically elected MLA. Unlike the other MLA involved in this interview who didn’t receive a single vote against her name.

KirstyWark This unelected bigot went to war over the naming of a bus stop. So cross community is she that she didn’t want it correctly named. She loved the democracy of the Brexit vote but derides the democracy of the protocol. Take her opinion with salt, a very large pinch.

KirstyWark DUP's Emma Little Pengelly is not even a democratically voted in MLA. She got a popular vote MP Sir Jeffrey Donaldson to stand and took his position when he stepped down immediately after. TOTAL CORRUPTION AT THE HEART !!!

KirstyWark hard to debate anything with someone who listen to nothing; hostages to the past holding everyone else to ransom to please the few

I would love to see a program on production of lithium batteries for cars, their lifespan, recycling and their environmental impact. How much electricity will be needed to power all the electric cars in 2030?

KirstyWark What a charade. She is dreadful. And shame on Newsnight for letting her take all the time.

KirstyWark There is no cross community consent for the readmission of NI back into the U.K.

KirstyWark Cut off their pay and see how long their precious objectives last

I read her name was Ben Chu, three times ?!?

KirstyWark KirstyWark ensuring DUP representative gets most of the airtime without interruption. BBC bias again..

KirstyWark But the DUP is all the DUP will listen to. What a bunch of looney tunes they are.

KirstyWark Be a first for the DUPers to consider doing that....

KirstyWark Unelected ELP should do the job she was handed.

little_pengelly KirstyWark Interesting conversion by the DUP who clearly don’t listen to the vast majority who didn’t want Brexit and want a functioning government

KirstyWark The Dup and Theresa May held the UK to ransom now they talk about their place being in the UK 😂😂😂😂 90% of Britain don’t want anything to do with the north of Ireland. The Dup are a joke!!

KirstyWark This is the same ELP that no one voted for?

KirstyWark Says the daughter of a convicted gun runner for loyalist paramilitaries!!

KirstyWark Quoting the good Friday agreement which was rejected by the DUP, to argue for a result of brexit that was rejected by the people in NI. Sums the DUP up

KirstyWark The DUPs history tells us that they believe Dinosaurs walked the earth just 7000 years ago.

Did you ask him what he does on Sunday's?

KirstyWark Why didn't Newsnight challenge another duponline faces looping script of utter purile piffle?

little_pengelly KirstyWark You know what's vital? Doing the job you're paid to do.

KirstyWark AndyBurnhamGM POTUS JoeBiden WhiteHouse StateDept VP SecBlinken TheNewsAgents maitlis MishalHusain BBCWorld BBCNews CNN CNNPolitics cnni bianca_nobilo

KirstyWark Ireland belongs to the Irish ☘️

KirstyWark A bit rich given the DUP ignored most of those views when they held the balance of power.

KirstyWark The irony....

KirstyWark Tory Britain and Brexit are pushing Northern Ireland back into the welcoming arms of The Republic of Ireland. Well done!

The DUP are punishing the electorate for not making them the biggest party and giving them the top jobs, the DUP are political terrorists.

Another Newsnight episode which showcased the duponline over the majority of voters in Northern Ireland, was this a journalistic..?

Well said EoinTennyson!

Worried, patients are terrified.

“Just give us the 35% and we’ll go back to work!” 🤣🤣🤣

Sadly not, whatever these left wing strikers it would not be enough. Purely political.

Like we're supposed to bwlive what extreme leftwing union leaders 'believe' Hold them to account Beeb!

Would this by the same Lord Bethnal that ‘lost’ his phone when being investigated over £80 million in PPE fraud? Why are you allowing these shisters on to peddle their gaslighting? ToryCorruption TorySewageParty Brexit ToriesOut279

This is all the fault of our Government and its wish to kill the NHS

She spoke well

Drop demand to 34%, health secretary can go suck an egg then ! But are we there yet EddieHearn ?

Peterhahahart Correct. The Tories want this - there is no other conclusion to be made - they want them to be the scapegoats for their many deliberate failures

And Dr Runswick is correct

Lord Bethell can sit down.

Junior doctors are supported by the majority of the people, but aren't supported by the media. Which begs the question - who are the media speaking for?

'Does the BBC hold itself at all responsible for misinformation regarding masking and side effects of vaccinations? And not reporting on that at all? Elon Musk

Junior doctors supported by the majority of the people, but aren't supported by the media. Which begs the question - who are the media speaking for?

We need more Vax to make patient safety great again.

If Doctors do not go on strike for their own terms and conditions who will? 'It’s against the law to take part in ‘secondary action’ (going on strike in sympathy with people who work for a different employer).'

Govt wastes £32 billion on PPE Truss blows £30billion over night But those going on strike are wrong?

This the same guy who oversaw our PPE procurement? Niceone

vicderbyshire He says aggressively, using aggressive language.

This needs monitoring if someone dies because of this then the responsibility party needs to go to jail.

Oh dear anyone but The Tories please everyone at next General Election.

Get a grip Newsnight.

Sorry - why are we listening to Mr ‘I’ve deleted all the what’s app messages by mistake and I can’t find the important files’

A corrupted individual beyond salvation by medical intervention.

Yet another dodgy Tory. Vote this corrupt and incompetent mob out ASAP before they do any more damage.

Why are you not asking the opinion about the strike from the successful and independent medical professionals? Instead being instructed by Sharp and Gibbons to interview this disgraced, unsuccessful ex minister?

An incompetent minister, illegally supplied Hancock's lover with parliamentary pass. A health minister who used private e mail for ministerial business. Not qualified to give opinion on doctors strike.

JimBethell Did you delete the app after this call too

This government has failed to govern in the interests of ordinary people. Everyone except the very rich are literally becoming sick of it. Doctors have no choice. It cant go on.

Ideology and callous disregard for a nation's people which he has no clue nor empathy for. We are alien to these sick, ignorant, greedy psychopaths. Solidarity to JuniorDoctorsStrike

JimBethell Really? Would you rather have been slapped by a velvet glove and challenged to a duel at dawn Get a grip!!!!

The cuts were even more aggressive to patient welfare, you muppet ! But are we there yet EddieHearn ?

It’s a shame they privatised most of the NHS dentists your nashers need a lot of work

Really now tell the other side

The Tories incompetence is incredibly incompetent.

Found his phone then?

We’re proud of TheBMA and their incredibly aggressive moves 👏 It’s what 98% of us voted for

All of these senior people running the nhs have failed they need replacing based on skills not a tick list

Have you guys ever sat down and thought about this antiquated nonsense that you go on with Lord this and sir that or your highness and lady whatyoumacallher Someone needs to buy a fken calendar and figure out what century your living in

What does he expect from people on strike? Prat.

The Current government is breaking the NHS no one else they are criminals and they should be in prison 🤬

Pay the Doctors and be done

Whereas a cut of 35% in their pay over the last 15 years is not aggressive.

Tory scum

James Bethell managed to easily find millions to award covid contracts without competition and then conveniently discovered that he had deleted all the relevant whats app and text messages from his phone when the awarding of the contracts was subject to a legal challenge.

Lazy greedy gets

vicderbyshire 2 things. 1) It has been well known for weeks that the Dr's would strike if there was no negotiations. 2) Why not use the same pay scale MP'S use for their salaries over the last 13 years? MP'S are public employees the same as NHS doctors, surely barclay can't say that is unfair?

He was a farce

More aggressive than giving a massive real-terms pay cut over more than a decade followed by a 'Fuck you' attitude to negotiations?

Lord Bethell you say?

Just leaving this here.

And then he said he didn’t know the details. Why was he being interviewed? Did you pay him?

Lord Betthelot seemed to have trouble reading his script 'Extremely high wages!' I’d suggest he dreamt that up. Says he's feeling so sad, but yet no word of an offer from this 💩show of a government! BrexitChaos Torychaos

vicderbyshire Johnson supporter - nuff said.

Not aggressive enough, so think yourself lucky.

vicderbyshire THE GOVERNMENT ARE RESPONSIBLE! Crikey Moses! Who doesn't get that?

That's the Lord Bethell who lost/broke/changed his phone so none of his WhatsApp messages about the dodgy PPE deals he was involved in could be read?

For every question, use the answer : THE TORYS BROKE IT..torysbrokeit

They get paid like shit. Pay them more and the issue goes away. Simple.

vicderbyshire Whilst I have utmost sympathy for your featured patient and her hearing difficulties- PLEASE?! vicderbyshire why not pull her up on the point that ERunswickBMA made that her delays not originally caused by strikes - this exactly what strikes are aiming to highlight!

Getting a non elected nonentity to spout unsupported bias again I see The BBC is in the gutter

He’s a Tory and therefore by definition a c***

Doctors are worried about patient safety. That is why they want pay levels that attract and retain doctors instead of leaving for the private sector.

It’s every one letting your party no how poorly you’ve ran the UK for 12 yrs ! But one looks after one’s self ha ha !

Just watched. Dr Emma - brilliant! Speaks as it is, why it is, what we need to do. This crisis has not happened overnight - it’s a result of this Tory government’s ineptitude and Tory rationale in general of firefighting. We need forward planning and proper funding-not tax cuts.

BBCBreakfast JuniorDoctorsStrike wont affect SteveBarclay and Defo RishiSunak both undoubtedly has Private Health Care along with rest of Tory Government They dont care flying fig They are however causing general public to suffer Punish these reprobates at next Election

Not aggressive enough for this cabal of shysters and charlatans!

Isn’t it strange how those who have financial protections and aren’t living pay cheque to pay cheque are calling those who want fair pay “aggressive”

Says someone who gets paid £350 a day just for turning up at the HOL.

Lord Bethell again… Take a look at this hereditary peer’s CV and work experience I’d suggest making him health minster was a far more aggressive move.

The RPI answer was superb by Dr. Runswick and handed their arse to them on a plate.

This man needs to see a dentist.... Hopefully one that has had no discernible pay rise for 12yrs!!! 💉⛏️🦷🙊

Listen, don't you dare blame doctors who have devoted their lives to helping people, blame those who have devoted their lives to hurting them. People like Patel, a tobacco spin doctor who defended child slave labour.. Wake up you muppets.

Not impressed with Bethell…and it is sad the discussion is all about pay & not the other crap happening in the NHS.

She needs to be more worried about what Richard Sharp's BBC and decades of tory/new labour privatisation and corruption has been doing to the NHS

Why have him on? Knew nothing about disputes history & negotiations. Just a Johnson fluffer

Thirteen years of consistent wage reversal was pretty damned aggressive but waiting thirteen years to take strike action is really quite reserved and circumspect.

Why are you putting on the man who lied about his WhatsApps?

Aggressive, planned to create maximum disruption, designed to cause as much chaos as possible for patients and their families. It's callous and it's wrong. There can be no excuses.

Uggh hmmm ToryCriminals

Please advise the deaf lady that her gp or local pharmacy can assist her - totally irresponsible and unbalanced 'debate!'

How this man can show his face I don't know...

Disappointed to see you had former night club managerJames Bethel as a guest tonight considering the amount of scandal associate with him personally in relation to health industry lobbying. What credible contribution did you expect him to make in the Drs strike discussion ?

If you're a doctor, this country is behind you. You've done well in school, you've passed all your exams when we were getting shitfaced, you can do anything, and you've decided to dedicate your life to helping people. We love you. Thank you. ♥

Shocked how little a jnr Doctor earns justsortit

All they want is fair treatment. 13 years of abuse of the public sector workforce by the Tories has brought us here. Meanwhile, they make sure they don't go without.

What TF is going on with his teeth? He can obv afford to get them fixed to pre war acceptable levels. He's like an inbred banjo player

Remember when Tories literally applauded doctors for their crucial work during the pandemic? Seems it's only when people ask for their worth that Tories decry them.

So why didn’t you ask lord bethell about minutes of missing phone calls to Randox over ppe contracts. £600m and paperwork missing? Stinks of ToryCorruption ppecontracts

Full solidarity with all junior doctors. I hope they and all other NHS workers get full pay restoration NHS

Did JimBethell ever find that mobile phone? as “health minister he replaced his mobile phone before it could be searched for information relevant to £85m of deals that are subject to a legal challenge”. Needs challenging on this.

And what’s wrong with that?

So, the Ukraine War strategies are being worked on in US/NATO countries? Then it is their war against Russia. But who are US/NATO and what are they fighting for? US-led 'rules-based order' of endless wars and crises?

ThomsonRadio That's so sad to see.

Yet again only one side of the war , poor

Bakhmut = Verdun?

A great from Mark Urban and team. But I'm puzzled that you have chosen to blur the faces of some of the Russian troops. Why is that?

ThomsonRadio Ur news on TV now is pro russian, are u lot on drugs or u living in a fuckin cave

And the 500,000 Scots who said a resounding NO will stand again and say no

'Children' including men with stubble, plus Albanians fleeing wartorn France.

Known racist and ex UKIPer Fixed it for you

They are the only vehicle. This Cope to distance from a party nationalists have continually voted for is hilarious. That October referedum is going to be interesting.

Ex con Aemer Anwar desecrated a war memorial in Eaglesham.

Even by Kirsty Wark’s standards this was an entirely pointless interview. Her million pound contract with the BBC should be cancelled.

A man who can say absolutely nothing all day long.

We don’t know the details but I will not be stopping my monthly contribution because as Anwar says, it is for the independence movement which so desperately want. Insignificant compared to Westminster waste.

It has been though and during their tenure their governance has solely been about it and neglected to ensure that the whole of Scotland was treated the same not just their demographic of the electorate

It isn't. But they think it is.

Why does BBC afford this fraudulent publicity hound the right of comment on Scottish political affairs? Which editor determined that he (as opposed to another solicitor) should be interviewed?

How long before the Brits target Aamer Anwar

Hannah on Newsnight: 'Yeah, I mean, erm, you know, journalists kindov, you know, erm, you know, eeeerm, erm, you know, erm, you know, you know, you know, kindov caught, you know, you know, kindov came, you know, kindov beyond you know, you know...' Strewth! And she won a prize?!

Hannah on Newsnight: 'Yeah, I mean, erm, you know, journalists kindov, you know, erm, you know, eeeerm, erm, you know, erm, you know, you know, you know, kindov caught, you know, you know, kindov came, you know, kindov beyond you know, you know...' Strewth! And she won a prize?!

HRwritesnews Hannah on Newsnight: 'Yeah, I mean, erm, you know, journalists kindov, you know, erm, you know, eeeerm, erm, you know, erm, you know, you know, you know, kindov caught, you know, you know, kindov came, you know, kindov beyond you know, you know...' Strewth! And you won a prize?!

Oh, do keep up your lefty twats! Refugees they are not, killers they are, well some are, but they are NOT with compassion for anyone in the UK. Over 1400 in London alone committed offenses in 2022, from assault to Murder.

H/T MrAngelos8

What about treating the people who live and pay taxes in this country fairly? They can't go off to Pakistan or Morocco. Enter illegally and demand hotel accommodation and free food of their choice. EnverSol is selective with his demands for fairness and compassion.

Thank you. I want to see people treated with compassion, too. Refugees are not our enemy.

Independence is the people. It's not going to go away. The sooner the English establishment, grow up, and accept that, the better. IndependenceIsNormal

Victoria is superior to the Kirsty woman who seemed to revel in snp news today

From a refugee home, I back decent care for asylum seekers. Charities will not win millions with only government attacks. All parties must face censure for a failure on housing and other public services. Claims need faster process. But whither accommodation and other provision?

Well said Aamer!! Yer a braw man. 💕

Totally agree. Independence movement is stronger than ever.

Change uk burnt down its accounts and no one covered it....

Me thinks PSJC is losing touch with reality🤔 The UK is becoming more Right Wing from supporting Racist/Sexist/EveryPhobia Liars to Brexit & Anti Immigrant Little Englanders such that the biggest danger to Scotland is a resurgence of Toryism😢😷

'Families'....

It's GuardianTV.

Who?

EnverSol Me too

He's right, of course.

No shit Sherlock.

Interesting! What was it that prompted you to explore the leadership campaign 9 days after the result was announced?

Of course she did…

Of course it is.

theSNP unchallenged for 15 yrs according to Wark. I seem to remember democratic elections and theSNP winning …repeatedly.

but the thing is...nothing is gonna happen..co more people joining them every day...YES Indyref2

Oh what a shame

It doesn't affect Labour's chances, unless they take those seats from the Conservatives.

Newsnight are in love and will do anything for starmer

They were the only party to get us there….. they better not have screwed us…… there will be a lot of unhappy ppl me included….. ScottishIndependenceASAP NicolaSturgeon 🙏🏼….. what have they done? 😡 theSNP HumzaYousaf Ross_Greer … what options do we now have? greens

He was absolutely awful. Full of Whataboutery quoting BoJo and lockdown parties as some sort of excuse🙄

Let’s see in a few years Time. No question people are looking at the devolved issues and realising if they can’t even get two ferries built how can they truly run an independent country.

Where are his ears?

Exactly! They are using the justice system to bypass the voting process.

I don't usually like installations and sort of mixed object exhibitions but his work immediately draws you in because visually it's coherent. It's not a big miscellany of things.

katelamble They really are ToriesDestroyingOurCountry

🙄🙄🙄Keep telling yourself that, Gord.

Break the law. Get found out. The man is grifter and it's about time he paid. This indictment is a good thing.

BBC has him guilty before the trial! Richard Gere offered 1 million indecent proposal was a Hollywood hero against the real thing stormy danials $130,000 looks proper limp

True...China will not agree with Russian principles, China has raised many ppl out of extreme poverty and hunger. China's standard of living is going up everyday as well as their income. Unlike Russian... not many Chinese gov employees are holding bank accounts or higher…

Another giant of a chancellor 🤣🤣

BenChu_ KirstyWark More Tory nonsense from Newsnight. He created the appalling early 90’s recession.

a rise in inflation from 3 per cent to more than 8 per cent during 1988, which resulted in interest rates doubling to 15 per cent in the space of 18 months, and remaining high in spite of the 1990–1992 recession which saw unemployment rise nearly as high as the level seen before

BenChu_ KirstyWark a rise in inflation from 3 per cent to more than 8 per cent during 1988, which resulted in interest rates doubling to 15 per cent in the space of 18 months, and remaining high in spite of the 1990–1992 recession which saw unemployment rise nearly as high as the level seen before

ChatGPT is largely dumb anyway. It has no knowledge or training post-September 2021 and most of its responses are munged copy-and-paste jobs that 'answer' your question by simply rephrasing it.

BBCJoeInwood An exploding statuette is straight out of Hitman. 'Napoleon Blownaparte' or a rubber duck.

BBCJoeInwood 🚬😹😹

So glad he ‘had a great sense of humour and fun’ while he advocated letting the planet burn.

“kept secret from the public”? Why on earth? Because finding out Lawson had a gsoh would undermine the whole fabric of British society? Or does he mean “not apparent to the public”.

BBCJoeInwood FSB .. no brainer ... same contextual framing as Putins Chechen wars after the apartment blocks got blown. Read Litvinenkos book. Blame Ukraine ... aling with the Russian orthodox church annexation in Kyiv - big push to mobilize Russian populace into hate. Putin. Same old

Bet he laughed when Thatcher brought in Alan Walters. How we all laugh when we recall his wanting to join the ERM and we guffawed when-from his house in France-he headed the campaign to pull us out of the EU. Such a fun guy. Not.

BenChu_ KirstyWark And who gained from and who suffered the consequences of his actions as chancellor?

Can you please explain how the presenter tonight said a 4.5 - 5 % pay rise is a 'real terms increase' newsnight

Yeah, well concentrate on the 1982 budget when Lawson brought in rebasing for capital gains tax which effectively wrote off the tax liabilities of rich people who had loads of assets to offload which would result in no capital gains tax payable. Rich sheltering the rich, as ever.

BenChu_ KirstyWark He really wasn’t he caused hundreds of thousand if not millions to lose their homes after Thatchers right to buy

Great sense of humour. Set up the Global Warming Policy Foundation to misrepresent science and halt action on climate change. Absolutely side splitting. Screw you, BBC Newsnight.

Anti UK, anti humanity scammer Nigel Lawson. The world is a better place without self serving manipulative scamming puppets like this... Sorry if that is offensive Elon

Really Newsnight. Why is the story of the Russian blogger yr top story. He agreed with the war in Ukraine,a supporter of Putin. He said 'we kill every Ukrainian,rob them' etc. Think you've got yr priorities wrong. Who cares who it was

Why both?

CFraserBBC The unbiased BBC should help get this feature movie made:

CFraserBBC Trump and this lady have been fined $1 million for filing frivolous lawsuits. U.S. District Judge Donald M. Middlebrooks accused Trump of a 'pattern of abuse of the courts' which he said 'undermines the rule of law' and 'amounts to obstruction of justice.'

CFraserBBC Looks like Christian found the original motormouth.

CFraserBBC BBC is so biased. I hope people stop paying the tv licence.

CFraserBBC She seems nice.

CFraserBBC She’s facing potential charges herself in the documents case.

CFraserBBC From the lawyer for the man who led the charge to ‘Lock her up’ but found no evidence to do so!!!

Habba: I'm not political, I'm being a lawyer here! Also Habba: Whaddaboud Chuck Schumer and the extreme radical left Democrats. Peak clown show.

Even Trump's lawyer is a very pretty woman!! He seems to have a way with them!

:)

AshaRangappa_ Having stiffed Pecker and not repaid him for the money he spent on McDougall's catch & kill, the charges will certainly include Trump's covering up where the money came from to front Pecker, fraudulently using his own/campaign money via Cohen

Is that the same FBI that denied any knowledge of a certain Lap top & with the EU manipulated content on social media platforms

I think she should concentrate on parking tickets.

AshaRangappa_ It's important to acknowledge that the DA for New York County Alvin Bragg was initially reluctant to pursue a criminal indictment of Donald Trump, given the evidence available in the formative stages of the case. Bragg now believes he can prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt.

“I spoke to him about an hour ago…this is just another day of lies punctuated by cheeseburgers & diet coke for Chumpy Trump” Trump’s lawyer Alina Habba gives an update into how the former f*ck-nut has reacted to the indictment Newsnight |

She has the manners of a scrapyard alsatian. 🙄

She has the manners of a scrapyard alsatian. 🙄

AshaRangappa_ Two of the same events. Making payoffs while he was in the White House. Disgusting. But it shows conspiracy. A pattern. To protect his candidacy. Doesn’t look good.

Typical tRumpBot - 🤡

AshaRangappa_ I can’t watch a AshaRangappa_ interview anymore without checking the floor for hidden guests 😂😂😂

Is she talking to herself in a mirror?

Slag.

Like Hunter's laptop.

For any normal person an indictment would be a life changing event… Trump normalized his behavior long ago. This is what criminals do. That’s the only way they can live without guilt.

CFraserBBC Lanny Davis, a Democrat shill who sucked-up to the Clintons and represents numerous despots and dictators around the world, and Fraser thinks his totally biased anti-Trump testimony is worth listening to.

CFraserBBC Usual leftie garbage from Fraser who understands nothing about the U.S. legal system and how the indictment against Trump has no chance of standing-up in Court.

CFraserBBC cfraserbbc.. the grand jury is made up of a citizens not democrats… stop letting them spread these lies on air! Fucking stop normalising proganda .. the DA did not indict, a jury of citizrns did and it’s ridiculous to say they were all democrats ..

CFraserBBC Can’t wait to see tRumpy locked up

nicholaswatt Not sure what’s worse - the fundamental anachronistic system making people Lords and Sirs etc or the fact that it is, and always has been, about cronyism.

nicholaswatt Newsnight I heard that there will be a baroness Carrie….for services best not questioned. Dame MadNads for services best not questioned. A Dame Stanley, by mistake…..

nicholaswatt But if Johnson is found guilty of knowingly misleading Parliament surely that gives the PM a clear reason to reject the honours list?

The problem is that people will believe their rhetoric! That's the main concern. Some UK citizens are destroying the country due to racism, bigotry, ignorance. 😔

Migration policy expert? She's a left wing whinger.

Gardner 'reveals' nothing - her opinions don't necessarily reflect reality.

migration expert ? yes I believe I can fly

Migration expert? What is she, 20?

info up dates, opportunities, stations and channels, even more

True. A classic deflection from the Tories utter looting and destruction of the country.

Someone talking sense - more please

True.

Okay. But at what point do we say “let’s fix the problem” without it being considered a shady tactic for votes?

“a migration policy expert” FFS who pays her wages and is it a 52 week a year job…

pjb2go I’m sorry but I can’t take anything the BBC does seriously 😳 by their own creation I now doubt and question everyone and everything they put out there, such a shame for a once respected news provider

Too much wisdom,and spot on.Obviously can also be applied to other 'Agendas'!😉

What the hell is migration policy expert just put it the the UK electorate..

Yes digital ID’s? ‘It can solve all the ongoing problems eh? WeCU 👀

ColinYeo1 I am concerned this Rwanda policy is not been put on the table as is .. there is a ' Trade with Rwanda for every Refugee we send .. we will receive Refugees from the Tented Camps there .. 30 000 people been there for decades ? RwandaMigrationExchange IllegalMigrationBill

ColinYeo1 And, sadly, people will fall for it.

ZoeJardiniere What we need are some whistleblowers 🤞🤞🤞

That's what Labour did with the Iraq war which killed millions.

ZoeJardiniere Absolutely brilliant, a rising star again eloquently demolishing the Grim Fairy Tale that is the prevailing narrative. It won’t be long before we find she is antisemitic,or supports the IRA, or nicked a mars bar when she was 12, or whatever else they can concoct to discredit her.

It might work unfortunately. When people already voted for Brexit …. It tells you all . The state of this country …hijacked by an handfuls of ultra libertarian psychopaths

And this is what the Conservatives are doing with the NHS before saying privatisation is the only way out. Hideous

The only crisis is caused by woke lefties like her.

They've had 13 years to offer a solution.

The current government knows it can’t defend its own record on the economy, on NHS, on education, on transport, on crime… so it reaches for the only thing left - xenophobia and fear of foreigners.

She is correct. The tories are in collaboration with the traffickers.

mrjamesob Someone saying what I've been saying for yonks. Hopefully all the opposition parties can drum it into the electorate at the next election what the Tory con is doing.

And she's right.

aah4 mrjamesob would agree.

Exactly GovernemntByClickbait PerformativeCruelty

simongalcock ZoeJardiniere Wondering who has labelled Zoe an 'Immigration Expert'? Is it a self declared position? Was it the 'Immigration Experts Group'? - is she more of an 'Expert' than the Experts used by the Gov?😳

mariachetcuti1 She’s not wrong.

mrjamesob '...Government is pursuing its far-right fascist migrant policy' there. Fixed the BBC appeasement-speak...

mrjamesob 100% this. It’s using the misery of desperate people for their own political gain. Peoples lives mean nothing to these ToryLiars RefugeeBanBill RascistTories RefugeesWelcome torychaos

MimiJ9 But who would believe them?

Fearless lede, nice. But why is Kirsty Wark doing her best to lead the framing away from what Zoe is saying? And why does Wark have such a pained expression as Zoe drops the truth bombs? One can almost see Wark imagining the editorial bollocking she's headed for.

Anyone can see what's going on. It's an old trick if you read history. All politicians do it.

steviweavi she is absolutely right..

mrjamesob I'm just surprised that the bbc are allowed to post this these days

She is so good at explaining this.

Well that is going to backfire big style!

Goodness ,not a clue !!

they are pursuing migration policy because majority of british people want them gone from here BUT that didnt suit the bbc narrative did it

40k + illegals arriving with no documentation, vast majority single fighting age males, costing us billions and posing safety risk to our kids, is not a crisis?

Zoe is 13 and lives at home with mum and dad...

'migration policy expert' haha-meaningless title.Issue would be solved by having ID cards in the UK-the economic migrants leave France cos they can work undercover and tax-free in UK but can't in France

Reveals? Biased language. Defund.

EXACTLY! ... I am an Asylum seeker, I have BA, MA, and I am studying for another BA Hons. And I have been held for 7 months without any reply! I am not allowed to work yet, or have a bank account! Allow me to work, and I would happily pay taxes for the country that saved my life!

Bingo! It's a manufactured crisis. It's red meat to the Tory base. The real solution(housing the dinghy arrivals on barges offshore & sending them back)can be done without any fanfare and noiselessly. But how would they be able to miss out on such a good opportunity to get votes?

What is that person's claim to expertise? Why was s/he selected to contribute to Newsnight?

Britain has islands, why are they being sent there to wait for their refugee or asylum application to be processed.

They’ll have had 14 -15 years by then though

Toriesout for good please

The BBC are so blind to the views of the public 😡 DefundBBC

WarwickHunt4 What is that solution? Chilling stuff.

The slight of hand here is the fact there exists no model of a 'working solution' other than offshoring the process as Australia does. No other approach does anything to deter opportunists, or reduce the numbers of applicants -her 'solution' to the problem is no solution at all.

They also control the national conversation. Whatever the tories do/focus on becomes not just news, but the chief talking points of progs like politics live, so instead of issues like the climate crisis we have discussions led by the tory agenda - trans debate & people on boats

Just like Labour with these strikes..make as many problems for the country as they can just to blame the Government before the election.

💯‼️

mikegalsworthy It’s a tribute to Conservative policy that a debate is even required. Imagine if all applications were processed within one month, and people allowed to work and contribute to society, or removed if the application is unsuccessful. Who would be our enemy then?

Oh, what a surprise, another left wing, Pro immigration 'expert' from a middle/upper class background has her say on the BBC.

I would have Tim Davie will have someone sacked at Newsnight for daring to tweet this. I'm sure we'll get 20 tweets to the contrary for balance.

That’s all the Tories have done for the last 40+ years

'Migration policy expert' lol.

The left wing bleeding heart Labour Party has been promoting unfettered immigration for years in order to cause a crisis. Whether Labour or Tory the established political order is the real enemy. Save The Nation. Stop All Immigration!

They’re doing it because Theresa May signed the U.K. up to the UN migration compact.

Expert? Who are you to judge that? Pathetic bunch of lightweights all of you.

hollylol4 I guess we knew this already but it is absolutely appalling. This Government has no humanity.

What a clown 🤡

ZoeJardiniere 👏🏼

Britain needs a war to wake up

Lookinupatstars Zoe is correct 👇

Stop the boats simple

She's absolutely correct. You can see the BBC presenter squirming.

How do you become a migration policy expert?

NEON_UK 💯

Why do the BBC & SKY keep giving this extremist a platform.

Excellent analysis.

‘Expert’

The idea that Government's wish to conflate this for political gain is to ignore the fact that it creates a vacuum for much more authoritarian political groups to enter. Labour under Starmer not suggesting anything new & will be struggling with this issue

Accurate analysis. BBCBreaking impartialmyarse

Couldn’t agree less. Too late for anymore Ill thought, stupid plans they hope will fly with the public. The publics gone. The Tories are gone, almost 100% on this issue alone. It’s media/political rolling news space filler, the populace will react at the GE.

She’s 100% correct ToryCriminalsUnfitToGovern

piotralexb Pity your interviewer took up the tory position for them. Are you not ashamed that you have become government lackies?

DanielF4rmer It’s worse than that. The classic populist tactic is 1) create fear by accusing a target group of non-existent crimes and threats, 2) arrest/intimidate/ harass/torture/kill the target group, 3) claim that you have protected the country. Where have we seen this tactic before?

'migration policy expert'😂😂😂

Where do you dig these people up. There is a crisis; 42,000+ individuals that paid criminal gangs to move them across the EU to land in the UK undocumented in 2022, on track to grow in 2023, where they abuse the asylum system & taxpayer; this is clearly a crisis that must end.

Another Distraction bt the Tory Spin Doctors. Illegal immigrants, Terrorist warnings wait for it it's coming

In a nutshell.

And managed to shut Wark up. She'll be getting a visit from the Robbie Gibb goon squad.

Listening to Jenrick yesterday, using ‘migrant’ when he denigrates asylum seekers and refugees but refugee when Conservative MPs object to housing them in their constituencies. The government know the difference between a migrant and a refugee, it’s all very deliberate…

Has this silly 🐄 missed the boats arriving daily? Govt are not “creating” the theatre but the left consistently prevents them solving the problem.

Well said, they are using a 'Greek tragedy' theatre theme to keep everyone thinking that migrant boats are a problem. In political marketing terms, xenophobia has always sold very well to most of the British public or can be populised. It's a politicised slow burner voter fuel.

PGroenhuysen She's spot on

They keep offering a solution. Noone allows those solutions to be applied. The actual important thing is what will Labour do on Day One? Long term plans are nice but they will inherit everything. What will they do with it?

Federated global Scottish unity or its just zombie polarising politics wasting ClimateReality time HumzaYousaf BBCWorld BBCNews BBCScotlandNews BBCScotNine TheScotsman

I hope labourpress is listening. We want freedom of movement restored. Democracy doesn’t stop referendums, it enables them. RejoinTheEU BrexitDisaster

Exactly

My minds made up after seeing big changes in the locals in my area after we kicked Lib/Lab/Con/Green and went independent. I suggest every town does the same and if you don't have an independent representing your town then make one and register it.

Google when did the UK leave the EU. You get Jan 31st 2020. Less than 2 months later crippling economic ruining lockdowns when we shut down on 23rd March 2020. So we've been officially out of the EU for 2 months before the totally pointless destruction of the economy.…

You must be in the EU to survive but must be out of the UK to thrive?

Correct. Sadly Kirsty did not take up this argument. It is the BBC way.

Rwanda is a deliberate theatre of cruelty designed as a dog whistle with the GE in mind. It will only help the Tories.

Ianblackford_MP Brexit is an economic and political catastrophe and can never work. It consigns Britain (not NI) to be the GDR of the 21st century. It’s insanity. By all means let England isolate itself under Labour, but Scotland didn’t vote for this in 2014 YouYesYet ScottishIndependence 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇪🇺

Newsnight It’s a distraction tactic by 10DowningStreet PoliticsLive from the general mess U.K. is in and also net migration of 504k last yr and expected to run at 245k but 👀 over there, refugees 😱

I'm moving to Scotland,

The SNP, who I have supported for over 20 years, are going to get annihilated at the next election. Isla killed Alba and Sturgon let him do it.

The government don’t process them our bias civil servants do, or should I say should do! But hard to do that working from home!

She is brilliant

Ianblackford_MP '..the whole point is that Brexit doesn’t work' .. and cannot work. Nor can it ever be made to work, Starmer.

Well said Zoe !

I actually think he made a good case .. a village of 1300 with a placement facility for 1700 single males + staff is beyond reasonable.. that it is being imposed not negotiated with the community is utterly unacceptable.. and it’s unreasonable for the asylum seekers as well !

Ianblackford_MP he's not wrong

I think the SNP have just just taken their suicide pill & people thought the Krankie woman was bad !

Brexit doesn't work, says man dedicated to an even wrenching exit for Scotland.

If they aren’t going to process them what are they going to do? Has the government confirmed it will no longer process asylum claims? This is despicable.

It’s not though is it. The EU don’t want them, with good reason.

She is speaking the simple truth

Are you feeling OK, ?

Must be quite an interesting time around the cabinet table when everyone basically stops trying to be functional

she's not wrong

She is 💯%correct. They create the problems and then give us solutions similar to Pandemic

All Tories are racist gammon twats. Simple really

100% agreed ZoeJardiniere An entirely government fabricated crisis, created for the purpose of ‘othering’ and sowing fear and hate. To do so on the back of some of the most vulnerable individuals is utterly vile ToryLies

This is so obvious, create hysteria around immigration and then use that as an election tool, they can’t use their record on anything, so fear mongering and attack those who can’t defend it is

As much as I prefer Labour over the SNP, that logic doesn't make sense. Of the 6 Scottish seats the the Tories hold, Labour were behind the SNP in all of them in 2019. There's a good chance of Labour taking seats off the SNP, but little chance of taking them off Scottish Tories.

He's wrong. Yes Brexit doesn't work. But in truth, never felt comfortable as part of a European parliament and the various institutions. We simply wanted to be part of the common market. And we still can be. That was the 52:48 Brexit we should have always had.

Comical Ian Murray

I feel sorry for Ian Blackford and Kate Forbes...

He’s right tho . Brexit is an abject failure

Brilliant politics - telling SNP voters that Labour need their Scottish votes for power in England.

BBC non news newsnight DefundTheBBC

Good luck with that Mr Blackford.....Newsnight

vicderbyshire

All Macron has to do is have a vote. If his pride is in the way then he's no better than our new UK variant fascists. Vive la revolution.

IStandWithCorbyn

vicderbyshire I like Victoria Derbyshire but watch Lewis Goodall’s report from the streets of Paris and you’ll see that he has a much better grasp of the situation

You keep banging on that he didn't apologise but all he kept doing was apologising and then you moved the goalposts!

BBC Newsnight ... they've got some front to attempt this editorial. They've had a dog in this fight all along, as enthusiastic as that of Panorama. They've both long disappeared into the sunset as far as my TV politics/current affairs watching goes.

He's a selfish little twat who's only ever cared about his own wallet and getting pictured at protests. Not a single piece of legislation with his name on it in 40 fucking years. A passenger, a phoney and a parasite. Good riddance, Tory enabler.

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It was sad to see politically compromised Newsnight producers have the presenter constantly making statements within questions, effectively implying that the small group within the NEC is acting on a mandate of the electorate. This is really desperate stuff. Of course, the right…

MarkUrban01 This is simple Starmsky knows Jeremy is more popular, charismatic, likeable spoke to thousands of people at time including Glastonbury I doubt his constituents will abandon him after 40 years. What is the difference between Labour and Tories now?

'bon soir, monsieur'. épouvantable. really tinny coverage by monoglot studio presenter out of her depth. come on Newsnight! BBCNews has expert reporters in, er, France. who speak French. who can engage with the substance. Victoria in Paris? non merci. vicderbyshire

Thank you BarryGardiner for articulating what so many of us feel.

Juuuust gonna leave this hear. From 2009:

I had *SIR* (Knight of the Wealthy/Establishment/Realm) Starmer down as a shyster soon as he got out the car at a 2019 door knocking. I read him in seconds. When I saw the m£dia installing him as LOTO I left. I've been repeatedly vindicated. StarmerOut BDS CorbynWasRight

Corbyn is spot on

MarkUrban01 Mark, can you ensure you correct the record when you state corbyn has never apologised?

Jeremy Corbyn has, on record, including in parliament, apologised several times. The fact that the BBC tells lies on its flagship news program is shocking. Here's a quote from YOUR OWN ARTICLE. In no other circumstances in my 46 years have I seen the BBC lie like this

Hi, Mark. I could lie and spread misinformation for a living, can I have your job please?

He should know the £600,000 answer

But its not just islington north its everywhere its bolox the lunatics are running the asylum

Really! You want to not apologise to people who you have grouped together, with what they consider is offensive speech. He needs to consider the fact that his mate who made ludicrous figures in 2017 on air was a Liability in that election. Opportunity missed through bad choices.

That last second...the face of a person sat in front of one of the machines gears in operation knowing full well what's happening to British politics. Knowing it might work again, even if his party win. Decent labour MPs should leave. Its sunk.

Jeremy is the best real leader he loves this country..

Baz the 500k Chinese state asset

Yes he is wrong Jeremy should start his own party I will vote for him.

It comes to something when the press has to lie to protect…well, liars.

And Selfservatives Tories will be loving this

alanmaddison20 You’ve got a bloody nerve. newsnight corbyn

No self respecting leftist can vote for Labour. Corbyn apologised many times, it was never enough & it was never going to be enough. What he said after the EHRC report was 100% correct & confirmed in the Starmer commissioned Forde report Newsnight

There is no debate anymore you fall in line with Stamer or your out.

Disappointing from you Barry.

This is dictatorship in a political party… the dictator is heavily influenced by the Israeli lobby. Mr jeremycorbyn must be allowed to contest from this constituency if it has any values.

Good man who's name has been attempted to smear just so labour can get votes for bigots, racists and Zionists,as an Irish nationalist I should be glad the UK is slipping into a fascist state..but there's lots of good people in the UK that don't deserve this ,.Jeremy being one

'Is it not the case that, if he stood as a candidate, the media would still pursue Corbyn with the lie that he refused to apologise, as I'm doing now'. Seemingly so.

Starmer has ridden roughshod over core values of justice, fairness, due process & opposing double-standards with his authoritarian stitch-up. Sir Keir has breached EHRC Report central recommendation that leaders MUST NOT interfere in these processes. A disgrace.

Labour NEC must get rid of the cancer in its body The Jewish Labour Party who continue to destabilize the party with its blackmail of antisemitic false calls 3 election opportunities smoked out with their determination to control the LP Its time they were disaffiliated.

BarryGardiner is right re JC. JC should stand as an independent though & should think seriously about starting his own left wing party. Labour cannot do things properly. Starmer has changed his promises from being elected leader. How can we trust a bully? That is what he is!

OK Barry. Is 'social democratic' the same as 'Democratic Socialist'? I don't think it is.

no not voting for Mandy and Blairs stich up of workers while they sit in their ivory towers delegating orders from above, not happening last time that charlatan did it he sent thousands of my generation off to be cannon fodder over a lie they manufactured for corporate interests.

vicderbyshire In fairness, she may not have appreciated the full impact of what she'd said, but then qualified it anyway by saying there's a difference between smashing up shops and burning rubbish, and that her main point (which she also started with) was that she could understand the anger.

Starmer has ridden roughshod over core values of justice, fairness, due process & opposing double-standards with his authoritarian stitch-up. Sir Keir has breached EHRC Report central recommendation that leaders MUST NOT interfere in these processes. It shows a lack of respect

vicderbyshire 1950sladies waspi Backto60 & many more campaign groups protested several times in London & parts of the UK regarding an unprecedented 6year State Pension Age Rise rise to 66, with limited MSM coverage! We don’t burn buildings, we just want JUSTICE! MSM 🔊 hear our voice!

He has every right to feel disdain, but as always is response was measured and respectful, the exact opposite of how he has been treated. I am appalled by what can only be described as bullying of him. bullying is NEVER acceptable from anyone.

Beijing Barry

The uk is a travesty of democracy always has been always will be . The peaceful leader is gone has been for a few years , now it’s his ideas of fairness that are being erased from England.I will be glad when we wash our hand of you lot

The NEC didn't care about allowing militant back into the party under Corbyn. The country didn't have an effective Labour party for 4 years. The Labour party is not abt a small group of Londoners who are power crazed, it is the party of the people.

Establishment stooge MarkUrban01 doing his best to hold his line at all times ItWasAScam

vicderbyshire

So we now know Beijing’s view….

vicderbyshire What sort of dumb question was that?

BBC does its Jesus hauled in front of the Romans. I could listen to Jeremy all day on the inequalities deliberately legalised in current society Try Portsmouth:. Levelling Up Mordaunt v Morgan

vicderbyshire If I could smash up a shop, it would probably be Currys.

jeremycorbyn You don’t support the Leader so why do you want to stay in the Party apart from spending 40 years in a safe seat?

Barry Gardiner making really good points about this action by Starmer being undemocratic and not following due process. One allegation against Jeremy Corbyn was that the leadership were wrongly involving themselves in disciplinary cases. What Starmer is doing is far worse.

Has Barry Gardiner ever explained the dodgy Chinese money he accepted?

Trouble is it is about you! Fed up hearing about you. Tory enabler as far as I’m concerned

Jeremy who?

Labour shadow Gill's line on University Hospitals Birmingham reassures few. Her party In government fuelled NHS debts with private finance initiative hospitals. Now tight spending vows threaten more decline. Starmer's ban on his predecessor's candidacy merits electoral defeat

Corbyn doesn’t support the Leader of the Labour Party so why would he want him as a Labour MP? He’s had a safe seat for 40 years and voted against the Party during those years !!!

Jeremy who?

Mark Urban lied twice on the programme tonight: the first time when he explicitly said jeremycorbyn didn't apologise for antisemitism. He did, many times. What he didn't apologise for is for saying that the extent was overstated. Then he did it a second time with 1/2

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Average voter 👇🏻

Disgusting behaviour Labour have become Tory enablers !

vicderbyshire Glad the team are okay

vicderbyshire Is there a country in the world that are happy with their government . I would suggest only the ones with their heads in the sand .

vicderbyshire Glad she's OK. Takes me back to the poll tax protests!

Sir Robert Francis KC, who led the public inquiry into Mid-Staffs NHS Foundation Trust, tells Newsnight: “Having read Professor Bewick’s interim report, it shows clear cause for concern about the culture at this Trust.

vicderbyshire Why did they cap the hours judge sit in the first. Shameful.

vicderbyshire 'We invited the Govt to speak to us this evening but they didn't respond' We did however broadcast a statement from them (as usual) telling us that things are on the up. A smack in the faces of all victims - the BBC should refuse to read out Govt propaganda.

vicderbyshire The party of 'law and order'..... Basically they don't give a 💩!

vicderbyshire You may need reminding that Buckland is part of the Conservative Party...

The idea that ultra right-wing religious groups in Israel should be given a 'right of reply' by vicderbyshire is obnoxious! As Ofer Cassif said they're fascists! Israel's democracy is founded on independence of Judiciary that I STRONGLY support! Likud has pandered to fascists!🤬

vicderbyshire And who is the Tory MP who has been given bail for the 4th time till May?

He'd be booted out of UKLabour for saying that so where does that leave the UK if even our opposition are fascists-in-waiting

Fully fledged? As opposed to only slightly fascist

vicderbyshire Is this Buckland of the we will break international law in a limited and specific way? Who cares what he says

vicderbyshire Wonder who's been under funding it?

They'll be calling him an anti-semite...

vicderbyshire Of course it’s pathetic I mean promising to double the number of convictions is 1% to 2% …damn numbers hey…I guess in their eyes 99% of rape victims are liars

Ms Victoria.... !!!!!! Why DID YOU CUT OFF THIS AMAZINGLY ARTICULATE MAN ON THE CRISIS IN ISRAEL. BAD, BAD Editorial decision. Shame!

Not a hope. Humza 'Yuseless' as he has been dubbed in Scotland is even more inept, if that was even possible, than Sturgeon & her cronies. This man has a record of incompetence; every position he has been given in Govt has ended up with him being removed for failure. Add to 1/2

Nothing about ability, just race and religion, Why?

BBCPolitics Does this woman not want to integrate into the uk. Why the restricting headscarf after all these years.

5Pillarsuk Turning in their graves perhaps.

Ermm who wants tell him

great for the old folk he's made it to FM. Now to show to everyone he's not as crap as he's been for the last 8 years...

A lot of people seem to think we don’t have a queen anymore

Colonisers dreams come true.

BBCPolitics Queens dead mate

5Pillarsuk Perhaps if it was with the King, sure.

How wonderful.

Continuing BAU with fossil fuel exploration is a radical departure from common sense.

It's not her job to make the law but work with the law. Don't pay her!. Who is running this country?, certainly not the Tories who cower to anyone choosing to revolt!.

If these 'barristers' refuse to uphold the law then they should not be paid!.

Well it is, they should be barred from practicing.

Society of conservative lawyers 🤦‍♂️

Pretty sure it’s up to them who they choose to represent? I’m definitely sure some of the money grabbing lawyers will happily take their place. Problem solved.

I hope she doesn't use any produced from fossil fuels, including electricity generated in gas-fired power stations as that would be hypocritical. So no use of electric cars or underground trains. Did you ask how she gets around.

Unreal 😂

He can have his 'law' but he must accept that in defending fossil fuel use he is complicit in the death and displacing of millions of people... Don't know what comfort his 'law' will be after that... Get some perspective for the love of god 🤯

So she wouldn’t represent as Barrister a known murderer who could potentially kill again

The Law is the Law!

‘We can’t just pick and choose’ tory lawyer says. Supporting a party who wants to pick and choose what parts of the ECHR they want. 🤦🏼‍♂️

if you don't like someone, you can refuse to work for them. Legal profession is not Civil Service. ' Not really Faisal' Eh?

You need to be on the Crown Prosecution Service list of lawyers to be able to prosecute cases, none of those signed is on that list so it's a complete non-issue. BBC again have not done their homework or are deliberately promoting culture war propaganda on behalf of the Tories.

Fine, no more State contracts for them so Let them eek out a living on their own

I think he has ignored an important fact,they dont have to take a case if they believe they are defending something the feel is wrong ,balanced reporting they have real concerns

Disgraceful get them removed

Left wing lawyers bad. Right wing lawyers good? Apparently.

“Society of Conservative Lawyers”, eh? I don’t think I need to hear any more. Next?

So her Chambers are now unheated, and they all wear coats indoors?

If they’re CPS lawyers then they will do as they are fucking told.

If we run down fossil fuels, more people will die. Why do so many of the middle class blindly trust our leaders, scientists, civil servants when they repeatedly demonstrate incompetence and mendacity? Has Covid taught them nothing? Are they victims of university indoctrination?

He's had a hard day's shilling!

I muted the cockwombles, was it too difficult two informed coherent commentators? The presenter was also poorly briefed. Your editorial standards have been awful for a while now, what's going on?

Rounding up Jews in Nazi Germany was legal. The law is not something you can hide behind.

Presumably burning fossil fuels is an even worse crime. Which makes you wonder if she's flown anywhere or ridden in a car or kept her house warm ordered a delivery or any of the myriad of things that require fossil fuels.

So he represents a political body. Yeah we’re not really interested in him.

He was a thundercunt

Perhaps having departed from the rule of law they should resign

How is she even still allowed to practise the law in this country ? Astonishing..

another one who dos not understand the basis of being a barrister

Richard Sharp having the evening off?

“Supporting the extraction of fossil fuels… is being complicit in committing criminal acts” It really isn't.

Banking used to be boring. When did it become risky?

'Dodgy bloke from crappy 2010 coalition government gives unneeded advice'.

vicderbyshire Not one of the Front Bench of Labour have a clue, no experience and no numeracy. Shockingly unelectable.

Former tweet from this guy “Except he isn't guilty, has no legal grounds. He literally ran for DA saying he would get Trump arrested. Disgraceful”

Good thing is former …..CIA, FBI, etc web sites have been comprised by hackers in the past and hackers continue to test every connection to to cyber land. Robust firewalls and yes may a burner ap device to partake with Ap’s

Big fat lie

ThomsonRadio Don’t forget to mention the plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64 WITHOUT PARLIAMENTRY APPRVAL. Vital bit if I donation missing from your tweet

ThomsonRadio Meanwhile in the UK...

ThomsonRadio The WEF politicians have stolen virtually everything else for GreatReset, now they are coming for your pensions and social security. Newsnight NWO

ThomsonRadio 1 million is 1.5% of the 67 million population. A tiny minority. But very loud, and seemingly undemocratic

vicderbyshire Poor woman can’t even read her prepared script properly Just more Labour Sound Bites & Slogans 😴

ThomsonRadio I think you a marvellous addition to NN I always now watch when you present Looking forward to next season, When you also chair Question Time Fingers crossed you'd be interested And I might start viewing that again also

vicderbyshire We're allowed to invest in ourselves, it's not a crime.

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vicderbyshire When VickyD said twice 'that money's already been allocated' it was ignored by LabourSJ. Cringing as she came on specifically to talk about it. Different Political Party, same answers format.

vicderbyshire Sarah Jones struggling here with the funding numbers; reminds me of poor old Natelie Bennet. Lets hope they sort them out well before the election as Labour - however confused - have got to be our best hope. newsnight

ThomsonRadio Boris is a liar.

ThomsonRadio Brexit

Be ultimate karma for a British Hindu (Sunak) and a British Muslim (Yousaf) to partition the UK

BBCPolitics At this time, my Father's funeral consisted of myself, my Mother, Sister & Brother Forced to separate on opposite sides of the Crematorium Unable to even hug & console our own Mum, in which we had to leave her to go home & grieve all alone! We followed the BorisJohnson Rules!

libdemdaisy Ms Cooper - you don’t speak on behalf of the British people when you accuse Boris Johnson of treating the people with contempt. I am one of the people. Boris Johnson did not treat me with contempt.

That Tory apologist made a right tit of himself

They have Derbyshire running it, one of the most biased leftists on the BBC.

BBCPolitics Covid was and can still be a terrible virus. However some people can be worse than the virus

True leaders hold themselves to higher standards. Instead of seeking to enjoy a relaxation of the rules due to his office, he, and the No.10 occupants, should have been, and also clearly seen to be, abiding by the rules as stringently, if not more, than the British public.

Its about setting an example, as a county councillor I read and understood every rule so I could inform others and hold myself to the letter and spirit of them. For their author to say this, shows either supreme arrogance or supreme ignorance and lacks all credibility

Perhaps Greenhalgh can close the door behind them when he and Johnson go.

This man is not fit for any office and certainly not suitable to be interviewed on the BBC. He us defending the indefensible. Chumocracy in action again.

BBCPolitics Another “balanced” debate 4v1

More bullshit from the peer whose opinion is if no relevance. Get back to brown nosing Johnson. You will regret it when he’s found guilty.

BBCPolitics Bunter has his own Bunter.

Great performance from Daisy with knockout blow at end of programme - Lord Greenhalgh knew he was beaten trying to defend a liar and had no reply 👏

BBCPolitics It just shows how little he understood/remembered not just the rules he was telling everyone else to follow but more importantly the reasons for the rules. Not just for him of course but for those around him all of whom knew and many of whom are still there.

If it was good enough for Starmer in Durham..

BBCPolitics Surely not a serious debate. What have we come to?!

Does it occur to the Newsnight team that getting the opinion of someone who ISN'T indebted to Johnson would give the debate some seriousness?

They really do think rules and laws do not apply to them. It's astonishing and sickening in equal measure 🤮

vicderbyshire Good lord ! These people defending the indefensible.

What I find particularly obnoxious about the events of 22 March are the nauseating remarks made by Jacob_Rees_Mogg about the Privileges Committee & its members. So many people lost loved ones during Covid & Mogg slurs the integrity of the Committee! Mogg should be sanctioned!🤬

Including the son of a Covid victim is biased reporting. The ex PM brought in lockdown & vaccines so definitely took the virus seriously. It is whether or not he & civil servants broke the rules he set which is an entirely different matter. It is biased to invite the bereaved.

I thought Sir Bernard Jenkin was brilliant in his forensic interrogation of Johnson, who just can't cope with detail! Under other circumstances, this would be trivial.. BUT because so many OTHER people followed the rules & didn't spend time with dying relatives, it's WRECKLESS🤬

My reading of the day listening to the evidence was that Boris was chotic & lazy in getting advice. He relied only on close political advisers & not so much on civil servants. CLEARLY, BJ misled Parliament but I feel it was more through 'wreckless arrogance' than genuine intent!

Are there any Lords that aren't Tories? Get them in the bin.

vicderbyshire Peer, who was enobled by Johnson, backs Johnson. In other news, the Pope is a Catholic.

vicderbyshire Forgets to mention he testified for 4 hours with backing from a £250,000 lawyer paid for by the taxpayer. And withheld evidence for 9 months until the day before the hearing.

vicderbyshire Wheel out Peter Bone, Rees mogg now Peter griffin 🤦‍♀️ ffs

vicderbyshire What happens when there’s a next / worse pandemic? Will people take government guidance or stick to rules which seem open for interpretation… Newsnight

vicderbyshire Boris Johnson was like a pull string doll from the 70s four voice commands and it's arms wave.

vicderbyshire Big head Boris attending an internal workplace hearing surrounded by four elite lawyers for back up. Huffed and puffed not so effective without Tory cheerleaders behind him.

Wonderful section. Don’t know how Lobby Akinnola managed to stay so calm and focused while the conservative rep. tried to simultaneously empathise and bat him away. Very powerful in his and the other 3 participants understated approach and manner.

vicderbyshire Johnson believed his management of COVID in No 10 was compliant with rules & guidance whilst the evidence is completely adverse His decisions to allow events was negligent as the precautions he took He took NO professional advice Relying foolishly on amateurs who had no knowledge

vicderbyshire Please keep sticking up for Johnson & similar complacent Tories on TV team_greenhalgh - you’re just the sort of compellingly repellent associate that lays bare how little you shameless lot care about truth, straight-speaking & real peoples values. TVchalkstripeporkpiemerchant

vicderbyshire He was absolutely destroyed!

Well said libdemdaisy

libdemdaisy Daisy Cooper was superb tonight in cutting bloviating Boris Johnson's super-fan and Tory minister, Stephen Greenhalgh, down to size. She turned him into a red-faced spluttering wreck as he attempted to justify Johnson's behaviour. He just looked callous and ridiculous.

The torys are absolute vile scum bags aren't they

vicderbyshire Mate he made Prince Andrew look normal

libdemdaisy Excellent performance by Daisy Cooper, whose effectiveness was further amplified by the ridiculousness of Lord Greenhalgh.

vicderbyshire

vicderbyshire So from now on anyone can say they inadvertently did something. Should be fun in the courts from now on 😂

DPB59 Steve Bannons non blinking half brother

vicderbyshire Johnson is just a lying, cheating, narcissistic conman.

Greenhalgh kebabed.

vicderbyshire 🤔🙄😲🤪😂😂😂😂

vicderbyshire

I would give more than a penny to hear what was running through Greenhalgh's head at the 0:55 mark.

vicderbyshire And who made him a peer ? And for what ?

vicderbyshire

Train wreck with LordGreenhalgh on that BorisJohnson as the executive running the country was not bound by the same rules as everyone else.

vicderbyshire Our thoughts are with his shirt buttons at this difficult time

vicderbyshire State of this fella, fucking hell.

vicderbyshire

Selling his soul for lying charlatan Boris Johnson. Couldn’t even sympathise with the guy next to him who’d lost his father. Vile.

Ronnie: Well, it's goodnight from me. Ronnie: And it's goodnight from him. See: The Two Ronnies.

Is a friend of Johnson, who worked with him in the London mayor office and whom Johnson personally made a life peer truly the most objective and suitable commentator on proceedings today and the wider context?

vicderbyshire He was shocking. Speaks volumes that this was the person who was prepared to try and defend the indefensible

vicderbyshire During Johnson's review he suggests there is confusion between the guidance & the rules which is his after the events reflection His actions during the events show a clear indifference to being subject to guidance & the rules If they were works events all were badly prepared

Someone’s no stranger to the subsidised canteen

A tub of margarine would have been more interesting than that ‘Lord’. Did he utter one coherent sentence?

vicderbyshire How complete out of touch he was - somehow Johnson shouldn’t have to follow the rules he established because he was PM. Grotesque exceptionalism that completely misses the incredible sacrifices made by so many, especially those treating dying Covid patients.

vicderbyshire team_greenhalgh defending Boris by saying he was so important as to be above everyone in this country who were saving lives or not saying goodbye to loved ones.This interview has tipped me over the edge.Worst interview ever! Tory exceptionalism. They just dont get it.

vicderbyshire Nick Griffin not looking good

vicderbyshire Lobby Akinola everything you said is correct. Dismal excuse of a man is Lord Greenhalgh.

Depressing. Worrying. Exhausting.

Because to admit that the world is changing is not the narrative may be as at the possibility and 30,000 member ship loss would it be called a red flag maybe

serf charles

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Lockdowns, rainbow cars, Rape gangs, rising crime. That's what people feel let down by. Again the elite getting it almost exactly wrong

Because they took the knee for blm

An issue here is that policing by consent is a reciprocal relationship between the police & the public, that means if the police are doing their part then the public should as well. It's not just the police that are failing, the communities are failing themselves as well.

faisalislam Last week the Fed gave US banks a $300 billion ‘loan’. What’s that? Don’t worry just keep your little mind focused on ‘the cake’

Liquidate The Met and start again.

Absolutely outrageous reporting . Look at GMP they’re as bad which says one thing, it’s the institution

faisalislam Mr. El-Erian, I have a very simple question; why doesn't the American Central Bank with Mr Powell hold on and NOT raising the interest rate by the huge ranges they are planning and just add a very small increase gradually to minimize fears in the whole money markets investments.

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elerianm faisalislam Why even have limit of “insured” deposits? If I entrust a bank with all my savings, why would they need to cap the amt I can expect back, especially when I’m paying monthly fees? What are they doing with the $ above $250k?

Frances_Coppola It's about an inverted yield curve not a low interest rate paradigm

Frances_Coppola Thought we had all this fixed? What happened?

faisalislam To your credit I thought that was an excellent report and discussion on the subject.

Frances_Coppola Good work Frances. Sound analysis 👌

BenChu_

Frances_Coppola You are just as eloquent on live TV as in your tweets! We need you on TV to explain financial plumbing and balance out all the corporate mouthpieces and people talking their books

Frances_Coppola She knows what fixes it

Frances_Coppola Can't wait to see the bonuses the top people get this year while their banks are going down the gurgle.

faisalislam Every time regulations are relaxed we get banks taking risks with there solvency. The public have no faith in the banking system since 2008. So we get run on the banks when even a hint of a problem is communicated. Put regulations back. Separate retail and investment funds again.

Frances_Coppola Pricing of energy also needs to change. Why is Green energy charged at the Gas rate?

Well said Onay from Unison 👏

Frances_Coppola 'needs to be revisited' they had 15 years to implement measures and they have clearly, done sweet FA.

Frances_Coppola 45 years of the BBC pushing the agenda of free fall, free market economies, and now they have a social conscience? I don't believe it.. The clowns that run the BBC only want to profit from your misery at any cost..

Well done Unison Members will decide

Frances_Coppola Oh, Frances is a financial analyst, is she? Doesn't know her arse from her elbow.

Frances_Coppola I think they said this the last time ……

Why's she asking why? Is she a govt rep?

Would you take the new NHS wage rate offered by the govt Kirsty? might have to tighten your belt a little I can't stand media people earnings not disclosed questioning public sector union reps about wages

They can find billions for war & their own pockets & salaries Conservatives HouseofCommons , I don't see that influencing the current inflation , but not for NHSJobs NHSStrikes

katelamble I’d have thought they’d be better banning WhatsApp!!

So instead of pointing out that HMG provided inadequate evacuation facilities, unless you had a wet nose and shiny eyes, you shame women who - in fear of their lives - used whatever means they could to save themselves. You're attacking the wrong people.

You should be ashamed Stewy lad.

So you are going to get women deported to their death with this great scoop. Well fkn done.

They know which ones are the women in Afghanistan

BenChu_ Why don’t you FECKIN ask Lineker he’s the font if all political knowledge now

This Beck guy! Didn't he read the news?

BBCPolitics BenChu_ WHY hasn't BBC NEWS challenged Labour over the findings of the Forde report? Horrible to imagine such a thing but is Nick Robinson now in bed with Keir Starmer?

Silly question with a totally predictable response. No mention of the 'choice' being based on lies.

Joe Biden made you a slave. Donate to his 2024 campaign.

A choice? Yes, one they had to make in the dark save for the Leave campaign’s Russian marsh sprites, phantoms & Will o’ the Wisps. Some choice.

How long must we listen to the odious Tories trying to wriggle out of their responsibility for the state of the UK

vicderbyshire vicderbyshire fine journalism. Just excellent

I do remember discussing this with a colleague back in 15/16 and he used to say it was worth being worse off to be out of the corrupt EU and to regain sovereignty. The ability to vote out or in our politicians. Some people just didn’t seem to care about the downsides.

Unfortunately enough people believed that there would be no downsides. Incredible but there you are.

John Glen would rather sh1t himself on national television than admit that Brexit made the nation poorer. Enjoy your playtime John.

Beany_1 🙄

Beany_1 Some of the rich did vote for the UK to poorer or at least they didn’t care if it did because it would not affect them. That is the disgrace.

Beany_1 people were lied to and then made that decision

BBCPolitics BenChu_

This was inevitable; blaming those who voted for Brexit rather than those who lied to promote it.

BBCPolitics He won’t be in office much longer and his last answer, I suspect unwittingly, gave away that he accepts that.

vicderbyshire “People were given a choice and they made a decision…” OK - but we had no choice on the disastrous budget a few months ago!

It’s a lie. defundthebbc. biasedbbc.

Anyone who is now complaining that what they were told by a pathological & serial liar, who has been sacked from every position he has held for lying, was as it turned out actually just a series of lies told to get himself in to power, needs to reconsider their life choices.

BBCPolitics Brexit was in my opinion a huge jump into the unknown, supported by many who calculated wrongly due to predetermined bias not really based on economics but ideology.

BBCPolitics BenChu_ Same old Tories rig things for themselves and mates Services we pay for run by cronies st a premium for a crap service The 99% of us get poorer, get told to eat turnips whilst these incompetent bastards drink champers create chaos and fxxck restof us over Power mad liars corrupt

BBCPolitics Well. Apart from almost all of the politicians, including Cameron, Osborne & Corbyn, all the TV channels & that Throbber Mark Carney, nobody mentioned that the country would be poorer as a result of Brexit. Yet we voted to leave anyway. Maybe not everything is about money.

Quite frankly I think all countries are lying about their return to Pre Covid status. Just as they lied about Covid. You cannot trust statistics when Governments are trying to boost confidence.

BenChu_ Dont care virgin

BenChu_ Brilliant if you’ve a £2m pension pot and are a potential future Tory party donor. They know they’ve lost the next election , so are building a war chest for after that.

ynysmon1220 It was only an advisory vote. It’s time to have the real vote now.

BenChu_ The OBR should have its own comedy hour.

Deflect deflect deflect. Don’t ever question him again. It’s the same as him saying nothing

vicderbyshire The 'people voted to be poorer' question is lazy and pathetic. People voted to leave the EU for many reasons, including the desire to become an independent, sovereign and free nation.

Actually there was quite a lot of rhetoric that said being poorer was acceptable as this was preferred to being in the EU.

We were promised sunlit uplands. No paper work to trade in NI. No impact on living and working in Europe. £350m for the NHS. The sooner the Russia report is properly published, and a few newspaper execs and MPs are jailed for Brexit, the better.

He certainly avoids answering the question - no surprise there

So they lied to persuade part of the society. But it wasn't enough so they used personal data belonging to millions of Facebook users collected without their consent and they flooded them with more lies. To achieve positive result they also used money from Putin and the USA..and

vicderbyshire Well done, great programme yesterday, I thought he was quite rude but you delt with him professionally as a journalist, in fact throughout the whole programme you was firm and fair in your in your questions but polite. A credit to the BBC and Newsnight.

miffythegamer He was particularly loathsome and arrogant

vicderbyshire Brexit...'the People made a choice'. Actually only 37% of ALL Voters..c.26.5% of ALL the People expressed Non-Binding support for several ill-defined versions of what they thought it meant based on a flawed campaign of disinformation. And in a democracy you can change this.

Government politician blaming the people for making themselves poorer and not the lies they told about Brexit and their own corruption & incompetence. Ultimate victim blaming.

The key point is that people were not offered an honest choice, and their decision, though “informed”, was deliberately mis-informed. Cummings even said, in as many words, ‘if we hadn’t lied, no-one would have voted for it’.

DeborahMeaden Arrogance personified- refusing to face the truth with a smoking gun in his hand 😳

NotaBot1976 The people were lied to

I'm sorry but it staggers me that anyone with even a rudimentary grasp of reality couldn't see that LEAVING the world's biggest trading bloc would only turn our country into an economic backwater, Brexiteers seem to exist in some WW2 fantasy world of Spitfires and ration books

vicderbyshire Brilliant. More of this pushback please - it’s so rare these days.

A choice of lies, all lies, by liars, still lying.

People were lied to. They never got yo vote on the deal which didn’t deliver any of the lies promised by every Tory mp.

These were the promises of Brexiters before the referendum so one can assume this is what the people voted for. ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

You are discredited as a station. Just be quiet.

I still see people on this thread and others claiming that they were uninformed or weren't told how it would be after Brexit. That is Utter Bollos. There were countless experts and independent, educated academics who posted information, videos and analysis. OwnYourBrexitChaos

Class from VD.

What the Party off posh nobs always do when they make an enormous lash up; blame the workers.

It was a decision informed by lies and fed by right wing media

A decision based on lies and false promises To a Tory that is a decision as the narrative was fixed to give the result they wanted irrespective of impact

vicderbyshire 👍🏻

They're now gaslighting leave voters. People voted to leave for a variety of reasons, but you can't say they did it in the knowledge that they would be worse off. And if anyone says that they did vote to leave knowing how it would pan out they're lying.

vicderbyshire There you have it 'People were given a choice and made a decision'. The government will take no responsibility. The government will continue to let the country go down the pan.

Victoria Derbyshire - we urgently need you to chair Question Time.

For the private sector, that isn't true at the moment....' Translation: 'When the figures are released, it will be'. The UK are far from the only G7 country to have been impacted by the pandemic & energy crisis. Tory lies, corruption & incompetence is the UK's problem, IMO.

vicderbyshire What an ignoramus he is. “People made a choice 7 years ago” is that going to be their answer each time now? Half of the electorate believed the lies they spouted and the other half didn’t make that choice. Govt then delivered a shambles of a Brexit and we are now in this mess

Utterly pathetic JohnGlenUK

Has he seen this Vote Leave video? JohnGlenUK Despicable to blame Brexit now on the people - after they have been told hundreds of lies. Hold all those politicians including peers to account who got us into this mess. Gove, Johnson GiselaStuart DanielJHannan et al.

BBC must do better to inform the public on the facts. The fact is that the Germany economy is in the same position as UK.

Can vicderbyshire do bbcquestiontime please? one of the few bbc interviewers brave enough to expose tory lies.

It's brexit stupid...

Nothing about being poorer on here...

An advise for those who have been manipulated by the Brexit campaign - NEVER BELIEVE THE POLITICIANS. They are LIERS, simple as that.

Ultimately Brexit must pay its way The strength of the Will of the People argument is waning, thank god, and in the coming months and years greater scrutiny will inevitably come on the impact of the 2016-2019 period We cannot sustain a hole in our economy leaking £100bn a year.

The Thatcher government in 1982 increased corporation tax…to 52%.. She did manage to reduce it by 1990… to 35%

It's people's fault then

JohnGlenUK the toryscum filth blatantly lied about everything and wound up the racist bigots throughout the uk. Surprise ... they all fell for it.

Imagine actually voting for Brexit 🙄 fml

Why is vicderbyshire & lying to the British public. You are too lazy to do your home work. Like UK Germany was 0.1 above but has now slipped back below. Europhiles at the BBC need to stop lying to the British public. We will be looking for an apology. Stop lying.

vicderbyshire Thank you Victoria Derbyshire and Newsnight for calling out Brexit to John Glen. The majority of the British people didn’t vote for Brexit at all. Those who did could not have known from the information we were given that we would be poorer and in this mess. Well done.

theAliceRoberts The reality is Brexit was caused by Tories and the economic outcome is less than favorable. Tories choose to not understand. All Tory MPs should be in prison.

Problem was when the populous voted for Brexit they also ended up voting for the worst PM ever. Combination of Brexit, Johnson, Oven Ready deal and packs of lies and Tory sheep has led us to this. Public are starting to wake up and come the next GE, it will end.

fascinatorfun Yes they did, actually.

In basic terms his answer is “people made a decision based on us peddling bullshit & if they don’t like it anymore, tough shit, they fell for it.”’

ynysmon1220 Am I being ultra sensitive? Basically he saying to voters ' you made your choice; tough shit, you have to live with it' All the voters fault apparently

Not a great look for a Tory minister to imply that people effectively voted to be poorer when voting for Brexit. The Leave wing of his party, now the ones firmly in control, were categorical that Brexit would be a great financial benefit, and anyone saying otherwise was lying!

People were lied to, some believed the lies, the sensible tried to point out the pitfalls but were told it was ‘project fear’ - there isn’t enough told you so’s in the world!!!

theAliceRoberts Both Leave & Remain campaigns were awful. Remain never made the case for staying in & Leave lied. Give it a few years & we’ll align more & more with the EU, join the single market & then it will make sense to fully rejoin. Those who voted leave will swear blind they voted remain

Godspeed John Glen

TORY LIARS TORYBREXSHIT

True. They 'made a decision'. But they made that decision based on false promises. Tory MPs lied then and they continue to lie now

vicderbyshire You were right the first time

This will soon be the Tory get-out clause; “it’s not our fault that people chose to Brexit, all we did was give them a choice.”

Can't see anything about bring poorer here.

Victoria for Question Time

They lied and they lied and they lied…then they lied some more. They broke the law, over spent, engaged in some extremely shady weaponised misinformation campaigns to get people to make that “choice”. These people should be put in prison.

No they were lied to and gaslit and given a vote on an undefined idea. It should never have been followed through. There were ample opportunities to pull back from leaving, all denied by this Tory Govt (sometimes with Labours help).

MikeElkins86 Salisbury’s finest doing the rounds

curiocat13 A decision made based on lies. 'Lies on an industrial scale.'

Thank you Victoria. Yes people had a vote, but not an informed one. We were lied to and told that wages would rise and prices would fall. Some of us saw that for the lie it was and voted to Remain, others did not, and as a result we are all poorer, and likely to remain so.

People weren’t given THAT choice. Leave denied there’d be any hit to commerce, public spending or living standards. On the contrary, Brexit would lead to a plethora of meaningful international deals, more money for the NHS and undisturbed trade with the EU. He’s talking tripe.

It was a bait and switch. People voted for a hundred different things and what was delivered was none of those. Brexit is a crime.

EmporersNewC The people who voted for Brexit made their decision based on, what has become increasingly clear, false information.

mikedbrook Are these robots programmed not to say 'Brexit'?

Goodness, the corrupted Brexit Tory's manipulated people's minds with Brexit lies to win, subsequently ruining the country & her nation. Excuses are now all unjustifiable. One senses the strong ambiance of grimness & deprivation everyday in the UK.

EuropeFife They were told it was all champagne & unicorns, cheaper food & clothes, Sovereignty, we’d never ever consider leaving the Single Market. ToryBrexitDisaster ToryBrexitCon

Liar, people were not given an informed choice and they were promised they would be better off. If they were told that they may well be poorer and still voted for BREXIT, then that remark would be defensible. But it is not!

So he accepts it has failed. And no they didn’t!!! WHERE ARE THE SUNLIT UPLANDS? LIARS AND COUNTRY WRECKERS.

‘People made a choice’ that they had no idea what the consequences would be is irrelevant. Imagine the comments from ‘responsible’ authorities if every parent adopted this philosophy when caring for the average toddler.

“My job is….”such a pointer that he is trying to steer the conversation away from a topic that makes him sweat. Also, the passive aggressive bit. “How dare that journalist hold me accountable! Must speak to Richard Sharp, Tim Davie, Robbie Gibb & John McAndrew about it”…

I think people will recognise that the Tory party are liars. Please tell Fiona Bruce to shout down any opposition tonight.

Incorrect. Spain & Germany havnt .

Probably because the govt members are not poorer - quite the contrary, he could not careless.

This is a good interview vicderbyshire… I wonder why it’s the first time I’m seeing this kind of scrutiny on the economy.

They've all been to the same media training school, haven't they?! Bloody Tories.

Typical Tory rubbish.

It’s because the Tories have been lying for a decade- people believed them - some Tories should be on trial for the fraud they committed and the damage they have done to our nation ToryCriminals ToryLiars LockThemAllUp ToryCorruption

Lies & fantasy dressed up as opportunity by BorisJohnson & his fellow grifters is not choice, can’t blame the EU anymore, default othering agenda already deployed, ah yes blame the voters, never their fault.

And he was born on April Fools Day. Just saying…

cirian75 They haven’t got what they chose through have they. They chose to be better off and have control over migration. Granted some of us told them they were being lied to and it wouldn’t happen but they didn’t choose to be poorer. No wonder the conservatives are on their way out.

I’m not surprised he was born on 1st April

Couldn't lie straight in bed....

Thank you vicderbyshire for being one of the few journalists left at the BBC brave enough to hold politicians to account. If only BBC Management had the decency + balls to play this interview at peak viewing time. ToryLiars ToryLies ToryGaslighting BrexitBrokeBritain

vicderbyshire They voted to stop foreigners coming in to our country.. I doubt they cared about how it would affect the economy. We were warned how leaving EU would affect the economy but that was brushed aside by as scaremongering. Now we see the reality. We will always be behind the EU.

A choice without laying out exactly what it might mean. Any meaningful debate was shut down in parliament. The Tories failed the UK by not allowing the due diligence that was necessary to take place. ToryBrexitDisaster

About bloody time BBC ! Finally an attempt to hold the government to account about the anti European politics of the last ten years. Keep up the pressure of the guilty men and women who created this utter mess.

BBC journo’s eh

DeborahMeaden No Conservatives are the reason. Too busy looting, doing favours for cash, taking Russian money, demonising groups, bullying, rule breaking, interviewing their friends, to actually do their job 1922Committee NeverVoteConservative VOTE UKLabour LibDems

Weren’t given a choice on what kind of Brexit it would turn out to be.

Do not forget that pre-brexit, we were in the G6...

People did vote to be poorer. Obviously that wasn’t on the referendum paper, but by voting for Brexit, by voting to detach Britain from the single market, they effectively voted to be poorer. 🧐

In order for people to make a choice the correct information should be given. This didn’t happen due to the lies told by the leave campaign people. Choice is only a positive thing when it is an informed one.

Bla bla bla

That should be ‘people chose to believe the lies’

vicderbyshire Exactly. We all want to solve the boats issues but not the nazi way

The usual obfuscation of course

Well that's a lie for a start

Goddess1345 the information the choice was made on was to a large extent LIES. £350m per week for NHS, exact same deal, nobody's talking about leaving the Single Market, millions of immigrants from Turkey who are joining EU, improved support for farmers.... the list goes on...

vicderbyshire Amazing! A BBC journo actually talking about BrexitDisaster 👏 👏

He is saying 'Brexit is the fault of the people who voted for it, ok, I know (but won't say) we tricked them into it but still it's their fault!!!'

This is what we're lacking in factual programming; the interviewer holding the government to account. vicderbyshire is direct and relentless👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

LaughAtlantic Let’s hope those ‘first time Tory red wall voters’ don’t appreciate being blamed for believing the lies and voting to make themselves poorer.

theAliceRoberts The unfortunate truth about democracy is sometimes you do actually get what you voted for.

vicderbyshire Yes. We did vote to come out of the EU and we knew that would isolate us. We wanted sovereignty and independence from the EU, and we were willing to pay whatever it costs to get out of it so yes we knew, and we still voted for it.

Victoria Derbyshire never was or is a Bruce, a Kunesberg or Raworth - but even so she shows added steel here - thank you Lineker and you, Alistar - you have shown the way and boosted morale. - but Kunesberg will remain undaunted.

BrexitBrokeBritain

They were lied to. ‘Sunny Uplands’ / ‘Oven Ready’ / ‘Easiest Trade deal in History’. Brexit reality.

Yes, they did. Each time people voted Tory or pro Brexit, they voted to hurt themselves.

The same people who told the country they'd be richer under Brexit now tell the country it doesn't matter that you're poorer, you voted for this, so we had to do it. Yes people, it's your fault for believing their lies, not their fault for telling them.

Just the relief to hear these questions asked! We’ve been living in a twilight zone of Brexit fantasy with no solace

But imagine doing zero critical thinking and trusting the BrexitBrokeBritain cabal. Pure liars and shysters and little Englanders - beyond belief.

theAliceRoberts Yes he is correct,up to a point,. What he doesn’t say is the decision people made was based on lies.

vicderbyshire Ha!! People made a BREXIT choice based on erroneous information, ie lies!! A nation duped. Utter disgrace!!These people will never admit to the biggest mistake in UK history.

She is excellent and the only front line BBC journalist with the courage to hold the Tory government to account. That is quite a charge bbclaurak but it’s on the nail. Same applies to your junior colleague ChrisMasonBBC

Good job Victoria.

Claptrap ! A nation was lied to and a huge percentage believed it and we are all now paying the price. It was and is a complete disaster. Jon Glen is not going to give an honest answer.

'I tried in this conversation to deflect from answering the question with a truth that we don't like'. Twt.

They were misinformed by Tories

The cost of living crisis has been caused by big companies in the “private sector” making massive profits off the back of the public’s misery. Most of the woes of the UK economy can be laid squarely at the door of Thatcher/Tory privatisation. Unfortunately Labour has become Tory

People were given a choice... Based on lies.

People were given a choice based on lies and untruths!

Brexit was based on a lie. They continue to lie. We all suffer because of the lies. 37% voted Leave. 26% of the population. That's not a majority. The Tories and their corporate masters are destroying our society.

People were lied to about Brexit, as he well knows. This for example, when will this be happening?

But the choice was based on lies, JohnGlenUK

As a government they voted to make the most of all the opportunities they could, for themselves,of course. Never in the history of British governments has one been as rich and self-serving as this one. And the British people so poor. Never vote Tory. GeneralElectionNow

vicderbyshire for bbcquestiontime

What a dissembling question dodging twat..the answer was even given to him

vicderbyshire Keep saying it louder and louder - Brexit is elephant in the room why can’t they admit it ?

It’s like Tories and brexiteers are fearful of using ‘project fear’ ever again.

DeborahMeaden “Did we vote to be poorer”. As journos emerge from Brexit truth inertia, it’s the ‘safe’ stock question. The stock response always “People were given a choice…”. So where’s the stock follow-up question? “But you lied & manipulated people as they made that choice…”. One day eh?!

Such a daft question actually. No one voted to be poorer, but people need to live with the consequences of their choices. Many voted for Brexit to get rid of foreigners. Sadly they now need to live with the economic consequences of that. There are no magic wands anywhere...

vicderbyshire I'd love to see ALL MPs pick fruit and veg, in the fields, for a day. A whole day. After that, a day working in an Amazon prison. After that, a day working in a school. All of these 80K, plus 200K expenses, need to grow up! Westminster is broken

The difference between people who voted stay and people who voted leave were that remainers didn’t believe the government could do any of this and the leavers just blindly followed. Looks where that’s got us, divided and poor.

An unseen pact with the devil. All the leavers were liars.

A choice based on some lies and a economic model that trashed the economy .

Finally someone asking the obvious questions that need answering

Glen avoids answering the question about Brexit. People were manipulated and worse, allowed to be manipulated by liars and cheats. The Establishment failed to provide truth over one of the most significant decisions about the future of the UK this century.

Germany hasn’t either- its GDP has been revised down Who said BBC journos were economically illiterate?

MarksLarks No other country in the world would accept advisory Ref16 and a tiny minority as binding before knowing ts&cs. It was totally corrupt.

Karmaintime ‘Well we lied to them and they voted for the lies. Not our fault they were stupid enough to believe it’ . There speaks a true conservative.

They didn't want more furriners in the UK. Being poorer now is collateral damage.

Brexit was an unnecessary choice we didn't ask for it was all about the direction of the Conservative party, an internal issue that could only be resolved publicly through a vote. Conditions where set for a far right coup and it was successful. Everyone lost even the Tories.

Sounds more like his job is to lie and bullshit his way out of answering important questions. Sounds about 'right' to me.

But the choice was based on misinformation from those now in power. It was fraudulently missold, with a fraudulent campaign, backed unfortunately by a BBC that failed to challenge and equated experts and charlatans, facts and ridiculous opinion.

JohnGlenUK people were not given 'a choice'. You refused to publish proper impact reports, ministers lied about the economic hit, it was advisory. Bring advisory meant YOU should have decided having all the facts. You are wrong. vicderbyshire LBC mrjamesob

Based on lies and falsehoods!!

This is too little too late The BBC has been compromised for too long by Tory propaganda GeneralElectionNow

So when the markets crashed in 2008, it was all Labour’s fault. When something goes wrong under the Tories, it’s everyone else’s fault. Logic.

DeborahMeaden People made a decision but we’re not given all the facts. Project fear and blatant misinformation from the leave campaign- food will be cheaper, borders willl be more secure etc - mislead millions into voting leave. Look how many say they have changed their mind?

Why give that gobshite airspace?

Wow

Good, Victoria. Please keep showing these guys up.

fascinatorfun Don’t remember being given a choice to leave the single market. Totally different to leaving EU

Well done Victoria, holding this lying charlatan to task.

The guest who was not from the TUC, where was she from? I found her comments ill informed and not useful. I wonder if she was representing the IEA or something

Brexiters have had the brass neck to say 'we knew what we were voting for, that it would be shit, because Remoaners told us', despite calling it 'Project Fear' at the time.

DeborahMeaden If it's in Newsnight it doesn't exist. Brexit voters don't understand the long words they use on Newsnight. Put it on the News at 6.

They were lied to, that there would be 'sunlit uplands' & Britannia would reap trade from the world, & there would be an immediate 'Brexit Boom' (The Express, ad nauseum). It was all bullshit.

DeborahMeaden When Russians, billionaires and big tech, all promote something it is usually not a good idea.

theAliceRoberts They voted for several lies made by the Conservative government, mainly due to the EU bringing in legislation which would have affected the rich.

JohnGlenUK is petulance in very slow motion. Conservatives

The sneering contempt and sheer arrogance is staggering. We mean nothing to these people.

ToriesLieAndLieAndLie…

EmporersNewC Of course they voted to be poorer! That they didn't *realise* they were voting to be poorer is a devastating indictment of the BBC.

DeborahMeaden It's OK on the LauraKuenssberg show Sunday Jeremy_Hunt said that he was proud of the Conservative record since 2010, which includes the fact the average take home pay for ordinary people in 2023 is lower than it was in 2010. Conservatives looking after the rich not the rest.

vicderbyshire

DeborahMeaden A lot of the people who voted in the EU referendum didn’t think long term and guess that their vote would lead to to people becoming poorer. They were fed the bullshit the Tory racists supplied and fell hook, line and sinker. Says it all doesn’t it really

A person who was voting leave was asked did it matter if this meant being poorer and they answered no it didn't matter.

The Brexit gang promised a futuristic paradise and instead we are getting a rerun of Coronation Street from the early 70s. Our only hope is a change of government at the next election

DeborahMeaden The public were lied to remember the big red bus? Johnson lied and some people believed him. Nobody with any brain cells believed it, nobody would deliberately vote to impoverish themselves. Red wall loaned their votes to Johnson, they'll snatch them back this time!

I don't remember anyone on the Vote Leave side talking about introducing Voter ID laws and removing people's right to protest and strike.

DeborahMeaden People were given a choice based 100% on lies............nothing else.

odd as America access the single market. Australia accesses the single market India accesses the single market.. and guess what.. Brexit UK also accesses the single market.. what does Brexit have to do with it ?

Finally an interviewer who actually is asking about the unmentionable Brexit elephant in the room. Amazing how the squirming and lying is relentless.

Openness of our economies seems to be the new catchphrase

People were told they be better off .. that’s the biggest paragraph to follow 🤷🏻‍♂️

Budget reaction from Jonathan Reynolds proves as wise as his beard. Not. Jeremy Hunt favours the well off at the rest's expense. Labour's tight spending limits promise little better. Stephen Bush claims Starmer as a would-be PM holds no horror for Tory MPs. Plus ca change

We are poorer, less free and less sovereign.

I use to hear this all the time....... we knew what we voted for..... Mr brexit..... really?

Mr Brexit - Nigel Farage - during a BBC interview around the time of the referendum on Scottish independence, was asked if the UK should leave EU even if it meant economic harm. He said yes. Blue passports, and all that

Vote Leave lied. Johnson and Gove lied. The Conservatives lied. And now we are (mostly) all poorer.

vicderbyshire, all credit to you for being one of the rare, legit. journalists in your endeavours to probe JohnGlenUK on G7 & BrexitReality. Obfuscation, feeble excuses, ToryLies & ToryGaslighting from them as always.

The people may have made a decision in 2016, but now that they realise that the decision to Brexit was a mistake they should have the opportunity to reverse it. Newsnight

Always problems not solutions.... sigh.

Tory being a Tory. There's always someone else to blame and this time it's the people.

Reynolds... lick spickle centrist. Used the phrase 'very disappointing' referring to 12 long years of Tory hell and devastation of millions of working class lives. What a useless melt!

i voted brexit to be poorer..immigration and sovereignty were more important

vicderbyshire Great persistent questioning

That’s an understatement! Too many words and no action!

Not a single Leave campaign said we’d be poorer.

People were given a choice based on lies!! LiarJohnson BrexitBrokeBritain

So tories are looking to remove benefits for those that will not gain employment but also wants to increase immigration to fill the employment gap. Surely the gap can be filled by the former rather than the latter 🤔

Yes, they did vote to make themselves poorer. Next!

Half the people

Don't let them deflect and lie, well done Victoria 👏👏👏👏

Wrong question. Should be asking whether people were told they would be poorer when they voted for brexit. Was it an informed choice.

Incredible,

vicderbyshire Tories find money when a GE is looming. Remember the last 13 years.

Labour will just seek to continue unworkable Tory policies.

fascinatorfun People voted to be poorer, and we saw it as our duty to deliver that.

vicderbyshire Hmmm! I seem to remember in my Six Sigma training, there was a promoted ethic of ‘steal shamelessly’… rather like not reinventing the wheel. 🤷‍♂️

EmporersNewC

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Jeremy Hunt's talk of 'Brexit freedoms' sounded hollow and disingenuous. With access to the latest UK economic performance data, he knows very well that Brexit is BS!

Dishonest and arrogant

“People were given a choice and made a decision” It's been established they won on lies.

Lets hope journalists on BBC newsnight will speak with integrity & not at behove of Tory party propaganda arm. In Britain we've accepted being made poorer,paying more for no services,starving,being homeless,punished when sick or unemployed Each party is as guilty as the next.

johnglen presumably too embarrassed about his performance to post this on his own twitter feed. On the rare occasions John is allowed to speak to a journalist, it becomes very clear why he is rarely seen out in public on his own.

EmporersNewC People were promised a wealthier, happier future by those liars in the ‘Leave’ campaigns. They did not intend to make themselves and the country poorer. Ridiculous, disturbing gaslighting to suggest otherwise.

GDP does not reflect whether people who voted for Brexit are poorer or not. Wealth distribution and worker leverage is more important. The people who lost out due to Brexit are the monied and bourgeoisie.

TeresaC123 Hello! It isn’t just that no one voted to be poorer: no one was told that would be the affect of voting to leave. It wasn’t on the ballot paper. We were told we’d be better off and there would be no downsides.

Here's our MP openly being a shit. I hope Salisbury gives him the heave ho shortly. salisburylibdem it's on you now.

Excellent interview - he has no answers - and the white elephant in the room BREXIT must not be raised because the Tory mob can’t answer or admit their mistakes nor can daft brexiteers who have wrecked peoples lives on the merry go round of so called sovereignty nonsense

This interview shows if you ask the right questions and keep on Tories crumble. JohnGlenUK was useless on PoliticsLive and was the same on this programme.

People made a choice, and we the government are taking advantage of that.

So much dishonesty about brexit. Senior politicians need to start acknowledging its disastrous impact on the economy, not rubbish like this from Glen

A shame Newsnight presenters who have highly paid jobs can't understand why millions of people voted for brexit it was partly because the British worker's were overlooked by greedy capitalist employers and British Gov't didn't give one flying f**k their living standards dropped

Well they would, stealing Tory lite policies isn’t news, now I’d you had put radical alternatives to Tory policies they wouldn’t of taken them on board

It could be that the boneheaded Brits continued to pay the full amount into the EU and will do into the 2060s, for nothing in return. £12.6 billion in 2022. The English pay, but have no say. England needs to get out of the UK.

What an awkward interview, he was clearly disrespectful because a woman was interviewing. Victoria handled him expertly but he came out as out of touch and belligerent to try and cover up ignorance. Another 2010 intake that contributed to the damage to our democracy.

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Really. Like most Labour Party policies. Lets just spend, spend, spend. Even if the country can't afford it.

They came so close with the free childcare... Yet missed the mark again.

Pubs , bars , shops begging for staff around me .. lack of workforce will drive business closure where we don t want it

A decent wage for a start and a ban on zerohourcontracts who can afford to work for a few hours this week and maybe none the following Newsnight an important issue you magically forget to talk about Budget2023 BudgetDay

Controversial but let the zombie businesses fail, they bring nothing, take up skilled labour , dead-end jobs and never progress beyond providing pocket money for an owner. We wouldn't need those 600k people then.

five grand for three, two hour days, with a monthly cash free bonus of average salary! 😉

Fund the NHS will get many back. Increasing rich blokes pensions pots who can afford to retire on current pension pots won't.

Starve them! Force them to choose between heating and eating! Shame them! Blame them! Gaslighting them! It’s the Tory way!

OBR figures GDP growth since 2016 Referendum.. 'But UK growth has slowed since the vote, and has been much weaker than anticipated in our final pre-referendum forecast in March 2016 and growth in the US and Canada.'

BenChu_ How are they funding these hours, as we are losing another outstanding Ofsted rated nursery in Sunderland this July. Allegedly, this is due to the inadequate 'free' 15 hours funding. Now increase this by another 15 hours, how many more nurseries will close?

Crash of 2008 WAS CAUSED BY SUNAK made his fortune out of it Left 🇬🇧with a 42bn hole (Truss too)Brown forced to use our tax to save the banks Osborne last year ADMITTED theyd lied to us This Tory REPEATS the lie How DARE he Lab get the truth out about Sunak 2008 Alison_McGovern

NDNAtalk BenChu_ Bring funding levels up to cost. Something more realistic. The industry is on its feet!!!! Staff leaving in droves to find less stressful and emotional jobs in Tesco’s. Nurseries simply can’t afford to offer extra funding unless the government pay for it!

As with so many things .. the Conservatives would have us believe they have just been elected. They've been in government for 13 years and nothing works. Nothing has improved. GeneralElectionNow

So it would seem that either everything is in crisis, or actually nothing is in crisis and people just constantly want more money.

Tory motormouth..is he on speed! FFS..🙊🙉

BenChu_ BenChu_ there is no 30 hours provision in Northern Ireland.

Hi Alison, next time a Tory lists the global catastrophes that have befallen the economy, kindly remind them that they have left two off the list - their botched Brexit and the Truss trauma that knocked thousands of pounds off family incomes.

1. Government should not be in the business of marriage, it’s a 100% private contract. 2. Since they have inserted themselves into it, any two competent adults should be able to marry.

Why do you let him get away with lies?

The state of state provision for childcare in this country is an utter disgrace. No wonder people are at the end of their actual tether. Fix it you losers.

I haven’t seen the detail of this. However, any party that makes a significant shift on childcare costs will have a significant impact. Even to the point of voters jumping ship. It’s such a massive issue.

Our local nursery is closing for good at Easter, as it has become unviable.

Crash of 2008 WAS CAUSED BY SUNAK who made his fortune out of it Left 🇬🇧with a 42bn hole leaving Brown forced to use our tax to save the banks Osborne last year ADMITTED theyd lied to us and that bloody Tory REPEATS the lie How DARE he Lab get the truth out about Sunak 2008

That interview was an absolute shambles with neither guest being allowed to properly explain their policies and the Tory not being interrogated on why if there is better economic growth than elsewhere we have so many using foodbanks! Come on Newsnight get your act together!

I follow this sector extremely closely. I haven't seen a full plan for Labour for 0-5s. Happy to be pointed in the right direction.

HOW can Bbc reporting be trusted now in a General Election when they have a dodgy Tory Chair and militant Tory activists controlling its news output as Goodall AND Maitlis have described We just cannot trust it now can we to be free of fear or favour can we ?

Like Conservative government does with the money tree ChildCare Newsnight

BenChu_ There are not 'similar schemes in Northern Ireland' BenChu_ - here we get nothing at all for 3 or 4 year olds.

BenChu_ Are the conservatives effectively nationalising a key utility?

BenChu_ How come worker's/parents in Scotland are given more Childcare provision than in England, i thought we're all part of the United Kingdom Newsnight Budget2023

BenChu_ Should be called 'subsidised' rather than 'free'.

The government at in step with the poor bastards forced to pay your licence fee, which goes to fund stuck up, spoiled rich bastards like Lineker who slander US, while using our money to avoid the consequences of his faux virtue. DEFUND THE BBC. SCRAP THE LICENCE FEE.

TonyNicol3 Here’s the next stage, looking forward to seeing who buys it when it privatises 😡

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I'd agree Lineker broke the guidelines...but so have others. Clearly the BBC didn't expect the reaction they got either from Lineker or other presenters and they've come up with a fudge. Sad day to see so many senior people at the Beeb with affiliations to the Tories.

When only the people who WANT IT have to pay for the BBC. then we'll see better management decisions and more REALISTIC salaries.

RaVe_74 Everyone is the BBC, except GL, seems terrified to allow a word of criticism of the Tories! I fear the ERG has the BBC exactly where it wants Torychaos

Complete nonsense

That’s what you do before acting. Acting without thinking is a recipe for disaster and he should resign if that’s the case here.

Absolutely he did

An interview based on prejudice and guesswork. DefundTheBBC

Think we all agree on that, they’ve plenty of channels in the upper bbc echelons

The sooner that the crackpots of the ERG lose their seats at the next General Election the sooner we will be able to restore a dimension of reality to the hugely biased picture which they have sought to paint about so many issues for far too long.

The Government complained about Lineker comparing it to the Third Reich, certainly. Is Wheatcroft suggesting that overpaid football presenters employed by a publicly-funded institution should be able to use it as a platform for libel without let or hindrance?

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs The body cam footage shows her admitting to being a domestic abusing scum bag. She's also a paedophile.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Why are you downplaying her domestic violence? The police & prosecution had every right to take the case forward. This certainly wouldn't be acceptable if it was a man, so why is it fine that it's a woman? Appalling.

EmmaKennedy Her response was so unexpected. I was quite prepared for an ex-Telegraph editor to be coming out full guns in defence of the government & BBC. It all goes to show how corrupt, how far to the right and how dishonest and unaccountable our media has become.

She was lucid she was factual and her viewpoint must be considered seriously by both Davie and Sharp

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs NOBODY knows exactly what happened that night except Caroline and Lewis. You can all speculate and call her names, but when it comes down to it you’re just speculating and gossiping.

So in a nutshell he recognised it was Lineker to come back or him to go!

No one was sacked resigned or was accountable. The chair has gone silent hoping he will cling on to his job. Appointed in dubious circumstances and behaves as a bull in a China shop. What a mess all thanks to ToryCorruption the SleazeandSewage CONservatives.

EmmaKennedy Patience is so good... but that presenter did not want to concede that she was right about political pressure 🤔

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs She was charged with domestic violence. Victims also suffering under actions of police blaming them. Got to get it the right way. She should have been offered an intervention programme. But she was a perpetrator.

Might have been a good idea to have done that before going postal then eh?

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs We know she's her mother, but she's talking about a violent criminal who is her daughter. Hitting or attempting to hit a sleeping man (boyfriend) in bed with a lamp is pretty damn violent and a criminal act. Could have killed him.

Of course the government is undermining the BBC, their long term objective is to sell it to Rupert Murdoch. He wants a UK media channel to compete with the new channels that have sprung up over the past few years. The BBC is a ready made solution for him.

This is why I have voted for patienceforem to be Chair of euromove She is a knowledgeable and principled parliamentarian who has the reach, respect and influence to really empower the Movement and be taken seriously in the media and in business.

This is the problem you get when the BBC has to report on the BBC. How far are the journalists prepared to report before they fear that it might be detrimental to their career? 🤓

FOI request would answer that.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs So let me get this right. Fiona Bruce defends male DV abuser Stanley Johnson = BAD Victoria Derbyshire defends female DV abuser Caroline Flack = GOOD This is some strange take.

Lineker has blown the lie of BBC impartiality and brought the scrapping of the license tax a step closer. Good!

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs So the message is that if your a domestic abuse victim then please consider that you could be responsible for the perpetrators suicide if the police charge them with harming you. Pathetic.

vicderbyshire And black is white and white is black…this is not what it looks like to most people Mr Yentob. Now, more importantly what about Robbie Gibb land Richard Sharp?

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BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs My ex-wife hit me almost every day for 17 years. I moved out in August 2013 and I haven’t been hit by anybody since. The police were involved a few times over the years but I asked them to leave it and they did. I don’t think that she is a hero. Cheers.

Funny. Alan Yentob had an evening with BBC fans and acolytes at Sarastro’s in London’s Drury Lane. It was closed to public and press, but the doorman sneaked me in, so I listened to an outrageous, appalling pean from outrageously rightwing commentators, lauding him. Video exists

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs It's disgusting that a female perpetrator of domestic violence is given a sympathetic platform such as this

Davie initially buckled under Government pressure but Lineker had incredible support and compelling evidence so he limited damage to BBC rather than his Conservative paymasters.

Why is no journalist asking Lineker why he did not go to Tim Davie in private and avoid the chaos and division GL as now caused.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs She assaulted her partner. Do not normalise Domestic Abuse!

Alan Y making it up as he goes along. The public are not stupid.

this bloke is the least creative liar I've ever seen. You can practically see the bullshit flowing from him in this interview.

What ?! Make a decision and then 'think it through' afterwards ! Extraordinary defence of the DGs management style !

No. Yentob is wrong. What about tory supporters extolling 'vote for Johnson' 'keep Jeremy Corbyn out'? They breach the guidelines. Why wasn't Lord Sugar censured and suspended?

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs The police and the media including Dan Wootton hounded Caroline Flack to her death.

⤴️Baroness Wheatcroft is absolutely spot on ! 👌💯

vicderbyshire Vic, pls see this tweet by Andy Bell, ex BBC Ed Pol and more up to date than Alan on this. Not sure what to be gained looking back beyond where was decision taken - executive board or BBC Board - and role of Gibbs and Sharpe if the latter.

Yentop talks like someone who has been dropped on his head

vicderbyshire bring out the Yentob eh?

He should be arm wrestling to Opera w1a

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Why in earth are you platforming this ridiculous campaign: disrespectful to survivors of abuse and all those, guilty or innocent, who do stand and face justice,

Yentob said that Gary breached the guidelines but did not explain why or how? No one asked him to explain either? Why?

DohaScot Shouldn’t be a licence fee. Fascist state enforcing this fee on public who don’t want to watch bbc.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs The police have nothing to apologise for.

If only newsnight hadn’t joined in smearing Corbyn , he actually believes in public service broadcasting unlike the Tories and had excellent proposals to strengthen its independence .

vicderbyshire that sentence really did not make sense to me, in that there was a lack of additional explanation. Maybe I'm being harsh on Alan Yentob and I'm failing to follow his reasoning but he appears to be alluding to a management decision making process that is unfathomable to outsiders.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Thanks Vic real empathy and emotion a great piece.

STOP taxing us to enrich political activists like Gary Lineker promoting their Leftwaffe BS.

It would help to know exactly who made the decision to Stand down Lineker and who makes the decisions to have one political party having so much control throughout the BBC .The initial reaction of ERG Tory backbenchers who went over the top in the Commons blew up the situation.

Was very surprised to find that my respect, admiration and interest in AlanYentob’s work completely disappeared during his dismal appearance on Newsnight this evening!

'How do you know?' 'Because they did it in public.'

No, it should have been an instinctive reaction that: you do not react to govt pressure you do not control 'the talent' in their own time It's News that has to be impartial (and curious & critical) c4news skynews bbcnews lbc itvnews

If Yentobs on your side you should change sides.

AndreaAndreamax GaryLineker was right. ToryFascistsOut IllegalMigrationBill

Why wasn't he asked what he thought of Andrew Neil; even Emily Mailis, then the NN presenter, asking coup againt Corbyn. He is obviously Davie's apologist, the interview boiled my blood so it did the other guess's it looked!

Defund the BBC then they can do what they like!

Of course he did and when realised and saw the backlash he thought what is worse Joe public or Gov pressure he conceded Sharpe position is untenable And so Gibb's No more Gov board appointments

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Had she been detained under MHA on any of multiple opportunities she may be alive today. Sadly, those closest to suicide are often least able to provide objective analysis of what went wrong. Inevitably..

He makes no sense 😳

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Those behind the phone hacking scandal are still alive & kicking in the fourth estate. Nothing has been learned by them as shown by their attitude over Flack & Bulley. These guys don’t need a fox hunt to get their juices flowing, They smell Blood faster than a Tiger Shark🤔😷

If a senior manager makes a decision before thinking it through they do not deserve to be in charge

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs I wonder if her mother had been happy if her daughter had been attacked and the police as she wanted to say nothing to see here, no sadly she is dead because of the shame of attacking someone and not wanting the consequences and the failure of her family to fully support her

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Also not sure what message sending people who have been involved with domestic abuse home because they had self harmed sends.

They all need to go tim et al

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs I am sorry for her loss. However, she admitted what she had done then changed to it being an accident. She had sadly self harmed which statistically put her at high risk of dying at her own hand so to say she would be alive if she hadn't been charged is very hard to say.

All this Lineker crap while millions of people can't afford food or heat their homes properly Newsnight

Enough of this tripe!!!

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Yes, let's not charge any men with assault either in case they get upset.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs If a male celebrity had (tragically) taken his own life, after being charged with assaulting a woman, would this even be a story?

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs ...and I agree with Caroline's mother. Caroline was very vulnerable and the police used disproportionate power over her. Police was, is and will be misogynistic agency unless something changes. In order to be tough on crimes the police shoud start to be tough on itself.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Nobody knows the exact fact of that night..What does the boyfriend have to say ? If she was arrested eventually there should surely be a Complaint Statement. what is the Mets explanation of events.. Where is the Time Line of evidence to justify their actions ?

If the BBC is too close to Government it has to be axed Newsnight

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Fairly sure hitting someone you're in a relationship with, with a lamp is domestic abuse. If this was a man being investigated, I doubt this would have been given air time on Newsnight. Disappointing.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Tell us what shd ACTUALLY did to her boyfriend? I bet you all begged him to drop Charges! FLACK IS A DOMESTIC ABUSER, SIMPLES!

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs All she does is excuse her daughters abuse...had it been a man they would be celebrating! Gbh on boyfriend 'by accident '! Tries to commit suicide out of attention! Police take her back assess was probably coked up n would go bk to victims house! Charge = Suicide cuz career over!

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs The police are not to blame.she assaulted her boyfriend shouldn't she be charged then shall we let off all people who assault partners

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs If she hadn't assaulted her boyfriend with a solid object the police wouldn't have been involved, no one else was the cause and effect.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs No place for domestic violence doesn't matter what the gender is of victim the suspect can be reported for prosecution without any complaint observation of assault and injuries is enough.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs People forget that men can be victims of domestic abuse, too. Folk should actually research how many men have ended up in the hospital by their partners or had to move miles away just because of their wives or girlfriends.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs This is sad

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Caroline Flack seriously assaulted her partner. The police were correct in charging her.

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs But she was guilty of domestic violence! Sad though this was , her mother is being ridiculous.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs We need to take the word 'British' out of 'BBC' DefundTheBBC the woke, labour, leftwing, anti-British, Ofcom mouthpiece BBCNews BBCNewsPR BBC tvlicensing bbcquestiontime ditch GaryLineker TVNaga01 EilidhBarbour bbclaurak reetacbbc bbcnickrobinson - michelledonelan

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs She should have been charged, why are the MPS apologising at all, Flack had problems ends origin ....

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs If she hadn't beaten up her boyfriend she'd be alive. If this was a guy we wouldn't be hearing from his failure of a mother.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs So different rules should apply because she is famous ? Pretty ? Police can’t do right for doing wrong

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs More leftie rubbish from the bbc.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Absolutely terrible

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Sorry mum your daughter was an abuser and will always be remembered as one. Saw her at a strictly live event and wasn't impressed with her vocabulary to the backroom staff that night.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs The apology from the Met police should never have been made in the first place. The incident was fully investigated, all parties interviewed and full facts passed to the CPS who felt that a charge was necessary and proportionate. The police do not warrant blame in this instance.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs 😭😭😭

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs 'if Caroline hadn't assaulted her partner, would she be alive today' you mean.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs the british press are still at it with certain itv presenters using their platform and influence to stoke the flames

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Then maybe she should have taught her daughter not to commit domestic violence and she'd still be here. Mother should take responsibility.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Had she not committed abuse maybe her mental health would not have suffered, actions have consequences for all. Celebrity, no matter how minor or major is no excuse or get out of jail card.

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs If she didn’t abuse she’d still be alive today, but maybe her partner wouldn’t be.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Some of the comments on here are so upsetting. Poor Caroline was going through a mental illness crisis and needed help, not charging. Her partner and police didn't know how to cope with this. She needed help from a mental health service that is woefully inadequate. Very sad 😥

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Isn't Fiona Bruce getting some Flack for doing the same thing she is doing, minimising & trivialising domestic abuse. If she hadn't have assaulted her partner she would not have been charged, (which when it comes to women perps does not mean they will be held accountable). cdm

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Absolute Rubbish it was quite obvious she was suffering from a mental illness . She should have been charged for assault end of, Her Mother needs to accept responsibility and stop blaming everyone else.

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Tragic figure but if she wasn't an attractive woman but a unattractive man of the same age we would not be talking how he is the victim but how he tried to lump his GF over the head with a lamp as she slept.

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs She assaulted him, so she should have been charged

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs It would be interesting if the police could release the video footage of the incident and her arrest then the public would have the full picture not a one sided story?

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Why are they trying to make a saint of this domestic abuser and why are the media apparently offering media support. The woman was a violent criminal.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Only did it once

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Assalam Alaikum, the truth has won in Pakistan, God willing, and who has become the pharaoh of the time, is not the Pakistan Army and thieving politicians.

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs I still find this one of the saddest incidents I have ever come across. So unnecessary just an awful waste. I can’t imagine how devastated the family must still feel.

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs You can't not charge someone because the may commit suicide

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Yes it’s devastating for this lady that she lost her daughter but I wonder how the mother of her victim feels? It’s hard enough to bring a case of female on male domestic abuse to court. DomesticAbuse goes both ways and this will not help males to come forward to report

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Caroline Flack did come across as very insecure in that documentary her mum did, if she assaulted her partner the Police have a duty to prosecute, no-one wanted the sad outcome from it all Newsnight domesticabuse

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs But she would have done something else or there would have been another drama plus she had tried to take her life before

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs It wasn’t the arrest (as I saw it). It was the determination to make an example of her, the trial by media that ensued and then the steadfast refusal of all agencies to accept her mental/emotional health vulnerability. Her boyfriend even tried but they wouldn’t listen 😢R.I.P.

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Women can also be domestic abusers - that’s a fact

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs I feel for this lady as dealing with the suicide of someone, especially someone so close is one of the hardest things to deal with but surely domestic abuse should be taken seriously regardless of the abuser's sex. Or am I missing something?

BBCNews vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Wasn’t Flack arrested for domestic abuse? Are we feeling sorry for domestic abusers if they are pretty?

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Hang on weren’t they screaming that because she was innocent, before it was proven of course, that the Police had killed her by picking on her ?

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Hahaha

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Should the police not arrest people who appear to have assaulted someone in case they’re mentally ill, or a celebrity, or both?

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Would she still be alive if she didn't hit her partner over the head with a lamp?

vicderbyshire Ellieljacobs Her being charged with domestic violence was reasonable given the circumstances, so I think this is ridiculous…

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cliterallytheb does seem like since 'sex positive' sex ed has been pushed on kids the nr of young,mostly girls being pressured against their will for sexual 'favours' has massively increased, 60% of girls under 16 say they have experienced this in school-

cliterallytheb can we please shame kink back to people private bedrooms again

cliterallytheb why is she smirking?!🤢 'whosoever should scandalise a child, best a millstone were tied to their necks, and they were cast in the ocean.' - Jesus Christ. mind how you go

It’s a new front opening up in a culture war to attack on teachers & lefties. There doesn’t have to be a problem, a few isolated examples will do plus unscrupulous politicians willing to play on parental insecurities & feelings. FUBAR

The media, and social media are sexualising children, by allowing them access. Children shouldn’t have unmonitored access to social media until adulthood, and parents should be invited to school to discuss sex education!!!

Proofs in the pudding!!

State schools follow the National Curriculum Content laid down in law by the Govt Its not in there So is all this in private schools which are exempted ? Or is it a confected culture war? PATHETIC

As a teacher, I would say what she is saying is broadly correct and not unreasonable. But there are inappropriate materials and some sex education is not appropriate. And “if the children bring it up” does not square well with some of the activity based materials available.

This is all very well but this is what the one or the providers Cates named actually does on social media.

Fantastic, hard-hitting interview BBC. 'Is this happening?' 'No. Nope.' 'Okay fine... what does BDSM stand for again?' 👏👏👏👏👏

'You'd better just explain what that [BDSM] means ...' 'Oh, right, yeah, it's basically sadomasichismandsexactsthat bluh bluh bluh' rolls eyes, nothing to see here

‘Done’?

We have a problem in society with toxic masculinity. Look at what is going on in the Met Police. Young ppl will get information, like it or not, & if it isn't supplied by thoughtful educators it'll be supplied by the web & social media. Better that it comes from some1 like this.

sima_kotecha We are the people affected by the policies, We are not spreadsheet statistics who admire the half stories and cost driven valueless policies the cohort of scandal that are dragging us through the mire want us to be. We are the people who deserve and expect better.

you dont sympathise at all you lying thing

If there was greater control of social media and less information about Tory party games, children in Britain would be a lot safer!

Will you invite Miriam on to ask why she is making things up again vicderbyshire

Victoria: 'Is this happening in schools?' Sophie: 'As far as I'm aware no... that kind of thing doesn't come up regularly, but I have had questions about that sort of topic [choking] a couple of times...' So the answer is: Yes, but only because the children are bringing it up.

Of course they haven't because it's completely made up! We've got to put this bigot Cates who is channelling religious far right culture war rhetoric back in her box

sima_kotecha Sending love to all who need help.❤️

sima_kotecha As PTSD victim I totally understand your article about the police as I served for 30 years. The police cant or wont deal with this!

sima_kotecha And many of them still vote tory

sima_kotecha The underfunding of the entire NHS is a huge issue. It is time the government stopped stealing our money and funded it properly. Then we can help people in need like this gentleman. I have problems and the NHS is wonderful but needs to be funded properly.

BBCNews sima_kotecha Be strong my friend.. And they don't care but good people do

sima_kotecha This is heartbreaking 💔 ,government has to do something to help ALL EX SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN,instead of giving all our money to people who come here to get free housing and benefits

BBCNews sima_kotecha Heartbreaking stuff. ❤️

sima_kotecha All under a Tory Government!

Lineker was a brilliant striker. This strange chap just dribbles. Nonsense.

I think campbellclaret sorted this out.

Less traction to be gained from ping-pong than footie...

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sima_kotecha It is difficult for people in similar situations to track down appropriate self help groups. I remember when I first became widowed being very lonely, but over time I have built up a good social network, both online and in the local community real world. But it does take time.

Utter utter utter shite. Syed spouts rubbish as usual. And newsnight editorial team shows it is now worthless. GaryLineker should care less .

Laughable assessment of BBC by Matthew Syed. On the same Animal Farm programme!!!! Factional broadcasters think their viewers are too brainwashed to notice.

No mate. He was very very famous before he joined the BBC.

The right are so hypocritical. If he was praising the government there'd be barely a whisper.

Completely disagree .. BBC Has to many Tories sycophants pretending to be unbiased.. but u are not talking about them ?..

sima_kotecha If you have been affected by the issues raised in this story, help and support is available via the BBC Action Line:

What a load of nonsense. Did he say this on MOTD? Did he say this while being interviewed at the BBC? Did he say this to a BBC audience? I put it to you he had an audience, at least in part because he was an incredible striker for England.

What a load of nonsense. Did he say this on MOTD? Did he say this while being interviewed at the BBC? Did he say this to a BBC audience? I put it to you he had an audience, at least in part because he was an incredible striker for England.

Table Tennis…. Ok😂😂😂😂

He’s Gary fucking Lineker! He didn’t need the BBC to build his profile! What planet do you weirdo’s live on?!

Bullshit.

Dis he complain about this propaganda?

Syed seems to think he’s the clever man, whereas he comes across as someone trying to play a clever guy. I seem to remember him being flummoxed by a simple year 7 physics gravity question by Andrew Flintoff on the podcast he used to do.

Exposed for chatting shit, journalism is dead.

Look, not matter what you say, BBC are far-right now. So whatever you post is on the side of Tories Therefore of course you don't want those who know them to be liars and corrupt people, to have free speech!

And what about former Newsnight Editor Ian Katz, who was married to Justine Roberts, owner of Mumsnet - shall we have a conversation about how his personal politics influenced not just his Twitter account, but output? BBCimpartiality

addressing this is an absolute joke. Several journalists involved in this show have been overtly political - they just leaned right instead of left.

Shut up.

Why was it ok for Gary to question Qatar world cup issues on the BBC sport prog ?That would be ok then Matthew because they approved it? Surely as an ex sports writer for Murdoch your views are somewhat clouded

We need to take the word 'British' out of 'BBC' DefundTheBBC the woke, labour, leftwing, anti-British, Ofcom mouthpiece BBCNews BBCNewsPR BBC BBCBreakfast bbcquestiontime ditch GaryLineker TVNaga01 EilidhBarbour bbclaurak bbcnickrobinson - michelledonelan

We need to take the word 'British' out of 'BBC' DefundTheBBC the woke, labour, leftwing, anti-British, Ofcom mouthpiece BBCNews BBCNewsPR BBC BBCBreakfast bbcquestiontime ditch GaryLineker TVNaga01 EilidhBarbour bbclaurak reetacbbc bbcnickrobinson - michelledonelan

We live in a deeply polarised society but it is ok for the BBC to be headed by a Tory mate of the Prime Minister who has 'forced out' critics, a public service broadcaster who treated Brexit lies as equal to the BoE and IMF. Yeah, go for Lineker for saying it as it is!

Maybe Syed should stick to talking about table tennis. That's how it's supposed to work, right?

matthewsyed says man desperate to work more for BBC. No values, no conscience.

1)he didn’t speak on the BBC 2)he played for England… his standing has derived from his career in football! Not from the BBC

Whining little snowflake.

I thought he was famous for eating crisps?

Can I ask what on earth has ping pong guy has to do with this ?

He built his career on being a professional footballer and is entitled to his opinion and not have to tow the Tory BBC line

I trust Mr Lineker. I do not trust Fiona Bruce, or Lorna Kuennsberg, or Nick Gibb, or Nick Robinson. Or Matthew Syed, it seems. And he did not speak about politics on BBC1. He talks about football there. That is what he is paid for.

Really? I only know him because of the walkers crisp ads.

Oh dear Syed. Honestly thought you were better than that

Got put firmly in his place by campbellclaret

Unclear as to what you're saying matthewsyed: 20,000,000 people watch Gary Lineker on MotD each Saturday night to listen to his political opinions? 😲😬

You can tell Matthew he can have his opinion but it's just that, an opinion. Not fact. Not truth. Just the spin he's been given from the Murdoch owned rag he works for. Did someone say ping pong player politicking performatively?

He is not speaking on BBC 1 but on his private twitter account. Does it not occur to you that his ultimate boss on the BBC is someone who has donated to the Conservative Party and helped a Tory Ex PM to obtain a £800k loan

I no longer trust

I hear retired table-tennis player Matthew Syed's backhanders are quite something

We do have a 'deeply polarised society'. We don't solve that by allowing the tories to go unchallenged when spreading lies that increase those divisions for their own benefit. Like it or not, it is simply a fact that the tories are using similar language to 1930s Germany.

matthewsyed is talking bollocks. The BBC gave GaryLineker a job because he was *already* high profile - as a very successful sportsman. Syed should stick to playing wiff waff with Johnson.

Then all of these Tory donors Richard Sharp, Robbie Gibb, Howard Shore, John Booth, David Ross, Lord Marland, Paul Dacre, Oluwole Kolade, and Simon Blagden can run Museums, Galleries, Ofcom, the NHS, and BBC.

We do live in a deeply polarised society. It's either, all illegal immigrants are great or some are and some aren't and if you hold that view, you're labelled as a racist, xenophobe, far right etc etc It detracts from sensible debate about this topic.

Nonsense, he built his profile as a very good international footballer, make no mistake the bbc need GaryLineker more than he needs them

The only time he spoke on the BBC on a political issue was about the human rights record of Qatar - there were no complaints then

Bollocks.

How weird. Did he think Lineker said this on BBC1?

Wasn't he once a tiddly wink runner up?

Who hell Syed?

Total distortion. Liniker made his comments to his 10 million followers. He did not make those comments when he was actually working in a bbc studio. We live in a country that celebrates free speech, is Syed denying this

The BBC recruited him as an expert in his field. God knows what anybody ever saw in Syed.

Asking sports people to comment on a news issue that’s about sports people commenting on news issues.

Absolute bollocks. Great example of how false narratives are created. Linekers fame came from his outstanding football career as opposed to a former TT champion no one’s ever heard of using BBC news night to project a different reality on to what actually happened.

Nope… he made his profile being England captain, a great footballer and a decent human being…. Who are you again

So playing football for teams all over the world, in World cups (golden boot winner) meant nothing until he worked for the BBC?

He's a footballer, not a journalist. He hosts a football programme. Leave the guy alone. We have free speech in this country.

Table tennis? Ferk off Syed you're irrelevant

Syed is one of those rentagobs who believes his opinions matter more than ‘normal’ people.

matthewsyed is able to be commissioned for an hour long BBC doc on his take on “woke”, while employed by a Murdoch owned publication ideologically. aligned against the existence of BBC. Not sure I care

This man is vile

Stick to ping pong

This is a daft stance to take and campbellclaret made him look a bit silly.

The vuew of the people presented by….. checks notes……..the former English table tennis champion. What the actual f^ck😂😂

Gary was a popular 'star' before joining the BBC therefore the association is mutually beneficial The comments were made on Twitter not the BBC...the BBC reported them - if they were concerned they shouldn't have done so

He's a table tennis player, how dare he have an opinion about anything other than table tennis?

That definitely makes him the best table tennis player at Tufton Street then

Could you not have booked the current British Table Tennis Champion as this one just talks a load of whiff waff

Mathew you should of just tweeted in stead you got more coverage on the tv

How dare this man have an opinion? He is on the BBC he is meant to be impartial

The BBC is controlled by the increasingly facist Conservative Party…Gary was saying what many of us see for ourselves every day…IStandWithGaryLinekar ToryBrokenBritain

Was singularly unimpressed by his argument.

Syed clearly doesn’t understand what it is to have a reputation based on having been one of the very best in the world in the world’s most popular sport. I guess being mediocre at wiff-waff doesn’t quite get you that level of profile?

Many celebrities and BBC high profile individual promote humanitarian causes and charities. If their cause was attacked by the govt of the day, it is the govt that politicise it, not the celebrity. The Govt made Compassion to refugees = political impartiality It shouldn't be.

Also takes money from Murdoch. You forgot that bit.

Who?

KirstyWark and vicderbyshire should be better than this. They should just look around the state of the country and think whether they still want to continue supporting those who caused this.

Matthew Syed. Owned by campbellclaret last night.

Are we in a society where 50% of people are out and out hostile to immigrants? bbcstrikenow This policy is exactly what Lineker said. Suella has been peddling this for a number of months with her usual tirade of off the cuff nasty slogans. She is the disgrace, she should go.

In dreamland - not supposed to be political my ar*e

Err and the guy arranging the disgraced ex PM's 800k loan then gets the job of running the BBC...no problems there?

If GaryLineker should stick to football, then clearly this chap should stick to ping-pong.

We all have and are entitled to more than one persona. Lineker didn’t give his message on or as a representative of the BBC he put it on his private Twitter stream. Is MS saying that because he appears on the BBC he can’t express a view on anything in any forum?

He built his profile by being a footballer, nothing else.

Disappointing but unsurprising from Matthew Syed. He built his profile playing football. I never watch MOTD and to suggest Lineker is somehow the face of the BBC is ludicrous. Level the criticism at Fiona Bruce or Laura Kuenssberg instead.

Thankfully, this country still has more Gary Linekers than it has Matthew Syeds.

Sorry who is the bloke again,,,, a Tory SYCOPHANTIC bot GASLIGHTING THE PEOPLE and stopping people in the limelight telling it how it is shaming the NAZI GOV who want to turn the UK INTO LITTLE HITLERSTAN

Is this the highest profile sportsperson you could manage to dig up who disagreed with Gary, and up against Campbell. Flyweight versus heavyweight, no contest.

matthewsyed But you think the conduct of Kuenssberg and Bruce is ok?

Tory journalist

Table tennis champion? Lineker won the Golden Boot at the World Cup! I don’t think table tennis man is going to become a household name anytime soon…

Says Matthew Syed Tory supporter and former ping pong champion nobody has ever heard of. Polarised because we’re increasingly subjected to state owned media.

And that means no one at the bbc criticising the govt. Ìn anyway. Ever.

Scraping the barrel here lads.

This guy was a bit of polemical cranky on QT...unlike him and his ping pong exploits GL made his name as a successful and respected international footballer. Strange how he talks of polarisation of society when actually contributing to such a process!

Never heard such utter drivel from you. The BBC is a lot of things its completely biased towards the far right. Chair of BBC is a lackey for the Tory/BNP party.

Absolute claptrap

top scorer in world cup scorer in beaten world cup semi final but bbc paid him a million quid to MAKE HIM stick to ping pong you absolute tool

Here’s me thinking Gary Lineker was well known as a football player 🙄

How are the BBC continuing to give this BS a platform. This is the problem I have with the fee - allowing twaddle and nonsense such as this to be broadcast.Gary was right - the beeb should be defending him and his ability to use free speech to voice his opinion, he can have one!

Lineker wasn't made by the BBC ? Who is Syed ?

What utter bullshit. Best keep to the Wiff Waff instead of the waffle you drivel. Lineker firs not use his BBC programme for political provocation. How dare you defend Nazis propaganda that many in the BBC are guilty of. Kuenssberg, Coburn, Robinson & of course insidious Bruce!

Who the hell even is this? Clearly a case of Newsnight producers desperately scrabbling around trying to find someone who actually disagrees with allowing GaryLineker to have an opinion 🤣

Yeah because nobody knew who he was before he worked at the BBC.

Polarised by the BBC rhetoric and tabloid press

A Tory controlled BBC fully trusted? you may be able to fool the hard of thinking but come on!

Why is Matthew Seyd being allowed air time having previously supported Mark Samson over his racist and offensive remarks claiming 'he was hounded out by a twitter mob'. Yes BBC really impartial. 😡😡 StateBroadcaster

Bullshit, BBC only wanted him because of his profile! Unlike some wannabes Gary had a platform before joining BBC. If anything, BBC benefited more than Gary .

The ability of the BBC to distract from the real story is deeply disturbing. This is not a story of celebrity opinion, but legislation which could make the UK an international pariah with a similar approach to human rights as Iran, Russia and Belarus. Why the misdirection?

Matthew, is that not you now putting forward some form of political view in terms of censorship? Hard to keep politics out of life. Didn't you also make a point the other day defending government ministers?

He built his profile as a world class footballer. Not a tv pundit. Why is everyone objecting to a man using his free speech to voice an opinion shared by many.

Rubbish

Matthew Syed built his profile in part because of the association with the BBC. And we live in a deeply polarised society not least because of BBC restricting free speech for private citizens as a condition of their employment. BBC = Big Brother, therein lies a problem.

Who are you exactly ?

His 'profile' was built in part by Table Tennis England. Is that body now right wing?

Hard-right pro tory 'journalist' talking rubbish, as per his Sunday columns in culture war obsessed and very pro tory Sunday Times

What absolute bilge. Lineker is employed by the BBC to present football programs. The political views he expresses in his own time are his own business. The ONLY reason this is a thing is because he was right and the Tories who have infested BBC governance are mad about it.

Yes gary isn’t know for anything else but the bbc

No, he built his profile being a brilliant footballer, captain of England, the only English golden boot winner at th World Cup, over 100 caps and zero red cards. He’s also a genuinely nice bloke. He almost certainly could work for any broadcaster or newspaper if he wanted to.

social media has exposed the media, journalists, broadcasters, celebrities, comedians, historians, pundits in their clamour for attention has exposed they all have the same political leanings. To have other views in these fields would mean limited or no career at all

Why? What for? Why are you discussing someone's right to have an opinion and not the fascist policy in question?

Syed is right. Everyone knows that Lineker built his profile by playing football for BBC City and BBC Hotspur.

Mr Nobody gives view twisted with untruth. Gary didn't speak on BBC, he tweeted on his own account and on his own time. BBC gaslighting to support the far right nutters once again.

Don’t forget the crisps!

Nonsense, he isn't an unknown ex table tennis player, he's a world famous ex footballer who played for his country, you don't need to watch the BBC to know who he is.

Syed is a menace

Can we hear the opinion of the bog snorkeling world champion on this next please BBC? As long as it’s on the side of the tories mind, because that’s not fascist at all 🤦‍♂️

Stick to ping pong

Syed works for Murdoch - end of discussion.

taken from BBC's own website on impartiality!

Claptrap. What utter rubbish. FFS 🤦‍♀️

Please don’t speak on behalf of “people”. He is honest, we know what he thinks, “ people” are happier with that - being open. Think about that, particularly in the light of the appointments at the top of the BBC - Frost and Davie - “people” dont trust them

These tweets prove how polarised we are getting. Nothing can be debated anymore, it’s all about left wing and right wing. Tories are bad whatever they say etc. I consider my politics as middle, balanced and fair. Not seeing much for me in any of our parties.

He tweets as himself not on a BBC account. Free speech is srill allowed. Just. For now.

David Attenborough's association is with the BBC. Should he be told to shut up too on climate change? Where does it stop? What about MPs presenting on a right wing channel that purports to be impartial? Should that be allowed? Lineker tweeted. He has 8.4m followers on Twitter.

He built his profile representing our country, he still is. Good for him.

What nonsense when their Chairman helped Boris secure an 800k loan 🫣

Your 100% WRONG & don’t believe you believe that IStandWithLineker

Syed has a ridiculous argument here where he is literally trying to silence a voice but asking for balance. Yet he really can't as it is pure cognitive dissonance.

Bad tory

Son of Pakistani immigrant is now condoning far right extremists policy on immigrants.....shame on you Syed

Someone is after a job at the BBC…..🤦🏼‍♂️

Meanwhile an “impartial” guy who donated £400,000 to the Tory party, helped Johnson get a loan heads the BBC.

So the Chairman should resign then?

‘Former English table tennis champion’ oh ffs 😂

I absolutely detest matthewsyed with a passion.

If I was a Tory BBC boss like Richard Sharp or Robbie Gibb, I'd want the furore after the government outlined incredibly controversial asylum reforms to be about a tweet by Gary Lineker, rather than the invidious position they put victims of modern slavery in. How convenient.

There’s a non sequitur if ever I saw one.

Andrew Neil.

Why is this such a big news BBCNews ? Aren't you paid by us through TV licence and not from Tory party? Isn't GaryLineker entitled for his opinion? Why is BBC not reporting about corruption from Richard Sharp?

I literally can’t grasp what this bloke’s point is. No one who works for the BBC is allowed to express a political opinion? I’ll lose trust in anyone who does? It’s all absolute bollocks.

Rubbish The Bbc is run by dodgy Tories who are pushing a political agenda It now has no integrity WHY WATCH IT when it cancelled free speech cancels criticism of Govt? Had its day Make BBCNews pay to view to clean it up

Bullshit. He didn’t say this on BBC platform. It’s true anyway.

He built his profile playing football mate. He then seamlessly moved into broadcasting. If the Tory bbc do sack him there will be queues of TV companies wanting him. GaryLineker keep winding them up mate. 👊🏻

But OK for Robbie Gibb and Sharp to dictate and shape content BEHIND the scenes? And intimidate Lewis Goodall. matthewsyed

He is on BBC because he is a famous football player. The BBC admin cant get so arrogant- but they have always been so. Complete separation from the creative part of the BBC which we all value.

What utter rubbish Gary Lineker is well-knowing for football, not BBC he's a legend for speaking out what's wrong is they don't like the truth being told ...

I'm pretty sure Matthew Syed is better known as a Times/Murdoch journalist than a one time table tennis player. That's quite an important piece of information for your Twitter audience for them to judge his input.

Sued has it back-to-front & upside-down. Sunak & Braverman are the creatures of political polarisation & extremism. Gary Lineker is right to point it out but it’s a symptom of how poor and beat down BBCNews is that they cannot speak honestly about it.

And you have built your profile through the media. That doesn’t mean you can’t express your own views.

No he was asked to work for the bbc as a contractor because he’s good at his job and pulls in viewers, what he states in his own time is not the BBC’s concern,

Gary Lineker: “Good evening and welcome to Match of the Day. More VAR controversy tonight.” Matthew Syed: “Bah, I can’t believe a word you say.” I often find Syed thoughtful and interesting but here he is just speaking nonsense.

Ping pong it is then ;-)

Table Tennis was his sport of choice and the BBC picks him to appear?

I'm old enough to remember Syed when he was a sports reporter.

Did matthewsyed just say GaryLineker is “a creature of political polarisation”?

I usually find Matthew Syed a thoughtful and interesting but here he is just speaking nonsense. Gary Lineker: “Welcome to Match of the Day. More VAR controversy tonight”. Matthew Syed: “Outrageous.”

Lineker has a profile built by football and many other things he does well apposed to ping pong and a useless argument. Lineker is free to say what he likes about this shit show of a migrant situation when he has personally invested and has first hand knowledge of the issue.

matthewsyed is a hypocrite talking Blks

The BBC, has maintained it’s fair and reasonable profile, in part, with it’s association with Gary Lineker.

Not really matthewsyed -they hired him because of his profile.

Stick to table tennis ya knob.

I think you left out ‘BBC broadcaster’ in your description of Matthew Syed, and also the fact that he appeared recently on QT. Does he therefore speak for himself, or the BBC, when giving his opinion?

Bullsh*t … 💩 ISupportGaryLineker

Utter nonsense mate.

It’s a pretty bizarre argument — I trust Lineker’s views on football implicitly because he’s one of England’s all time leading goal scorers. The fact that he also has sound views on refugees just makes me trust him more.

What a load of twaddle

I have never heard matthewsyed about the outright Tory propaganda of Andrew Neil, Laura Kuenssberg, Fiona Bruce, the nastiness of Robbie Gibb etc etc. Very poor, one-sided grovelling.

Syed is fundamentally confused...

Utter nonsense. Lineker used Twitter NOT BBC1.

Does this man not watch Question Time for starters? matthewsyed Or is he just a bit dense?

Utterly wrong as per usual, but what did I expect it’s on the BBC.

Christ the BBC is getting pathetic

Was JRM behind this? He seems to think he has the power to overide democracy.

I'm not quite sure we need to hear anyone opinion on this. Thousands were saying the same on social media hours before Lineker tweeted yesterday.

Sometimes I enjoy listening to Matthew Syed. This is not one of those times. IStandWithGaryLineker

well FDAGenSec its really time that your members came out on strike and refused to put up with the constant chipping away from these cynical chancers. commit to strike, bring the other unions on board, get rid of this sh*t.

What a load of whiff whaff.

What utter nonsense! Why doesn’t he pipe up when Tory shill bbclaurak openly supports the Tory politicians or when bbcquestiontime places Tory/ukip plants amongst the audience! Or when BBCNews never break bad news for the Tories till it becomes embarrassing not to 🙄

Absolute rubbish. This idea that anyone who works for the BBC can’t express their personal opinions is archaic. I pay my licence fee for programming output. I couldn’t care less what a person’s views are, whether I agree or not. Distraction tactics from the Tories as per usual.

To think I used to respect syed

vicderbyshire If it wasn’t for the BBC would anyone have heard of Matthew syed? The irony of him expressing his opinion on newsnight

What a load of tosh. Matthew hoping for more work with R 4.

Syed is so wrong, I respect Gary Lineker's view. Why is there no outrage over Richard Sharp? Newsnight

He’s not doing it on the BBC’s time and what’s the point of him pretending to be pro-Tory when he clearly isn’t. Do your job and hold the govt to account, don’t leave it to the UN and Lineker.

Isn’t Syed still employed by the Beeb? Needs to pipe down and be a bit more impartial imo…

Putin has been going around calling the Ukrainian govt Nazis , surely you can find a better way to criticize the UK government than using the Putin playbook.

Syed talking balls as usual.

Should he not be sticking to table tennis 🤔 Confused 😂

Unique position is to build bridges. Like arguing that those contending we should join the EEA were thwarting the referendum and being anti-democratic. Sure, sure...

No,, the BBC hired a star with his own charisma. They don't own that.

Too much pong and not enough ping.

Matthew Syed: “the unique mission of the BBC is to build bridges between people who might disagree on political issues…” I don’t think he can have heard R4’s Today programme recently

Umm ...

Amazing to see that Braverman's BBC will be turning back Afgan refugees...

Syed - what a simpleton

Go Gary

a)His profile isn’t built in part by the BBC, being one of the greatest strikers England has ever had might have a lot to do with it. b)It was on Twitter not the BBC c)Your dad was an immigrant, he’d never have been allowed in this country by the current government. Sit down.

Utter nonsense.

matthewsyed honestly, you're basically saying that Lineker is a well known bbc presenter and could therefore influence viewers who are unable to think for themselves. What a totally ridiculous standpoint.

You couldn't be more wrong. Trust isn't an issue. He does a good job presenting football that's it. I'm more worried that I don't trust Fiona Bruce, Jo Coburn and Laura Kuensberg.

Except he said none of this on the platform BBC provided. On the BBC he talked about football.

Why is he allowed to pontificate on all sorts, yet Lineker isn't? Who knew forehand top spin smash meant you could write books, and radio shows about 'stuff'?

His profile is from professional sport not the BBC you fool 😂😂

hmm a murdoch stooge going after the bbc, most surprising.

Mathew Syed was saying that Gary Lineker is inextricably linked in the public mind with the BBC, but I as a member of the public had literally no concept of him being connected to the BBC b4 this furore. I don't watch football, but it does suggest it has been vastly overstated.

He didn't speak on BBC1 about the government, he spoke on his own time. Meanwhile supposedly neutral BBC political journalists like Kuenssberg and Bruce show their political colours every week.

stick to table tennis 🏓

Utter tosh as usual

Both people in the interview know full well the UK public overwhelmingly wants our borders secured and the boat people stopped. Vicky Tennant clearly thinks the public can simply be ignored as is happening in the rest of Europe. No idea to stop this will ever be acceptable to her

mtpennycook Don’t. Care. International law is 99% advisory & conventional and always subservient to the sovereign parliaments that ratify any treaty. The UN is as defunct as the League of Nations was but has bigger marketing & charitable departments to try & convince us otherwise.

NicolaKelly I’m so ashamed that anyone would think it a vote winner.

.....p*** off !

BBCPolitics you peddle this at night and slag off Garry in the daytime. new labour in the evening and neo-conservative in the morning.

BBCPolitics … listen up Braverman

Editors in charge of such news articles should be held accountable for spreading misinformation. This would be a good start for reducing the amount of garbage we get in the 'news' these days...

Receiving all population of the countries that are at war or in misery is not the answer. This is the populist reply to a problem. Just act kind and get votes. The real solution to the problem is to stop the wars in the country of origin or at least not supporting them.

J It doesn't breaches the refugee convention. What breaches the refugee convention is choosing the preferred country to ask azilum in. Read the documet. What is being done in Europe now is a total disrespect of the population who actually lives and work there legally.

BBCPolitics

BBCPolitics Declare for five years, a 1mile international water on UK channel side. Stop these migrants entering UK waters to claim asylum. When they arrive into the 1mile international water, turn them back to France. If 1 mile is to narrow, increase to two miles.Job done.

good

Don’t waste our money finding out. It’s illegal. The UN says so.

Typical, they never say anything clearly : “is being listened to”, “I don’t recognise that” etc.

I think the plan is to concentrate them in camps.

Get stuffed.

A convention drawn up in the 1950's and is no longer fit for purpose. Time for a rethink on the basic premise that a 'refugee' can choose asylum in any country they choose.

It has to stop it has to be controlled.. allow women and children and families maybe.. but a constant drone of men entering the country who provide little has to stop..

Albanians, Pakistanis, Indians, Ghana’s and many others are illegal migrants not refugees.

ToryShambles

poorscousertom Concerned, as are many UK citizens. The Tories are creating an authoritarian state, look at every aspect of the UK and they are failing. Conservatives libertarian policies do not work, they impoverish, remove freedoms and reduce life expectancy. Need open routes for migrants

I remember talking about Brexit with RichardGrahamUK and the damage it would cause, he was wrong about that too. Tories broke our country, newsnight

But where are the UK’s citizens human rights? The majority of the population don’t want these boats arrive with unchecked people entering the UK illegally

Kirsty Wark being an apologist for the cruel fascism of the government; shame on you. Newnight

Utterly disgusting people, all of them. GeneralElectionNow

You have no case, Braverman is disgusting and shames all of you, as you well know. This is not who we are, I am appalled by the cruelty, the lack of compassion and the vile bigotry. Newsnight

🇬🇧

They would say that, wouldn’t they?

Our country is in very dangerous territory when the Home Secretary openly admits that the (aptly named) Illegal Immigration Bill is incompatible with the European Convention on Human Rights. Newsnight

Then need to withdraw from any provisions of the convention that inhibit the protection of our borders and our people.

He doesn’t give a shit about your country . Wake up.

Don’t count on it sorry to say so

Pathetic to see the BBC still promoting the washed up war mongering Russian puppet Boris Johnson... Still neocon fake media never gives in..

Yet the BBC constantly use this lame analogy all the time especially tory laura.

Separate money and state Litecoin

WOT ABOUT LORD FRAUD OF BREXIT.

Evil commie voodoo nonsense. Essentially advocating for a permanent wartime economy. And when inflation makes goods scarce, expect ration books. We must return to sound money. The only good economist is an Austrian economist.

Keir_Starmer RachelReevesMP you need to watch this.

Central planning at it's finest

I think she meant treat war?

Let me tell you about a little something called inflation and how it's an insidious tax on the poor and working class By inflating the money supply you are devaluing every dollar in circulation. Printing money makes us poorer

Let's not talk about the corruption running rife in the government. Let's talk about we can tax people more so the government have more access to public funds to transfer into private hands.

Multiple Capital founder Michael Jackson noted that Mazzucato who has innovated nothing, who has never founded a company, who has never built a business, is in no position to advise governments or the European Union on innovation policy.

The people are not the government's property. This woman is evil.

Taxation is slavery.

That is an evil mindset.

Read on the Weimar Republic you Cuит

Because Tories couldn’t scam the taxpayer They would have to PAY their tax 😂😂😂

Only in your head dear, only in your head

This will not age well.

Well said MazzucatoM - governments are not households !

Desperate

“We do that for war”, well have you seen inflation lately? How does anyone still invite her after the highest inflation numbers in half a century.

lol, this is paper thin.

For those who do not produce anything and live for taxes it is obvious that printing money is the solution to all problems ... their problems, of course, not of those who make business with their capital.

Germany in rhe 1930s with hyper inflation. You can print money without causing inflation. This is nonsense.

MMT = magic money tree 😒 MazzucatoM

This is not economics, this is politics as carried out by irrational dreamers.

ha hahaha only 10 years too late telling the truth better get kuensberg on with her ' max the credit cards ' for balance!

Someone tell politicians and our toxic media who still peddle this old Thatcherism. She originally said it bc people didn't trust her to run the country. She said she was a housewife, she knew how to balance a budget. A national economy is not the same as a home but it stuck.

she is telling the truth, the government could do a lot more .

Nah. They are deliberately creating smokescreens for you. They are hypocrites.

He only came on to take a swipe at Labour tbh the Tories really need to go. There is so much 2 faced going on with them ,lies,liberties, greed,extortionate and cover ups galore

What judgement are we talking about? Everyone I know, know's Starmer's judgement is sh*t

Apparently free lunches do exist

It makes you think they are scared of what Sue Gray might know about what else went on in no10 and what has been covered up, they do protest too much.

So basically she says she likes the idea of centralising more and power into fewer and fewer hands.

Communist infiltration in all levels of Western societies is now complete.

Because spending causes debt. Taxation covers some of that, the rest stays on the books and you have to pay interest.

Has she been advising Argentina? Only I was there in January and you could get 370 peso for a $ in restaurants, but only 130 peso to the $ at banks. Almost like printing peso has made them worthless. Mind you inflation almost at 100% won’t be helping those with local currency.

BenChu_ Isn't this one of those things the red and blue tories with the BBC's support told us made Corbyn a crazy choice ? Could they possibly maybe have been lying to us ?

This excellent guest will never be invited back on as she dared to speak the truth and outline a countries finances are not like a households. MSM prefer Guake and his easy to digest view of the world allowing Government to hide behind a lie. Thought Newsnight better than this.

This guy is my MP, and he does absolutely nothing for his constituency. A doctor who voted to pollute our water with raw sewage. Not even worth listening to.

BenChu_ The cut by George_Osborne gave away billions on revenue. 25% is still a competitive rate and is less the issue than whether you can actually trade as a business at all. Brexit

Europiain The great Thatcher lie in fact.

The only myth here is that this woman is an economist

Kieran Mullan. Who he?

Isn't this the abortionist economist that Bergóglio nominated for the Academy of Life?

Governments may not run out of their own fiat currency but they certainly do run out of resources. Zimbabwe ascribed to the unlimited revenue theory too.

Based on this, why have tax, why have people work, just create money and give it to whosoever needs it.

She didn’t say your conclusion, listen again

BBC journalist must be baffled. They believed the myth , or did they peddle it?

Glad you're catching up , albeit 13 years too late after blind unchallenging acceptance of austerity. No more household budget, 'maxxed out the credit card' analogies from your senior political editors and presenters please.

He's got a radio head. Doesn't he know? (He should stop scaring the children.)

Unlike the BBC these days to acknowledge anything contrary to the bullshit economics we're constantly force-fed. Pass this along to BBCNews people please.

Tbf she's never run anything as far as I can tell.

Perhaps Tory MPs might want to ‘question’ their judgement when they accepts well paid second jobs ‘consultancy/‘lobbying’ on behalf of multimillion pound corporations with political interests.

In general terms aren’t all MP’s and civil servants basically on the same team ? A team that is there to serve the British people ? Ok - some are in power and some in opposition however the goal is the same ?

There is no way the Tories want anyone with principles anywhere near Government.

Communist BBC

Another crying tory

Old enough to empathise with this? “Arrogant and offensive,” read the tweet from the UKCivilService Twitter account, which has just over 250,000 followers. “Can you imagine having to work with these truth twisters?”

She's another WEF/UN unflushable.

It shows that the complete Party gate enquiry was chaired by a Corrupt Civil servant who had accepted a Bung from Labours Mr Integrity Starmer …. to embellish the wrong doing of Johnson during lock down and to remove him from office …… Corruptpolitics

What does he think about lying to the Queen? What does he think about all the PPE contracts given out? What does he think of Frost getting a lordship for a deal that you are now critical off. What do you think of the ex PM Dad getting a gong? What does he think of an

This MP is arguing that his party's ministers and MPs are so corrupt they need impartial civil servants to stop them going off the rails - and that is Sue Gray's fault for being sick of their corrupt ways? And he thinks this is a good point

You’d think a qualified doctor would know better than to talk this nonsense

What is the difference between the Labour Party employing Sue Grey, and the Conservative party employing Lord Frost?

Bollocks

Conservatives = conspiracy theorists = culture war extremists = populist nationalists = crypto fascist authoritarians = anti-democratic societal nihilism and the end of British democracy.

I would have really liked to hear DavidGauke response to the point about the household budget myth. Do politicians know how the money system works and pretend that you need taxes to spend or are they genuinely in the dark, believing the neoclassical view?

No one has ever cast doubt on the Sue Gray report. If anything, it could have been much more damning. Therefore, she did no wrong. Surely, she has every right to choose her career path just as everyone else. These tories are clutching at straws. Boris partied. End of!

You seem to have contrived to mischaracterise what she said...which certainly was not 'address social issues through tax'. Quite the opposite. Try again.

We in Australia desperately need to start having this conversation. auspol

MMTpodcast at last someone saying this in the mainstream media, how refreshing. Need more of this.

Why the long face?

so true

BBC journalists have been gaslighting the public with this myth for a decade.

They are not reading the room , you only need to look at the replies when any Tory MP posts this nonsense . People don't care ,they care more about feeding their families , heating their homes and paying their rents and mortgages. Grow up

Governments can turn on the metaphorical printing press + produce unlimited pieces of paper, each with a value printed on them. But what that will buy is not decided by the Government, but the seller. Weimar style inflation beckons. Modern Monetary Theory = Magic Money Tree

Theres a few comments suggesting that this commentary is somehow 'left wing'. Well here's well known Marxist agitator er... Alan Greenspan explaining how the US can always pay its debts because it can print more money

It would be valuable for Politicians & Journalists to attend a seminar or 2 from Prof Mazzucato To understand finally that Tax for a Sovereign Country merely contributes to Spend it doesn’t dictate it as long as £ created is within available resources & staff Align closer now

Why do all the conservative MPs come across like failed letting agents?

'run government like you run a household' They run it like business. F*** the 'useless' people. Big profits/bonuses for the 'managers'/owners'. Which obviously isn't the way a country should be run. Which has children, elderly, families, disabled people, sick...'

Absolutely not. He forgot to finish his reply

The way this is presented as fact... sheesh

Generally, if you agree with Mullan then you are on the wrong side.

Says Tory, they are very trust worthy, just look at how wonderful Brexit has turned out, all those sunlit uplands 🤦‍♂️

They're excuse for more tax and regulation. Great

Exactly! War = £. NHS, education, social care, environment, etc., etc. = 🤷‍♂️

JudiDoodlecat Excellent stuff. Now tell this to Hunt and Reeves.

Why do all these Tories try to look like master criminals out of an Austin Powers movie.

garyseconomics good that this is getting discussed by other Economists. Helps get the idea out there

And then we have Labour’s Reeves literally talking about her mum’s grocery receipts, in her ‘mission’ to save the economy. Our two main parties are absolute incompetents- it’s no wonder they have got to lie, scheme, collude and engage in skullduggery to win.

Absolutely spot on. Japan has run a budget deficit every year since 1970 and has a debt to GDP ratio of over 250%. If the 'household economics' myth was true, Japan would have been bankrupt many years ago instead of being what it is, the 4th largest economy in the world.

How many times does this need to be said before the BBC stops perpetuating dangerous myths?

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Deficits are nothing to be afraid of Has he gone mad? Taxes don’t fund government spending? Deficits are good and nothing to be afraid of – really? Jim Byrne wants you to re-think the economy

'Let's imagine it's a war. You can always find money for wars' - Tony Benn.

Address social issues through spending. Tax to remove money from people who have too much. This misreporting is exactly why pre-distribution is so important, stop people amassing obscene wealth

timolarch The greatest ideological lie the Tories ever told, playing on the fear of those struggling with household budgets. Perfect cover for shrinking the state, enriching their cronies and donors by privatising services owned by the public and reducing the tax burden for the wealthy.

Taxes serve a central function within the economy, driving demand for the government’s tax credit (money) so that we can provision our nation. This creates unemployment so many of the social issues can be resolved via legislation and a publicly funded JobGuarantee MMT

Sue Gray is famously principled, capable, and effective. Anyone would want to employ someone with such characteristics. Jealously is unbecoming.

You might want to play this on a loop to your BBCPolitics & BBCNews staff BBC, it seems most of them currently believe the myth.

So the honest and truthful BBC have on an 'economist' who says governments can just magic money up Up next on news night is an 'expert' to tell you down is up and up is down How do these people get away with it

Or a corner shop

he looks like the police murderer!

What the hell is he on about?! Talk about trying to conflate two issues… what a slime-ball. KieranMullanUK

Prof Mariana Mazzucato is debunking an important myth here, it’s one of the crucial MMT insights. A currency issuer can buy anything available for sale in its own currency so real resources are its core priority, as our recently published book explains.

A T*ry speaking about trust, oh the fcuking irony 🙄

Has he been coached by JRM? 🤣

What a load of crap.

Cut the wars out and generate money for the country's social good n let the taxes be the input to run the country. They have a term for this in indian mythology 'Ramayana'. Nice!!

Oh never seen this one before! Where do you drag all the unknown MPs from?

AnneMacRae4 Corbyn worked closely with Mazzucato in drawing up the manifesto. If only the Labour right hadn't been working against us in 2017 we might have been able to implement this approach.

More lefty crap.

What she’s saying is govt spending is never revenue constrained, that govt can spend whatever it needs to fix social and environmental problems without tax revenue (like they do for war, right) and use taxes to address inequality and wealth distribution

OMG. Mazzucato for President ❤️

His voice is very irritating. Please don't get him on if you want my license fee.

This is a point made by credible economists back at the very beginning of 2010. Yet the BBC never challenged the idea of austerity. If a layman like me was able to understand how damaging and self defeating those policies were, why were they NEVER challenged?

It's a manufactured political mith that benefits MPs

Dear Anyone Pushing Back On These Comments Please tell me where dollars/pounds/yen/etc come from. If your answer is not 'the currency issuing government' you need to go sit at the kids' table because you don't know WTF you're talking about. I'm open for debate. Comments below.

Feel the burn 🔥😆

TorySleaze ToryBrexitDisaster ToryCostOfGreedCrisis TorySewageParty

You've been nodding this Tory lie through since 2010, based on the same deliberate misinterpretation of government spending. It played a crucial role in the 2015GE, the foundation stone of the disintegration of this country. Well done, newsnight

No it doesn’t.

I've argued for along time that the speech by Margaret thatcher where she compares sovereign spending to the purse in her handbag is probably the most damaging political speech in modern British history

What's an inclusive economy?

Does he know David Frost?

_olivewood But that's how Thatchers old her disastrous ideology to working people. And still they buy it as gospel.

Divide the economy into (1) gov (2) etc. Gov prints money to buy things from etc. Compared to how much etc. could consume without that new money, how much extra can etc. consume now it has the new money?

No wonder she wants to join Labour, after having first hand knowledge of how this Government operate.

Another desperate tory. They're all making fools of themselves with their cry baby accusations.

“Why don’t we use this killing machine to help poor people and adjust the global thermostat?” Are there any people more detached from reality than MMTers?

What by being offered a job that has yet to be confirmed because it is subject to procedures?

Prof Mazzucato, like so many economists, makes the fatal (for others) mistake of thinking that promising to give someone something is as good as actually giving it to them. Writing IOUs (e.g. printing money) is easy. What's hard is producing things to keep your promises with.

Hasn’t a Committe of MP’s which has more Tory MPs on it than Labour just published their report which was NOT based on sGrays report and it criticises BJ. I think Ms Gray has integrity and BJ accepted her report. Why shouldn’t she get a different job if she wants to. Hot air!

The problem with being an economist is that it is not a historian. If she were a historian, she would know that nations have always failed because of too much debt.

How does that stack up with Laura Kuenessberg bbclaurak telling us the UK has maxed out its credit card? Surely they can't both be right. 🤣

She's an economist? What a joke!

Finally, an economist with the right knowledge and experience.

So did this person detail what was the wrongdoing anywhere? Well?

Mazzucato always worth listening to.

Thatcher's kitchen sink, or swim home economics. The damage that ideology caused is what Sunak and Hunt want to create again.

I don’t disagree with her but all the left wing media people who get paid through dividends in Ltd company’s will be paying she’d loads more tax if her ideas are bought in are they ready for it

She's right. QE is used all the time. Problem in UK is the tax system allows the wealthiest to escape paying, so we need a wealth tax to address the inequality, and get wealth flowing round society again. Watch garyseconomics, another real expert economist - listen to him.

Well said. Government should using taxes to get things working for the future, for the people. Not playing mind games about the purpose of money and who creates it and who can use it.

Oh. But didn't that b*t*h Thatcher use exactly that as a basis for running our country into the ground whilst cosying up to Pinochet. Think this rabid Tory side is new?

No one is saying that you run government like you run a household tho. Literally no one.

LuvFB_HateFifa Hahah. Bbc is finally waking up to basic economics. Well. That’s a start.

Tories would rather make us suffer and control us through division with their economic fakery. Labour too.

Because of course Tories have never ever done anything wrong.

If you want even higher inflation then listen to views like this. Wild times we live in. Everyone lost their sanity. Let’s just print more and more money because I say it’ll work!

Outrageous - they'll be questioning the sense of trickle down economics next.

Someone decides to leave a job, serves the notice period in the contract, and takes another job. This Mp suggests leave a job and not allowed to take another job that is suitable for her skill set. Not allowed to talk to someone about another job whilst in a job?

He looks clever?

Exactly! But why is it so rare that MSM allows this to come out? The vast majority of the time it's all about balancing the books! Newsnight ToryCostOfGreedCrisis MMT

and the conservatives have LORD Frost in govnt, a mire civil servant?

How many right of centre tweets will there be this evening, Newsnight?

they are just rattled that starmer is putting together a competent and talented team ready to govern properly after 12 years of thieves and intellectualy challenged amateurs

Communism.

Absolute rubbish

pwsimerimiaw I can remember hearing IDS talk about a decrease to the SS budget - and it was ‘only £500,000’ . It was a long time ago but I remember then thinking - f . That’s ok then . Ffs.

And David Frost's? Civil servant that the tories put in the HoL and made a government minister? Surely making a CS a tory peer and gov Minister is far worse then one joining a party office as a manager?

This quote appears to be missing the key word 'absolutely not'

'Government's should...'?!!? 🤦

Sue Gray put herself in the middle of this mess with an incredible lack of judgment. Not because she is taking a job with Labour, but because she (and Labour) should have known the stink and stench it would create and therefore followed the rules 110%. She has undermined herself!

Keir_Starmer judgment is absolutely superb on this and many other matters. It is a grown up, intelligent, political decision which has been sadly lacking over the last 13 years particularly from this Conservatives government

rosyrosylou Noting the consulting industry takes a huge chunk of spending - making the case to increase in-house capacity rather than spending on expensive big corporate consultants.

And neither of our main parties even recognise that which underpins the vast majority of all the issues this country is facing.

Gammon.

A Tory MP disagrees with Keir Starmer? Say it ain't so!

Sadly she was not a great example to air on the show as her sound is like a lot of others in a genre that is tough to be individual in. However the guys seem to manage it. Maybe there are too many female artistes with the same sound.

What is Wayne Couzens doing on Newsnight? - was my wife’s comment. I suggest there are more regular descriptions of who is talking to avoid such regrettable misunderstandings.

Why does this little hothead think the appropiate place for the leader of the opposition to answer an important question is a radio studio? Tory ministers regularly fail to anseer questions,they are famous for it. Did this MP brush aside a serious question abt disabled children?

The latest Tory tizz 😎

There’s only the BBC who seems to think these clowns are worth listening to anymore, what on earth has happened to the news output

Sue Gray baked the cake 🍰

Dr? That guy was hopeless on NN tonight!

This MP reflects the rage in the Tories today. They have been in govt far too long, many know they will never win their seat again, the scales are starting to fall away. We heard the most ridiculous views on full Tory benches which will not do them any favours with the public.

Dr Keiran Mullen: I can woffle at length re something I don't really know regarding Sue Grey but can't possibly comment on info about Hancock's dirty WhatsApp threats because I don't really know anything about that and I can't stop to take a breath or I may have to try to think.

God, they love framing this story this way. ToryLies

Clueless! And that’s as positive as I can be for the guy !

Not a real person but actually a thumb with a face drawn on.

He didn’t say what she did wrong. Presumably, because she didn’t do anything wrong. DontVoteTory

Well said

LOL...a deep thinker by the sounds of him....

Does this mean that an MP can't provide impartial advice to business, and therefore any elected politician should give up any consultancy positions they have?

Just another lying Tory not challenged by Tory Wark. Spineless.

So if you’re impartial (and i suspect you were during the broadcast) why is there no other opinion on your twitter feed?

Did Sue Gray take the party photos or issue the police fines

Nothing a Tory MP says can be taken with any seriousness. They are rotten to the core.

MazzucatoM

Is he in a photobooth at Asda ?

this is almost as speshul as a Labour Party campaigner who told me that money wasn’t like any other commodity- we would never run out of cash. Feel free to share this with your bank manager if you go overdrawn

This is appalling - Matt Hancock is a lowlife - to think people actually voted for him in I’am a celebrity -

Knows everything about Starmer and Grey but nothing and no comment on any of the Tory shitshow.

Mazzucato did some consultancy work (a subject she has written an extremely critical book about) for Camden Council but has never disclosed wtf it was all about. Or how much she was paid. MazzucatoM

Good that she put Gauke-part of the slasher Condem coalition days-in his place. She spoke directly to criticise cutting governments.

Govts should run finances like families do - that was the mantra Tories (and lib Dems) sold to the public before 2010 and all the current issues can be traced back to that. Govts don’t run out of money ( when they borrow in own currency), don’t retire, don’t die! But argument won

pity KirstyWark won't shut up and let her guests finish their sentences.....

Tell Laura Kuenssberg that.

Maybe, just maybe… they aren’t actually good enough? That’s a possibility now, isn’t it?

In Canada the cbc has become such a hack rag with hard left leaning views and no brains just wokeness that citizens are calling for it to be defended. I see bbc is no better, hopefully you are defunded to if this is an example of bbc reporting. Pathetic

At last - it's finally out. Politics = football (no morals, no ethics, no loyalty - just money). What was the transfer - fee -(undisclosed)?

They are sh1tting their pants. They know more, and more, bad news will come tumbling out and it will be one scandal after another from now until the election. The game is up. They may as well clear out before they are wiped out.

What a load of uninspiring unoriginal gibberish. The Beatles got noes before they got yeses. So what's new?

They always have to drop in a slight amongst the praise don't they. What a turd.

She kicks with her left foot?

Or….she was never a fan of far right fascist policy, corruption, lies and Genocide by default!

fair play to lord marland he clearly expressed his honest admiration for Sue Grey a rare example of decent Conservativesum

Agee with why are the BBC wheeling out these guys? A leader must be seen to do the right thing & in Johnson’s case, he just couldn’t help himself & so is suffering the consequences of his own actions - it’s that simple

I complained to the BBC about Saturday night ‘most watched’ shows like Strictly,had very few, practically none,female artists on that important promotional slot,they had no real answers,as we pay licence,we want proportional representation of women artists.

Well said!

Nicely done Dave Penman, a well articulated and thought through counter argument…

well everyone signed up to formulas so why is everyone surprised?

She was a civil servant. Of course she was “a bit lefty”. They all are. She probably thinks Starmer is too right wing. Boris should have cleared them all out!

Who are these irrelevant, often unknown Peers that keep getting wheeled out on Newsnight recently…

'we always thought she was a bit of a leftie'....yet Boris asked her too carry out the investigation. Yeah right!!!

Why is everyone being a dick about this guy? He’s been really nice about her competencies and basically said she’s great despite being on a different side of the debate to her. That’s a good thing!

Perhaps if Simon Case hadn't prevented her taking permanent secretary to Kami Badenoch she would not have had to re-evaluate her career outside the civil service.

What he meant to say was … We always thought she was far too nice to be a Tory …

Why is Newsnight the preserve of irrelevant and ageing Tory peers who no one has ever heard of, most nights?

“ they’ve come to their conclusion without speaking to him..” he had the chance to answer but hasn’t bothered to. Talk about truth twisting. Not a day goes by without sleaze and lies. Soon the 4 tories on the committee will be leftie agents.

Lord M, apologist for Bojo. There was no one in No10 who’d have risked the ire of Bojo by saying, ‘while he was raising a glass of bubbly in whatever celebration he felt appropriate at the time, Sorry Chief Narcissist, this is in breach of your own Covid rules’. Get serious🤔😷

It has never been any different with Johnson- anyone who uncritically supports him is, by his definition impartial, anyone who is even mildly critical must be biased and the enemy.

Literally explained in the first paragraph of the report. Boris' legal team actually requested it happen this way!

What an utter pr*ck

They have laid out the charges and now plan to offer the accused a chance to respond. Seems reasonable to me.

Its very likely that the main proponent will lie as he usually does I find it extraordinary that doesn't bother his supporters Very cult like

What. Pr*ck

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the CCP is a lying propoganda institution, never believe never trust them. Don't listern to this woman.

no they are not telling the truth. they are working on far worse biological dna based warfare.

BBCPolitics Anything to try to get the Buffoon back. People didn’t vote for him they voted for Brexit - now neither are working in the way that people voted. We need an election. This shambles and shameful Conservative Party should move aside for - super super Kier Starmer

BBCPolitics Let's remember that the Gray report was utterly ineffective at holding the government to account. Which is probably why she's appealing to Keir Starmer.

BBCPolitics conservatives are becoming desperate people.... are you now the conspiracy party? as well as the party of lies, cronyism, arrogance & incompetence?

The bottom patter speaks. He does not understand the Civil Service Code, and has probably never read it.

BBCPolitics Apppointed by Johnson. Resigned after Johnson stood down. Obviously has an axe to grind. Some context would be helpful.

BBCPolitics Who picked her to lead the enquiry?

It doesn't call anything into question. The Met still found them all guilty and charged them.

BBCPolitics Lol / the stench of desperation is high here

Bbc peddling tory agenda shocker

BBCPolitics Paul Merton has put on a lot of timber dontchathink.

Lord Greenhalgh was appointed to the HoL by whom I wonder? 🤔

Another Bloated Lord talking testicles.

Doesn’t look good. Now the country thinks, right or wrong, that she is being rewarded for services rendered. Disastrous error of judgment by Starmer.

Are you telling me the lockdown parties that ministers admitted to never happened

Now use that analysis on the head of the BBC Greenhalgh you clown.

Steve Bannon has a doppelgänger

I've always been sceptical about effectiveness of MI5. Even more so after watching the performance of its DG. A bunch of nerdy Oxbridge types obsessed with Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. God help us!

How is Simon Case still in any job?

Luck the police found the same level of disregard for the lockdown rules... Never mind trying to excuse Johnson's crimes, let's ask how he could corrupt the impartiality of the BBC

The person showing a “failure of human judgement” is the murdering Islamist Salman Ramadan Abedi.

Beaut in a suit. It's called gaslighting. What a load of buercractic 💩

SueGray's investigation into Partygate wot brought down BorisJohnson? Not since Putin's last speech have I heard such an outrageous attempt to rewrite history! Johnson's downfall = his LYING about Chris PINCHER AND 60 CONSERVATIVE MPs RESIGNED from his govt. Keir_Starmer

Glad the Tories are suddenly able to find the words impartiality and proprietary in the dictionary. Once they finished mewling about a woman changing jobs, can they consider the case of how this man became chair of the BBC.

Cases doubling every few days? How? By the test, or 'act like ye have it'? Or maybe just skiving cos they got paid to skive when huge sections of working class, infact all, aren't paid for sick leave. Public sector take up what? A third of employment here, full pay/ furloughed.

Yet another of the pharma-sponsored quacks who ruined so many lives.

Infections were already decreasing at the point the first lock-down was announced.

He just chuntered. No real points. And he looked very unhappy to be doing the interview. Very weird costume for a TV studio.

But it wasn’t a Pandemic was it!!!!!!

Masks work. High quality masks work. High quality masks work only if worn right. Stop backpedaling and just admit you were freakin' wrong. Really freakin' wrong.

Why do you insist on wheeling this woman out as a medical expert when she has no medical qualifications? She is a mathematician and administrator, not a doctor or scientist.

Supposedly smart person chrischirp has a current thing flag in bio.

Oh Johnson’s mate, totally unbiased of course. Is this an example of your tedious balance? Newsnight If not, don’t worry Conservatives as Fiona Bruce is busy interrupting all opposition spokespeople while letting the Tory speak ad nauseum on the other channel bbcqt Hopeless

They didn’t need to wait for any evidence, it was all laid out in the evidence-based plans we already had for dealing with a pandemic, based on 100 years of science. It is an outrage that our chief scientists abandoned those sensible, well-established plans. Sweden didn’t.

Any doubts about that David Frost guy, who moved to the Lords to be a Tory minister. You’re a liar and a hypocrite - whoever you are.

I say let's see the Sue Gray report fully unredacted, then have a conversation about integrity.

Exactly what I thought Lord Greenhalgh would look like!

Peerage next👍

Masks worked.. Must be some other explanation for the present excess deaths?🤔

Nope. You’re just as guilty.

State of it

Stop lying, it really is time to stop

Hats off to him for keeping a straight face when Lord Greenhalgh stated ( completely seriously) that Boris Johnson was ' not a party animal'.

Apparently the BBC can’t punctuate a sentence. Did she say it “in a pandemic” or did she say it about decisions “made” in a pandemic. I know the current fashion is to omit commas, but like many fashionable things, it comes at the expense of clarity.

The vast majority of people won’t give a flying fig about this; all those kicking up a fuss about it are doing is reminding the population about Johnson breeching his own laws during lockdown & lying about it. They’d be better off staying quiet, frankly.

An observation which applies to many recent events. See also: Grey / Starmer, Windsor Framework, Harry's book.

does it hell as like. Mud slinging from a Tory surprise , surprise

Oh that’s good then

Civil servant moving to a political job, just like Frost.

Pandemic?

Yes you can. This statement is based on the assumption that doing something is either needed and/or will actually benefit. Quad Fieri - intervention bias! EthicalSkeptic

Sorry, but no. In March 2020, there existed 70+ RCTs and several meta-analyses of those studies that all showed a lack of evidence that mask work. This was known pre-covid. Hysteria and groupthink resulted in people making horrible (and authoritarian) decisions.

Censoring medical professionals was not the best decision.

And in a pandemic do you also have to squash any dissenting medical opinions and smear them as unreliable with the help of media such as the BBC?…because that’s what was done.

A muzzle worn because of constant media and gov't propaganda and fearmongering. A sign of subservience & control. One of a number of draconian control measures that have caused & are still causing immeasurable damage. We don't believe you & neither will history.

The high-profile role working for Starmer is her reward for screwing Boris over. She'll be delighted that it all worked out as she and her new boss had planned.

Why has KirstyWark not asked Lord Greenhalgh about Lord David Frost who moved from a public service job to a political role as a minister?

The civil servants I know are generally pretty well educated, and like the vast majority of educated people in this country, think this current government is an embarrassment that needs to be consigned to history, & that can’t come soon enough.

Cases based on a bogus test, for something no worse than the flu.

That’s why we had 🚨PRE-PANDEMIC PLANS🚨 to follow. Going back 30yrs. FOR ANY RESPIRATORY VIRUS (incl. corona fam) & these WEF 🤡s did THE OPPOSITE. 🖕🖕🖕 🤡🤡🤡

Nonsense,, and the 'sorry we didn't know any better at the time' excuse isn't going to cut it

Who needs carefully gathered evidence and logic, where certain decisions can harm people, when you can just keep making stuff up, unendingly? What a great basis to make public policy on. And considering this thing was exponential, I don't know anyone who died from it.

Say what you like there will be NO COVID AMNESTY 😡😡

Correct viewpoints were silenced by big government and big tech. We need trials and prosecutions. Nuremberg2

Wait til they hear about that bloke at the BBC!

He’s a lord, says it all.

😳 are they really that tone deaf or arrogant, as to want to remind the electorate about party gate ! But are we there yet EddieHearn ?

He says on the BBC where the bloke that sorted out the loan to a bankrupt (financially & morally) PM got the job as Chairman? Impartiality my arse.

Wiki: Pagel graduated in Mathematics, holds an MSc in Mathematical Physics and MAs in Classical Civilisation, Medieval History, an MSc in Applied Statistics with Medical Applications, and a PhD in Space Physics. She is not life-science or medically qualified and is dangerous.

This is bullshit. They were all singing her praises when she was chosen and now they’re making out she’s some kind of mole. Transparent opportunist wankers.

She should be in jail with the other criminals...

Cases weren't infections. The decisions were based on bollocks.

You can't shut the country down without good evidence! This is just ridiculous. chrischirp

'The civil servants I've made up that I've spoken to in my fever dream don't exist but are absolutely shocked.'

Yes I agree. I think the inquiry should be rerun, & done properly this time. All participants should fill in Met questionnaires, the security detail 24/7 o/s No 10 should all be questioned thoroughly, the ABBA party fully investigated, the new evidence that has come out included

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Go ahead & argue the precautionary principle but please do not corrupt science by the lie that science dictates your policy preferences That anti-science abuse of the inherent authority of science crushes the credibility of Science We'll be paying the price long into the future

And he's a Lord, no doubt due to absolute impartiality in the process.

Apparently Tories don’t like it when some civil servants leave the public sector for a job in the private sector.

Err what did he say about Sharp at the Bbc ? The dodgy way he got that job ? SILENCE Utter hypocrites The Oneruleforthem Party Pathetic

Bollocks ‘Cases’ thrown up by dodgy tests more like 🤡🌍

Why get an extremist on? All her neurotic claims have been discredited. The damage done can never be undone.

Oh no. More nonsense. We knew who was vulnerable. The retired who could lock down anyway. We didn’t need to waste our wealth thinly spread over everyone.

She's a fine one to claim that arguments were being made in bad faith! She was always available to scare people witless on TV and radio. She revelled in it.

Is she being paid to promote the narrative of lies? Silly question.

What an absolute load of BS as usual from the BBC, Pagel doing her best to change tack now the truth is out

We must sacrifice the youth, the young males, the kids for an imaginary benefit to the vulnerable elderly!

Wear a mask, get ill, possibly severely/fatally. Great advice as usual BBC NOT

She must have had at least 7 boosters.

'Pandemic' of dodgy PCR tests.

Put her in the dock. Let her answer questions there. These people. 😠

There was already a pandemic plan of action in place which was promptly ignored

Why didn't they refer to flu as 'cases' ever? Not because 'cases' makes it sound more scientific and scary surely...

Pagel is one of the people who should be on trial.

Pagel is the one that claimed there was no reason to believe Omicron was less virulent than Delta (When it first arrived from South Africa). That was fundamentally dishonest as the chief medical officer of SA was very vocal in saying we had less to fear from Omicron. Why?

'I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling scientists and your stupid evidence!'

What if those 'cases' are almost entirely mild or subclinical? There's making a decision, then there's imposing a radical intervention. Without good evidence you can't know that your brainfart won't make it worse. Was sticking to the pandemic plans we already had not an option?

She's right.........glad i made the right one.

'cases' was that based on the false pcr test? 🤣

She seems to be unaware that there were carefully crafted pandemic plans for RVs. Which were ignored in favour of locking down healthy adults and kids.

Can anyone name a Politician or any Journalist anywhere that has died or was injured by the Vax ?

Evil witch.

There are indeed, lots of 'cases...,' notably: Nutcases, fruit cases, head cases, lost cases and my own personal favourite, 'tragic cases.'

RUBBISH

Or you just follow the Pandemic Plan which has been carefully prepared by experts over decades. That's what we do with checklists on our aircraft. Imagine if we just threw them out of the window at the first sign of trouble.

What about all those carefully thought out pandemic preparedness plans?

Every country, and the WHO, had a prepared pandemic plan for exactly this “uncertainty”. What was uncertain was attempting and experimenting with untried methods in a panic driven by media fuelled fear mongering.

Bollocks cases, we saw right from the off.

Pagel is a blatant liar and commie. That’s the same type of comments Hitler made - we can’t wait for evidence of this or that, let’s just subject people to mental torture and death based on our flawed opinions. What a stupid woman.

That's all very well. But what happened once we realised that response was the wrong one? Arse covering on an industrial scale. No one admitting it was wrong, and indeed a doubling down on that initial error.

What bolloxs

Funny way of admitting she was wrong.

REVERSE REVERSE

Three Moments on why No to emergency declarations 1. Civil liberties are FOR emergencies 2. Emergency declarations ARE our greatest emergencies 3. Emergency declarations aren’t ethical even if voted for

That's exactly why people like her should not have the power to make certain decisions regarding other people's lives.

Lol, mindless narrative. These people get paid too much and realize too little.

She's a complete liar. She will never accept the evil she committed in the name of 'covid' aka ideological power plays. I guarantee she is a far-left marxist hell bent on stopping treating the individual & implementing social health care. Theses people are dangerous to society

There was no pandemic.

Vile, evil woman. She is responsible for millions of lives destroyed

But we knew the IFR was low for under 60 year olds from early Q1 data coming from China. So the Great Barrington approach was correct.

You still getting hot takes from that charlatan?

Why do you have a mathematician on discussing a plandemic?

The main thing they did was bang on about 'trust the science' and then finally admit they got it all wrong because they were overwhelmed had no idea what they were doing and none of their decisions were based on science.

Yes but they had downgraded the disease in March 2020 from high consequence disease. Plus they brought back lockdown for a second time when early evidence in states had showed it hadn’t helped and we knew it caused harm

ALL WERE PRO LOCKDOWN. especially the BBC. No balance.

Absolutely! Masks are working so well in stringently masked Asian countries that recently re-opened to Omicron. Their populations will be infected to saturation in under a year - more quickly than the least masked nations.

chrischirp Then why say you are following the science

Viruses are all lies

BBC disgraced itself, Pagel disgraced herself

What are cases?

Do these people know they are doing the devil's work or are they just so far up their own ass that they think they're the good guys?

You are a disgrace of a human being….if in fact you are one at all!

Credibility shot. To pieces.

Common sense plays a part in situations like this. And people like her and the politicians sadly lacked it. A lot of the stupid decisions made was strictly and arse covering exercise. The data was about as reliable as a chocolate tea pot

Lots of bad guys in how we dealt with Covid but this woman is front and centre of a group of people who tried to enforce the most dystopian lifestyle on the country. I hope it discredits her opinion at every turn in the same way Campbell and his dossier does! Stupid Woman!

Substitute 'shrieking activists' for 'shrieking journalists' to get a suitable response to Prof Pagel's claims. But while we're on the topic of shrieking journalists, take a good look at yourself BBC Newsnight.

“Casedemic”

Yep. If you are not sure what to do then do something that will 100% have horrific consequences for everyone for decades (shut down the economy). WTF would they have done if they’d been certainty? 😁

Pagel would call for a lockdown if she stubbed her toe. Sad.

‘Cases’…what bs is this 🙄

Absolute garbage. You don't blow up your house to get rid of a wasp's nest, whether there is 'uncertainty' regarding the size of that nest or not.

Jail her.

But it’s funny how those who got it right (Great Barrington Declaration) were censored and smeared though isn’t it chrischirp ? They knew straight away what to do, but their science was dismissed, in favour of an untested model, that miraculously, was employed worldwide! Sus!!

You’re a platform for propaganda and the insane.

Somebody who blocks everybody on social media with a different point of view has zero credibility when it comes to telling the population how to behave.

Why are you still allowing this awful woman to drone on and on and on?

So a maths professor is your go-to source in a pandemic? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

‘Cases’ not infections, that has already been busted as propaganda.

We knew the groups at risk by March 2020, we already knew masks did not impact airborne viruses and the notion we do uncosted untested measures in a panic because of the CCP is not scientific, its dishonest as is this poor mathematician and Corbyn activist.

WE SEE YOU

You disgust me with your bias and the way you cost lives from blatant untruths and manipulation. History will judge you

'Better to make some potentially crap decisions - FAST!'. Such good advice for governing - we're so lucky to have and her like.

The bigger question is WHY are you giving airtime to an organisation that has shown themselves to be wrong at every turn , never mind that they are paid up members of the Communist party 🤡

Aiding and abetting crimes against humanity. We see you.

Anything to justify blocking civil liberties for the demos

Sounds like she is supporting the government. Isage political activists tie themselves in knots trying to undermine government and their scientific advisors for political ends.

The cases were driven by the manipulated testing program!

Look at all the right wing anti-social trash on here. Ugh... just sharing a society with them makes me want to mask up.

That's why you have standing pandemic plans. Strange how all countries through them out. They preferred LOCKSTEP Plandemic

BenChu_ SelinaSeth Supposed benefits of Brexshit part 342 ! 🤣🎃💩

BenChu_ SelinaSeth No.

BenChu_ SelinaSeth Don't even need to read the article. Obviously No!

BenChu_ SelinaSeth No.

So she wasn't following science she was following primitive reaction.

Pointless interviewing this shill. She’s part of the problem not the solution.

chrischirp But you could have the good grace to admit you effed up royally.

unless you had a pandemic recently and made decisions that were later proven to be bad ones (lockdowns, school closures, mandating masks that didn't work, etc). so at least next time around we wouldn't panic and try those again...?

pmdfoster BenChu_ SelinaSeth At a guess I’d say unlikely, but I’d expect some Brexit BS on the matter from the govn.

Should be in prison

BenChu_ SelinaSeth You only need half of that sentence to know the answer. Has the government kept its post-Brexit promise to ... ?

That's true at the very beginning, but then you need to set out and generate evidence to show that your interventions work. Public health didn't do that, they kept recommending unproven NPIs with obvious harms, squandering the trust they once enjoyed.

Why do you wheel out this restriction fanatic? Well, we all know, she fits the narrative. Balanced is not her thing, she wants permanent masks. Shes a mathematician not a virologist.

Always the big grin when she is on like Hancock cant hide here sheer self importance honestly go away

So why bother having a pandemic protocol that was just ignored.

chrischirp Bore off pagel and the doom spreading indy sage political activists.

The 'Science-Celebs' making profit on the back of a 'pandemic' that never was....

What is a 'case'? A positive test with no symptoms? If those 'cases' double every four days then what's the problem? Perhaps we should lockdown from Oct-Feb every year to stop cases of flu? It would save thousands of lives.

So you disregard all human rights and commit crimes against humanity just in case? There had been well established pandemic science before covid which was clear that lockdowns and mandates were to be avoided and best results came from allowing people free choice & risk assessment

They weren’t cases! They were the result of a non diagnostic tool, which couldn’t distinguish between dead fragments of cold, flu or ‘convid’, amplified many times beyond usefulness, to give c 95% false positives which were then misnamed ‘cases’ & used to promote fear Nuremberg2

When will BBC start focusing on those of us who are injured from the vaccines? Almost 2 years of neurological hell from my 1 and only c vac az and still no support or acknowledgement from government and drs! truthbetold AstraZeneca vaccineinjured ukcvfamily

Looney Pagel...never got one thing right...but helped cause mass hysteria. IndependentSage ...totally irrelevent corrupt bunch of clowns.. laughable ...and BBC give them a platform...perfect fit really 🤔🙄

Your choice of experts is as discredited as your mastery of English punctuation.

The introduction of masks was a purely political decision & to 'remind ppl there was a pandemic on.' This woman is part of a political organisation masquerading 😂 as scientists. They have an agenda 1st & foremost & the BBC shd not give any airtime to these aithoritarian fanatics

Pagel is a crook.

Why is BBC giving communist ISage a platform, she is directly responsible for lockdowns and making cash out of useless masks?

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Prof. Pagel was the most competent and dignified of the whole lot. Unbelievable

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Has anyone learnt anything from this panic though, or will people like Pagel exonerate themselves and then do it all again next time?

Of course you can. Especially if what you do has consequences worse than what you don’t do

And when said decisions result in serious injuries and death those who made them should be held fully responsible. FULLY.

Stop giving a platform for the non- independent & dangerous zero covid zealots IndependentSage

I can't listen to her interview right now as I'm in a busy office with no headphones. However, her choice of family games is superb. What's not to like about Articulate, Ticket to Ride and Telestrations?

Professor Doom. Has she left her house yet?

You want to explain exponential spread of a disease to an inumerate Torybminister. Just tell them it's like 135% compound interest return on their shares. That they'll understand, (still won't be able to calculate it tho')

Cases of the flu. That should have been enough to wise everyone up. It wasn’t Ebola. But no; panic first, science later.

Independent Sage would still have us locked down!

Awful.There was plenty of prior epidemiological evidence that cases wouldn’t continue doubling ad infinitum. There was also a prior pandemic plan that dealt directly with making decisions in a situation of uncertainty. But they were perfectly happy to throw that out of the window

Why do you simply accept these 'professional' answers without questioning? Where is the evidence masks 'work' on a population level in the Omicron era? Many of these same professionals (IndependentSage)were calling for school closures until the (impossible) eradication of Covid!

Any interview of independent sage members should involve strict scrutiny of their roles, as they are a political organisation. And her statement is in bad faith, the lockdowns were based on flawed data and planning that threw away existing frameworks. Need better

That's a hugely important point. You can sometimes look back and think you'd have made a different decision if you'd known then everything you know now, but so what? Life is lived forwards but understood backwards.

Platforming this charlatan once again doesn't really help your cause bbc...she's desperately trying to justify the unjustifiable here and you're supporting her. Not a good look. Again.

But you can always be sure her decision would be cautious and damaging.

By the fall of 2020 it was obvious to many that the policies being pursued were causing far more harm than good.

Kit_Yates_Maths

edwardpoole1975 Not being corrupt usually helps

This lady belongs to a well funded lobby group! Out of the media now!

Why is this fraud continually getting airtime?

Stop giving airtime to these mentally unwell, politically driven vile activists.

You see I listen to people with this sort of qualification all the time, those on GBNews driven by some sort perceived ideological threat to civil liberties, not so much

People like Pagel shut down critique. She blocked me for saying masks don't work.

Those people who loved the 15 minutes of fame are now still trying to hold onto it, when it’s falling apart badly and they were part of the deceit and lies! chrischirp blood on their hands

Why is anyone listening to these activist charlatans from ISage. They had an ideological agenda and the destructive lockdowns they called for have damaged children, individuals, society and the economy. Many of the actions taken actually caused the deaths. Never again.

Says the woman who wanted Zero Covid measures

Absolute bloody nonsense, who gave you that right chrischirp? You don't get to drastically change people's lives on a whim, nobody on this earth ever has that right. Utterly disgraceful comment.

Such lazy, partisan “journalism” Why not do some real journalism - report on what Sweden did & why across 20-22 they have significantly lower xs mortality But no, you wheel out a political activist masquerading as a scientist who was one of these ⬇️

Such lazy, partisan “journalism” Why not do some real journalism - report on what Sweden did & why across 20-22 they have significantly lower xs mortality But no, you wheel out a political activist masquerading as a scientist who was one of these ⬇️

In case of uncertainty should have locked down hard.

When it was obvious Omicron was milder she was one of that screamed it wasn’t! A fear mongering grifter.

'follow the science'

If only the people wanting investigations into potentially unnecessary restrictions had the same energy towards BJ etc and the breaching of said restrictions they imposed on all of us Newsnight

Oh wow a real scientist. Thank you for asking Professor Patel to help explain and put things into a context that is non political.

Even if that was true, then once it had been done once and proved to be a complete mess, then explain why they kept doing it. P.s why wasn’t she asked to provide the proof it was ever doubling ever 4 days. P.P.S models don’t count

Fake it til you make it

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WHAT complete and utter nonsense. Dounbling tested with fake testing, Scientists who wanted even more draconing laws Scinece which juju... sure and all supported by fake modelling (he has a long record of this) Fergusson the master of disasters

It’s would have been far worse if we’d have listened to the like of Pagel & pretend sage. Their response to everything was further restrictions regardless.

These Covidian excuse makers : Always “follow the science” except when it is inconvenient or makes us look bad. Absolute charlatanism.

She's a crank who should never be given time again

You can, though.

IanDunt Seems to me the evidence the torygraph have provided is a political class unqualified and unwilling to follow the best available scientific recommendations, then scrabbling to cover their arse when inevitably their poor decisions made things worse.

Well we did wait when Omicron hit, much to your distaste and it was the correct decision We also waited in the summer of 2021 when reopening, which again you didn't want but again is was the correct decision Theres a theme here...

Oh FFS what is wrong with the BBC. You can’t get a non partisan shill to be on your program?

You must always keep it in context Not hindsight when looking at events Easy to be smart after the event

Thankfully we stopped listening to these 'rinse & repeat' talking head clowns long ago.

chrischirp Thank you for all you’ve done❤️ I completely understand the difficulties faced by scientists during a ‘once in a lifetime’ pandemic, faced with an unprepared government who cut funding for such an event in 2016. The U.K. would have had a much higher number of deaths without you.

IanDunt Why are giving this woman a platform still? Proved wrong at every turn, responsible for frightening millions unnecessarily & so far removed from science she should be ignored for some time.

jcrgordon5 When aired? Date please?

Profits 2030 World government Davos bankers

chrischirp Prof Pagel was part of an activist group (independent sage) which spent covid demanding ever more stringent restrictions and shouting down any scientist who disagreed, while grabbing tv spots. Life chances for many were irreparably ruined by the policies she pushed

The pushed fear fear fear to control the public. Now its uncertainty uncertainty uncertainty to confuse them.

What a load of pedantic scientific nonsense. We need to see the bigger picture- consistently wearing a good fitting mask works!

vicderbyshire Common sense that wearing a mask is better than not.

'How could you encourage a population...' Sick, ridiculous shit this is. Fucks the matter with her?

So if theres no conclusion about masks then to be on the safe side and to have worn one surely make sense

chiller This is true. But if you're the ones in power and your starting points for doing *anything* are a) the peasants are feral and must be controlled and b) how can we make the maximum amount of money out of this? then you are going to end up with what we had: idiot authoritarianism

Jesus, some folk need to go away and hide from our screens.

nicholaswatt The only thing clear at this moment is Matt Hancock should be charged with manslaughter and possibly illegally passing government documents to a 3rd party and or breaking data protection laws. Also, he clearly lied in the HoC which used to be a resignation matter.

That's why all the nurses and surgeons performing operations do not wear masks. What a load of old grollocks.

When did Fraser Nelson get a qualification in epidemiology?Why did he get more time than the real expert Professor Christiana Pagel?

Very misleading,talking about the lack of effectiveness of masks based on people not wearing them correctly.

Seems all too familiar.... 🙄

Professor Christina Pagel was the only one making any sense on Newsnight and the only one with relevant scientific knowledge.

Good grief, vicderbyshire is having a meltdown on Newsnight. Stating that govts of course should act because of public opinion, but forgets to mention that she and her chums on the MSM became the biggest cheerleaders FOR restrictions and lockdowns! NoAmnesty lockdownfiles

So you're not 'following the science' then if you're uncertain🙄

There’s a lot of dishonesty in a particular weekly publication I can think of too

There’s a lot of dishonesty in a particular weekly publication I can think of

nicholaswatt Sooner this muppets show finishes better for the country… not how they managed to get such a talentless bunch incompetent politicians in one cabinet…

Remember chrischirp, with her emotional tirades on our screens for more tighter and longer restrictions during the pandemic? NoAmnesty here. lockdownfiles Newsnight

Anything from the BBC ref covid narrative has become completely unbelievable. Utterly pathetic. Have some backbone and admit you've been under the Ofcom thumb and toed the line. You can't even see protestors when thousands of them are outside the building.

Oh another one trying to back-track on appalling decisions.

Again the bonkers FraserNelson & the Telegraph are determined to draw all the wrong lessons on COVID. Thank goodness that thetimes investigative team beat them to the punch with Failures of State, the real story of how rabid Tory dogma cost GB tens of thousands of lives.

Embarrassed for d_spiegel, who was out of his depth on Newsnight tonight. Unforgiveable not to understand that Whitty's remarks on masks referred only to their use in corridors. Thankfully, chrischirp corrected him & put him straight on his dangerous waffle about masks too.

The BS ‘trust the science’ is Unravelling bit by bit!

Carlsonsports Bullshit. You don't get to change the status quo and life as we know it with no data or evidence of an upside or benefit, while knowing there will be endless downsides that will do huge damage.

vicderbyshire We say no to wearing face nappies. We voted aaaahhhht and we beat the EU. Masks are for dem Liberals or Corbin fan girls. oiltrader16 nomasks momentum

Fraser has been anti-lockdown from the start. He’s sooo biased.

Seems a bit misleading to say the evidence is 'not good' when he actually said based on people wearing them 'not very well'.

vicderbyshire

Well done BBC. Roll out a lockdown merchant with a habitual liking for mask wearing just to balance the conversation. Pathetic.

chrischirp You did well but the impression left on me is that most of that segment was Covid minimising from the spectator!

He’s such a whopper

I often think, should I get a jab? Should I wash my hands? What would FraserNelson recommend, as a top scientist?

Ffs. Get someone on who can provide analysis instead of bloody obvious.

nicholaswatt Looking forward to attention turning to the unquestioning, relentless campaign of fear waged by the BBC on behalf of the government.

nicholaswatt Everyone knew Gavin Williamson was absolutely terrible at the time yet Johnson kept him in post. Honestly the public has suffered so much under these absolute shysters

nicholaswatt So we have two professors, Care Homes Chair and a halfwit totally unqualified anti-lockdown ideologue FraserNelson . You shouldn't 'balance' informed opinion with uninformed ignorance based on nothing.

nicholaswatt Interesting - on the other hand we have Julia Hartley Brewer telling us all masks didn’t work lockdown was pointless - so she would have been more than happy with open door policy everywhere ? So what next ? Human life doesn’t matter as long as folk can do what they like

nicholaswatt FraserNelson hasn't got a scientific bone in his body

nicholaswatt Glad chrischirp on Newsnight to educate on wearing 😷 well. Covid isn't just airborne in corridors.Masks off in an unventilated classroom....great way to infect children, who then infect teachers & vulnerable parents/grandparents/carers. trishgreenhalgh

nicholaswatt Sage be ame a lobby group states Nelson Really ? Think you’re confusing them with scientists who Sunak brought in Weren’t they linked to to the politically motivated lobby group based in the US who, fuelled by dogma produced the Great Barrington Agreement Rather disingenuous

nicholaswatt Interesting discussion involving people who are experts in their field. And Fraser Nelson.

nicholaswatt What I’m taking from tonight why the UK’s pandemic response didn’t rush through testing, it’s a question for MattHancock, BorisJohnson & other Conservatives & can we be sure it had nothing to do with the eye-watering £37 Billion allocated to TestAndTrace? ToryCovidContracts

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nicholaswatt when did MattHancock book come out? why is Isobel oakshot only now revealing this? thatginamiller was right. It’s all about Brexit RishiSunak yesterday telling NI that their deal is the best in the world BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAD BEFORE BREXIT. Its unraveling IsabelOakeshott

nicholaswatt I’m sorry I don’t know what wazap messaging is like, what’s it like?

nicholaswatt Tory gov handling a crisis: MadCow CaseStudy Tory Never ate it…. bbcnews bbcworld

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This is well above his pay grade. He’s more used to talking about the unavailability of the “great British sausage “ in Northern Ireland. A place renowned for its own prize winning bangers.

Miller's remoaner mania blames neoliberaism, but omits Brussels similarity. She mouths nothing about the light touch City regulation that aided the 2008 crash. Nor that the Tories she hates prove now tipped to make way for more rightists. Tight Labour spending dooms Brexit.

He’s correct but bet your bottom people lined up outside Windsor to watch it all unfold and ‘watch’ the king greet the EU lass. Bet there was a crowd of Brits outside the palace walls.

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Which will make it more successful and more prosperous than without it, with their people generally better off in every department.

This man is a stuck record.

The DUP’s actions make it ever clearer that they are only interested in saying no to the new agreement to avoid being subject to Sinn Fein leadership in Stormont. They could be given what they wanted & they’d still say no. Their recalcitrance makes a united Ireland inevitable.

Can we all have a new deal please?

KirstyWark He’s right.

KirstyWark the millionaires and billionaires control US lawmakers.

KirstyWark Bernie is right, Gates maybe the exception that proves the rule.

vicderbyshire

KirstyWark All we are seeing here is the poor propping up the rich and being allowed to do that unchallenged

KirstyWark

KirstyWark Its a terrible myth that billionaires arent socialists and that lobbying political parties and politicians with large amounts of money can influence policy in your favour

KirstyWark 100% correct.

KirstyWark BernieIsRight

KirstyWark Pot, Kettle, Black…

KirstyWark All rule is elite rule. There is no other kind. (Michelen Tyres)

KirstyWark garyseconomics Have a listen to this, it's interesting.

KirstyWark Best President America never had.

KirstyWark Says a rich man

KirstyWark BernieSanders is the finest President America never had.

KirstyWark Defend billionares really?

KirstyWark Bernie Sanders Net Worth $3 Million Bernie made $880,000 in royalties from his books. He also received a $795,000 book advance in 2016. Bernie and his wife made around $240,000 yearly before 2016. In 2017, their adjusted gross income was $1,131,925.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

KirstyWark BernieSanders is correct.

vicderbyshire Thanks for the advance notice will give that a miss

KirstyWark Of course he’s right. We’ve swum in the excesses of capitalism for so long that we’ve forgotten it’s a construct rather some sort of natural phenomenon innate to our environment. Nurses aren’t worth a tiny fraction of a tech mogul by any moral yardstick. Human worth isnt monetary

KirstyWark Waste of time. These people all say alot but move in the same circles. Impossible for them to redistribute wealth as they're in a global financial system that is not tied to one nation state. They should be honest to their supporters.

KirstyWark He’s not wrong is he!

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I'm sorry, but her religious beliefs inform her political beliefs, so they are one & the same, so they are one & the same. She has been talking about them in that context as well.

Kate Forbes: I shouldn't be criticized for my policies because they are also my personal beliefs. And when I say that I will use my position and my power as an MSP to vote to strip these pesky gays of their rights then you should praise me for my honesty and my religious views..

francis_scarr Great report

francis_scarr nice coat is a Russian brand? or caught in the satanic west? because if it were 2 you have to burn it and burn everything it has touched because the sacred scriptures say so

francis_scarr The more people listen to Putin, the less they have a clue as to what is actually going on. The number of Russian dead bodies coming back to Russia give a more accurate picture from which Russians cannot hide, as I note here

Isn’t a focus on Forbes’ policies exactly what happened ?

francis_scarr Celebrating the 1-year anniversary of his 3-day war. What a loser.

Surely if our faith is true faith it should be impacting our politics.

That was quite funny.

Jim Sillars a dinosaur who’s not been in politics for decades after being kicked out by the voters

francis_scarr NATION OF SLAVES 😱

Have to say, Peston was far more informative on the issues of the day than you were tonight.

francis_scarr

A truly religious person must follow the tenets of their faith into their future decisions. For good or I’ll. Most religions are not progressive or democratic.

Jim Sillars, what sense in everything he said tonight.

francis_scarr This hugging by Mario Paul children video should be part of American high School education, with a full explanation of all the implications of the scene. We really need to be educating our population about what cynicism is, and how it's wielded against us in Russian propaganDeath

francis_scarr That is his DOUBLE, right

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francis_scarr What Sarmat doing?

I’ll tell you one thing if I was to win the lottery I would take the Premier League to court! they call themselves the English Premier League and ad A big majority of the people playing in the Premier League are aliens is that breaking the trade descriptions act !!!

Government interference will mean suspension by FIFA.

Obscene cash for clubs, players, coaches and agents ruined a beautiful game. Premier League winners confined to the richest owners corrupt whole communities. Fans put success above funders' human right abuse. No party displays the morals needed for radical change. Greed triumphs.

A lot of tax going amiss so treasury might be on to a nice earner EnglishFootball Newsnight

IMF's geopolitically motivated ill practice has shamed itself and harmed its integrity.

The rouble is soaring and they have a shit tonne of gas. I suspect they'll be fine.

China may want this, but whether they can materially affect the war is another question. If they provide lethal aid to Russia, they risk their trade with the west, and that would be very bad for China.

We need to put an end to our reliance on cheap Chinese goods. Nearly everything we buy is ether made in China, or has components that were made there. We are to blame for it's rising wealth and power.

Sick and tired of only one side of argument, get some more balance in your guests ffs.

So do we in West have a view on this? Are we allowing economic trade dependencies to develop that we will live to regret, especially in tech?

Wonder what rations are like for Ukrainian frontline troops?

faisalislam What about Brexit?

Shame on you BBC for fueling this circus.

Why does any of it need to be public? The whole thing could have been conducted privately.

Well said. Taking from someone that which is so personal whilst in the shock of early grief only adds to the painful process of losing a loved one in circumstances no one is ever prepared for.

Yes I can see this but... the lines of enquiry and stories were fuelled by the public. Media is now getting content from strangers on the internet. Awful situation to bring this clearly into view. No excuse not to have remained factual.

Ive been a journo for 40 years. Its nothing to do with right or wrong, its getting the headline the bosses love and gets rewarded. No different to coppers.

In essence, 'Journalists behave badly if we don't get what we want from the police'. What is the point in an interview with an investigating officer? 'So, what would you usually be doing on a Sunday?'

vicderbyshire Getting rid of Burley must be a priority.

And as a reminder of the State of Policing due to Tory Hov cuts !⤵️

Every year the Lancs police deal with 5000 missing persons cases. In most cases they know exactly what has happened. The police stated very plainly what they believed happened and the press refused point blank to accept the very polite answer offered.

Can everyone stop saying Ghoulish please ? It’s rather cringy…that would be nice.

Disgraceful

Did vicderbyshire really say that as journalists we know what’s right/wrong? Yet the family’s statement suggested very much otherwise. Or was it simply BBC journalists she was referring to.

HCH_Hill Except that's not what he said at all 🤔

Suggest you find another career that doesn’t involve helping trans people.

So 62% turnout, 31% of voters are DUP and only 41% of them want to remove the protocol? That 7.9% of the electorate of NI.

A minority within a minority. The rest of the UK can not allow itself, in terms of its international relations and trade arrangements, to be held to ransom by such a miniscule section of the British population.

The ERG a don’t matter now that Labour will lend support and the DUP need to reconsider their relevance if they keep saying no to essentially having the best of both worlds

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Can't look the other way anymore?

Yeh cos basing deals on the DUP and ERG has worked so well for the UK so far 🤦🏽‍♂️ selfdestruction

So 59% of unionists don't support removal. That surely is the more important statistic. If the DUP represent unionists then they are not listening at all.

By that reckoning, a fairly sizeable 48% of the entire UK wanted to stay in the UK and never wanted the need for a protocol in the first place.

The obvious answer is Soft Brexit surely?

Why not 100% ?

The protocol is solely to placate Brussels. It has no value to Northern Ireland it the Irish republic. The question is how does the Irish Republic explain that to Brussels.

Trouble is, nobody this side of the water, knows anything about it. And really doesn’t give a fuck. All we know is Brexit has fucked us all, Irish,English, Welsh, Scottish or European.

I thought it was done? 🤡

I’m no mathematician but what about the 59% of unionists? Or more to the point the 70% of the community who want to keep the protocol.

Another superb mark urban show

99% of them don't actually understand the protocol at all. NI once again held hostage by loyalist headbangers. Newsnight

Proof positive of the total clown country that is the UK

Such a pity there isn’t any kind of landing zone for the rest of us to spare us the disaster of Brexit.

MarkUrban01 Thanks MarkUrban01 for great report on last night on 2 million 155mm shells fired by Ukraine with another 1 million needed for the next phase of the fighting. Disgrace that Europe hasn’t months ago hugely stepped up production of 155mm shells & weapons

MatthewGreenf11 Most of these kids would be gay if left alone. Near 100% go onto cross sex hormones. Males will have stunted genitalia and unlikely to be able to orgasm. This is a medical atrocity happening in plain sight.

We're transitioning children for the 'crime' of nonconformity, which is directly linked to same sex attraction in adulthood. The large majority of kids referred to gender clinics are gay/lez/bi youth & they don't require harmful sterilizing medications or surgeries!

The BBC's crusade to demonise Trans people is such a waste of licence payers money.

Ive a message for the bbc and politico pr spinsters who seem baffled; humans have in the main two sub species, one with xx chromosomes and the other with xy chromosomes. We all know what each is called.

This never happened according to TRA keyboard warriors

Nonsense!

Aye in the Spanish league, kicking another can down the road !

When i watch newsnight these days its to find out the latest lies. What not to believe night.

It is up to 🇷🇸 Serbia who they support.

I would use it as toilet paper!

Is that a Gavrilo Princip t-shirt?

No Serbia in the EU

Well. The responses to this tweet are interesting.

Incredibly worrying. This is shaping up to be something much more.

A few NATO air strikes and there will be order again for 20 years

Putin loves meat in a cone Newsnight

The Serbs most famous day is celebrating a crushing defeat, so its not a shock to see them backing another one

Nicola Sturgeon will enjoy the mega expenses in the EU and no scrutiny by the public as they're not allowed to see how much MEP's receive, so much for transparency Newsnight

Aaaahhh Billy Bunter now rolled out to talk about her pal .. How sweet 🤡

Is that when you get banged up in a French prison awaiting extradition

Business as usual. The Unions days are numbered and the Tory has been the main cause!

BenChu_ English commentators spewing about Scottish independence says it all,desperate stuff,and no mention that Scotland is having Brexit imposed on it by English voters,same as the North of Ireland.

NicolaSturgeon of course she has, she is one of the most brilliant politicians not only in the UK, but the world. We in Scotland have been lucky to have her as FM.

She's been a disaster for women and an even bigger one for Scotland!

🤣🤣🤣 Nice try!

Which face is Douglas Ross wearing today?

Odious little soulless Tory man. An embarrassment to the human race.

BenChu_ BenChu_ lol must do better. Some very very dodgy assumptions made. Some misleading statements made. Altogether the weakest analysis I think I've ever seen you put out. Wonder why that could be....

Menopause pure and simple. How many 52yr old women disappear from the workplace . Can we now take it seriously.?

Most popular of 2?

BenChu_ Are the economic graphs based on us just selling 'see you Jimmy' wigs to tourists. Or do they take into account our entrepreneurial skills, or our research and development, our resourcefulness, and our total commitment to make it work through our endeavours?

Celtic fans summed him up

BenChu_ Pish

BenChu_ Quite astonishing that the newly expanded oil fields that currently support the entire UK would only result in an impoverished independent Scotland.🤔

A weak politician who brings nothing meaningful to the political landscape. Classless.

Douglas Ross reveals himself to be an ungracious small minded individual. Who knew?

And the Green Brigade have a very apt description for Douglas Ross

sima_kotecha How the F is this ok?

Does Sarwar really expect Sir Starmer to okay the abolition of the House of Lords

How does Douglas4Moray theSNP stand there criticising one of Scotland's strongest FMs ever when his corrupt ERGToryUkipParty has nothing to offer apart from scandal after scandal of corruption & sleaze?! ToryCriminalsUnfitToGovern RussiaReport

Evidently he like the rest of the Tory party aren’t fit to hold a candle to Sturgeon No class, no integrity, no decency Conniving and duplicitous And dense

Unbelievable What a horrible mealy mouthed man Playing politics To have the bare faced cheek to whine about services when you consider what his party has done to services in English In England NOTHING works! Scots have had some protection BECAUSE of Sturgeon Pathetic man

These vile leaders cannot capitalize on the massive vacuum created by Sturgeon’s departure . SNP need a charismatic leader now to seal the deal someone with wisdom but youth and vitality to counter the disgusting Tory brand

BenChu_ This framing is fighting the last war. No point comparing indy1 & indy2 like for like because of Brexit. Oil no longer a growth opp either, but renewables, afforestation & offsetting much bigger opp. Also, pathway to EU membership represents major funding opp once back in.

Hopefully not him

Whereas he was spineless with Johnson. Utterly spineless.

BenChu_ Indy like Brexit means leaving a greater union/single internal market.. Indy *unlike* Brexit would mean joining a far bigger greater union/single internal market. (with far greater levels of independent policies than when in its smaller union)

Sturgeon’s politics diminished the U.K. whilst doing little if anything for Scotland

sima_kotecha David Kennedy’s comments were Insulting and makes victims / survivors feel that the concerns and experiences they have don’t matter and a waste of tax payers money 😡 I beg to differ and wonder what the public actually feel about that .

BBCWorld Comment interpréter non seulement le silence mais aussi l'absence de geste de la part de la RDC face au seisme qui a ravagé la Turquie, son fournisseur d'armes ?

sima_kotecha What about politicians?

BBCWorld 👍🏼

sima_kotecha On other words, no Scottish police officer ever gets tried or punished.

sima_kotecha Plod Mafia !

sima_kotecha Sturgeon again.

sima_kotecha Obviously that needs to change, criminal behaviour doesn’t end when they take their uniforms off & I expect they still receive full pensions whilst the victims get no closure & are left feeling yet again, they are unimportant.

Feeling sad for the people of Turkey and Syria 😞

sima_kotecha Ridiculous

BBCWorld The bigger story may be the parentless children abducted and used for alleged terrorism, slavery and sexual abuse. What is being done about that?

BBCWorld were they saved heartbreaking

Love will always rain 🙏🏾🥹❤️

BBCWorld Well did they survive? If so, that's good!

BBCWorld poor sweet babies 🥺

The 5 y/o Syrian girl Jinan who shielded her baby brother Abdullah with her arm have both been pulled out now. But Jinan's leg was seriously injured, “If the wound didn’t improve, we had to amputate the girl’s leg” said Dr al-Karrat. I pray her leg wound be healed soon.

BBCWorld fortunatly, those children are safe.

BBCWorld 😢😢

BBCWorld 😪😪😪

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BBCWorld Tell me they made it out safely, please.

Lift the sanctions on Syria?

Aaah the good old let's stick a camera in their face so we can capture their despair...get God on the phone 📞

BBCWorld Poor babies, the globalist should be completely ashamed they are monsters. Pure evil, I pray GOD destroys are enemies. Turkey didn’t agree with monsters and in my opinion all the lives taken were away to make them comply!Absolutely abhorrent ! We see you globalist we know evil!

Heartbreaking 😢

BBCWorld This is the new generation of children. We are broken people trying to heal traumatized children. This happened last time and it was the '90s babies in my generation that helped heal the traumatized people of my generation. Nobody really comprehended what it meant.

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BBCWorld Why do children suffer. 😰

BBCWorld 🙏

BBCWorld Praying 🙏

Jeff Flake, as in Flake that committed political suicide by trying to undermine President Trump? Lmfao 😂 so he got 'rewarded' for his treachery by the Biden regime with an Ambassadorial seat in Turkey? Lmfao it's safe to say Sweden & Finland aren't entering NATO anytime soon.🤡

Please tell me they got out safetly

Rebel = Al Qaeda. Your reporting is not truthful.

How can you allow such shit to be associated with the BBC - just the language one would expect from a terrorist group, scripted by the USA and funded by the UK and Eu too

Mohamed Bashir is an animal…. Him and all those with the same barbaric views are total scum.

Why weren't Mr. mohamed bashir's last words translated at the end ? The segment just ended. It would have given a different impression. There was not enough focus on the logistics of getting aid into areas not under the control of the alouite regime. The reasoning.

He's Al Nusra. Everything he says is a lie.

What is the point in asking Jonathan Dimbleby to give his opinion on whether Richard Sharp should resign if Ms Wark constantly interrupts, ineptly plays devil’s advocate and leaves us viewers irritated because we want to hear his valuable opinion?

Liar Liar pants on 🔥. Where do you people find these clowns?Some of us are old enough to remember when Western media outlets were pushing the Propaganda that Saddam's soldiers were strangling babies in their incubators. Don't you ever get tired of pushing the same old same old?

to my knowledge, you have never even admitted such a government even exists, now you are hectoring them

BenChu_ When they should be using for higher wages.... If people can't afford what they need then the wages are too low. Conservatives can't say wages are fine then hand out vouchers, clearly they aren't if they are needed.

BenChu_ Blue wall vouchers to subsidise rising prices in reduced provision, save for allowing cuts to children’s safety. Same old.

MarkUrban01

BenChu_ Look a story about the heroes the pedo hunters

BenChu_ I don’t have kids so won’t be paying income taxes towards this - thank you. FireSafetyScandal NotJustCladding ToryCorruption LeaseholdersAreTaxpayers

BenChu_ Only SOME working families can access 30 hours - not all, many excluded bc they don't earn enough/their partner is studying etc. Only 20% of families in the bottom third for earnings qualify (with impacts on their kids as it's also early education)

BenChu_ A push towards more Crèche’s in office buildings is needed and I’m including government offices in this.

MarkUrban01 Heartbreaking. Tall buildings should not be built in countries where earthquakes are likely, the alternative is resilient tall buildings like the ones in Japan but they're very costly.

Erdogan doesn't really need an election, his a dictator.

BenChu_ The insistence on making women work till 67 has massively compounded this problem at one time many were able to look after the kids while patents went to work…. Is what happened in my and many colleagues households

BenChu_ Do they regret closing Sure Start centres now?! (Coalition Gov did didn't they?) michaelgove George_Osborne David_Cameron nickclegg EdwardJDavey libdemdaisy LaylaMoran lisanandy Jeremy_Hunt RachelReevesMP wesstreeting wesstreeting GillianKeegan bphillipsonMP

BenChu_ Yep, the Tories know good UKLabour policy when they see it.

BenChu_ BBC and the Tories... trashing a nation near to you

Probably in the same way that you decide millions suddenly need photo ID in the face of non existent fraud - gerrymandering and deliberate electoral fraud

katelamble Seen reports Turkish citizens pay an earthquake tax - not sure, but this money was to prepare for the inevitable, but this fund /allocation/planning is now being questioned

katelamble

'turning'

Fully agrees with IDS. There's a first time for everything

vicderbyshire Too busy getting planes ready for that halfwit zelensky

In quiet moments, Sometimes I wonder, Just how many einsteins and teslas have died in grinding subsistence poverty throughout human history ? What could they have offered us ?

Man up. Pathetic. Stop being such a snowflake.

pritchard_ellie vicderbyshire Probably should add that outside of Algeria no other country had even offered aid. Also the roads to border crossing from Turkeynare destroyed and Assad is.bombing the regions instead of thinking about aid. I think there have been some small promises have trickled in yesterday.

BBCPolitics Oh my God hard staring so traumatic. . Really?

Well said Ian - values matter when we want to protect marginalised people-

I’m sorry, but this is pathetic.

'micro aggressions' 'Post traumatic stress' These are adults in senior, well paid jobs.

Well he’s half right.

I personally don't think this is a good work environment but these people are such wimps.

Best thing he’s ever said

Beardie.

I think IDS claiming to be useful is stretching things a bit.

vicderbyshire Turning into?

Why does Lee Anderson spring to mind.

vicderbyshire Good to see the sterling effort Russia is putting into the Syria humanitarian earthquake support.

vicderbyshire Using a deadly disaster to promote Western propaganda against Assad. The white helmets are a notorious group funded by the usual regime change western governments.

vicderbyshire Most regretful

This civil servant cry-wanks himself to sleep every night

He makes me want to defend Raab. That must be a microaggression.

Heaven forbid if a war came…

What makes me think this pansy of a 'former civil servant' has never worked in the private sector.

What a load of crap - scrap the licence fee.

Garbage

BBCPolitics Saw trial of Dominic Raab on Newsnight. Two pieces of evidence against, including a coward behind an actor. A few remarks - some people think Raab is just professional, nothing about the Blob WFH doing nothing much. Jury meant to find him guilty. Shocking biased journalism.

He comes over as utterly pathetic, hard stares, micro-aggressions. It also sounds scripted. TBH it looks like a stitch-up from ultra-left liberal types who resent Raabs politics, they think it's right for them to sabotage him but can't say it openly.

Highlights the problems in the civil service. The SecState cannot sanction civil servants. The best change RishiSunak could make would be to treat the civil service like a government subcontractor. Ministers deal only with the Cabinet Secretary and hold them responsible.

This only proves that were these people put into other working environments, any trade for example, their world would shatter.

Not wishing to equate the two, but thank god Churchill wasn‘t removed from office in 1940 on account of his famously excessive demands on, and frequent rudeness to, his staff. Sure, they respected him & he could also be kind. Maybe in time Raab will generate that respect.

So bloody what?

PTSD………….what a bunch of fanny’s.

BBCPolitics It's been widely shared that Raab enjoys, reportedly, the 'imbalance of power'. That's as good a textbook definition of a bully as you could find. And of other unpleasant behaviours too, of course. The acquisition of power/authority purely to wield it over others is abhorrent.

This wouldn't be out of place in a new episode of Brasseye named 'The Office'. It's absurd.

Are you actually serious with this anonymous tittle tattle!

Britain conquered a quarter of land mass to establish an Empire and it all disintegrated as snivelling cowards like this man stole more and more power from democratically elected ministers. What a shame.

Absolute and utter rubbish. No wonder DefundTheBBC

So no actual evidence and we're just supposed to believe him? Nice to see have given up this pretence of impartiality and spreading what atm appears to be conspiracy theories, this person never filed a formal complaint

I love that they’re barely blurring a man with an incredibly recognisable head

BBCPolitics Bit dramatic

lmao

Hard Staring? Is that it? I hope he never has to sit through a paddington movie.

Actually embarrassed for this anonymous civil servant.

adamboultonTABB Stop whining it’s like that everyday in industry. This country has become too soft!

😂😂😂 really?.... is that it?

BBCPolitics Wow who is that guy! What a total wimp! He wouldn’t last 5 minutes in a real job!

Dude needs to try working in a busy kitchen

Congratulations for this brilliant expose of how spoiled and petty our senior mandarins are. If this is their mindset then they need more Dominic Raabs to cut through their BS.

BBCPolitics What a rotter Raab is, he bought coffee, damn him! He stares at people and wants to be the most important man in the room? He is the most important man in the room! He’s the SOS! This isn’t bullying, my wife does worse every single day!

What a load of wet-wipe blather. Don't tell me, Dominic Raab also didn't let you go to the toilet till playtime, and refused to let you play the tambourine in meetings. Bore off, it's yet more snowflakery and a waste of good stealth tax/licence fee money.

Dominic Saab just wanted civil servants to do their job. They should try the real world they would last seconds poor little things

BBCPolitics As this wimp is anonymous we don’t know what his story is. He could be a raging commie with an agenda or a fanatical Labour leftie with a grudge. Not to be believed. If he was that concerned he’d front up.

Pathetic!

Who the hell does he think he is? Paddington bear? Good grief.

adamboultonTABB Anonymous interviews when trashing someone’s career should not be allowed….what a cheap shot

BBC seething.

BBCPolitics Ohh boohoo, that nasty man stared at me! FFS, grow up!

Raising your voice and staring angrily isn't bullying. This sort of crap just muddies the water in regards of the wrongdoings he probably has committed.

Hahahaha Did you mean ‘Blue steel’?

adamboultonTABB I'm really not keen on Raab but what i'm hearing here doesn't constitute bullying. No where near. It might make him an unprofessional dick but it's not bullying. I was bullied for years at school - i know!

vicderbyshire She might think that but it’s Tory ideology to cut costs for businesses, the main cost is wages. Austerity was all about squeezing wages, shrinking the state and enriching companies and wealth. trussliz showed this. To grow a service economy you have to pay workers well.

vicderbyshire Nothing has grown under the Tories, other than billionaires' overseas bank balances.

vicderbyshire so as a public sector worker - do i not pay taxes then? thinking i will swiftly pen a letter to hmrc requesting 30 years of taxes back thank you very much! torytwat! GeneralElectionNow

vicderbyshire OMG. Look at him. FFS!

vicderbyshire Vic Derbyshire .just watched news night re met police i can tell you its rotten to the core the corruption goes right up to assistant commissioner.i was framed to cover up attempted murder of myself. Thats why these things are coming out now because the corruption is condoned

vicderbyshire How can you let someone away with such economic illiteracy? The Private Sector does not pay for the Public Sector .Money is created by the Govt /State by printing money and borrowing on the financial markets Taxes do not pay for current expenditure they pay for debt redemption

Sally Wainwright is scarily brilliant, and I, for one, am truly grateful to her for sharing her gift with all of us.

What a lovely woman

BBCOne Well done Sally ending was great thank you for wonderful series

outlanderfan_nl Wow. What a privilege to hear the inner thoughts of Sally, the genius creator/writer, and to discover the extraordinary input of Sarah Lancashire with that masterpiece of an ending. The most perfect drama that I will never ever forget 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻HappyValley

BBCiPlayer It was almost perfect 🤣 - I could’ve done with another episode. However the necessary resolution between Catherine and Tommy was courageous in that those two actors were given words to duel with instead of another violent confrontation. The exchange was spectacular TV Gold!! 👏🏽

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So grateful to the legend Sally Wainwright spiceyw for coming on again. HappyValley HappyValleyFinale Newsnight

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Victoria and Sally treasures truthtellers

Garbage TV. Watch 'Spiral' which BBC Four showed, beats ALL UK 'police' shows. newsnight

The writing, the acting, everything about Happy Valley was wonderful. I'm sorry its finished, well done to everyone involved ❤️

Good to see the writer in the spotlight for a change and although Sally Wainwright is hugely successful, her humility shines through.

She knows just how to get it right. Amazing writing. Hope she has something else in the pipeline. We need more Sallys and more Catherines

This is an example of the real legacy of the early Tony Warren Coronation St writing, and its strong female performers/characters, rather than the tripe being produced on CS now.

Happy Valley was convincing from start to end - standards of all involved were sky high - Sarah Lancashire, a Brilliant actor, Shone. Stay True to the production. Accept only awards from your Public & Peers. No elitist gongs!

'Demand is very difficult to manage' Tory fluffer & former A&E doctor Dr Kieran Mullan defends the gvt's handling of bungs, but says demand has increased substantially Newsnight |

Brilliant Sally Wainwright, a creative tour de force, incredibly unassuming and in possession of a good dose of stubborn but gentle Yorkshire grit

With an ageing population, people leaving the profession, a lack of investment in social care & the Govt closing the door on qualified individuals on our doorstep, 50k nurses is an arbitrary & insufficient number.. 🤷‍♂️

Totally out of his depth,spoke rubbish!!

Maybe because we have a extra 6 million people in the UK in last 15 year's with no Extra hospitals built to cover this while still having immigration at all time high .. money only matters if it goes to the right place which clearly doesn't happen..Inc massive waste in NHS

He managed to get out all his conservative briefed talking points. The problem is his points weren’t coherent

Why have all those union leaders have Irish surnames? I know most Irish people, and those of Irish Catholic ancestry, vote labour. But do they have to stick their political prejudices in our faces?

What else would she say?

vicderbyshire ToryMP just toeing the party line. Quite embarrassing really. ToriesDestroyingOurNHS ToriesDestroyingOurCountry ToryCriminalsUnfitToGovern

Former A&E doctor , blames customers for shortage of resources humbug ! The elephant in the room is that this shambles of a government expects efficiency savings without attempting any form of efficiency from its own mechanisms. Grow up Sunak, grow a pair find the savings.

vicderbyshire legend

Well this is embarrassing to watch. Utter gaslighting. Mullen’s disgust that Labour should have the audacity to suggest taxing ‘rich people’ more. Of course what he means is rich people don’t use the NHS…… no, they pay privately to literally jump the queue.

Who put a load of lies in one mouth to rattle it out non stop on our screens? Was this man really a doctor? If so was he made to leave because no one trusted him? It was so plain he was full of misinformation.

Just how, can a doctor, whatever his political stance, defend what the tories have done

Who would have thought that an increasingly old and unhealthy country would need an expanding budget...

Dr Mullan's view that the private sector pay for the NHS through taxes is misleading.Using that logic one can equally say that NHS employees taxes pay for services people in the private sector use. Or they pay for products in the private sector which keep their workers employed

AnnaCollinson Thank you for inviting me on to discuss the direction from Senior Presiding Judges on application for warrants. My conclusion was his direction was clear and right. Protection for vulnerable people and all in difficult climate of cost of living crisis. BBCNews BBCWomansHour

He went from working as an A&E doctor acting like a tosser Nice

Oh FFS! Doctor Mullan might be a doctor and ex-A&E but why in hells teeth did he go into the politics to discuss the business of neo-liberalism?

Suppose it's climate change all what is going on.

Germany spend £73 Billion more a year than our government- they want it to fail so they can privatise it. They have wasted billions and found money trees for the DUP in the past

ToryFail 2 answer any questions? Missed point! Amazed he didn’t tell us 🛒🤡🤥 built 40 hospitals (photo op in hi vis vest) even tho only 10 got planning consent & remind us of BrexitBenefits of £Ms for NHSuk NOT! Blame labour🤦‍♀️ 10+yrs austerity & paycuts🤦‍♂️🤮🦠 SaveNHS 💙❤️‍🩹

Demand? 😂😂 It's people not loaves of bread ha ha

God he’s vile glad he’s not my doctor

They’ve had 13 years ffs

AnnaCollinson Back in the 1980s the number of warrants being applied for increased massively. Most magistrates didn't even look at them and they were signed off by the court clerk. To avoid disconnecting vulnerable cases under the old code of practice, the option was to install ppms..

The demand increase has long been predicted. This is poor planning by the Government.

Not a fan of analogies but that was like a hole in one. 🤭

Bootlicker. No shame.

AnnaCollinson Now theyll just cut off their smart meter…

AnnaCollinson Since when do Magistrates have to bow down to Energy companies demands ? A bloody scandal and every household treated badly should receive financial compensation Newsnight

So much money wasted on BrexitDisaster

They had a two year holiday.

Typical conservative MP, I’m sure he doesn’t struggle on he’s large salary.

Get all the billions lost in PPEScandal and other such scandals back.

What utter guff from Kieran Mullan MP trying to drive a wedge between public and private sectors. We can all become patients and need nursing care which ever sector we work in. It's in everybody's interest that the nhsstrikes get sorted out ASAP LessWaffleMoreAction Newsnight

What an awfully incorrect, obfuscating and unreasonable man.

Private insurance is the way forward I’m afraid. All they’re doing is proving that.

Danny is part of a gov that has murdered hundreds of 1000’s of disabled people

This “a chatbot wrote our opening” era is getting tired

Well done 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

BBCPolitics Centrica must be a Tory donor

NED are for the insider, bet ordinary person like me will be rejected

BBCPolitics centricaplc - money grabbing greed ridden bastards

What is especially perverse about all this is that the energy cos should be considering supplier led eco4 flex energy efficiency measures for such customers. but no let's just go to the magistrates for a warrant.

What is especially perverse about all this is that the energy cos should be considering supplier led eco4 flex energy efficiency measures for such customers. but no let's just go to the magistrates for a warrant.

Hats off to thecountessdia refreshing to watch sexual art forms clearly defended against censorship. Why? Well porn saved my life (no understatement). How is covered in this thread👇

Horrified that Jenni Murray couldn’t even recognise that thecountessdia wasn’t one of her trafficked stereotypical sexworkers! This a good start to the wider public conversation that’s much needed on this.

BDSM porn is inhuman and it must be banned. A lot of it it’s about body shaming or it involves activities that are a danger to public health

Political corruption has become woven into the law court system. The civil service is now so deeply corrupted that it is happy to go along with this. Only dedicated individuals in the judiciary and the legal profession can expose what is happening here.defendthechildrenofthepoor

excellent story. albeit the magistracy is not a profession

I am sick and tired of prudes and puritans using kids as an excuse to control what everyone else can and can't do. I can think of something that harms kids and everyone else far more - poverty. Go and ban that.

The justice system is openly corrupt to the core GutterHumans

Well done to him. I think if energy companies are presenting in blocks, then deny in blocks, even if only one consumer in the block (might) fit the criteria of being vulnerable.

Beany_1 Who’s responsible for this change?

BBCNews

Welcome to Dystopia

Fast track forced mass disconnections. What a world we live in.

All government's care about is money, they don't give a damn about children accessing pornography, otherwise they'd of taking action by now Newsnight

Surely the courts wouldn't have made the decision themselves to block-approve applications. It makes you wonder if the approval came from higher up - Justice Secretary maybe? BBCnewsnight ask Buckland & Raab.

MarkUrban01 What a freak. All these goverment and media minions needs to be mobilized first to be obliterated by russia then we can all go home.

Porn is evil.

BBCPolitics Who decided on this change of procedure?

BBCPolitics Maybe legal aid would be a good idea? This isnt the only place where poor people are handed over to debt enforcers in bulk.

If this practice has been going on for over 25 years and politicians have known about the practice for over 25 years, why do they think that it is now morally and ethically wrong compared with the 25 years they didn't reason why is political capital and it might win some votes

MarkUrban01 There goes the warmongering again BBC.

Interesting listening to BBC this week shock questioning Energy bosses about their malpractices of forced prepayment meters. But on 5Dec22, the i newspaper confirmed,via FOI at MoJustice,half a million warrants ‘granted’ by often ‘obscure court process’.

It will come as no surprise to OFGEM and particularly their officials that suppliers like this. One view is that suppliers have Govt so far over a barrel when it comes to achieving net zero, they don’t want to upset them too much.

Interesting listening to BBC this week shock questioning Energy bosses about their malpractices of forced prepayment meters. But on 5Dec22, the i newspaper confirmed,via FOI at MoJustice,half a million warrants ‘granted’ by often ‘obscure court process’.

Every WEEK. SandraCantWait

This 500 patient's dying a week has already been told by the BBC on Jan 2nd Newsnight NHS

Yet MayorofLondon prioritises 4,000 estimated deaths from air polution v 26,000 through delays in people getting timely care.

The government doesnt give a rats backside about arts…they’ve spent the last years cutting it in schools and the public arena as well as in their brexit sham

Standards of probity in public office never been lower, mendacity and shady dealings typified by LEADERS of the Tory and Labour parties. Why is British press so eager to keep in office rather than expose self-seeking and corruption at the heart of Westminster?

Well that will be completely it for Oldham. It's already in such a poor state. The coliseum was somewhere to go when prices in Manchester are far too expensive. A local theatre that's seen so many well known actors and actresses cross the stage. And a place for all the community

The rich are on high enough income tax rates, it's all the loopholes they can use to avoid paying the correct amount that's the problem Newsnight

Nail on the head. That money has been stolen by the government and given to the super wealthy. Tax their wealth, get it back, pay for stuff. Easy.

Drag queens are culture now

CB not criticising govt there, instead going the ‘we‘ll have to look for individual sponsors’ route. So unrealistic. Bit of Tory friend there?

He thinks they should go after celebs including disgraced impresarios ‘as they would like to have their name on it’😂 How will this work if 💯’s of venues are going after such funding? How long will it take to get funders? And why should pervs get to rehabilitate themselves?

They managed to raise millions of pounds for RSC in Stratford-upon-Avon , and sorely, they could rise a few hundred thousand pounds until the end of the year and them raise few million to grantee its survival. Plazas theatre in Stockport raised a few million pounds years ago.

Another marxist slogan. The arts never existed before state funding.

'Arts'

davidgrossman With inflation teachers have had a bigger cut All ordinary people have This is whilst Tories pilfer our tax They evidently enter politics to impose their nasty dogma on us, enrich themselves at great cost to 🇬🇧They can t even govern competently Pathetic and vile Liars Swindlers

davidgrossman Sunak, Tories DON’T CARE about you or our kids They avoid the tax the rest of us pay defund schools NHS etc, grab juicy Govt contracts WE fund their lifestyles They DEFUND our kids’schools OUR TAX funds the priv schools THEIR kids go to 😡ENOUGH CORRUPTION

Most Economist are telling us the wage demands of the public sector will have little effect on Inflation as the main driver is High Energy Prices, So, why is an EAC member contradicting this. Is he just stoking the fire in Rishi’s favour to the Detriment of us all🤭😷

Like most of my tweety peers I’m no academic. I’m just an average Jo/e with some common sense who sees a commonality in that to solve the NHS crisis we need to fix Social Care & to avoid the inflation issue Sunak as Chancellor should have Frozen Energy Prices in March 2022🤭😷

😂😂😂😂Its PROFITS which is pushing up inflation …

Clearly a fascist

Wage aspirations in the private sector are far too high’ That's why we need to cut the pay by 15% for all the Government, junior Minsters, MPs & level top Civil Servants Once completed we can reopen the discussion on Wage aspirations in the private sector are far too high’

davidgrossman In a sense, yes. It has been decades since unions could flex their industrial muscles so this is symbolic, not just about further rewardi g very well paid people

But sunak has just said '... that inflation is nothing to do with domestic policy and is caused by external energy costs caused by the Ukraine war.' One of them is wrong.

davidgrossman All the money goes to Ukraine now. Sorry.

davidgrossman All the whiners with gold plated pensions paid for by the rest of us out by the look of it.

davidgrossman The public sector trying to hold the COLLAPSING private sector hostage to pay more taxes for the public sector. newsnight

Us greedy bastids, looking to be paid a decent wage.

Once again for those at the back - the rise in interest rates and inflation *preceded* any calls for pay increases.

Yet another meaningless opportunity for Tory appointees to give the Government the answers it wants regardless of the question.

‘Wage aspirations in private sector are far too high’ BOLLOCKS Sushil Wadhwani, if private sector wages are 'too high', the company collapses. Public sector just increase taxes on the private sector. UK interest rates SHOULD BE 10% years ago, 13+years raping savers. newsnight

So Tory aspiration for high wage low tax economy post Brexit is, as usual, total fantasy 🙈

Arent guests told to switch off their moby's?

End the row. Rejoin.

More pro-Brexit rubbish. Covid was temporary. Brexit is permanent.

There is no vision, there never was... It was always symbolic, an event. Sadly, we are now having to live with the consequences of the event. It angers me that Cameron seems to get away with criticism, when it all came about as he tried to secure his own position.

Awful. “More recent” migrant families stripping me of my European rights. Come see me Habib

It's about not eating ze bugs..

I feel so sorry for these hardworking business owners that are being punished because of the absolute stupidity and arrogance of Cameron. The Tories have ruined this country - we are divided, anti Europe in our dealings and drastically short of good people to train and employ.

£155,000 for a sick ideology.. Makes perfect sense!😂

Shut up Deborah

So destroy the lives of the young on purpose ? Wtfw

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Omg this individual is clearly not very well informed don’t know him but doesn’t sound to me like he is doing business in the real world - where we face delays , red tape border chaos to trade with our closest countries in EU

DeborahMeaden brexit 1. Stop paying £20 billion a year membership fees NET To earn £20 billion net UK businesses have to export and sell £200 billion + worth of goods to EU brexit is EXIT from extortion let's start there..lol 10DowningStreet

You can’t cure thick as mince!

Shameless grifter. How can the UK ever get a grip of itself when spivs like this get slots on prominent news progs?

End the row? It isn't going to happen.

The impact of Brexit on businesses continues to be felt. Sending support and hoping for a resolution that benefits all parties involved.

vicderbyshire Brexit : “Not as bad as a Global Pandemic”. 😐

what does that even mean ? « I don’t regret it cuz I’m thick as shit because I’m old and can’t read the room » what the hell does he mean by it’s a generational thing ? div

What an absolute weapon …ruined kids lives ….30 yrs of struggle

No you didn’t you’re making that up

The official website is still up. Click on 'Why Vote leave' and also 'Briefing Room' to see all the 'facts'.

It’s blind man’s bluff.

Oh oh oh

Stick your 'in 15/20 years' up your arse Sonny Jim

'It's a generational thing.' That translates to - f*** the current under 40s, I'm happy to ruin their entire lives to satisfy my xenophobia.

BenChu_ They have these 'up North' too.

BenChu_ Those robots are 'cool', lots of expensive parts to smash up and use for your own stuff.

The pressure to increase taxes came from the loss of revenue caused by Brexit. When will these people ever stop lying.

The Tories take from us They exploit us Incompetent corrupt They avoid tax but the rest of us pay and pay For WHAT? They have failed to provide miminum standards in the services Brits fund They’ve trashed them grabbing juicy contracts plus offshore avoidance Enough

BenChu_ Brexit is more than a major disappointment. It's a disaster that has cost the British public lots of money and made us an international laughing stock

BenChu_ To bogged down with Brexit to create pro business regulation. Ironic.

BenChu_ i see these a lot moving around they always make me smile seeing them rumbling along . They do sometimes take ages trying to cross a road and you feel they need a kind arm to help them cross ;-)

DOESN'T have the skills ! AND - In a high distinction office of - PRIME MINISTER - & Is just WINGING IT - OmyLord ✝️⛪ These are the ones dictating to poor when they have NO idea themselves & WEREN'T voted into office of which they hold & 'backstabber' to PM Johnson & others ?

BenChu_ Net Zero is an unachievable pipe dream.

This lady REALLY knows what she is talking about! She should do Labour's PMQ's!

RMCunliffe The problem is, nothing we here from the BBC can be taken seriously, even if the words on some occasions are reasonable. Propaganda outlet. DefundTheBBC

Modern Hindutvaland is highly deluded, not sustainable for majority of the billion invisibles there being fooled all time - it is a mafia state with old links to KGB and FSB and kompromats locked into business with Putinogentsia oligarchy which is same as Doval +10 grouping

Increase taxes on the rich and corporations

Describes Sunak as “a safe pair of hands”. Dammed by faint praise.... Sunak is in reality a lightweight, middle management personified. Newsnight FishiRishi ToryShambles

BenChu_ Since prevention is better than cure how much is HMGovt putting into CO2 Capture? I don't think theUK has given any thought at all about CO2 Recovery Would you believe it but the UK is so far behind countries like, for example Iceland 🇮🇸 UK is decades behind other countries

BenChu_ Independent peer Bilimoria and purported Labourite Cunliffe's view that the government lacks vision has a familiar ring. Focus groups reveal uncertainty about Starmer's politics. The claim from Turner's most annoying voice that he vies for Tory votes speaks volumes for vacuity.

Many viewers will find risible the boast made by Thomas-Symonds that Labour’s economic plan will “find the jobs of the future”. Millions have lost faith in the Tories. But the tight spending limits from Starmer and Reeves fill noone with optimism.

GeneralElections2023 loon con are pointless, can’t be trusted to get anything right so giving ideas total waste of time, they’re just about lining own pockets and lying to the public with their mindabuse bbclaurak ChrisMasonBBC RishiSunak 10DowningStreet theresa_may

BenChu_ It's the Tory deja vu! Promise everything, deliver nothing, blame someone else! Newsnight ToriesOut

BenChu_

28 billion a year. Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy batteries?

BenChu_ The cost of Brexit why can’t you just say it! It is so obvious from every figure you have presented!

Is she insinuating that Labour would increase taxes for an organisation that takes almost 50% of GDP?

I know someone going private for a hip replacement at the cost of £16k having rotted on NHS waiting lists since late 2019. He worked for 39 years and had a final salary of £60k. Wonders why he bothered - can't get healthcare, everything cut to the bone,potholed lunar roads etc.

So who's getting it? Somebody is.

BenChu_ One has to give Team Sunak credit and the targets are straightforward and achievable the plan must be to top their success with tax cuts in 2024 -then a chance to overturn the odds -if he wins then a good chance of being PM for some time

Brilliant! TheLawSociety should ban all lawyers, barristers, etc who engage in work with corrupted oligarchs and associates!

He could be viewed as comical if it wasn’t so serious.

lostindisco Does Scotland have any say in any of these changes, given the UK has over-site of changes made by Scottish Parliament which only relate to Scotland, and these most certainly will at some point, probably by the UKSC, be incorporated, subsumed, or massaged into UK law. 😏

Same day as Zahawi in the press for intimidating journalists with SLAPPS, a Tory MP saying they are also victims of said Libel laws, and blaming a Civil Servant for not picking up on a foreign sounding name... General Election please. get these clowns out. Oakham Melton

At least in the USA the truth will set you free.

The generals are the real culprits in Myanmar. They are the ones who should be locked up and prosecuted.

err no. The minister should have oversight of this. This is NOT the fault of the civil servants. This is the tory minister being so detached from their job that they let this through.

The law did change shortly after the Karpov case, which was in 2013. From 2014 - the Defamation Act provided much better defences to those accused of defamation precisely so that the UK would no longer be a soft touch for such claimants.

How much money did this guy make from Russia in the pre Putin days? Totally impartial!!

Hmmm sounded a bit dodgy on her interview I saw….🤷‍♀️🤷🏼‍♂️

Russia aren't worried about leopard 2 or Abrams tanks, they have hypersonic missiles that can take them out without any problems Avangard Ukraine Newsnight

Odd not to name the legal firms involved.

And so! tanks for Ukraine Their purpose? Inflict some hard pain Hurl some hard hell Upon Rus personnel Make them see that their cause is insane!

Neocons like the BBC love a good war..

bbcnews BBCWorld BBCHARDtalk stephensackur GordonBrown DMiliband MishalHusain BBCr4today FCDOGovUK

Unfortunately when we are all vaporized there will be no historians to reflect on this madness.

BenChu_ Another expert on newspeak? “driven by ideology rather than pragmatism”, Any agreement is, at least in part, led by the alignment of ideas. Methinks the ‘expert’ is means something else 🤔

“Labour supporting tax expert” 🤔 Tell me when you introduce your Chairman during interviews will he be called the “lifelong Tory donor, Boris arse wiper, Chairman of the BBC”

If you had access to a dictionary, you would stop using the word “independent” so imprecisely, How can Sunak ‘s adviser possibly produce an “independent” report if he knows that, whatever his conclusions, the PM can reject them? Independent?

Its blatantly obvious the threats were because he knew he was in the wrong and he wanted to silence the person, then he goes on sky and lies about it some more.

Was Dominic Grieve speaking from his home in France

I suppose his letter before action was a nicely timed example of a letter that falls within the purview of the ‘SLAPP’ (Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation) regime. It’s prodigious that some Government ministers simply cannot even keep up with their own policy making.

BenChu_ Absolutely abysmal reporting on your show tonight

Learnt it from the Russians.

What an odious, repulsive, entitled charlatan.

Is that the Marxist acolyte?

Another sacked has-been mouthing off

How can any balanced BBC programme feature two such swivel-eyed, anti-Brexit über-Remainers as Kerslake and Grieve discussing the fate of a Conservative minister? How is a so-called public service broadcaster allowed to get away with such a glaring lack of impartiality?

For context; Despite having the whip withdrawn, Mr Grieve said he remained a 'Conservative to my fingertips”

ToriesUnfitToGovern

Nadhim has to resign, end of! RishiSunak nadhimzahawi No other option other than NO Integrity & NO Accountability!

Is that anti-Brexit obsessive Lord Kerslake *and* die-in-the-wool EU-fanatic Grieve *both* on Newsnight? At the same time Good grief, BBC; you really have given up on any pretence of impartial broadcasting, haven't you...?

Thank you for spelling it out so clearly DominicGrieve1 and yes Zahawi must resign.

Is it because Zahawi sees himself as some sort of enforcer?

Ha ha

Tone deaf contributor

vicderbyshire 💔

vicderbyshire Tory bollocks

All chums together… TorySleaze

BenChu_ Didn’t Dowden have a special unit in no 10 to rig public appointments and ensure Torys, cronies got the posts? If Sharp sat in on the Director of News post is that why it was an ex GBNews guy who got the job? WHO can trust Bbcnews now? How far its fallen Make it pay to view

BenChu_ Sharp’s family fund a Tufton Street group - Taxpayers Alliance These groups with their political agenda cloak themselves in respectability as ‘think tanks’ Theyre not Theyre lobbyists Is it because of Sharp that PoliticsLive bbcqt join in the LIE about their provenance?

It is EXACTLY this kind of complacency which has allowed a group of politucally and financially corrupt individuals to take over the Tory party and run roughshod over acceptable standards in Govt Abroad they say WHAT has happened in the UK?=Corruption Govt? No an English mafia

another TORY/BBC circle jerk. Repulsive and insulting. GTTONow

TeachRainbow1

vicderbyshire They have no morals or integrity. It’s shocking how low they have gone in such a short time.

TheTrawlPodcast LordOfTheWeek

This one careless, another got a bit carried away; Tory government not very good at picking chancellors!

what bully Greenhalgh actually means is ... rejoice becuase you've got a TORY as chair ... and rejoice because you've got a TORY as chief exec

Well, I'm reassured.

Bbc reputation trashed Sharp is a mentor to Sunak, Tory donor Tory board his family funds a Tufton St lobby group -Taxpayers Alliance Best to improve standards confidence by its news,politics becoming a subscription channel Like the Met Break it up to clean it up Raise standards

So the PM is skint (STORY No?) is then put in touch via Sharp with a FOREIGN businessman who gives skint PM a loan (National security issues?) THEN said Sharp gets the top Bbc job he fancied 🤔A civil servant would be sacked for less Bbc? International JOKE Tory Board too 😡

A great plant !

He would say that wouldn’t he …

Bloke that thought Johnson buying water cannon a brilliant idea, got Lordship via Johnsn thinks Johnson appointing Sharp a brilliant idea? Knock me down with a Karcher power washer...

Sharp, when appointed said he wanted Bbc drama cleaned up Less anti Tory he said Less slimy Really ? After what we now know about him the Canadian and Johnson who needed a 800k loan (He was skint All those kids he has school fees Bills enormous!)

He should have declared his conflict of interests, but it is too late now. He must go.

Sharp, Gibb, Davie: three impartial conservatives.

😂

Just an instinct but that lords name say corruption to me - I'll have to look it up to remind me.

£800,000 loan obviously nothing of note to these guys

BenChu_ Because after he was appointed by Johnson he then took part in the appointment of the Head of News and Current Affairs role. This is apparently not usual. newsnight

Wonder why he's a Lord?🤣🤣

Lol! So much for BBC impartiality if this is Newsnight’s main take from that discussion!

BenChu_ reported that Sharp says he was “contacted by an old friend, Sam Blythe who wanted to assist Johnson with his financial pressures” Really? How would Sam Blyth know about Johnson needing a loan, unless it was Sharp who contacted Blyth & told him about it? GTTONow

BenChu_ 'Which I find interesting and surprising' Can of worms.

BenChu_ Tommy robinson, Quilliam, Boris Johnson, Dom Cummings, Nigel Farage, Danny Tommo, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Steve Bannon, Micheal Gove, Laura Keunsberg.. some of the main players.. many more

Is Lord Greenhalgh from Cumbria?

BenChu_

Did Nick just say that Sunak’s shit sails on?

Call Mystic Meg Hillier: wait for a high moral tone. The Labour politician who chairs the public accounts committee has much for which to account. The MP from private education sits for one of the UK's poorest areas Her party's refusal to tax the rich far more reeks hypocrisy.

Why is Kirsty Wark not using Dame Meg Hillier's title when addressing her, yet fawning over Lord Greenhalgh and addressing him as 'Lord'? Turned the telly off as your double standards are just as bad as the Government. BBCNewsnight

Vile jock bird

Just to clarify Nadhim Zahawi will be no part of an upcoming Labour Government!

vicderbyshire In my case the average age when people stop voting Tory is about 35!………

RashellTamina I'm surprised it's as young as 47.

Is he saying that senility sets in at 47 now or that people suddenly become cruel and heartless at that age?

NadhimZahawi multimillionaire surely has access to good tax advisors, lawyers, accountants. former Chancellor has been fined a penalty. BorisJohnson receives free holidays, accomodation, expensive redecorating funded by donor, a loan of £800k,wages & expenses! Bad budgeting?

Then the party better DIE!!! And good riddance bstrds

He’s screwed, lying bstrd

Why do Tories think the survival of their beloved Party is more important than actual policy to enhance our lives? They rate money more than humans

Could start by unis. Anyone who is not left leaning gets bullied.

Night night, you corrupt, insipid, vermin.

‘A policy deficit’ - he & his party have been deficient in many things - austerity - a deficit of lives; late reaction to COVID - deficit of lives; children- deficit of school food; elderly - deficit of heat and comfort; NHS - deficit of Drs & Nurses. 12yrs political choice

As ever,good words of wisdom Rebecca! OFFA in Hereford look forward to seeing you in April for your day of entertainment with the annual tax lecture.

Is that why your party's so 'woke'? Or is that for another reason?

Bring it on!

'The Conservative party will die if we don’t fix this.' Everyone else:

Great let it die for a long long time

The country is fkn burning and he's worried about the age of Tory voters? How bad does it have to get before they question if there politics works?

Imagining a world with no tories

'Bid down'..........

It’s called “Natural Selection”….

Childcare, housing, poor wages, high taxes, poor working hours(zero hours) etc and they wonder why young people are disenfranchised with them.

UK: A retirement home with nuclear weapons.

Your problem is that younger people don't want to vote for Tory lies and hate.

I’m 57 and my lifelong dream is to see the death of the Conservative Party

lol

That would be a dream come true

Tories will rinse every nursing home in the country instead of just making it easier for young people to buy a house and have a family. Bunch of wetwipe losers deserve to be electorally obliterated.

Hardly surprising when leading Tories like Smon Clarke have such rubbish policies!

One can only hope the Tory party does die out ,it’ll save the voter a lot of money and our social standards will improve.

The Tory Party deserves to be 6 foot under with a stake through its heart, in a lead lined coffin. Then it will never again wreak such suffering on the most disadvantaged in this country and, increasingly, those who *actually* serve the public good.

Absolutely right from SimonClarkeMP. The party is mining a diminishing seam of older capital controlling voters; whilst failing to deliver policies that appeal to NextGenTories. Renewal is desperately needed. Either now or post the GE in 2024

Tory party will die too much living in the present. Right to buy & not building any housing made a generation comfortable & wealthy without thinking of the ramifications. As the older generations dwindle & the younger ones come through they’ll remember the state of things

Don't threaten us with a good time

Before he/they engage with the impossible, might like to consider how they are alienating the older people too by reneging on promises on Care on protecting the pensioners with very modest means from pauperisation. Failure on these and the NHS nearly caused May to lose the 2017

Ain't democracy a bitch?

Cause young people don’t buy the shit ya selling. And good on them. Good riddance.

Simon Clarke thinks its 'a policy deficit' that younger people don't vote Tory. Nothing to do with waging war and marginalising so many sectors to divide the public

There will be parties in the street when this lot are humiliated.

Best news I've heard for a while. That party now filled with UKIP, BNP and other right wing rubbish

It is about what the Conservative Party values. As soon as they came into power child benefit was frozen, no longer universal and later removed for larger families. Add in tuition fee inflation and cutting EMA Pensioners got the triple lock. What does that say to younger people?

Even the young ones generally attend private school.

Is this why they are trying to prevent them from voting?

We can all hope it does, it rots, it decays into thin air!

SimonClarkMP, too late, people have already pulled the plug on your party of law breakers, liars, cheats, cronyism, corruption, etc.

The sooner it shuffles of this mortal coil the better for everyone. Speaking as a near 60 year old.

Green Bonds !!!

Let's hope so.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Let it die so that others can live peacefully.

His problem is the young Know his party only supports the Rich REDFRED

Looks like someone is worried they won't actually be able to earn £400k a year once he's booted out.

We need to give the vote to 16 year olds . This will finish the corrupt Tory party

Bye you dinosaurs. I am 54 and wouldnt vote for you with a gun to my head

SimonClarkeMP .....I've got two sons in their early 20's.... They can see you ....and they've got your Party sussed !!!!

👇👇👇👇👇🍿

'The Conservative party will die...' There's your soundbite.

I’m 66. I’ve voted for them all in my life, but never again will I vote for the Conservatives.

People are waking up to reality.

J_Scott_95 Leftist indoctrination at school and university needs addressing first and the Conservatives need to spend more time explaining how Conservatism works rather than pandering to the woke.

I'm 58 in May. I've never voted Tory - and I never will. Legacy of growing up in Thatcher's Britain.

I hope the Tory party vanishes never to return.

Die. Good.

'Tory funding shortfall ruining the NHS is £30billion a year and I can prove it'

SimonClarkeMP maybe accept you're unlikely to win the next election and spend the rest of this parliament doing things you think are good for the country - not pandering to people looking for votes and not getting anything done.

That’s exactly where this vile, putrid, corrupt party for the rich and stale deserves.

How about just stop lying?

Shutting down schools and universities for large parts of the last 3 years will have helped 🙈🤡

TomGiffard When I came here from USA, TomGiffard - Tories were open, European, kinder. Bourne warmed to Devolution. Lloyd Davies & Melding hinted at a new, Welsher, Toryism. Tories said I could own houses as an immigrant. I heard you. But now you talk mostly of hatred, AndrewRTDavies

vicderbyshire I'm in my 60s and have never voted for the criminal Conservatives and am not going to start now.

I'm well past that and still won't Tory

The Conservative Party will die faster when Tory MPs like Clarke tell nurses they need to budget better. And the death of the Conservative Party can’t come soon enough.

Clarke is a Middlesbrough MP. He's toast at the next election and deservedly so.

You have had 13 years of talking the talking and walking the walking and the country is fucked

vicderbyshire Gps don't give a f__k , my wife has battered them about getting a diagnosis and they just say it's that probably that, they don't give a shit. Probably 🤯🤮so many people dying of inadequate diagnosis.

Tory voters are on the way out. Brexit, sleaze and greed have all seen to that.

To late … already did 🤷‍♀️

they are fixing it, but making it hard for young people to vote

On the contrary: the longer his party are in power, the more left wing I get. By the time I’m 65 I’ll be leading a communist insurrection.

The average age of a criminal duty solicitor in England is 49. What is being done to address that problem?

I wonder how many of those sub-47 year old voters are underpaid nurses who supposedly can’t budget (according to this loon 🙄) At no point in that clip is there a scintilla of self-realisation, i.e. maybe it’s down to me 🤔 Here’s hoping this Tory party extinction is imminent.

His conduct seems to contradict his words

Too late imo. This next generation has seen you for what you are. Evidence is everywhere.

Fingers crossed they do die

I WILL NEVER VOTE TORY, EVER!

Good 👍

Excellent news, happy weekend

It deserves oblivion, SimonClarkeMP.

Watch BBC 2 at 10:30pm for the full report In the meantime, read nicholaswatt's analysis here:

While the likes of Putin are in charge of Russia, Germany should steer clear of Russia and do not rely on Russia in any way! I never liked InstituteGC embracing Putin when Putin became Russian PM, I could tell Putin would be the way he has turned out. Bundeskanzler

Davos/UN/WEF/EU Trilateral Commission Member 'Sir' Keir, another 'selected' Globalist put in place to replace the other 'selected' Globalist Sunak. The UK dies further with these Globalists. Labour and the Conservatives are not the UK's friend.

Stop avoiding condemning Brexit Keir_Starmer there’s a huge number of voters who see it for what it is. We can’t roll it back, but we can acknowledge how crap it is and find a better relationship with Europe and improve trade relations LabourParty

nicholaswatt My god, you could pick a random phone number from the NI phone book, call it and they would tell you this is fantasy land nonsense.

nicholaswatt OMG, BBC actually ran with that? No wonder the British public have a complete lack of basic knowledge concerning NI. Do they even know the DUP only represent approx 25% of the electorate here? DUP are not even the biggest political party in NI.

nicholaswatt Ludicrous Honestly This is pure fantasy

It looks like you're a traitor.

Lol 17.9 million votes lost in one go

WEF really And that's supposed to be a good thing? What have the WEF to do with any relationship with the EU? We have left. Get over it. Step away from the WEF ...... Now....

Keir Starmer hasn't learned a thing. The red wall still lies in a pile of rubble and now he thinks this stance will get him back in favour and power. He can have all the discussions he likes, trampling over British democracy - not a good look.

nicholaswatt Fuck me . The war criminal Blair who lied to the unionist community and handed the keys of the prison to sfira . What circus did you escape from?

nicholaswatt As a Northern Ireland Unionists I can confirm that Nicolas is talking ballix.

richardtgarland nicholaswatt

nicholaswatt Lol......what utter nonsense!!!!!

nicholaswatt Koko available

nicholaswatt In case the DUP haven't noticed; the Conservatives are in power and Blair has resigned.

nicholaswatt The same DUP who never signed up to the B/GFA & who still opposes it as confirmed by E Poots... I'm also old enough to remember when T Blair & others warned about the dangers of Brexit they were dismissed by the DUP/Brexiteers

nicholaswatt Ahahaha DUP getting desperate now if they're relying on Tony Blair to swoop in and save them 😂

nicholaswatt 😂😂😂

BenChu_ Why isn’t he in prison for tax fraud?

BenChu_ Plus he has previous for this sort of thinghe was mortified when he found out taxpayer was paying for heating his stables.of course he was because he got caught.but no doubt lessons learned and all that

BBCPolitics BenChu_ It has not been addressed at all arrogant little coward. Sunak. But if you don't now there Must be convictions under next government. And if not tie me kangaroo down court time. Bitches.

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BenChu_ If he has nothing to hide then tell the whole story, if he's nothing wrong hide why wouldn't he , tell the truth are any of them capable of that

BBCNews BenChu_ It’s not just our police that need vetting, the whole of our civil service needs a total audit of people and policy! Right from the top down!

BenChu_ Excellent analysis but to too few! The BBC assumes that if you are really interested then you will seek out these covert reports. Getting ANY proper global news is akin to an undercover mission.

BenChu_ It would be interesting to draw parallels with Lester Piggot. Why did he end up in jail when Zahawi wasn't even mentioned in the press until forced by social media?

snb19692 BenChu_ Yes- of course!

BenChu_ Lester Pigott & Boris Becker would disagree that the matter is closed or even answered. Do not let the tory thieves get away with it. They think this will go away, that we are goldfish and will forget. The UK public will not forget. ToryTaxEvasion ToryCorruption ToryFascists

BenChu_ He's very sorry about the whole incident

BBCNews BenChu_ Just how much wealth do these people have that they can 'forget' or 'overlook' a tax bill of 3.7M? What planet are they on?

BenChu_ The question that remains is, did the chancellor break the law and if he did, that crime must be addressed. Simply paying back the cash will not do! ToryScum ToriesOut197 GeneralElectionNow SupportTheStrikes SackSunak

BenChu_ Yes I have a question that 'remains'. When is this guy going to jail for a very, VERY Long time?

Marged_SFach BenChu_ Zahawi hasn’t commented and Sunak was too weak to respond directly during PMQs. Others have been prosecuted and jailed. No one is supposed to be above the law

Stueriley1946 BenChu_ Dishonest tories dishonesttories

BenChu_ It han’t been addressed at all. Far from it.

greg_herriett BenChu_

Sans_culottes89 BenChu_ Birds of a feather…….. the last nail perhaps in the Tory coffin?…. Ex Tory voter

BenChu_ If he wasn't a Tory politician would he be looking forward to time in HMP 🤔🤔🤔

BenChu_ So, clearly it's okay for the British public to pay their tradespeople cash in hand to avoid the VAT, eh Nadhim? We would merely be following the example set by our supposed role model - the Chancellor!

BenChu_ So what’s new have you found in your “investigation”? You just repeated the published news

nicholaswatt End the pretence. DUP are only going back to Stormont if pre-1972 Unionist Dominant Status prevails. Bring on Joint Rule.

BenChu_ Newsnight is watched by a fraction of the population. Why isn't this reported on the News at 6, or 9? Because the BBC is in the pocket of our far right government.

BBCNews BenChu_ Needs a piece by BBCRosAtkins tracing it all back and covering his lawyers' threats.

BenChu_ Good to see the been actually addressing this after numerous days of trying to just bury or totally ignore it . Still the question remains why this story hadn’t had airtime on a national news program airing at peak viewing times ? Or do we already know the answer ?

nicholaswatt Wut?

Waiting for a Tory MP to pass by, clearly none on the show that night.

BenChu_ Maybe RishiSunak knows he’s on very thin ice judging others on TaxEvasion TaxDodger NadhimZadhawi nadhimzahawi NadhimZahawi 10DowningStreet HouseofCommons

BenChu_ Blimey, better late than never, BBC. Run out of other news?

Wow Newsnight you really challenged this clown...........

BenChu_ Everything we are witnessing right now is the direct result of decades of unbridled, unchallenged corruption If we had press willing to tell the truth about the Establishment Tory and Labour party for the last 30 yrs,we wouldn't be in this mess Yet here we are

It's to check the comments made in the studio while they are 'off air'. Grounds for suspension, gardening leave, etc..

It's to check the comments made in the studio while they are 'off air'. Grounds for suspension, gardening leave, etc.. What's the name of the recently appointed Head of News?

Sub titles please. Is that why the presenter never challenged her on anything she claimed. The protocol hasn’t been fully implemented yet.

nicholaswatt Lol why would Blair bother to clean up a conservative mess

She forgot to say that the protocol hasn’t been fully implemented yet. We are still in grace periods. She wanted the full implementation not to long ago.

It seems no one had enough knowledge of the partially implemented NI Protocol to challenge moneillsf ridiculous suggestion that the NI Protocol is working. Every business sector (even those who have increased exports to EU) frequently raise concerns (see thread).

nicholaswatt It was Tony Blair who gave OTR letters & got royal pardons for IRA terrorists in dirty deals behind closed doors. Don’t know what unionist you’ve been talking to

Finally, some movement regarding the tax dodging ex-chancellor, the old con defence of he didn't break any laws isn't going to stand up when he's paying back £3m ToryCrooks

Power sharing at Stormont is dead. Constitutional change is needed where only a simple majority of assembly members is needed to elect a government. The only other alternative is the reunification of Ireland. SinnFein DUP

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Anybody else late with returns?

nicholaswatt Respected by the EU ?

Kirsty seemed to lose the plot halfway through this interview Sad PutHerOutToPasture

BenChu_ NewNight: Arh yes. THE question. I'd like Wark to not CIRCUMVENT the ACTUAL question: Zahawi's ruddy ((collaborative)) initiatives 2 abscond from paying taxes!!!!

BenChu_ Bent as a nine bob note that guy!

BenChu_ Of course!!! Paying money back is not the issue. It's the fact he has to in the first place, if he hadn't been caught etc implies a degree of tax evasion that is hypocritical at best and criminal at worst.

nicholaswatt Interesting stuff, Nick. Thank you

BenChu_

DrSimonAshworth BenChu_ Tories are now looting the public purse left,right, and centre as their steep descent from power appears inevitable.

I always switch over when kirsty is on

Is that the hotline from Robbie Gibb?

What is going on?

BBCPolitics It’s very deserved, given Labours toxic assault on the gov during a WW crisis. Constant personal abuse, smears, unfounded accusations & a campaign of misinformation.

Better lock up Boris then REDFREF

Anyone want to play 'Spot the happy outcomes for refugees, asylum seekers, and overseas nationals'? Happy for them and their progeny, not the rest of us, obvs.

vicderbyshire Bit late for that, luv.

Sadiq Khan ACCUSED Of Rigging Votes Over Net Zero what is the government doing about it

Problem is parliament wasn't ready for what Boris did and what his party continues to do. Any lies told at the dispatch box should demand full retraction or sanctions. Not in the hands of the speaker on a whim but set out in rules Oh, and a speaker that is impartial and has clout

KirstyWark 'Technology will do whatever people will it to do' is some woo woo..

Looking forward to Greenberg challenging Sue Ellen Cassiana Fernandes Braverman .... First about the name change, then the student vote rigging, then the NY Bar sanctions, then the blatant anti-Semitism to a Holocaust survivor ....

KirstyWark Novelty. Soon replaced by angry, replaced artists

KirstyWark Is this true? Holly Herndon did Proto in 2019

Tories do not listen, the party is important, the constituents aren't.

It shouldn’t be difficult; make them all subject to the same code that all Civil Servants have to adhere to.

BBCPolitics Undeserved? Is the man on crack?

He can start by looking at the tax dodging nadhimzahawi

Parliament's terrible reputation is fully deserved and the Parliamentary Standards Office is part of that problem, focusing on trivial investigations e.g. the use of Portcullis notepaper whilst refusing to look into substantive allegations.

More distraction techniques?

Conh RishiSunak

BBCPolitics Zahawi tax evasion is more serious(higher) than Prince Andrew. What was the outcome in both cases? Why is nobody paying any attention to Zahawi? I expect better reporting by the publicly funded and publicly owned BBC. Report unbiased news as per Royal Charter.

I do hope he's looking at lloyd_rm

BBCPolitics undeserved ? what planet is he on ? UnhingedTories Conservatives and the toxic leadership of UKLabour have both destroyed any sense of honour in uk politics

BBCPolitics So the answer is?

BBCPolitics Another biased person doing a job that should be done by someone with no political association, past or present.

BBCPolitics He can start wit NZ. Good luck with that!!!

OMFG

But she didn't swear and blame scousers for it?

‘The Never Never’ when I was a child referred to hire purchase. Now it more aptly refers to real wage growth.

now there is the simple truth truemagic68 elonmusk

Looking and sounding the part as ever shjfrench

Top effort!

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Anything but Zahawi the fraudster! Newsnight ToryCriminals

Why are the bbc not covering the Nadhim Zahawi tax fraud story

Why are the bbc not covering the Nadhim Zahawi tax fraud story

Why are the bbc not covering the Nadhim Zahawi tax fraud story

Ha

Shows you that Gary Lineker is part of the matrix! No news on tax dodging! These people that run the BBC are threat to humanity

shjfrench So that's buy not sell. Thank goodness amd let's pass it on to truemagic68. A happy New Year to all and all apiaries.

AccidentalP

The beeb are not journalists but propagandists. They will fill with any crap rather than the heavily censored Tory corruption. At least 3 huge cases reported elsewhere censored by the BBC.

Utter crap. Now I remember why I stopped watching Newsnight.

Porn sounds apt to BBC licence fund payers screwed by Gary Lineker's £1m pay. As a Jew and leftist, I found Daniel Greenberg aloof from Jewish morals. Public distrust for MPs reflects the expenses scandal, besides how all parties have killed living standards and vital services.

vicderbyshire No, it doesn’t look like that. It looks like some disingenuousness MP’s, including the PM are claiming that. But their claim doesn’t stand up to scrutiny

katelamble 'Cannabis is safer than alcohol' is a fact, yet could be seen as promoting illegality; so would the public be banned from making such statements due to this bill

So many missed opportunities

katelamble Lord Steve Bassam hired NSO surveillance & my mate agent Jackson to target me (when Truss had Pegasus). was ops room front, MI5 clocked them & watched everything. Bassam's hit failed so Patel had a go herself, all in front of her own MI5 HonestyRevolution

Met police not fit for purpose, time to liquidate the organisation and reform.

katelamble “Legal but harmful” Someone can fall into harming themselves or suffering mental anguish from all kinds of things, so expect this dangerous phrase to creep indefinitely OnlineSafetyBill newsnight

vicderbyshire I have two boys who are too young to surf the Internet or have smartphones. I'm dreading the day when they're old enough to access the Internet and all the horrors of the world it will unleash. I don't want them to see things they can never unsee, but they probably will. One day.

vicderbyshire Horrifying

vicderbyshire I remember there used to be a website called rotten dot com or something and I'd have people say to me, 'Oh you should see it, there are people with half their head missing' and stuff like that and I thought, 'Why the fuck would anyone look at that horrific shit?'

vicderbyshire We might have more confidence if the SNP didn't have form when it comes to legal device.

Was this the girl with her hand in the pensions till? Let me guess she’s Conservative

vicderbyshire Can you explain the EHRC guidance to service providers then, which says: 'Where someone has a gender recognition certificate they should be treated in their acquired gender for all purposes and therefore should not be excluded from single sex services'?

vicderbyshire It done that ? Quality 🤔

It had taken 6 years to finalize the bill what utter bull 💩from this 🇬🇧scum 👉ScotTories

A little reminder for viewers 👇🏽 Borders MSP Rachael Hamilton is facing a bill of more than £50,000 for falling foul of pension laws.

vicderbyshire Wow. The Union is certainly dead now.

vicderbyshire How did he get through all that vetting?

vicderbyshire The SNP couldn't run a raffle . This jabbering clown is a joke ... 😂 would be hilarious if not so serious.

This is not an SNP issue. The law is supported by every single party in the Scottish Parliament apart from the Conservatives. Oh, what! You are a conservative. Tidy up your doggy discoursive background, please.

vicderbyshire The only 'advice' the SNP took note of, was from the likes of the hideous Maggie Chapman they now bow down too like handmaidens... it's almost as if Chapman has something huge on Sturgeon.... Answers on a postcard.....

vicderbyshire Thank you for the respectful way you interviewed this wonderful father 🫂

MargaretHollin1 Did she speak up when she was in the Met? Was she prepared to lose her job over it? Too late now! Until the police & Unite speak up the conspiracy of silence stops action & defeats attempt at change by Govs & Home Secretaries!

vicderbyshire It doesn’t impact on the act. Those parts, which decree that anyone can specify only one gender to be admitted, as long as they have a justifiable reason. Is that not the very thing people are concerned about?

Unelected Tory MSP denies democracy and political will of the ScotParl DetestToryValues ScottishIndependence2023

Conservative MP.

End hetero-colonialism. You are not our masters.

vicderbyshire Maybe theUK govt legal advice is wrong? Why assume it is the scottish advice which is wrong? And not sure Victoria should be portraying Alister Jack's move as not political! Not known for going non political.

Lets hear what serving officers have to say about all being branded as rapists by the BBC and the Labour party.

vicderbyshire theSNP hasn't got anything right and it's always someone else's fault.

sima_kotecha The same culture that failed to fully investigate and convict all the criminals of PartyGate.

Fascinating that the kids interviewed by Victoria Derbyshire seemed quite shocked about the prospect of social media execs being sent to jail.

vicderbyshire Is the whole challenge thing perhaps aimed at keeping the ex-chancellors ropey tax affairs out of the headlines?

What an amazing contribution from PatsyeStevenson!

vicderbyshire What, like the advice Scotland got on joining this piss poor fucked-up Union? ScottishIndependence 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Well said. Let’s see some action, not just lip service - before more women and girls are sacrificed.

Some of it happened on her watch, surely, or am I missing something?

vicderbyshire I’m sure they will publish the advice, right? The way they published the advised on EU accession and independence?

And this government wants to give police officers MORE powers over the public?

The tone of reporting on this subject was all wrong. Rather than bang on about how Alister Jack has taken the best legal advice, ask why at no point did he or the PM object to the bill. Outrageous behaviour from the UK government, supported by the complicit BBC.

Shame you haven't reported on Zahawi or Braverman. I know, much going on. But isn't this a major threat to democracy?

Always former Police Officer's that talk it up, how about doing it when you're in the job, maybe these psychopaths would of been stopped DavidCarrick WayneCouzens Newsnight

Misleading. Whether you like the Bill or not it was supported by 32 MSPs that weren’t SNP.

sima_kotecha incompetence...that's the culture in the metpoliceuk

sima_kotecha Police's culture of impunity doesn't matter when it's meted out to blacks etc, until it bubbles up the food chain, so to speak...

Quite right for RishiSunak to intervene. Disastrous & ill thought through legislation that never should have got to parliament. theSNP choose to provoke & politicize this controversial matter for own political gain. It is about equality and the impact on the rights of others.

sima_kotecha Boris Johnson has repeatedly joked about the abuses by his own party members….this is tantamount to a sanction for those who would break the law & mistreat women…abysmal lack of leadership from the top…yet again

sima_kotecha I think that misogynist power hungry men are drawn to circles of endorsement. Betcha they're all masons too. Imagine having a nickname Bastard Dave and not being seen as a wrong un.

sima_kotecha Reflection of Tory Government. Immoral and corrupt. Explains why organised crime at the heart of Westminster is never investigated or MPs held accountable despite the obvious!

sima_kotecha Why don't you ask Patsy if she'd be happy for 'Bastard Dave' to self-id his way into a women's prison whilst she's there..?

Not only does uhbtrust not like answering questions, in my experience it regards itself as far above being questioned at all. They don't answer and if you try asking again they bring the heavies down on you - and destroy you.(Even if you're a patient.)

So whats the point of governors then.

Thought you were talking about Everton - then saw bottom of headline........

PreetKGillMP 🙏🙏

The University Hospitals Birmingham NHS Trust disputes the bullying culture allegations and says their overriding concern is patient safety

Don’t worry lovely Bill Gates has a plan🪲🕷️🦗🐞

China and India are both rich. Reduce the debt to Sri Lanka.

BenChu_ 'The group – including the Indian economist Jayati Ghosh, Thomas Piketty, the author of the bestselling book Capital, and Greece’s former finance minister Yannis Varoufakis ..

BenChu_ Socialism needed NOW across the globe commonpeopleasone

BenChu_ You lot at the Boys Bumming Club are all going to prison for treason, you scamdemic liars, you’ve killed potentially millions of people pushing the clot shot, you are the continuation of the Nazis, so yes the Covid vaccines are another holocaust

BenChu_ Nice little all expenses trip for Kirsty to Sri Lanka to conduct the most banal interviews. Like watching paint dry. Just gave up.

Curious that Newsnight says Soledar captured by Wagner group when Ukraine is contradicting that claim

vicderbyshire context was : She comes at you with a machete then it's the verbatim quote BaelshitBroadcastingComapny work

If he's a spy it's up to the Iranians how they deal with it, just like the American's did at Guantanamo turningpoint The War on Terror shows this Newsnight

vicderbyshire Michael is absolutely great here 👏 MenAtWork_MC

vicderbyshire I do slightly wonder what the fathers of the open-obsessed boys are like. What is the father of Andrew Tate and his brother thinking? How did he treat their mother? Who are their role models?

DrProudman also believes men are women if they say so - even convicted rapists. Go figure.

How can you platform somebody as overtly sexist/misandrist as Proudman?

We are all profiteering from his platforms because he is a philosopher and if I were he I would write a bestselling novel !- CP is trying to dictate to men and tell them what they must and mustn't watch on YouTube. I tell the public that they mustn't watch HER on YouTube!

Frau Proudmxn is the one who doubled down on Amber Heard being a 'victim'. Just for the reference.

This is why I don't pay the license fee

Aww but she’s besties with abusers like Amber Heard & that’s fine. She does love a good platform to push haterid towards men, well done for giving her that

Imagine if the genders were reversed? Oh yes cancelled. This woman is the same as Tate, just the other extreme of man hating.

A staggering lack of impartiality by the BBC as per usual

Can she evidence “many”

Strange how Proudman missed the culture of blatantly misandrist and anti white racism in UK academia. Out and proud academics.

Staggered that you would give this individual a platform - she is clearly sexist. Did you even read some of the rubbish she tweets?

CharlotteTheCharlatan is a con artist, AH lackey, abuse apologisy and a third rate lawyer with as much honesty as Trump. She's got no business waxing lyrical about Tate.

Doesn’t even come close to addressing the real issues to do with the rising popularity of Andrew Tate et al. Plus Charlotte Proudman is currently profiteering from his infamy. Get someone in who actually knows of what they speak on the subject.

this is the same barrister who thinks evidence in favour of males doesn’t count, this is the barrister with an anti-male agenda, this isn’t a credible expert at all. Do your research

vicderbyshire Criminal Lawyer Breaks Down NEW DETAILS About ANDREW TATE'S ARREST (CUSTODY FOR 30 DAYS & CHARGED):

vicderbyshire MarkUrban01 Surely it's been shown by russiam losses that tanks are no longer fit for modern battle, seems like the west want to dispose of there stock while they can, for a profit of course

DrProudman

vicderbyshire BBC indulging themselves in their student debating parallel universe again. Did you have the same debate after the infamous Jeremy Clarkson article?

She's basing it on Tate's popularity, so that's fair enough, right? 'Endemic' doesn't mean 'most'. Those of us who think Tate's output is for resentful saddos needn't worry she's talking about us, so no need to be insecure about it.

Endemic in Australia as well. 😥

DrProudman These DV stats are truly bad and need fixing. However, a man dies every 14 minutes in the US by suicide, many from the impacts of toxic, psychologically manipulative female partners. Men are flocking to ppl like Tate bc his msg is we don’t need to be ashamed of who we are anymore

Has she ever listened to the words in some rap songs which the BBC actually promote

MarkUrban01 Have always believed that any politician who votes for war and arms sales should do so the proviso a family member is automatically enlisted .. cannonfodder

Ok here we go with the men hating 🙄

vicderbyshire From your comments tonight it was clear that you were unable to provide a ‘balanced’ debate on Cobratate, given the young age of many of his followers and the late timing of the show. Perhaps JuliaHB1 could have provided some balance given her keen fondness of Tate? Newsnight

vicderbyshire Completely taken out of context. All you commenters are a bunch of jokers too. Go watch the full video where he goes about his response to a particular scenario. I'm never defending Tate. Also, I never believe the media, and always do my own research.

vicderbyshire Excellent response from Michael Conroy

vicderbyshire Some middle aged women too.

MarkUrban01 The US have been desperate to escalate this from the start.

vicderbyshire Hmmmm quotes out of context, without the obviously available footage yeah nothing to see here!

Ffs could the BBC not find anyone credible or relevant, the fake Doctor is a well known race baiter and racist, im surprised she is still getting work

This woman 🙄😏⬇️⬇️⬇️

Shame in you for continuing to give airtime to renowned racists such as Shola. At least challenge her on her views, and her family involvement in slave trading

vicderbyshire It’s their choice move on if your not happy

Foghorn Leghorn Mabongo doing the rounds and picking up an appearance fee. I guess it will pay her next gas bill

I haven't come across many people in my lifetime who I could say I hate, but she is one that defo boils my blood nasty racist bit.

unisontheunion vicderbyshire Professionals are leaving their jobs for well paid sales career. How fantastic! I know 13 members of a big family who has resigned from medical jobs to Sales because it pays better with no stress. Britain should think again. This is all down to BREXIT and this govt caused it. 😫

BBCJoeInwood UK military is infiltrated - that's why they support the terrorist coup by WEF Nazi RishiSunak and his terrorist mates. newsnight

BBCJoeInwood Brazilian politics is full of corruption just like here in the UK so looking forward to when this happens here TrackandTrace PPEContracts Medpro MPMConnectLtd SlushFunds Newsnight

She's VILE 🐀

vicderbyshire In what roles? This suggests all Sainsbury’s team members are in min starting salaries of £24k … are they going in as shelf fillers, till agents or management?

She is the racist, but tries to deflect her hate onto white people.

Activist ? Should that not if said Racist

Huh. A racist telling people what is and what isn't racist

Maybe she needs to look up the different definitions… it doesn’t meant used the reference to unconscious bias incorrectly though

This woman going to get found out one day. These people always do… the loudest, most aggressive types always have a skeleton somewhere. Will be fun when it happens 🍿

Trying to avoid Dr Shola and he racist trouble making is like walking blindfold down dog dirt alley and keeping my shoes clean

Still no apology for having sold millions of Africans into slavery in the new world...

That radical is the biggest racist on TV

There's nothing unconscious about Shola's bias and bigotry, that's for sure.

Mouth Almighty what an embarrassment she is.

'You are not born a racist. You are born into a racist society. And like anything else if you can learn it, you can unlearn it...

The BBC sometimes forego impartiality and journalistic standards to indulge in click bait interviews such as this one. Shola makes a living from racism. Shame on the BBC.

Her ancestors were actual slave traders 😂

Her “opinion” is worthless as shes a racist, as well you know

Don’t anyone tell her about heuristics !

Harry said at all times that there were comments in 'concern' about skin colour. Worry about skin colour is racist. He back tracks as he doesnt want to call his family racist. I'm sure if asked he wouldn't want to call his uncle a sex offender either. Doesn't change anything.

What a vile individual she is.

So racism is no longer conscious, it's no longer a choice, it's something you must be diagnosed with by someone who can see through your unconscious bias. I'm sure this will end well and without any problems whatsoever.

nicholaswatt Never expect the Tory's to be generous with wages and spending, it simple goes against their ideology.

By inviting such racist individuals (yes there are also black racist people) your helping to create unnecessary public animosity, please stop it!

I agree with SholaMos1 ✅️

BBCPolitics vicderbyshire Laughable comment. Yes, there will be roles in the Sainsbury’s management tiers that are in better pay than nurses but not the vast majority of roles.

She's the biggest racist on the planet! Apparently according to her Sushi Sunak is the wrong kind of Asian!

She’s not an activist, she’s a racist.

BBCPolitics vicderbyshire So Unison’s, Christina, you must be aware of the superfluous management positions in the NHS that should be shed to free up resources to Pay the Nurses. Inclusion Managers can’t repair broken bodies in A&E

vicderbyshire All they need to do is explain their working day! If I was working in a ward all day stinking of lodoform, having to change piss-soiled sheets and caring for hairy, old folks and their never ending moans and groans... I'd rather work in Sainsburys too.

BBCPolitics vicderbyshire Actually they should stand for Parliament under the Tory Party flag....

Absolute shame on you for platforming this divisive and shameless race baiter and grifter. Where is her apology to Susan Hussey and all the people that she called racist, now that even Prince Hazard himself has defended SH and said that the RF are not racist?

BBCPolitics vicderbyshire

Yeah... Totally disagree. We have all said the wrong thing by accident, not understanding the hurt our words might cause, the root of them being our backgrounds our cultures. Whatever the result. Racism as I understand it is knowing something is offensive and saying it anyway.

vicderbyshire Same in care. Costa pays more and has better hours. 15 hr + shifts are a normal in care now with an expectation that you hardly ever see you family and give up your Christmas's. Who wants that seriously for minimum wage

BBCPolitics vicderbyshire Has private health care demand increase? Should have move to private health care instead of Sainsbury's!

Can Newsnight get any worse ? I’ve gone from avid watcher to cringe spectator often switching off. Is cheap controversy now the daily feed ?

She is correct. When you grow up in an environment which necessitates navigating through racism, (even if only micro-aggresions), you become attuned to detecting multiple forms of racism against you or your kind whether academic terms such as 'unconscious bias' are used or not.

Is there some kind of group media obligation that this numpty has to be wheeled out every few months?

The people scolding everyone about unconscious bias are very consciously biased.

vicderbyshire AnnaCollinson This Winter of Growing Discontent profits no one except the Unions

Apart from one being 'conscious' and the other being 'unconscious'. One 'considered', the other a 'reflex'. One 'individually premeditated' and the other 'doxic/just how things are'. Dr Shola Mos-Shogbamimu makes a valid point only where the two are deliberately conflated.

vicderbyshire H actually said the words (after 2 years) that the royal family are not racist. Shola and her crew are talking babble now because they are trying to backtrack 2 years of hatred towards the RF

Are we all racists now Father Ted?

'Activist' - says it all. There is a big difference between them.

vicderbyshire She is great

If intent is irrelevant then murder and manslaughter are the same. But they're not. So what we learn is that racism means different things to different people. And yes this can be used as a get out of jail card, which can be wrong, but not necessarily as this woman says.

She’s wrong

vicderbyshire Lasted about 20 seconds into that

Meghan has conscious bias and decides what side to take to suit her bank balance and narrative. This guest is another grifter.

Is it gender neutral?!

The racist herself!

And of course she pulls out the race card.. typical of every time on the media with her

vicderbyshire Never answered the question. 'Are you losing support of the public?' and the answer I keep hearing is 'Yes'

vicderbyshire Good to see you have THE biggest racist in the country on the BBC. Keep stoking

'There's nothing unconscious about bias. It's very much conscious. It's in the subconscious of people waiting for the right circumstances to trigger it' Then it is unconscious, no? 🤔

Yawn

vicderbyshire Of course there is. Has she taken the training?

Many deprived black viewers must have related to unconscious bias or racism suffered by the megarich Sussexes. Like for the poor white working class, far more vital than choosing heating or eating. Pity the Cornwall rocket launched without all the royals inside for endless orbit.

The way this person tackles racism is akin to a bull in a china shop.Maybe if Dr Shola actually talked to people instead of ranting at them, she may get a better response. Some of the language she uses on social media appears racist..but l dont think she consciously knows it.🤔😉

Why is the BBC giving airtime to someone who thinks even Prince Harry isn't woke enough?

Did she say 'disingenerous ' or did I imaginate it. ?

More air time for the race baiters🙄🙄🙄

That other lad said there's no excuse for ignorance as their is plenty of information out there these days and then goes on to say the Windsors were at the forefront of slavery and colonialism! He should take his own advice and get stuck into some history.

'Unconscious bias' more phsyco babble, another made up meaningless phrase constructed to drive the Marxist agenda of division

Unconscious Bias cuts both ways, many times an innocent question is assumed as Biased by the listener when no BIAS was intended. It is very difficult for a non racist person to analyse what they are about to say against what that other person may consider to be racism.

Jesus shutupshola and shutupHarry blah blah blah

Very predictable I'm afraid....

vicderbyshire Nonsense.

Why do you invite this race baiter on?

What an absolute load of b0ll0x. Every soul walking the Earth is racist then. Listen to this garbage & it becomes self fulfilling w/ narratives spun to suit shallow arguments. Although a once man did say once ‘There’s a bit of a racist in everyone’. Maybe he was right after all

vicderbyshire She's right and then one of your Newsnight hacks normalises privatisation in a long diatribe about the spread of NHS private sector que jumping!!

vicderbyshire Looks like the has gone all racist against white people with their carefully chosen guests, what a time to be alive with the self destruction of a 'public' financed company!

nicholaswatt In other words, the Pay Revue Body decision was too early to take 14% inflation into account in last year's NHS pay settlement, and too late for this year. 'Head the Tories win, tails NHS staff lose!' NHSWorkersNeedAPayrise unisontheunion

vicderbyshire She is right but she should also clarify that nurses are paid much much more

vicderbyshire Sorry, but I don't believe a word of that.

AnnaCollinson Reasonably so..education like NHS ,railway workers provide essential duties for the smooth running of society..not speculators at the stock exchange..neither economist who use % mathematics to justify their say..or lawyers who are being paid on the hour for their opinions .

RoshanaMN nicholaswatt No idea why it is not down to employer and unions. Pay disputes

Why are you retweeting three-day old News? Is there nothing else going on in the UK right now?🤔

Everyone can see, he wants to make money at any cost and the media are giving him the oxygen

Just for once can we hear from an Immunologist? I have a strange feeling they may know something other than pure speculation.

Good work news night, a historian is exactly the sort of 'expert' we need to consult on matters of a worldwide virus. I mean who needs people that are actual specialists in their field eh.......

Nothing? The world was his oyster, he could have picked any career he wanted 🤷‍♀️ (well, within a range suited to his intellectual abilities)

Dear God, are we still on herd immunity fictions with no pushbacks from journalists? What is all this even for any more? Are you feeling informed, educated or entertained yet?

Harry got nothing? Heart bleeds for the poor sod.

The other not only gets nothing, but is prevented from getting anything except when allowed to by the senior family member who can pull the football away at any time.

What Harry actually said about Afghanistan. No bragging. Not at all.

Wasn't it changed when Charlotte was born? No more need for 2 sons just a constant line of succession

It's not just his brother standing in his way. He'll need to do something about the nieces and nephews.

Lock him up, at a psychiatric hospital! He's in danger.

Fairness and stopping the media abuse is what he wanted. Not privacy.

Or abolish the monarchy

Elite private school (white single sex) educated BBC news team invites on elite private school educated commentator who defends elite private school educated royal institution - no black person in the house(s)

faisalislam 👉 2 million deaths 👉 Millions more disabled 👉 Variants forever 👉Social support systems crumbling 👉Hedge funds making squillions, you callous bunch of Tufton deathcultists.

This is not news. This is not even yesterday's news. This is free publicity for Prince Harry. Banishment is not an option - he has already left! Interviewing a former magazine editor. Establishmentarianism? Hmm. 🤔

What crap.

Let’s go back to the past. We cld have a royal tournament.. he could joust for the crown… He is ridiculous. The crown is always accident of birth. It only came down his line bcos his greatgrandparents were reluctantly crowned.

Don’t be ridiculous…

What did Henry not get? He was fed, clothed, watered, educated, trained to earn a living in the military. Sheshe of all people should know that while we have hereditary monarchs, we will always have heirs and spares. She/Henry should google 'Richard of Cornwall'. A great spare.

This one is a good guy now…? 😂

katelamble Could these excess deaths be related to problems in the NHS? 🤔 Does public health policy impact individual health outcomes? 🤔 Can a public service deliver effective outcomes without the necessary resources? 🤔 Is privatizing public goods to benefit a few a sensible idea? 🤔

What is she proposing? Throne share?

AbolishTheMonarchy KingCharlesTheCruel

Gets nothing!!!!! Are you for real? Get rid of them altogether, expensive waste of money and his puerile, petulant behaviour proves that!!

Yup, it’s called monarchy

Has he heard of capitalism? That's how the whole country is run.

katelamble Another World Beating effort from the Conservative Government.

Rubbish - Harry did not get 'nothing'. He has a gilded and privileged life!

This is so f*cking dumb

I know some working class guys that really did have nothing, actually worse than nothing, and I don't recognise any of that in Harry's very privileged life.

The royal family exists only as a means to provide stably and consistently an individual monarch. It might sound harsh, but their one actual job is to provide issue. Necessarily, most of those will not become sovereign.

If that's nothing, I want nothing.

Following that logic, we would now have: King Charles III Queen Anne II King Andrew King Edward IX

katelamble Well yeah, the NHS were the No1 jabbers.

katelamble Obviously!

I’d take the nothing Harry got in a heartbeat.

How about a system where both get nothing?

Get's nothing? Really?

Of course it needs to be changed…y’know, like, removed. AbolishTheMonarchy

Nothing? Please may I be the next spare then!

AbolishTheMonarchy

katelamble Remember those lockdowns journalists pushed for? This is just one consequence. Own it.

I wouldn’t mind a slice of that nothingness.

Used to be a big fan KateWilliamsme, but this is nonsense on so many levels.

She has lost the plot. But clearly understands how to get a job at the BBC!

I am sorry, but didn't Princess Märtha Louise of Norway had to step down due to the clash between her royal and business life? Half-in, half-out doesn't work, not even in European Royaltys. Where will be their loyalty? To the crown or the money?

drivers called greedy for want a pay rise,TOC make millions in profits,shareholders get paid substantial dividends,leasing companies made over £5 million last year and this government subsidies them,Avanti west coast paid £6.5 mill for performance bonuse,but we’re the greedy ones

“Nothing” 😯

59k a year on average!!!!!

Oh for gods sake what a weird take !! Gets nothing 🤷‍♂️ Give your head a wobble !!

Just use the old Ottoman system. The heir gets to strangle all other claimants. Voilà - no more spares!

We could have a vote?

Easily the most pathetic argument in defence of Harry. Of all the things to sympathise with him, inheritance is not one of them…

The gutless witless Tory mouthpiece can't utter a single word against the nurses, even when prompted. Because the lack of a 'minimum service' in the NHS is wholly down to his party. Intrigued why you would be inconvenienced traveling by train to a 36 HR wait in hospital A&E!

No, it doesn’t ‘need to be changed’

Oh please, give it up for heavens sake. H is hardly struggling financially. Stop giving this airtime

Who cares? Give me a republic

I don’t care about this birth lottery winner soap opera.

Pre COVID train were full, I’d pretty much stand from Birmingham International to Euston. Full & expensive & now never running. You’ve just brought back validation to car ownership!

No mention of the duty to properly fund the service or make government provide a minimum level of service like actually do their jobs and work to solve the dispute.

Who cares

This is what I call a constructive debate, KateWilliamsme, Sean. cc JuliaHB1 thejamesmax JJAnisiobi IsabelWebster_ TiceRichard MichelleDewbs

How does he know………

Railway Nationalisation will safe plenty of money for better wages in accordance to inflation increase.

The railway needs to be nationalised, cheaper fare particularly for off peak spontaneous travel that will help many businesses who are depending on visitors on this island.

Why does Prince Harry think we should care? Many people have their own family conflicts from time to time. Harry should had enrolled on his father's The Prince's Trust' for work skills to enable him to make a proper independent living before leaving the UK.

Harry gets nothing... Apart from his multimillion $ Netflix cake to eat and none of the serious sacrifice or duty? Erm I'm not seeing the negatives for Harry, spill beans get paid millions, where as Wills has to hold true and steady no matter what. I know who has my respect!

How does he get nothing? 😂

Highest paid train drivers in Europe. They should wear masks at this point

I’d love a pay rise too - I’m self employed, any ideas how I get one? Unions need to get in the real world

The absolute gall of a man whose party has completely abdicated their responsibilities for more than a decade daring to lecture public sector workers.

The government can’t provide safe staffing levels as it is. So should they be fined or sacked from their jobs? As ever, this is projection & deflection from bad faith bastards.

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Shut up Dick!

AndyBurnhamGM wesstreeting where's Andy Street? So with this new striking rules can a 999 dialler, patient or tax payer sue the Government or NHS Trust for failing to meet a minimum service level when there is NO strike!!

Liar

We need to abolish the monarchy. Collect the money from their bank accounts and land and end this relentless deference and gossiping.

Funny how these wankers give a fuck about public services all of a sudden.

This is why he has to do it, these parasites write the narrative.

'There is a responsibility if you're providing a public service to consider your impact' Has anyone thought to mention this to the Prime Minister and his cabinet?

Does this apply to the government itself

Royal Peer for Propaganda🙄 with clearly his own one sided view of the gospel. Wonder does he sweat?

Just don't ask the government for the same from the NHS, do as they say, not as they do.

So the government is lying again… is RishiSunak a liar just like Johnson? So much for honesty, integrity and accountability.

If ever there was an oxymoron it’s the phrase “modern Monarchy” - can never be anything modern about an outdated system that attributes royal state privilege by virtue of birth - it’s utterly bonkers in 2023 that such shite even exists regardless of how cute Brits find it

More lefty twaddle 🤣🤣🤣

Always amusing when an historian talks about the Saxe Coburg Gothas as Royals lol .

BBCNewsnight: What is sad is the Country called GREAT BRITAIN and the need for everybody to come together in a TIME of crisis to steady the ship and bring interest, inflation down! Unions are betraying it with Strikes at this time and need to stop them?

Well this is awkward...

Indeed. They should both get real jobs

the spare is the better job. All the perks, no responsibility. And his entire importance (lol) is down to a hereditary monarchy....he's not wanting to be equal to everyone else....

The only way you change it is to scrap the monarchy. But the BBC doesn’t want to discuss that.

The heir and spare system needs to change Having a bloody royal family in a 21st Century democracy needs to change - it’s utterly utterly bonkers & has no place in a modern society whatsoever IMO. I mean do British people never step back & think WTF, it’s 2023 not 1323

They’re doomed! We saw the next PM in waiting making a rallying speech today

There's an old Scots word that best describes Mr Bowie, sleekit

What a Turd.

They’re accused of that cause they’re doing that.

faisalislam Growing relative to what benchmark? Now? 10 months time? 12months ago? Growth over what period? A brief upturn against consistent shrinkage or an extended, persistent growth

Note the language- 'won't be backing it'. They won't be opposing it. Look forward to another hard won abstention. What T-S says doesn't much matter, he has no clout.

If the Labour Party choose to abstain in the Tory vote to stop the right to strike. Then they're dead.

But Keir_Starmer sacked an Mp for being at a picket line hypocrite

If Labour really cared they should be out on the picket lines - might spoil their suits

Don’t think of it as an attack on the right to strike. Think of it as the re-introduction of Slavery.

Nick absolutely hitting the nail on the head. 👏

Centre for Policy Studies. Another IEA right-wing think tank terrorist group.

Is that reassuring, or not? Or will we really have to go back and form a political party from the ground up, that represents workers, and respects everyone's right to basic dignity?

How and why does a government that inflicted damage to it's own population by pushing to leave the European Union have a Trade Minister? There is no logic to having one. Brexit newsnight

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since he is in part responsible for some of the lies found in the Tory manifesto, I wouldn't be asking his opinion about the state of the nation, Social care reform, that was in there, how they had a ready made solution, they lied.

rcolville, Since when has 'It would be just too ridiculous' ever stopped the Tories from doing the ridiculous? What have they/you done since Brexit topped the ridiculous stakes that wasn't ridiculous? And are you still with the Centre for Policy Studies?

faisalislam So the conservatives 'CHOSE' not to grow the economy over the past 13 years!

Sunak would lead the Tories to obliteration which is why the remoaning MSM want him in place, they all know Boris would make it harder for Labour to win...

Why do you not challenge this Tory Goverment.

Another wee boy

How about your manifesto promises how have they done?

GreenWashing - Brexit IS WildCapitalism DisasterCapitalism ToryCriminalsUnfitToGovern are assets stripping the country ! NFUtweets SaveBritishFood Farmers gazumped by Private Equity Firms ! ⤵️ DailyMirror via ITVX

Tory commentators in 2022: 'It would be ridiculous to get rid of the leader at this time' Tory commentators later in 2022: 'It would be ridiculous to get rid of the leader at this time' Tory commentators in 2023: 'It would be ridiculous to get rid of the leader at this time'

SunakHasNoMandate ! GeneralElectionN0W !

Of course Labour won’t support it They’re not going to go against their paymasters

Stop telling people our NHS is Free! It’s not Free our taxes pay for it! Stop people taking advantage by taking from a pot they’ve not contributed too

He's not a leader he's a schoolboy and gas no mandate nor the balls to get one

They just can’t do it. Tories need to get to gaol

faisalislam Don’t worry AndrewBowie_MP , a career as a spiv awaits your departure as an MP at the next election.

Same point every year

faisalislam 13 years of under delivering will do that...

faisalislam Labour will lose GE if do!

sima_kotecha Ah yes; Leaving a beneficiary of the famously exploitative catering industry unchallenged on their anti-union rhetoric. Someone who is so uninformed he suggests the unions do something illegal, again unchallenged. Top journalism. Defo not government propaganda output.

sima_kotecha C...U...N...T

sima_kotecha What happened to Hugh Fearnley Whittinghall's hair?

sima_kotecha Why is the journalist not calling him out for applying all that vaseline to the camera lens to hide his wrinkles. BBC Newsnight used to pride itself in the quality of its journalism, now it lies in the gutter.

sima_kotecha Now ask someone relevant

sima_kotecha He’s alright seeing as the hospitality industry doesn’t have union representation

sima_kotecha This isn’t newsworthy, is it, BBC? And this brainbox is an insightful and interesting guest on Newsnight because…? Woeful.

sima_kotecha Potential customers could not get to his restaurant due to the strike action but had a FAR BETTER time at their local pub or a get together at home with their friends.

sima_kotecha I just kept looking at that thing round his neck. What is it?

sima_kotecha how much does that sum pay his workers? and what is his wage.

sima_kotecha David you seem to have missed the point of the strikes. The striking workers are trying to get a life by striking for better pay and conditions. Can't imagine why anyone would object to that unless they're completely out of touch? SupportTheStrikes UpTheWorkers

sima_kotecha Hospitality staff are difficult to acquire and keep at the moment. If he were to practice what he preaches, he'd be out of business.

sima_kotecha The next big story for to cover :

sima_kotecha 'Get a life... sack the lot’' Well that's a considered opinion - well done to whoever booked him.

sima_kotecha His ratner moment

sima_kotecha Ah the catering industry ( which I worked in for 30 years as a chef) famous for dreadful working conditions, unsociable hours and horrendously low pay.

sima_kotecha Not going to Pied a Terre now.

Tory political brodcast on behalf of Boris Bunter

sima_kotecha What a shame, I’ve really enjoyed my trips to Pied a Terre but never again. Just off to unsubscribe from mailing list. Sack the lot indeed.

sima_kotecha Why did you ‘interview’ him? I was trying to decide as I watched what expertise he brought to what should be a serious debate / discussion but there was none.

sima_kotecha There is a reason not to ever go to his restaurant

sima_kotecha Maybe strikers should book his overpriced restaurant, and just not show up. Flood him with fake bookings. Or show up. Eat. Refuse to pay. And walk out shouting “sack the lot!” Seems fair to me

sima_kotecha Maybe get Mick Lynch on Masterchef in the interests of balance to speak equally facile bollocks about something he knows nothing about

sima_kotecha Poncy bullshit food for mugs.

sima_kotecha I think that they're just tryingto get a life; that's the whole point!

sima_kotecha On to the ever growing 'Avoid' list.

sima_kotecha Empty threat from a hairless cook.

sima_kotecha Harry Hill just not funny any more.

sima_kotecha 'Get up. Go home. Get a life. I'm opposed to what you're doing.'

sima_kotecha How many of his customers use public transport to get to his restaurant? Not enough to make a significant impact on his revenues, but he's found time in his day to girn about the strikes.

sima_kotecha They need wages to have a life. SolidarityWithStrikes

sima_kotecha What a hideous person. And giving him a platform? Shame on you, yet again, BBCNews

sima_kotecha Hoping and praying he goes skint, does the lot in, horrible can’t.

sima_kotecha And wonders why it viewing figures have plummeted… political 🐂💩

sima_kotecha . I just hope on the strength of his stupid, crass and insensitive comments, striking RMT members don't spend the next year booking tables at his Pied à Terre restaurant and causing chaos for him and his staff. I mean that would be really, really awwwwwwful. . . . . . . .

Unfortunately to understand data your need a modicum of intelligence, so that rules out the current cabinet.

sima_kotecha Isn't this a bit like interviewing a florist about coal mining?

sima_kotecha sima_kotecha

Nice balanced panel 😂🤣😅

sima_kotecha How about all those in a union eat for free PiedaTerreUK

sima_kotecha What a total disgrace and a knob. Great journalism there BBC 🙄

sima_kotecha Get a life.. Sack the lot. What a great idea, ruin families lives up and down the country, as long as you're alright PiedaTerreUK

sima_kotecha Yeah that’ll work….🤦🏼‍♂️

What an awful programme tonight! I used to enjoy newsnight but this was a mindless programme with stupid predictions. What happened to intelligent debate and representing all sides of the argument? I have never felt further away from London and the Metropolitan elite.

sima_kotecha Cool. Who is he and why does the opinion of a bell end matter?

Oh dear , bit of a mess this evening! interviewees leaving their mics on... 😆

sima_kotecha Well PiedaTerreUK, I don't think that that interview is going to help you gain customers. (And by the way, it is illegal in the UK for train staff to not issue tickets or to not check them)

is this a parody ....? this is where the right wing take us ...get them to f^ck

sima_kotecha Why does he look like that?

sima_kotecha I recommend the wonderful Greek Cypriot restaurant Andreas in Charlotte Street for anyone offended by this guy’s comments ...

sima_kotecha Worked at a lot of nice restaurants in my life. Made a lot of people like David Moore a lot of money. Never made a decent living until I left the industry and joined a union.

sima_kotecha We wouldnt find any hair in our food if you were cooking! Scab.

How bloody awful for you. This crap was actually shown on BBC Newsnight. The fat bloke looked very embarrassed by his efforts and it went down from there.

sima_kotecha It’s no wonder this industry is struggling to recruit staff. Wouldn’t want to work in his outfit if I were a young commis chef or waiter.

sima_kotecha Is that how low Newsnight has sunk. Pathetic

sima_kotecha What sack the train staff or Conservative politicians ?

sima_kotecha Won’t someone please think of the Michelin star restaurateurs

You’ve officially lost the plot

sima_kotecha What a twonk.

So it seems ‘total lack of imagination’ is another thing to add to the list tory characteristics…

Tory voters will never understand that, try using crayons and colouring in pictures to explain the economy and political landscape of the UK.

sima_kotecha That’s just government propaganda

sima_kotecha sima_kotecha Why didn't you point out that revenue strike days are illegal in the UK? ..... Also note never to go to PiedaTerreUK with the management having those views ✔️

sima_kotecha Very poor tonight, embarrassing on so many levels and with a panel of three, all predicting the return of guess who Boris. What a world!!!

sima_kotecha Manchester man😎

sima_kotecha Why does the BBC News regard it as essential to arse-lick around right-wing reactionaries like this? If they aren’t sneeringly reviewing the papers they are indulged Clarkson-like to insult those unable to answer back.

It's quite obvious that the NATO treaty written just after world war two should be drastically updated too the 21st century, to include weaker countries, such as Ukraine and Taiwan being invaded by bigger more powerful countries. Without delay.

Robert Hutton said a lot in a short time! You might be interested in the preface of my book 'How to Have a Better Relationship with Anybody' (Moody Pub) about Eric Liddell in the movie Chariots of Fire, the 1924 Paris Olympics and an internment camp in China during World War 2.

good watch

Time to pull the plug... Ukrainian caused it's on problems with Russia ..so I say let THEM sort it themselves

But you can still get Botox anyhow lol

No the rest of the world has not adapted to your Soviet war brain's in Ukraine! We don't believe in war.

No we should not be paying Ukraine war lovers. Millions spent, while pensioners and not so well off people in the UK get nothing. But there is millions to hotel immigrants, and help Ukrainian who had been killing eachother since 2012 DISGUSTING. Putin is rite Ukrainian scum

A corrupt Police department in Hendersonville NC protected a child molester after he tried to kill me my life isn't ruins trying to go national with my story

WION reported that BBC produces Ads for Chinese propaganda channel. 😮 nytimes WSJ washingtonpost AP FoxNews EUNewsRadio Eunewsagency

A victim speaks out

Sorry, folks. But Dad bloke was a joke commentator.

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Shame you lot in the press haven’t pushed them before for policies. You’ve followed Labours lead & let them use the weakest excuse “we’re just their to oppose”. That leaves any Government UNFAIRLY exposed,& the people betrayed. We need to scrutinise Labours competence.

No they just have to find more honest journalists who show Tory corruption .Any ideas?

adamboultonTABB Superb

BenChu_ Cranking up the agenda of overturning brexit by the masters of the universe

This people would like to see some coherent policies coming from this government.

Sonia Sodha : 'You know, you know, kindov things, you know, you know, sortov examining, sortov acting, sortov win, you know, sortov go into, you know, you know.' Strewth! (We DON'T know which is why we tune in.... Or switch off!)

Sonia Sodha : 'You know, you know, kindov things, you know, you know, sortov examining, sortov acting, sortov win, you know, sortov go into, you know, you know.' Strewth! (We DON'T know which is why we tune in.... Or switch off!)

How much is she paid to tell us what we all knew?

And the B word has been mentioned brexit

BenChu_ Yet no one can give one example of a benefit from brexit. The PM lies about the vaccine, JRM thinks using an e gate is an answer to a benefit of brexit.

Torygraph spin for the offshore billionaire class. Signifying nothing. What would be really good would be a Tory policy that doesn't just continue to steal all our cash and transfer it to the non-doms in the Cayman Islands. Newsnight

arlloyd and if you ever wonder why we seldom hear of 'centrist mums' I had a go at explaining here:

How can a Tory leaning tissue paper try & force Labour to help the Tories? If you fail, your out! Simple! Labour policies need to be in the Manifesto, not in your tissue paper.

Hard to imagine someone being wrong more often in a 1 minute 36 second clip than Ms Sodha was here.

Daisybelll BenChu_ The Con governments had since 2016 to mitigate this....

Labour have real problems, working class round here hate them now so most will stay at home come GE. Labour seen as too woke and too soft who basically hate us and the UK.

nickabbotlbc Robert Hutton said tonight on Newsnight it 2022 been a victory for centrist dads. “We all knew Elon Musk was a muppet, we knew Johnson was a wrongun and crypto was a bunch of nonsense.”

BenChu_ The only thing to do is rejoin it's that simple

“Robert” who? “BB” what what?

Unfortunate voice…

Some truth in this but Labour no doubt also very happy to watch the Conservative Party self destruct

Prat!

This shower of a broadcaster has to go!

Says someone with very little substance to her words and hides behind vapid hand gesturing like a string puppet controlled by someone getting attacked by a swarm of wasps.

Labour can just paraphrase the Tory Brexit-loving, anti-immigration manifesto. Job done. They're not about policies, just one lousy set of personnel instead of another

So it’s Brexit that’s caused the unrest about the cost of living in EU counties & US & caused China’s economy to start crashing…really! This countries problems are caused by anti government media & leftwing Unions trying to undermine the country to their boy Starmers in to No10

‘The Telegraph Political Correspondent’ - lol

BenChu_ I tried sending a simple Christmas gift to a friend in Germany & was faced with customs codes, four impenetrable forms and a £17 charge to pay. Pre-Brexit: wrap it up, stick a stamp on it & send. Whether you’re an individual or a business, Brexit has made things far worse.

it's making 99.5% of people miserable so why?

BenChu_ Name an exporter that has benefitted from Brexit, it would be interesting to know how they benefit, and what they export.

PHowe_ BenChu_ I sell lighting. Danish companies have pulled out of the UK, as it’s too expensive to sell to us, & German ones have closed credit accounts & will only sell pro forma, as they think the UK is going bust. ToryBrexitDisaster

BenChu_ Its all nonsense. We are exporting £175bn more now than we were in 2016. GDP has outperformed France, Italy and Germany since 2016.

BenChu_ WTO would have been the solution

BenChu_ Surely not, just ask Jacob_Rees_Mogg

BenChu_ Wonder how the rest of the world deal with him. Possibly the TCA is even worse than non-deal countries have. God knows, seems strange.

BenChu_ We knew this in June 2016, though, didn't we. I wonder why the bbcnews never mentioned it

BenChu_ I am sure you could tell him what he is doing wrong Jacob_Rees_Mogg ?

BenChu_ this is my experience too both as a small business, and also a customer of products and services

BenChu_ Every single small business client I have bar one, who has a subsidiary in the EU have had their imports/exports to our neighbours disappear. Some having to resort to using EU citizens and their transport to essentially smuggle their stuff into the country. Insane

BenChu_ Do macro economic figures obscure the effects on SMEs, with lower revenues and margins, who are disproportionately affected by added fixed costs? How many companies in the UK are finding it easier to do business post-Brexit? Is it benefiting a few at the expense of the many?

BenChu_ Sunlit Uplands!

BrexitIQ BenChu_ Not all have been affected just 99% of them

BenChu_ Ok only 6 yrs too late but at least you got there in the end...which torai donor has decided you can release this story?

BenChu_ Why do ye keep banging on about the EU

PaoliMichele BenChu_ 'Too complicated' is why Margaret Thatcher wanted a Single Market. BrexitDisaster Brexitrecession

BenChu_

BenChu_ The Government Civil Servants are not doing their jobs That’s why it’s such a problem

BenChu_ The government hoped that companies would just switch to selling their goods in other places. Like everything they do they trivialised issues and in their own minds made it out to be simple and obvious. The real world is far more complex than their fantasy, as we seeing here.

BenChu_ It’s pretty much impossible if your a sole trader,

KirstyWark Two stunning lady's xx

fascinatorfun BenChu_ No shit Sherlock 🤦‍♂️

BenChu_ This was entirely predictable and predicted. I wish JuliannePonan all the best in her attempts to recoupe the 250k that Brexit has stripped from her. She's been badly let down by the unicorn-sellers. But the warnings (aired on that Sky News debate) couldn't have been clearer.

BenChu_ My oh my... is this finally the end of...

socioblah BenChu_ Who would have thought this would happen.?

BenChu_ I'm sorry, this will never be accepted by Brexiteers. They will never admit that Brexit has damaged our country. thesun bbcnews conservatives Brexit BrexitDisaster

BenChu_ Im in itaky and we can't buy loads of UK goods now. Haggis was the latest.

BenChu_ Blimey bbc actually mentioning the B word. Their bosses will be furious. Meanwhile Brexit wrecks us

BenChu_ Free at last to make our own laws, taxes and borders, couldn't give a crap about businesses which cant adapt.

TeresaC123 BenChu_ Had the same problem trying to buy trainers from a German website for delivary dot the UJ so bought them from the same online site whilst on holiday in Spain had them delivered ti Spain 🇪🇸

BestForBritain BenChu_ The irony is that businesses in the EU are more likely to want to trade with the USA than the UK... For anyone who knows much about trade that is a big statement. Trading with the USA is not simple.

BestForBritain BenChu_ Sorry but that’s the breaks. The majority trusted the talking heads like Farrage and NHS buses and fair weather Johnson when it was clearly nonsense. You just got to suck it up. In Scotland we trusted them too in 2014 and we have to suck it up also.

BestForBritain BenChu_ You racists and xenophobes voted for that.

BenChu_ Hi JuliannePonan. Is this you, in the Express, saying brexit will be good for small business? And on sky talking about the positives of brexit?

BenChu_ Difficult to understand those who support the protectionist eu barriers to free trade and blaming the UK decision to leave that.

BenChu_ Well, the British still want to have the cake and eat it. Being completely out of the EU single market and still have the benefits isn't possible. How many times must this be said? and no, there is no swiss-type deal available. EU will also not prolong those deals for Switzerland

BenChu_ I recall a BBC item where a factory owner showed the big directive he had to comply with, and told how leaving the EU would liberate him. No pushback by the interviewer - one document, in English, and you can just put your stuff on a truck to 27 countries.

BenChu_ I just had an experience with an Italian seller who was very apologetic but was saying how shipping sales to the UK has been a nightmare for him since Brexit. The problem is in both directions but it hurts the UK more. Much more.

ASlightReturn1 BenChu_ Clearly the Croatian importer hasn’t tried “Believing in Britain”?

BenChu_ Please mention impact on service providers too. EU-WA at least had bare bones provisions for exports of physical products; there was nothing + zero support for us service providers who'd spent decades building EU-focused client bases that couldn't easily be refocused to UK.

BenChu_ A large number of Etsy sellers based in EU countries are no longer willing to sell into the UK either. So frustrating.

BenChu_ Wow! Who could have guessed! 🙄

vicderbyshire Wasn’t this pay review recommendation made back in Feb? Given what’s happened this year this is so out of date. Even in Feb it was inadequate. Now it’s an insult.

BestForBritain Factor in the massive air mile differential and the lowering of standards, in addition to the fact that Australia clearly couldn’t believe their good luck: it’s lose, lose, lose.

Another book selling leech 🤮

These so called experts are proving the very point they have said that media and journalists are attacking them and this is another example.

Yip, the impact on our trade position was obvious before left as was the circle that couldn’t be squared around the GFA so why weren’t your reporters doing proper analysis ?

Yes, and remainers have been saying this for six years but we’re either vilified or ignored while Brexiteers lied away to their hearts content in front of media nodding dogs. newsnight

pay them properly, recoup Tory written off debts on dodgy covid loans, furlough, unusable PPE contracts and tax the rich, raise VAT on yachts, private jets and other real luxury goods!!

Wow. You guys really effed up. Who could have seen this coming?

Someone should be in prison for wilfully wrecking our economy.

theroyaleditor Exactly.

theroyaleditor I've now watched the entire 6 hours. What snagged my attention most? Harry's answer re: their wedding day, watching Meghan walk up the aisle. What was he thinking? 'LOOK AT ME!' he smugly replied. There it is. His sick demand for attention. He'll never get over being the spare.

Hello? Brexit was never about cash but about identity and self determination. And to think they call brexiteers thick.

vicderbyshire These “deals” end up costing us. A whole NZ lamb leg in Sainsburys for £13 while it’s British equivalent is £28 - £32.

The best deal we've done is actually a bad one, that gives Australia a much better deal than we get, or even that they expected to get!

Ohhh just wait until someone checks across all the departments, they are brining with temps and shifts covered by work agency's at double the price of full time perms.

EJCJones93 gave the real reason the gov can't resolve this dispute (eg with an improved offer/up-to-date pay review/using ACAS) They can't get their 'stakeholders' to agree So,... this gov's 'stakeholders' are - in effect - blocking a deal with our NHS nurses Who's that then?

we clapped now pay-up

brooklynmarie Back in 2017 we estimated the UK economy would be 4.9% poorer by 2029 as a result of brexit. That analysis seems to be holding up. cc: RANDEurope RANDCorporation charles_ries

Damn! If anyone would’ve predicted that

Simple - NEVER TRUST A TORY 👇👇👇

but hospitals were a runoff boris

Nurses still leaving in Scotland.

His name being added to those in the Antigroco.

0.08% is probably over ambitious too. The MPs and grifters such as Farage who personally profited from the Brexit lies should be prosecuted

We were told that by experts back in 2016 but Brexiters preferred isolation, higher immigration and poorer public services to a functioning country.

Be patient. Early days for the benefits of Brexit. Still 44 years to go apparently. ~JRM 🥰

The Brexiters wrecked the great deal we had chasing a fantasy

Funny they never ignore their own pay review panel?

Nobody should be suspended without a proper investigation.

vicderbyshire Imagine a crèche worker being accused of abusing 8 kids. Imagine a copper being accused of knocking about 8 detainees? Fair enough innocent guilty n all that but EIGHT cases!!!tory scum rules

nicholaswatt Alexa, translate 'reverse bullying' ... Long pause.... Reverse bullying is what bullies claim when they have been caught out. DARVO it's called. Alexa, who are Dominic Raab's anonymous allies? Even longer pause I don't understand your question....

It is commissioned by the Tory Party. How do we know it is independent? They have lied before. We can't trust them.

nicholaswatt RaabWatch

Why don’t they interview a member of the independent review board and ask them what they based their decision on and whether they had constraints

.. but he's not in the room ..

When you cap it, when you require affordability to be considered, its not independent. They should make an unrestrained recommendation, if you want to make a care for a lower amount, thats your job as a politician, not hampering the independent panel so no one trusts it.

yeah, but he's not there, he wont sit down and talk. Put all issues on the table, engage in good faith negotiations. Release the independent panel on pay to recommend any amount not the amount you capped it at, remove requirement to consider affordability, thats your job.

nicholaswatt Get tae fuck little nicky

Door is open , lights are on Minds are closed & no one’s home

That'll be independent within terms dictated by the ever loving Conservatives party. Sorry one nation, caring Cons.

Mendacious.

The door’s open but nobody’s home.

The pay review board is constrained by Government imposed financial budget limits, it's NOT INDEPEDENT!! Helen_Whately

Hopeless minister for years now on an inflated ministerial salary and apparently claims over 3k a month in rental expenses, she’s an MP in Kent 🤷

Financial parameters are set by the Gov in advance ! Members are appointed by Gov. They are not independent plus Met in early 2022 when inflation was way lower! She is duplicitous at best!

The 'independent' pay review body is set boundaries on pay by Gov (Q1 2022), and reported in June, since which inflation has risen far quicker than imagined. This means the govs tax income should be higher, hence the pay envelope of the IPRB board could be seen as outdated too.

nicholaswatt Quite ipressive how he can reeat so much drivel without breaking character of a spineless correspondent. A journalist would say it is drivel.

nicholaswatt Has JimMFelton gone to bed yet? I've been waiting 49 minutes for the only take on this that matters...

nicholaswatt Straight up DARVO DARVO This is the psychologically abusive reversal of victim and offender to cause cognitive dissonance. The intention is to gaslight and deflect from their indecency and/or criminality.

nicholaswatt Reverse bullying? That's an off way of phrasing “being held accountable for his actions”

So he can an slam it in your face

The pay review body isn't independent everyone knows that, why don't you challenge these pathetic government MPs trotting out this same line again and again?

Didn't answer the question, though.

Govn only support independent pay review bodies when suits them...ignored the police review body a few times....

nicholaswatt Pathetic

These open doors mean nothing pure lies and GASLIGHTING with fake negotiating. Tory liars we see you.

And this evening’s incompetent, embarrassingly obvious Tory liar is ….

nicholaswatt Could it be simply that Raab is a bully? Newsnight bbcnews

nicholaswatt Reverse bullying 🤣 only the Torys could come up with this GASLIGHTING crap.

Why not ask Wally whately how she would react if the pay review recommended 19%. We know her game, why even bother with her?

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She was ghastly. Just kept repeating pay review body. She’s too thick to speak on behalf of even this incompetent government. Where was the secretary for health? Hiding. Little wimp. What a government!

His door is open? But it's his (government) wallet that needs to be open to more than just banker friends and barristers and others like them.

If the government had followed the recommendations of the pay review body nurses would earn over £2,000 a year more just like they do in Scotland with a Scottish government which HAS followed the recommendations

Health and wellbeing is a baseline factor in the performance of any individual by any metric. Health trumps wealth, beauty and politics etc. Pay the NHS, Celebrate and fund the NHS, Fight for future generations for fucks sake.

And the first factor is the government saying what is the maximum it will pay. The members are all picked by the government. In half the Tory years they have ignored what the pay review body recommended.

Someone is lying? With our experience of Tories, I certainly know who it is!😡🤬👇

Helen_Whately The responses you gave tonight were shameful, divisive, factually wrong, irresponsible & gaslighting current situation. It’s clear you don’t value NHS staff or you would seek resolution. You need to step down from your role & stop misrepresenting public opinion

Maybe to break the deadlock, government agrees to same independent pay review body with the same set of parameters as used to set MPs pay?

It’s a very different pay review body to that of the MP’s. Theirs stated a 28% rise in the the last 10 years for useless clowns such as Helen Whately. The nurses deserve equal to if not more than MP’s.

In any other area of life Whately would be sacked for gross incompetence,Social Care is an absolute mess and she has done nothing about it.She has no idea what she is talking about and did not even know how many nursing vacancies there are.

You can always tell when the Govt is either cock-a-hoop or nervous. It’s when they actually put a representative on Newsnight, albeit always the most menial or ridiculous minister. Still, at least the BBC’s flagship current affairs show got Whately. Chuffed you must be.

Except the pay review bodies arent really independent. The govt sets the financial parameters within which they make their recommendations. MPs need to called out on this

sima_kotecha New Labour aped the Tories over toughness on asylum. It ushered hundreds of thousands from eastern Europe as cheap workers, but underfunded public services. Now, with austerity, the coalition Lib Dems also culpable, both parties have fuelled opposition to migrants. Hypocrisy.

Ohh look more lies. It isn't independent, it gets given a budget by the gov. It is also heavily reviewed and edited before publication...

This was appalling to watch. I’m sure it was pre- arranged that they couldn’t actually talk to each other - only through lightweight Derbyshire. Whately was disingenuous at best.

But wasnt that calculated before the war and the Truss mess?

The Independent Health Pay Review body have so obviously got it wrong shouldn't they admit their enormous mistake and not just apologise but address the massive shortfall and stop the unnecessary strikes that nobody wants.

She's not the sharpest knife in the cutlery drawer, is she? But that could be said about many of the current cluster of Tories!

I hate this hiding behind an independent pay review. The government set the terms and tell the review body what they can set. For gods sake challenge this properly!

Helen Whately health minister

“His door is open, bring wet wipes”

Speel

Helen_Whately is lying in this clip.

The real issue is by how much *in real terms* should we cut nurses pay. With inflation at 11% any talk of an increase is an insult to our intelligence.

The door may be open and the lights may even be on but there is nobody home...

She's hopeless.

Her mind is shut.

More gaslighting

Another parcelmouth Tory.

The pay review board is not independent. The members are appointed by ministers and the government sets their remit . Stop with the disingenuous information

except its not independent, inflation is over 10% and nurses pay is down 28% since 2010

Nurses have effectively suffered a 20% pay cut over the last 10 years! Many now reliant on foodbanks ! That overpaid Tory MP doesn't even grasp the meaning of it ! Solidarity with nursestrike 💙 keepnhspublic 💙 eiecampaign nurses_united theRCN

London’s big four banks – HSBC, Barclays, Lloyds Banking Group and NatWest – paid bonuses totalling more than £4bn in Feb BEFORE the cap was removed. Considering bonuses now, across the entire banking sector - how is inflation not relevant here ?

A nurses job is without a doubt one of the most difficult to do imo. Saving lives, risking their lives in the pandemic, and literally dealing with blood, guts and $hit. It takes a special type of person and they at the very least deserve your time RishiSunak

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Maybe Newsnight want to do a peice on people who don't have kids because they knew before they weren't in a financial position to do so. Life is about choices.

We need R2PforIran 🆘 🆘 🆘 🆘 they r using chemical weaponary over school children!

Not a single child - in such a wealthy country - should go hungry. Regardless of the parents circumstances. It's utterly obscene and completely unacceptable. The state have a responsibility to provide.

sima_kotecha Why is this news. Their choice and risk. Illegal criminals trying to get in illegally

Just out of curiosity, is the father of the child paying maintenance?

It is worth mentioning that at least 4 EU & Western democracies voted to elect the Islamic Republic to be on that commission. MahsaAmini

abbasnasir59 sima_kotecha Sad 😢

sima_kotecha Desperation for a better life has no boundaries and no adversity to risk.

sima_kotecha Shame on the British government for allowing this , the lack of a safe route allows criminals to profit and victims to die.

sima_kotecha There is ZERO INTENTION of 'stopping the boats', the intention is to carry on smuggling terrorists and illegals in to UK for the WEF Nazi plan of ethnocide and GreatReset. Illegal immigration is a weapon of the far left WEF like RishiSunak, US Pres. Biden, the EU. newsnight

sima_kotecha What news on safe routes for those seeking asylum?

sima_kotecha Scum media preying on deaths to promote their own agenda Newsnight Immigrants

sima_kotecha BBC and Nigel Farage must be made up at what their brexit is doing

Amazing that they were there in the first place, considering their record! 👎

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BBCWorld I think what she said is natural. There are many Iranians living in Japan, but at least they are deserters from the Islamic world, and I don't understand why they are in Japan. Amen

StopExecutionInIran IranRevoIution2022 AmirNasrAzadani MajidrezaRahnavard MohsenShekari MahsaAmini IranianLivesMatter

1. Ask him who the expert in hateful speech is and what makes them an expert? 2. Why is the interviewer so hesitant in asking the questions? As a journalist, she should be LOVING this! 3. The stuttering. That's how you know the people speaking don't even believe what they say.

BBCWorld It is just a stupid idea..... as far as Iran is involved then there are possibilities to help the women in the Country....... Isolation of a country does not help people, but it helps the government to do what they want.

'...where it would be safe to have free speech'

What til he sees the membership of the the UN Human Rights Council...

WHERE IS THE MONEY FOR ' TRACKNTRACE' ? IT IS BETWEEN 29 AND 72 BILLION. WHERE IS THAT MONEY ? THEY USED FIGURE OF 37 BILLION. BUDGET DEFECIT IS HOW MUCH ? THEY HAVE STOLEN THIS MONEY AND ARE TRYING TO COVER IT UP A PROLOGUE TO THE MINIBUDGET SAME ACTORS. EnoughlsEnough

Hmmmm . This alone will make me consider leavingTwitter.

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt If only they spent do much effort on making Britain a better place. Everything in this country is worse after 12 years GeneralElectionNow

nicholaswatt The ECHR is not fit for purpose - a relic of the past.

The more quickly claims are processed the greater the number of illegal migrants wanting to cross the channel.

nicholaswatt Racism - the first resort in the fight back. Even brexiteers can see through the lies now. A spaffed force - nails in the Tory coffin

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt International Pariah

It's hard to click on a trending topic now without seeing some kind of explicit material. it's a tremendous shame for a platform which gave voice to millions, to now start disengaging with it.

'Experts in everything'

nicholaswatt It's got no mandate...from either party...

nicholaswatt FFS! The Nazi party, most of them, should be in jail! Spaffer the Gaffer law breaker truth twister gaslighter and narcissist!🤬😡

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt Of course he is, desperate for attention, any attention, like a toddler.

Thanks for catching up with the news after 88 days!

Oh wah wah wah

I want to focus on what is being said in earnest, but my eye keeps getting drawn to the ponytail. I lose focus and the ponytail becomes all consuming. Alas.

nicholaswatt Newsnight Sorry to point this out but U.K. courts took most of the refugees off the Rwanda plane and ECHR is nothing to do with EU or Brexit ECHR is part of

Why didn’t Newsnight challenge Mr Holmes? He didn’t sound particularly convincing.

nicholaswatt James Fawcett was Johnson’s grandfather and member of the ECHR for 20 years, being President for 10. He would have been appalled at his grandson, as millions of others are. Excellent read via BylineTimes👇 Newsnight

nicholaswatt Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right

nicholaswatt Good man. Hope he succeeds.

nicholaswatt That was a shite item.

nicholaswatt What a wonderful country we live in.

nicholaswatt Johnson isn't trying to get rid of asylum seekers, he is trying to get rid of the PM.

nicholaswatt pauljholmes will you support this as well ?

nicholaswatt I'm waiting for Newsnight to tweet what Victoria Derbyshire said to the Albanian MP and i quote 'France and Sweden don't accept migrants from Albania on refugee grounds'

nicholaswatt Of course he is. Supporting Brexit launched his leadership bid and appealing to the lowest of the low in the right wing of the Tory party is how he plans to revive it.

nicholaswatt They have zero shame , zero morality and zero credibility. Roll on the election

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nicholaswatt Desperate appeal to racists in final bid for dying government.

Could you train Victoria Derbyshire to stop repeating Thank you twice at end of interviews. Irksome and wasted valuable interview time. Remember we do not want her views, rather eke out those of others

Case workers working for private companies linked through tax exempt companies owned by Peers in the Lords by any chance? We all know where this is going.

Can't believe I've just heard extremist right Jonathon Gullis use the word extremism.

Give them jobs they are coming here to work and earn living. U.K. is so short staffed so train , up skill and employ them

Can't be bothered to type this out again, Newsnight.

They won't stop them at all.

Fascist neocon hate preaching BBC. Richard Sharps disinformation channel

They're going on strike next week.

Anti UK tory propaganda channel

So for the first 6 years of Tory rule, Jerry chaired NHSPRB which delivered successive NHS staff pay cuts that drove NHS staff to use food banks. Does that sound about right? Why didn't Newsnight question him about his role in damaging the NHS ?

BenChu_ The Armed Forces Pay Review Body (which I chaired) made a recommendation in 2013 that went beyond the government’s pay policy. Not sure if there have been any later examples.

BenChu_ And of course when it suits the Tories they just reject the PRB's recommendations 👇 Another complicating factor for the NHS is that the report was due in February when inflation was much lower but only published by the government in July.

Yep, that's why there's a growing financial black hole in the scotgov accounts.

BBCPolitics The ‘independent’ in the term ‘independent pay review body’ for public sector workers should be debunked. The government sets the parameters for their negotiations! Yet, Conservatives Ministers hide behind the term pretending their hands are tied. Strikes ToryCostOfGreedCrisis

BBCPolitics I negotiated agreements for 30 years and the final terms were always agreed when the principals got in the same room.The govt controls the purse strings so the Minister is the principal with the final say. It's outrageous the govt will not the meet unions to resolve these strikes

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt They have no mandate for this. None at all.

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt Compare and contrast: 'Standing up to the Unions' with

nicholaswatt All because rail staff took action after being made to wait 3 years for a pay offer as inflation soared? They aren’t making any outrageous demands, this legislation is nothing more than the removal of workers rights and doesn’t belong in a democracy.

Well you've spent months spreading lies about who is striking, how much they get paid, why they're striking, how the government is doing nothing to resolve it etc... no surprise really. You should be ashamed.

nicholaswatt Well what about Sunak and the Tory Party, it is always one rule for them and lots more rules for the rest of society.

nicholaswatt The Tories are doing a fine job making sure they will lose the next G Election & handing victory to Starmer on a platter! Or is this the intention?!

nicholaswatt The rules on dispute being decided by one of the sides in the dispute - that makes total sense.

nicholaswatt MPs complain about pay rises driving up inflation but have had a 27.9% pay rise (£18,406) in the past decade, nurses on the other hand have only had 12% rise (£4,044) in the past 10 years. Maybe cut MP wages and increase nurses to mitigate inflation ?

nicholaswatt The vote threshold for public sector union industrial action ballots is already much higher than, say, to become the PM newsnight

Excellent contribution by Sian Moore on Newsnight nailing it on pay and the strikes

katelamble yes, they are energy positive, great. We are still decades from commercial application at the earliest. Great science news, but meaningless for energy policy at this stage.

Huw Merriam says a 19.2% pay rise will cost the taxpayer £10 billion Well if goggle says there are 360,000 nurses this would be a cost (from £10billion) of £27,778. Per Nurse And.. Puts nurses on a wage of: £144,677 Porkies Merriman

MarkUrban01 Nobody is 'left to die“ during NHSStrikes. There is always 'life and limb' cover. Surprised you haven't heard of it. Or haven't you been paying attention?

nicholaswatt That’s last weeks’ news. Where has he been.

The pay-review bodies were set up to reduce public sector pay. That's the purpose of them. Smoke and mirrors, as usual.

Some background context is good

So according to the chap on the left, independent pay review bodies have independently trashed the value of public sector workers pay leading to record breaking vacancies and near system failure in some cases? Great job 🤯

katelamble Cheap energy they won't allow it.

The people striking are the public as well

Striking workers are the public. The majority have endured 12 years of stringent austerity, minimal pay increases, increasing work loads, imposed changes in conditions of service. They have absorbed all this with minimal protest or disruption. No more. Good.

nicholaswatt Be careful, you might have a mass work to rule on your hands.

nicholaswatt As a very wise contract lawyer taught a younger me, 'Look for balance, share risks', I look forward to minimum service commitments from the govt. (Currently absent/unfulfilled)

nicholaswatt Nothing surprises me with this militant government!!

He said 'co-ordinated strikes' and you let that go completely unchallenged. Your Tory supporting editors are producing biased material.

Sian was excellent tonight, particularly on the utter toothlessness of the pay review bodies.

nicholaswatt Overtime ban and work to rule instead of outright strike action would cripple both the NHS and Rail industry. There's more than one way to carry out industrial action.

Well said Sian, we need to think about what kind of society we want to be.

nicholaswatt Given the crap public transport system we live with, can we have a fully funded minimum service guarantee for when they're NOT on strike (eg: late night ferries) IoWBobSeely

nicholaswatt Which will trigger more strikes, all part of the tory plan, then they can blame the economic situation on strikes not their failures. Time this government was sacked.

Tory pollster. Someone who will not be happy until all working people have at least 2 jobs and are dependent on food banks jamesjohnson252

nicholaswatt What will the Tories think of next?

If you believe him you believe anything. Who did he used to work for? Who funds his organisation? What's his ambition? (To be the next Zahawi) That's certainly not the experience I have. People overwhelmingly support the public not the government on this.

the public is fully behind the unions and workers and want to see james johnson boil in liquorice

nicholaswatt That’s why RMTunion shouldn’t fall for these electronic ballots to consider more derisory offers

Is this the same James Johnson who worked closely with the Tory Party? If so, how impartial is he going to be? I and many others I know support the strikes. This Government has themselves to blame and have been incompetent for many years driven by greed and self interest.

The irony, 35% apparently think unions are bad! He then said private sector workers will wonder why they don’t get support! Maybe the lack of a fucking Union!!!

nicholaswatt Yes i thought Newsnight might delete the original tweet strikes

nicholaswatt What a hateful government we are cursed with. Just negotiate with them and stop playing the bully.

The cost of giving in to the politicised trade unions' inflation-busting demands would be a staggering £28 BILLION. That's £28 BILLION of hardworking taxpayers' money. Sympathy with the selfish actions of a militant minority is fast wearing thin.

No. The government is trying to split the public on this. Classic Tory ploy, setting workers against workers.

The fact it's in the run up to Christmas, particularly the upcoming rail strikes, has to be a factor for the swing. Unfortunately it's a shallow self centered country who can't see beyond the end of their nose. Same people who were sadly misled to vote for Brexit, then Tory govs

I think the majority of us support the striking workers. The only people who are against them are either rich or out of touch with the struggles we're all facing. It's not a 50/50 split that's for sure

He’s a Tory . Utter Tory propaganda. I support the strikers .

Worker's that take strike action don't get paid, so they must be desperate to do it in this CostOfLivingCrisis and scam energy price rises Newsnight

They are all getting their excuses in early…disgraceful Like this …

MarkUrban01 Regarding the Russian attack on the Ukraine and china's threat to take back Taiwan,its quite obvious that the NATO treaty signed in 1949 after the 2ndWW needs to be drastically updated to the 21st century to include attacks on smaller weaker nations by more powerful bigger nation

Giving the contracts to companies that always had supplied PPE, instead of your mates .? Just an idea

Top planning from the Tory Govt who ignored the pandemic drill (that’s you Hunt), ignored COBRA (that’s you Johnson) and imposed years of austerity on us all (that’s you Cameron & May).

katierazz Learn to ignore the bullshit

Absolutely criminal,allowing that situation yo occur

Most MPs do as they are told by the party. Independent thinking - at least publicly - isn't welcomed by the party machine.

The unions are holding the country to ransom and the effect of all of this is we will have sky high inflation and a longer recession. Negotiations need to be two sided with both willing to concede ground otherwise there is no point. Maybe union bosses are on a lucrative bonus?

An unscrupulous, invertebrate wanker.

Unlike MPs, RDG and the DfT, rail staff can't speak on the record to the press without facing sanctions - up to and including dismissal. If they could, the narrative would be very different and there would be a wave of public support.

So if I agreed to that deal it would be 4% backdated for last year, 4% this year and made redundant next year. Why would that be put to us to vote on? Who would ever agree to it honestly? I want to secure my future for my family!

Chris Freeloader won't be an MP at the next election.

Don't tell me the BBC are pedalling lies on behalf of the Tory Party? Right wing Propoganda pumped into your home every day and night. Putin would be proud.

What a shame that nobody in government thought to approach any of the UK companies - not a single one - which supplied PPE to the NHS and were ready to ramp up their supplies.

More like free Loder

katierazz You suggest 'it perhaps wasn't as bad', as if the Royal Family are to blame and showing your usual bias. In every issue there are two sides to the story and if the BBC just believes what one side says without listening to the other side then you are at fault!.

chrisloder blow it out your arse loader!

katierazz Tomorrow’s chip paper 🤷‍♀️

MarkUrban01 Swapping a 'merchant of death' for a junkie doesn't sound right.

Nice piece of pro-govt propaganda you've got there.

Chris Loder. Lying with impunity.

How do you know when a tories lying? ….. Yeah you know this one already don’t you?

Why is Newsnight lying to the public?

Dear . These are the bits you didn’t show….

Tory donor Johnson appointee Johnson adviser Bbc chairman

Loders Talks A Load A Shite

katierazz Couldn't care about these two! Not interested!

katierazz We learnt that she is a capitalist!

MarkUrban01 How weak is Biden

katierazz Remember that 'recollections may differ'.

katierazz We learned that the British media has an overwhelming desire to distract the population from the dire social and economic conditions being entrenched after 12 years of Tory rule, just as workers are saying EnoughisEnough.

Not true ! Shame on you, calling yourself journalists!

Obviously a treacherous little kvnt though.. BBCstink

katierazz Meghan is the Yoko Ono of the Royal Family.

katierazz They are both liars

katierazz Please stop with this “Harry and Meghan” diversion. You should be better than this. What about the “great PPE robbery”? What about the government crooks who talk about their “levelling up agenda”? Dumbed down BBC. It’s disgraceful.

katierazz Jfc... just stop. Try reporting on some actual fucking news. This is ridiculous.

katierazz

A Lying Tory Mp, What a surprise! EnoughIsEnough

Sound bites like this where you only get the political bias of an MP in government aren't helpful to the dispute situation. As a member I would love to see him on TV in a panel with representatives from the RMTunion where we get to hear a fair response to allegations like that.

Lies ….. government interfering again and adding details then pulling the offer completely. Not sure what these games the government are playing with these companies. ‘’Modernisation’’ another term for cull and pay cuts.

Not calling out the lie about the strike being a response to the offer is shameful and part of how you have lost so much credibility . If you didn’t realise that it was a lie at the time then, well that’s even more embarrassing for you.

He doesn't sound like a parliamentarian who wants to advance causes he believes in, he sounds like a mercenary who has been told to pretend to hold certain views, having been promised some material advantage at the end if he complies. It's peasant thinking.

The 'offer' was pants to anyone with a brain though.......

BBCPolitics Mayor of London have mercy on the Retirees and no longer charge tickets on the Train and on the bus, when we want to use before 9am and at this time everything is expensive and be sensible.

He's a liar. How do I know? He's a Tory MP

Such poor quality client journalism, to be expected from a state broadcaster though...

More tory lies

More unbalanced BBC 'journalism'. Now just another MSM Tory fan club.

Blatant pro-boss propaganda from the BBC. Never challenges the lies of the powerful.

Fat scab

Stop pushing government lies and propaganda. chrisloder is a liar. The government deliberately scuppered these talks.

You are publicly funded, tell the truth

No mention of ADDITIONAL but WORSE CONDITIONS imposed by Government & prevention of a HIGHER PERCENTAGE INCREASE in pay !

It doesn't matter if ts. 200% pay rise if your made redundant in year 3

Disingenuous garbage.

How about interviewing an RMT member currently taking industrial action? Or would that be “left wing bias” for the BBC?

Nice to see Chris Loder ex Train Guard happy to sell his colleagues down the river if DOO comes in, as his government want. NeverTrustATory

Did they just give him a high vis and a whistle so he can just say what ever bullshit he wants

Should have had Mick Lynch in same room.

Correction Tory MP tells (propaganda outlet), 'We must cut rail staff jobs to make them starve and pay workers less and work longer hours. Our mates need to eat more lavelishy & deserve pay rises for doing nothing at the top' RailStrikes ToryBrexitDisaster RMT

Isn't it illegal for you to publish falsehoods?

Newsnight, can we have analysis + real journalism, please, instead of parrotting of the tory line?

You mean this Chris Loder? The one who reports old ladies to the police because he doesn’t agree with them? Get him off the screen.

What a load of bs. There was a strategic unacceptable offer to discredit the RMT knowing that the strikes would continue and over the festive period to give the government more spin leverage. Shame on your editorial Newsnight not to challenge Loder.

BBCPolitics chrisloder fails to acknowledge that the offer was made with an introduction of a last minute caveat to terms in relation to “driver only trains” which collapsed talks. A wage rise is important but so is the right of workers to fair conditions. ToryLies RailStrikes Railways

Incorrect. The government are rancid liars. Why does the BBC continue to give airspace to people that have proven to be unworthy of listening to. The government are only interested in keeping their fat cat execs rich, and killing the workers. RailStrikes

Keep pushing the government lies you faithfull little puppies 🙄

BBC at it again with these narratives instead holding the decision makers to account.

BBCPolitics Empire of Lies! The mouthpiece of the oligarchy peddling lies and propaganda against the working class people!

Did you find anyone to interview him or did he just get to chat shit?

BBCPolitics UNIONS ARE TROUBLEMAKERS! UK GOV IS ALREADY PAYING OUT SO MUCH TO HOUSE ASYLUM SEEKERS,GIVE THE PUBLIC MONEY TO HELP WITH THE COST OF LIVING CRISIS,EXTRA WINTER FUEL PAYOUTS TO PENSIONERS ETC!GOV IS PRACTICALLY BROKE & U LOT CAN'T SEE OR UNDERSTAND THAT!?THERE ARE NO MAGIC WANDS!

Typical tory liar

Who's side are you on OH yes, your paymasters, the Conservative party and not the taxpayer who pays your wages.

this is a complete falsehood BBCNews peddling lies as fact as usual

Did the government scupper the deal between the unions and RMT ? Did they insert last minute clauses in an agreed solution ?

What deal , pay cut with job losses , no brainier …

You’re peddling lies.

Not true. How is this coming from the British Broadcasting Corporation? That name used to mean something.

BBCPolitics Is it possible to have negative jawline?

BBCPolitics Fat dick

He was a scab when he was in the job. Company before colleagues. That’s why he’s called loadershit, because he’s full of it.

This is a lie

'Piss Choder'

Vile cretin

You can offer a deal but if its an unacceptable deal then we can refuse it thats how it works, expect nothing less from a Tory MP

Bbc peddling untruths as per

Liar

He scabbed during the election campaign. He's talking shit.

Another lie by a Tory minister, when will they ever stop. Worst government in history, surely that's up for debate 🤷‍♂️

There not protecting jobs they give you a rise for short term the cut your position no job 100% pay cut thats the string attached. paycut long term however rail fares will still go up for passengers with inflation as always and the fat cats bonuses will just get larger as always

chrisloder Typical I'm alright Jack Tory. You have no union credentials. Tories ignored the negotiations for a year, now you're surprised a shit offer has been rejected. If any guard sees you on a train I hope they chuck you off you Scab! GTTO ChrisLoderOut

They sent him emails about sewage pollution & had planned to raise the concerns at the meeting. Since no crime had been committed this was a waste of police time which is a criminal offence. Care to question Loder & Devon’s PCC about this? 2/2

Lies lies lies from the BBCNews yet again

LIARS The UK Gov has repeatedly scuppered negotiations and BOTS are out in force copying and pasting the same tweet trying to make out the UK Govs LIES

Did you have a member of the RMT on for fair balanced reporting?

Don’t watch it then. I couldn’t care less about them & have no intention of watching. BTW Newsnight, ‘ex-royals don’t say anything interesting’ isn’t news.

Did you bother to verify chrisloder's assertion? Show us the offer chrisloder

Hey an ex-RMT member who is now a TORY MP!! Do you not see how ludicrous and biased this interview is? It's comparable to interviewing an ex-climate activist who's just opened up their own oil well!! biasedbbc

That is the same Chris Loder who had Devon police harass two women who had registered to attend a meeting he was speaking at on the basis they were not residents of where it was taking place. Devon’s PCC said it was okay to do this. 1/2

Lies!!!!!!!!

🤡🤡 absolute clown, offer had more strings attached than a harp, all done by government, get your facts right.

Yeah we all know the reason why. The Govt screwed it at the last minute. The unions and train operators have both said it. Stop blaming working people trying to earn a living. Blame the useless MPs in govt who have never experienced real hardship

Except the government is the one sabotaging the deal. The BBC is shockingly poor on journalism. I don't know how anyone in Editorial or News says impartiality and accuracy with a straight face

Except the government is the one sabotaging the deal. The BBC is shockingly poor on journalism. I don't know how anyone in Editorial or News says impartiality and accuracy with a straight face

That picture was taken when Chris scabbed on the DOO dispute… he doesn’t have any RMTunion credentials…. Once a scab always a scab!

Mentira!!!!

Absolute Tory rubbish

What a load of cobblers

I’m sick of these Tory cts, lying cheating crooks.

chrisloder is telling lies. pushing this same narrative as you did with the false story from yesterday about travel. RMTunion it’s time to call out the bbc on tv next time for pushing this false information.

vicderbyshire She’s right but why is it being shoved down our throats. Just stop talking about it!

vicderbyshire He’s a traitor to his roots. Disgraceful.

Why do you keep pedalling right wing lies? Don't you have any researchers at the BBC anymore? Your bias in all it's ugly glory is on full view. Shame on you. Do better.

Blatant lies and the bbc knows this shame on them

Is that Chris 'free' Loder West Dorset MP Chris Loder claimed £256,176 in expenses last year, figures have revealed - the eighth highest amount.

What a fanny.

ChrisLoder Conservatives party spin doctor in training... trying but failing to sell ToryIncompetence

The Gov support the rich& neglecting the needs of ordinary citizen. Gov don't want to increase pay during a EnergyCrisis & CostOfLivingCrisis that the UK Gov orchestrated. They are banning strikes& Demo's. Most people are at FoodBanks daily.

Well, that’s a nice balanced report.

Why are you peddling lies

Blatant liar.

What job will he go back to once he loses his seat 😳😅.

This is what happens when people are incompetent. The quickest and most cost effective way was to look what already was there, what structures were in place and to invest,support and build on those. Not try inventing the wheel

So frightening that warehouses *full* of quality assured PPE were ignored by the government because they wanted to toss deals across to pals to make PPE from scratch - a process now well known as the illegal VIP fast lane, which cost many lives.

it's the unions that protect the working people's livelihoods. Not the Tories

The strike was called before the offer, it would have to be to meet 14 day rule. 4% after waiting 3 years as inflation soars and for that you have to give up all conditions and even your job, isn’t an offer, it’s an insult.

I knew Chris when he was employed by rail companies. He was always for the company and not the worker. No surprise he’s a Tory. Not the right person to ask about this really if you want an expert opinion

Tory MP that fidgets like that while talking is hiding something or not telling the truth...

Tory mp fkn LIAR. Scum of the earth.

We need a national strike not a rail strike

Besides being a scab he also calls the police on ladies questioning him about the Tory sewage dumping

No one believes this corrupt government, like the ppe scandal bunch of thieves

So the government didn't intercede and sabotage negociations by insisting on what they knew to be unacceptable changes to terms and conditions as reported by the FT? Problem for you lot is we don't need, want to rely on or trust the BBC anymore. Try Reading The (News) Room.

'Frightening' like working in a hospital or care home without adequate PPE for hours on end? Or 'frightening' that Tory politicians (yes, you) in power for a decade had ignored the Operation Cygnus recommendations?

What a charlatan, I find it repellent when union members become Tory councillors or MP's. Turncoats who willfully turn against their one time comrades they are the lowest of the low.

RMT literally went to them the next day to try and negotiate.... Then the train companies said there is no new mandate meaning there can be no negotiations and the government mean to 'take on the strikes'. This is information freely available and widely reported already.

vicderbyshire No one is interested

Seen it all now lol Christ lucky he’s not in union now he may have single handily tip you over for a no vote daft b..d

They wisely waited to throw the new King under the bus. A kick in the ass to Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip.

What an assault on his father the new King. Shameful. Hope Meghan continues to keep his “spirits” up lol. One day he will regret….

That horrible woman is clearly a racist. If Meghan had been protected from the lessons learned by Princess Diana’s experience, they would still be living here. I hope people start getting angry about how racist the press is and how very cruel they were to Meghan particularly.

Scab scab scab

He's a scab.

Loder is a liar.

sorry, he's on the payroll.... Billions written off of Covid debts, dodgy contracts, loans, corrupt furlough payments.. total incompitence, that's why they cant afford to pay all the hard working key workers who really deserve pay rises!!

chrisloder should know better..but is obviously planted to spin this bullshit. Government have done this..this is all on Mark_J_Harper who has torpedoed any chance of a deal. Shameful from him, but not surprised.

Why didn’t you have Mick Lynch on for balance?

What we’ve seen is govt undermining strikes and drawing them out by using taxpayers money to cover losses to the company (while they don’t pay the wages either) and what we’ve seen is the govt getting involved to scupper deals.

Most of those interviewed on this programme were honest: he’s an exception. Wish the interviewer had asked him about the allegation that Labour ‘favouring/inclined’ businesses were all ignored.

That’s a lie, a direct lie, Loader is a LIAR

Disgusting liar.

Disingenuous tosser

The case for the abolition of the Lords in one.

So talked a load of crap🤡

This guy? 🤦🏼‍♂️

chrisloder you do realise people know you’re lying? Not a good look from a member of parliament

No one cares what she thinks

So he is saying that there were no gowns, masks, scrubs etc at all, which is obviously a lie, in order to make the gov look even worse, or that the ordering, storing and issuing wasn't able to cope with a raised requirement. Orders are sent long in advance, stock arrives to suit

´A Tory mp with trade Union credentials’ 🤣

What a load of old bollix

No surprise to see the British B******t Corporation peddling these lies after they put up a bunch of lies earlier from unverified sources and had too retract part of the story.

Quite apart from ‘who is arsed?’ Why would she disrespect someone elses lived experience?

vicderbyshire The UK government had established and reliable suppliers of PPE and medical suppliers that you chose not to use; giving preferable treatment to criminals who had been donors to the Tory party. There can be no doubt that this was CORRUPTION.

vicderbyshire The man’s worse than a scab!

So full of shit you could smell it through the screen 💩

What a nob.

vicderbyshire I think you mean 'drivel'. Dribble is what babies do.

But No. 10 scuppered a deal. So, who's at fault?

Scab

Does the BBC ever do any research into claims made by the people it interviews, or does it just believe everything it is told?

He’s a lying Tory

Liar

The government have shut the door on negotiations not the RMT

Another thing they never planned for - despite warnings about the possibility of a new virus few years prior to Covid. Planning is socialism apparently.

Tories trying their best to pit the working class against one another. My enemies enemy is my friend. Up the Strikers! ✊🏼

Money for old Tory rope.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 get this blert on Dave should be on stage 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Looks like a scab if ever I’ve seen one. “Union credentials” what does that even mean 😅 The tories are just trying to pick a fight with working people to placate their foreign backers. We all see through it!

He corrects himself when he says “jobs”, because it’s the unions who are fighting for decent jobs. Instead he says “children going to school”. Kids don’t typically take a commuter train to school m8

7 second loop 😒 is that all you've got? Is this supposed to be some sort of mea culpa. GET FUCKED

When will there be a proper criminal investigation into the misappropriation of funds by government ministers and Tory donors?

Did anyone mention cost of energy? THE main factor crushing people and Europe but hardly gets a mention when talking about why people are on strike. Bizarre.

This interviewee was excellent

Sounds like a Loder lies.

Yea romance is waaaay in the past for a lying Tina whatwasthat name?

…a narrative about the power of the narrative 🤔🙄

If only government hadn't cancelled pandemic preparation and Jetemy Hunt hadn't pared back the NHS, eh. No excuses.

THE BBC NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN. It fails to challenge blatant Tory lies. The BBC itself has become a rancid cesspit of 3rd rate trash like Morning Live & The One Show & propaganda on Covid & Ukraine of truly Goebbels awfulness. Run by scum mostly staffed in news bu scum

Drivel, not dribble

So woman relying on RF for living is asked about MeghanandHarryNetflix and responds ' I am annoyed that I was not annoyed'.......ffs.....😂😂😂😂

asking the arsonists how to stop the spread of fires ..

A black woman's voice was heard.

Can’t believe you didn’t get Mick Lynch on tonight.

Bitter Women, Sweep Stuff Under Carpet , & Blame: HaryyAndMegan , Not Blame: PrinceAndrew :/ 🤔 :( 😞 Or Look Into: PrinceAndrew , Mates/Cohost Criminals GhislaineMaxwell & JeffreyEpstein , & More :( Yet, RoyalFamily & Co,Send Bile,Vileness,Hate/Hatred To Harry & Megan

Another lying Tory. Absolute disgrace that you allow them to spew this bile on state television without challenging them.

People are starving and freezing to death and this is what is on Newsnight.

Another lie.

Someone send her a cup of hot chocolate and a wee biscuit poorsoul

So don't talk about it. Enough.

Just more BBC & Tory lies.

scab

Confected outrage.

Yesss...

Great decision!

todsa1412 anyone trying to explain things to Jenkinson would need to use very small words

Google him. then decide if he does or doesn't have a vested interest.

Mark Jenkinson here, the gambling-industry supported red-wall Tory who was voted in on the sea of an expert-free and disastrous Brexit, laughing off a climate-change expert’s concerns over the retrograde coalmine approval. Same tactics as before- he thinks his voters stupid.

MPWatchNetwork John Gummer is dynamite in this davahoos

What an absolute nonsense of a debate

'Not ideal' .... they'd say that in Afghansistan

Not ideal! Not ideal! Really? Blimey! Good grief!

In fact it is a quasi judicial decision that took into account the UK’s legal responsibilities towards carbon emissions. vicderbyshire should have made that point instead of acting as an echo chamber and doormat for the anti-growth movement.

He doesn't understand the basic science of steelmaking

Of course it is. Politicians only do things that keep them in power and have shortterm results,never anything that might benefit the public or will only have longterm results

Temporary jobs until 2030 then they stop producing. How much money is jenkinson making out of it

Why is the BBC so biased? What a national embarrassment. Worse than CNBC

Why didn't vicderbyshire point out Gummer's conflict of interest through Sancroft, and the amount of money he makes from his position. This is the guy who fed his own daughter a burger during BSE after all.

There is no sane argument for opening this coal mine. So why are we?

vicderbyshire Excellent features on last night. Particularly liked Mark Jenkinson handed his own arse by Lord Deben over the case or otherwise for Cumbrian coal mine.

Ah, god bless John Gummer, the nation's most prolific eco alarmist and climate grifter. No one who wants a prosperous economy and quality of life should be listening to this rent seeking charlatan.

Vote 'The System' out. Campaign stand vote for truly independent transparent & binding CitizensAssemblies DeliberativeDemocracy Start as local independents & expand. People know BrokenPolitcs the world over. Vote The System back in with required mods if CAs not good enough

Vote 'The System' out. Campaign stand vote for truly independent transparent & binding CitizensAssemblies DeliberativeDemocracy Start as local independents & expand. People know BrokenPolitcs the world over. Vote The System back in with required mods if CAs not good enough

Since 2001, immigration has driven population growth by 7 million. The NHS has a waiting list of 7 million. It will get better when 7million people or deported.🤪

Michael Foot look-alike

You gave a platform to ex UKIP poster boy markjenkinsonmp tonight. He’s the goon who in October 2020 claimed food parcels were 'sold or traded for drugs' in his constituency.

A sensible political decision

Someone put this silly old sod Back in the CARE HOME

Rather like a certain agriculture minister's political decision to feed his daughter a burger at the height of the BSE Crisis, the better to demonstrate his confidence in our wonderful British beef.

vicderbyshire Michael Foot is in the building😄

Can we stick kids up chimneys as well

vicderbyshire Please please stop! The left. It’s just embarrassing!

Fantastic news. Government to end co2 created from importing coal.

Its about money mate, it always is. Nice little back handers.

lizharrisFCPara Fails to mention the burden of responsibility here. Interesting media training he has. Patients will be seen by ambulance clinicians, the same ambulance clinicians who treated on scene and transported, who are unavailable to go deal with other patients who have called 999.

Sooooo, 🤷🏻‍♀️. We cannot afford to wait another 2 years for this government to whittle away. Our healthcare workers have sounded the alarm and the only answer the tories have is to make it harder to strike. Pathetic. Insulting. General election now!

This fucking gorilla is the standard you get with the Tories nowadays. Poundshop politicians not fit to even lace the old Tories boots. How low Boris has sunk them.

U.K. economy will see further contraction and less money for services not more. People need to wake up to the consequences of Brexit. It has and will have real life impact on everyone. Yet few acknowledge the massive problem it is causing

⤴️⚠️👌💯Thank you to Lord Deben, Chairman of the Climate-change Committee for speaking truthtopower Ed_Miliband AngelaRayner Keir_Starmer MarkDrakeford UKLabour friends_earth GreenpeaceUK XRebellionUK TheGreenParty LibDems theSNP

Waiting for Jenkinson to label Deben a Leftie agitator, or somesuch

Not enter pressures. A decade of massive underfunding, austerity cuts to the numbers of hospital beds, eased and community hospital closures. The NHS isn’t failing, it has been failed by a government that was out to finish it off - ideology of Private over public. Blame them 🤬

No wonder these Tories say no £ for NHS, no decent pay RottenRishi signed off BILLIONS in corrupt rotten PPE contracts and set this cost AGAINST OUR NHS BUDGET So all of us on waiting lists, nurses, suffer,ALL ripped off by Tory corruption Billions 770k a wk to store uselessPPE

This coking coal is for steel production not for electricity generation so not cheaper fuel for Brits Sold on the markets🤷‍♀️Its not increasing supply Steel making is moving towards hydrogen so this plant will be obsolete soon Its a con to win a seat for this Tory Waste of money

Newsnight reporters and team are very devious..the population in England has risen by 8.5 million over the past 30 years, yet the number of hospital beds have decreased by over 50% but they do not take this in to the equation when talking about how bad the NHS is struggling 👎

Not ideal? People are DYING We pay our TAXES and expect a service End of WHAT have these Tories done with our money?

Why didn’t Victoria talk about the government underfunding of the NHS and social care ? Such a weak interview.

Alll parties' NHS and care underfunding has killed tens of thousands and denied a dignified end for countless more. Poor living standards and public services for millions belie one of the world''s richest countries. Britain cries out for a mass revolt to oust the elite.

NHS isn't failing, it HAS failed. Privatize the lot ASAP. Let the insurance companies & investment fund managers force it to work. Get rid of top heavy management. While working in NHS I saw waste, bad practice, mistakes by arrogant consultants throwing blame on juniors. scrap it

Don't we need coal to make the steel to make wind turbines Just saying.

The shameless Con M Jenkinson laughing in Lord Deben's face tells me everything I need to know about this climate wrecking deal. This is far more than just politics.

He was outstanding! Tore the woeful Jenkinson apart! We must fight this ..

What do you do waiting in an ambulance for 10 hours to be ‘admitted’ into A & E? This is ‘Third World’ territory - the sort of stuff Ghanaians, Nigerians complain about

I remember when leftists campaigned against closing the coal mines. Some people just like complaining.

blame the tories, brexit and the labour sabotage merchants for this shitshow. We need something different. Parliament has become the enemy of the people

Why not utlilise the Nightingales or similar manned by the army as intermediate care facilities. Use them in the interim to accommodate non clinical care patients who are awaiting short or long term social care allowing hospitals to free up beds for those with more urgent needs

Stop voting Tory

So people are dying waiting for ambulances and yet they are going on strike.........!

Sunak signed off BILLIONS in corrupt crony PPE contracts, established UK producers pushed aside, civil servants threatened with career damaging consequences if not compliant PUT AGAINST NHS BUDGET So cut to services thus 👆waiting lists no £ for pay Rotten rip off corruption

katelamble ToryCriminalsUnfitToGovern GeneralElectionNow ! Grenfell 💔💚

BBCPolitics katelamble We need tighter regulations to stop the corners being cut, but we also need inspections to enforce them.

Feels like Tory govt strategy now.

The fiscal irresponsibility of uk governments is a national scandal, from PPE to the track and the trace app during Covid to the £7m a day on hotels for illegal migrants… shambles.

Conservative government financial mismanagement of the NHS is to blame. Rather than spend £37billion on an in house NHS run track and trace system they opted to use the private sector, they're nothing but corrupt narcissistic politicians & need to be booted out A.S.A.P Newsnight

I, and my Tory colleagues, beg to differ.

Not exactly balanced here. 1. Labour were not in power so asking what they would have done is irrelevant. 2. The public knew there was a fast track lane. 3. The scandal is that unusable PPE was aalowed to be purchased without reprocussions. And currently being stored by the gov

katelamble Government would kill us all if they could

katelamble The woman interviewed in the studio was brilliant. Cheap shoddy design badly constructed haven’t we learned anything?

vicderbyshire katelamble More to the point will mortgage lenders view them as non standard construction

Balance on this egregious corruption 10 BILLION charged against the NHS budget Why isn’t GoodLawProject on here? NO WONDER the rest of us are having huge tax hikes They ALL think our tax for services is their personal wealth to do as they like these Tories Sunak too 👇

Established U.K. companies turned way and ignored in favour of Tory mates. No excuse . Ever

Severe case of Labour amnesia here . Who can forget nurses in bin bags with both public and Labour politicians screaming at govt get PPE now and do your job. They did and got ripped off. People responsible should be arrested if possible but that’s on them not civil service .

Easy to see why the best presenters have left Newsnight, unlike Walk, they were no longer prepared to spout Tory propaganda. Newsnight is just trash now.

Appalling journalism, but no surprise. BBC - Brandishing belligerent conservatism

RANK CORRUPTION ? A firm owned by the finance manager of Michael Gove’s 2016 Tory leadership campaign won £170m in PPE deals. After being referred to the PPE VIP lane by the office of… Michael Gove. Please Again and again We’re not stupid Are you at the Bbc?

Arco in Hull have been the primary supplier of clinical PPE to the NHS since the NHS was born but during the pandemic they didn't get a contract Do your bloody job Newsnight Interview them WHY were they overlooked for a bra seller Mone the knicker woman ? For Hancick’s family?

Only cronies referred to the ‘VIP’ lane by Tory MPs got contracts A company established 135 yrs,experts in the field of safety didn’t get a look in when it came to contracts awarded. Its based in Hull, a city with 3 Labour MPs-relevant Interview them Do your job

Johnson corrupted the system We even have the son of a KGB spy there now Ridiculous

The system was abused We need strong anti corruption laws to protect the public Genuine suppliers in the UK WERE TURNED AWAY in favour of underwear manufacturers, winebar owners donors 🤷‍♀️Under this Govt crime paid using a pandemic as an excuse

It ALL needs to come out The public have a right to know how much £ was involved in these contracts, who got them, how The fact they were charged against our NHS budget which now the Govt says can’t afford to pay nurses a decent wage So NURSES are taking the hit!

BenChu_ Passengers need gaurds to be safe help us, seen them protect people from drunks These useless companies take millions from taxpayer, their shareholders pay no tax, the service is terrible and too expensive Now they want to cut track checks Passengers+staff have same interests

Perhaps (until they change to some form of elected upper house), there should be a rule that if you don't attend/vote in 12 mths, or if you don't contribute to any debates in 2 years, you're kicked out permanently. If you aren't attending or taking part, why should you be there?

Put simply, it was tougher for a poor person to get a payday loan, than it was for someone who knew a tory MP, to get hundreds of millions of pounds of taxpayers' money. This govt sees our taxes as their own personal ATM.

The Govt struggled because they had deliberately run down / not renewed the emergency stockpile of PPE & ignored Cygnus. Cons VIP lane meant existing UK PPE firms were ignored prioritising Cons dodgy crony deals for sub-standard PPE with useless contracts.

Kirsty Wark, a floundering apologist. Emily Maitlis was much better at constructing an argument not just avoiding the issue via whataboutism.

BenChu_ Poor research. Many trains CANNOT be operated this way as the equipment isn't fitted and cannot be retrofitted. You also cannot compare the Underground's ticket offices with National Rail. Underground has a vastly simplified fares system which can't be used on the national system

Your partisan suppression and white-washing for the Conservative Party is truly beyond blatant now. Just cease the charade and stick to Strictly instead.

He assumed the title of Lord Sumption pursuant to a Royal Warrant by which all members of the Supreme Court, even if they do not hold a peerage title, are accorded the style of 'Lord' for life.

BenChu_ Should a train driver earn more than a nurse? The whole economy is fucked

BenChu_ Union propaganda. Cover real stories. DefundtheBBC

BenChu_ The Conservative government want public service's particularly the NHS to falter so it can privatise it completely Newsnight worker's cant go on struggling to support their families if wages are not at least on a par with Inflation Strikes

This was a weak piece about a colossal criminal conspiracy that needs to be ruthlessly floodlit.

Kirsty Wark, Jo Coburn, Fiona Bruce, Laura K. the BBCs Tory protecterate. Every government problem is turned into a Labour Party 'what would Labour do/have done'? The crooked Mone issue being the lastest one.

Shame Shame Shame at BBC...

Yes we know, it's full of Lord Con-sumption's Newsnight

Oh the irony

Re: PPE: Why not ask why the government didn't ask established PPE suppliers to supply PPE, rather than a company set up a few weeks ago by a Tory spiv?

Top journalism, just ask 'what would labour do?' when discussing something which was instituted by the in power conservative gov and deemed illegal by the High Court, do better

Shadow paymaster general Fleur Anderson and accounts committee chair Meg Hillier know the price of everything, the value of nothing. Ask how a Tory peer landed millions from a Covid protection contract. But neither backs the pay claim by nurses to save them needing food banks.

Tories know all about cronyism Newsnight

That's never been a policy of Labour has it 🤔

It is possible to establish a court on russian war crimes like Nuremberg tribunal and prosecute putin. If the West is scared then it is shameful! putin’s crimes must be punished! UN EU_Commission

The level of gas lighting by Labour is unreal. Murray says Starmer wants to be honest & not say things he can not deliver. He seems to have forgotten the broken pledges he made to get elected. Integrity is the last word that should be attributed to Starmer. He is duplicitous.

Putin should face the International Criminal Court. Ukrainians and conscripted Russians have lost their lives in his brutal war. But the UK and US have no credibility in their calls on Moscow's transgressions. Neither convinces until Blair and Bush go on trial over Iraq carnage.

There needs to be an International tribunal that will ptosecute putin lavrov and other russian war criminals for RussianWarCrimes

If UN fails to set up International war crimes tribunal on russia’s war crimes and prosecute putin and other war criminals WHO needs this UN? It is disgraceful! RussiaIsATerroristState

Hope not promise then..... RedTories

Sir Keir 👑

Spot on. IanMurrayMP

Disgusting to think that UN might not have the will to vote for the international war crimes tribunal on russia to prosecute putin lavrov russianarmy because india SouthAfrica support russia! And West is afraid to prosecute putin because who will negotiate with Ukraine.

He better....if he gets away with it...it will just encourage others to do worse.

What about American war crimes, and their allies. Is it just the west that's allowed to commit war crimes?

When are these multiple courts going to carry out investigations into American and Israeli war crimes

sima_kotecha atriskteachers FCDOGovUK annietrev BritishCouncil JamesCleverly ukhomeoffice GOVUK 10DowningStreet SuellaBraverman RishiSunak We AtRiskTeachers & our 👪 still waiting for ACRS. Can you hear us please 🙏 we have family 👪.

sima_kotecha Promises over promises were repeatedly made and broken to British Council left behind teachers. Unfair treatments with those left behind occurred. Please save those left behind! SuellaBraverman FCDOGovUK ukhomeoffice AtRiskTeachers tariqahmadbt JamesCleverly TomTugendhat

sima_kotecha After all the service we provided for the UK govt, being left to the Taliban is what we do not deserve. That is not what UK is known for. FCDOGovUK BritishCouncil AtRiskTeachers

Please note that it is not true, as claimed by one of your interviewees, that a FreedomToSpeakUp Guardian's responsibility stops at they point that they hand concerns to an NHS Trust's board KirstyWark Sean__Clare HouseOfCommons FTSU

AtRiskTeachers sima_kotecha Yes. The BritishCouncil teachers who taught UK values across Afghanistan. When will GOVUK take responsibility for the forgotten teachers, who now live in hiding? We are at risk because of what GOVUK asked us to do. AtRiskTeachers EDI FCDOGovUK FCDOSecretary RishiSunak

Was the current Health Minister on the programme?

sima_kotecha Snow covered mountains surround Kabul. Harsh winters make 🇦🇫 a tough place to survive in winter. Add to that a harsh Taliban regime, bomb blasts, food & fuel shortages, and you realise the challenges local Afghans face. AtRiskTeachers FCDOGovUK ukhomeoffice BritishCouncil

sima_kotecha They need safety and attention. All these BritishCouncil educators are need immediate support. ukhomeoffice 10DowningStreet UKParliament

The most basic levels of safety and elementary medical care should be achievable

Head of safety culture ? What does that even mean the English language despite being a product of several languages combined is still a language where you can decipher things …..I despair

Kirsty has been on pretty good form the last couple of days- the reports are heartbreaking but still good see some sharp questioning taking place. newsnight nhs

We always hear the same thing from ministers but nothing is ever learned or improved. Well done Newsnight for highlighting this dreadful hospital.

sima_kotecha Thank you for covering this news, it would be great if you invited one of the officials for an interview in this field, so that we know the govt's decision.

sima_kotecha keepthepromise BritishCouncil ukhomeoffice FCDOGovUK TomTugendhat

sima_kotecha The British Council teachers all taught British values. It is unfair to leave them behind despite the promises. It is nearly two years since the fall of Kabul and no practical measures have yet been taken to relocate them. It doesn’t suit UK to break promises.

sima_kotecha It is very disappointing to be left out with no support and vulnerable against retaliation for what we did for advancing the UK's cultural and educational agenda. Please spread our voice and concerns for the concerned authorities.

sima_kotecha Thanks so much for supporting our viewpoint. After all the service we provided for the UK govt, being left to the Taliban is what we do not deserve. That is not what UK is known for. FCDOGovUK BritishCouncil AtRiskTeachers NicholasK111

sima_kotecha Thanks so much to all who are reminding the UK govt that they have moral obligation to support those who have worked for them and now because of that work face difficult days under the Taliban.

sima_kotecha Promises over promises were repeatedly made and broken. Unfair treatments with those left behind occurred. Please save those left behind! BritishCouncil RishiSunak FCDOGovUK TomTugendhat McDonaldScott_

sima_kotecha Thanks to and NicholasK111 for supporting AtRiskTeachers and advocating on our behalf. BritishCouncil FCDOGovUK ukhomeoffice UKParliament we are left behind teachers.

sima_kotecha Thanks so much for supporting our viewpoint. After all the service we provided for the UK govt, being left to the Taliban is what we do not deserve. That is not what UK is known for. FCDOGovUK BritishCouncil AtRiskTeachers NicholasK111

AtRiskTeachers sima_kotecha We are AtRiskTeachers We are the left behind teachers BritishCouncil FCDOGovUK ukhomeoffice

AtRiskTeachers sima_kotecha Thanks to and NicholasK111 for supporting AtRiskTeachers and advocating on our behalf. BritishCouncil FCDOGovUK ukhomeoffice UKParliament we are left behind teachers.

sima_kotecha What are British Council workers doing in Afghanistan anyway. Its an hostile country I wouldn't go there for a gold pig.

Yes. The BritishCouncil teachers who taught UK values across Afghanistan. When will GOVUK take responsibility for the forgotten teachers, who now live in hiding? We are at risk because of what GOVUK asked us to do. AtRiskTeachers EDI FCDOGovUK FCDOSecretary RishiSunak

PreetKGillMP Does this investigation distinguish this trust from any other? This is my perception of the whole NHS.

Germany, Spain, Italy, Canada, New Zealand, Italy, USA have evacuated their Afghan allies. The only country who turned their back is the UK. Thousands of UK government allies are waiting for a response on the status of their ARAP applications. FCDOGovUK ukhomeoffice

Yes. The BritishCouncil teachers who taught UK values across Afghanistan. When will GOVUK take responsibility for the forgotten teachers, who now live in hiding? We are at risk because of what GOVUK asked us to do. AtRiskTeachers EDI FCDOGovUK FCDOSecretary RishiSunak

Deeply shocking - attacks on honest 'whistleblowers' rather than listening, acting and giving them statutory protection is a British problem. As the Dutch doctor on your programme comments 'uitspraak' is encouraged in The Netherlands and 'whistleblowing' is protected in law

This is deeply shameful - but sadly typical of British Council's failure over two decades to honour duty of care to field staff without the diplomatic immunities of this dreadful British Government's managers .....

So sad to see the people queuing for help. U.K. government again reluctant to help. Shameful. What is this ‘new’ pro-development sec of state-not sure of job title-doing to ameliorate a horrid situation?

Whistleblowers will be hunted down! There is an immeasurable cost to the individual and their family. Think before you whistleblow. Think it through!

Needed a news night investigation to tell us how shit the QE is

Looks like more people want to come to the UK from Afghanistan than British Troops Newsnight

AlisonGeorge10 🙁

Talk about milking a dead cow.

PomsetayP 2nacheki Advocatesnetja karokupa CNewsService LisaHannamp JoDivaRunner SharionSade Believe Black Voices BoycottRacistRoyals

What is a woman?

jjspringgay I thought this was a glow in the dark toilet! Lol I was right! Poo poo on those poor Royal Brits!

Set up.A black conspiracy.

Women's equality party when the charity in question is for black women only. Someone is failing.

King Charles III, bite the bullet now before it is too late! via UKChange

Stop lying 2 domestic violence victims have come forward to complain about the horrific institution racism and horrific behaviour they faced from NgoziFulani and Sistah_Space

Hell, Prince Philip made a career with his casual racism...and nobody in the Royal Family ever put a gag on him.

So we take what Meghan Markle says, a proven perjurer at her word? RF guilty before proven innocent?MM a woman who never considered herself black until her bad behavior was not acceptable?Why ignore her lies? She monetizes off the family she spits on using her title like oxygen.

What a load of old bollocks!

ManduReid

ManduReid

Black truth is the only truth as Meghan would say.

The country would be better if these haters went back to Africa

Now that the Christian community is a minority in Britain what will it mean for them being singled out?

ManduReid Is this Rachel Dolezal?

I see the opposite they - their attitude was not pleasant- they could have been more polite and answered nicely. Lady Hussy saw an ethnic outfit and wanted to know more about her. This is racism not asking a question where you are from

Remember, bad apples are not singletons. They are signs the whole lot is rotten.

Well said!!

You know what?If she'd met a Yorkshirewoman she would probably have had the same conversation..Context is all.If you think this is racist grow up.

Black women says it well it must be true, really

Alt52017689 Don't use Meghan 's name now that you are trying to prove a point. All UK organisations including the black ones were SILENT during Meghan abuse & being bullied!

Of course she does . She must be right .. said NO one

You mean you want me to believe JustHarrys’s wife’s account of things?

There's certainly a pattern of grifting with false accusations. Markle's involvement in a rather nasty stunt is glaringly obvious - if anything, a compelling argument for the removal of the remaining titles and a Charities Commission investigation.

For money, you've attacked the integrity of an 83 yr old lady. That lovely picture of the 'victim' in her home is not how she looked in Buck Palace, with dreadlocks and dressed of a culture that invited an 83 year old to make a mistake. Racism has to be fought, but not with lies.

Rubbish

Another Grifter

A nation of beaten down cucks

Good old BBC, bringing out the usual race baiting suspects

How about Ngozi refusing to help this woman because she is mixed race? Isn’t this racism as well?

All these maggots trotting out of the woodwork just because a lady asked a polite question that’s been asked a million times over but this time it was asked to a race baiting markle implant

This lady is cut from the same cloth as her colleague Dr Shola - a grifter! She is promoting racism - is the timing a coincidence? Why should we not question liars ? Meghan has been proven to lie on many occasions- why should we believe her when she talks racism RF are not racist

The internet doesn’t lie

Institutional racism is what non white people ingrain into their children so when they fail at anything in life they can just throw that out there - 'the world is against us' mentality. Their ancestors would look in disgust at how far we as a human race have progressed.

what doe she know?

Lady H is not a member of the RF

Is it a coincidence that this lady is on newsnight? Not much rquality on her agenda

More like institutional superiority

ManduReid But to get your point across, you've attacked an 83 year old lady. I too hate racism, but that lovely picture of the 'victim' in her home, is not how she presented herself in Buck Palace, with dreadlocks and dressed of a culture that invited an 83 year old to make a mistake.

ManduReid Which pattern institutional racism you are talking about? The institution who paid her £32 million wedding? Or Prince Harry multiples racist incident? You are creating an entire drama for a simple question hoping to help a mixed race white passing woman who despise black men.

ManduReid 💖💖💖

Lady Hussey is NOT a member of the Royal Family. The RF condemned her actions and acted swiftly to remove her.

Oh course she does.

I'm so glad, I cancelled my TV license and not paying any penny to BBC for producing such useless programs.

ManduReid Is she embarrassed by her african heritage, why so desperate to be european ? cultural appropriation comes to mind culturalappropriation blacksplaining

ManduReid Are you embarrassed by your african heritage, Sistah_Space why so desperate to be european ? Sistah_Space cultural appropriation comes to mind culturalappropriation blacksplaining

A race grifter speaks.

Of course she does...

Lady-in-waiting's job is to mingle with guests and try and find out something about them, so that they can be introduced to other guests. Did she hear the conversation, or just a report of it? .....Harry has a book out soon.

SarahData_ With all respect to Mandu Reid, does she gets that the rapid response to what Hussey did is all about the fact that William is in USA that's the only reason it's being given an immediate attention after that all will be swept under the carpet

Glad to have another example of why I block all news related to the UK royals. Deplorables.

The 'lady' was dressed like an African woman. If I had to make small talk to man in tribal kit I would probably open with enquiry as to where he was from. Where do you live? what do you do? is normal boring drinks party banter. 'Did you boil a missionary for dinner?' is racist.

You link recent events to Megan Markle’s account. The key word being ‘account’, yet many of her accounts are now thought sensational. So who to believe? All we know is that an 83 year old woman spoke insensitively, has acknowledged that & resigned her role. Let’s now move on.

Media steering the debate by who they choose to interview.

Her account had no names, places or specific conversations by which the Palace could have acted. The Palace has proved that, if given a name, a place and an actual conversation, then they will act swiftly. Markle was just scatter gun with her ' accusations'.

ManduReid Ok so Harry said someone made a remark early on in their relationship before marriage. Meghan said whilst pregnant when discussing titles do I have a scope was Meg pregnant before they were married is that when she had a miscarriage. Their own stories are not even aligned.

This reporter and at e entire bbc crew needs to take a course from this guest unbelievable

It’s becoming more and more like a set up to promote her party and the charity, and disgraceful of you to give it traction.

So the white privileged reporter even furthers the racism dog whistles if the Royalty ?

Stop the madness

Meghan had her own issues.

Meghan needs to give specifics or else this will continue to be imputation without investigation. Pointless.

Thank you ManduReid for your insightful words. You are the voice that many need to listen to at this moment.

We knew the BBC wouldn’t let us down by finding someone to agree with MM against the Royal Family, who would have thought.

Oh, so there isnt an excuse 'Its just few a bad apples' does this suggest then that within the Black & Non-White Community there is a huge problem with Antiwhite Racism?

A demonic agenda to bring down the monarchy. Truth and reality don’t come into it. It's a tribal thing.

ManduReid Royal haters and race baiter plotters, those working for markle. Security should check these people out thorougly.And should of not been invited.Obvious they had a agenda. You wouldnt let a terrorist in the palace so dont allow race baiters who want to harm the royals.

'мarkle named the baby girl she has in her possession lilibucks after that bad, bad Royal Family ' ○с MeghanMarkleisaLiar MeghanMarkleisaRacist PrinceHarryisaRacist PrinceHarryisaLiar 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻

ManduReid OAP gets set up by royal haters and race baiters. Shola, you the charity woman theres a pattern rush off to SkyNews.Shola does her role of division as usaul on twitter. Charity woman rushes off to put on twitter. And your all mates,funny that.

THIS WAS A SETUP BY THE ACTIVIST LADY FROM BIRMINGHAM. WEARING AFRICAN CLOTHING THEN GETS UPSET WHEN ASKED WHICH COUNTRY IN AFRICA IS ABSURD.

NEVER FORGET MEG IDENTIFIED HERSELF AS CAUCASIAN IN HER THEN 2014 BIO PROFILE. THE RACIST IS MEG. GSTK.

Stop peddling fake news and having these divisive race grifters on the BBC.

byetwit She said it

ManduReid 👏 so true One bad apple down… Thousands more to go. Keep shaking the tree.

You know what, BBC? I am getting really fed up with the validation of false narratives. Sandy Toksvig was requiring money for the party and now you gave them air space. Based in the same BS that you KNOW is not true. And you do know that. When you lose the licence fee, don’t cry.

Mandu Reid is an exceedingly eloquent and intelligent woman. Bravo to her for giving such a reasoned, thoughtful, and meaningful response. I’d have not been able to remain calm. Her reason and composure is something that’s awfully lacking nowadays on TV

Spin it how you like. This is a grasping-at-straws moment. Ngozi has a history of slating the Royals...so probably a setup. This is a conversation all cultures have...so stop being hypersensitive, you're not exclusive.

The woman complaining of 'racism' has lied before, accusing TRF of domestic violence, again, with no proof. The 'conversation' was out of character for someone w/60 years of experience working for TRF. Shola helps these race baiters preparing for the RFK award. It was a set up.

Is Mandy heading off to Iran? Thought not… Typical racist 😂

🤣🤣🤣, what a joke, just because she's not white. Where were they when Diana died, shit she was white, doesn't count, she can get lost

Of course she does. Call the race card is a easy one to pull!

vicderbyshire Meanwhile MPs salaries have risen 32% in real terms. They have no leg to stand on.

W hat does Megan want out of this ? Why could she not approach the issues she talks bout like any other person ?

What a load of bull

Cc: kehinde_andrews

Seems staged..well done for pushing your agenda.😒

biasedbbc scummedia. Getting an old lady fired by playing the race card. Disgusting behaviour that will rebound. Why would anyone engage with or hire someone if they thought they may do that.

Only the BBC would have this leftie racist on for an interview

BBC Newsnight, Can you please find out why Harry's own father & brother took away his security? I know they are briefed & knew that H/M & Archie had real death threats against them. Then H/M/A location was leaked from the palace. Why?

The RF has proven they are institutionally racist, why is King Charles wanting to change the rules surrounding Archie/Lillibet, the things that were highlighted in the Oprah interview was no lies, Meghan experienced racism and someone did raise Archie’s skin colour to Harry

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Makes me really cross how they've now trying to discredit Ngozi. She was dehumanised at this event and the RoyalFamily KensingtonRoyal should all hang their heads in shame. But I doubt they'll look at ways to make the monarchy anti-racist because they benefit from racism vile

Meghan has a documented loose relationship with the truth and this uninvited guest went to BP with a history of making public inflammatory statements about the RF - ffs what could possibly go wrong

Another great woman! Keep the light on, don't let it dim. You are the present and the future

Absolute bullshit.

Mandu knows 👍

She has agenda against the royal family

Where is the proof of racism?

Oh BS.

There’s no racism that’s what you want people to believe. And our country is and was always great.

There’s a “Women’s Equality Party” ? 🤣🤣

I don't believe Megan Markle’s claim of being on the brink of suicide. Still, I think that they, particularly Kate Middleton and the queen consort adulterer snubbed her openly and intentionally because of her race and beauty. They felt threatened.

Ridiculous

Omg shut it already!!! MEGHAN knew exactly what she was getting herself into when she married Harry. ROYAL LIFE WASNT FOR HER!!! She wanted the titles. She doesn’t love Harry

Mr and Mrs Tampax who bullied a young mother mercilessly, and destroyed her life. Camilla is a joke!

There seems to be a reluctance by the BBC to call “that story” what it is - racial microaggressions. There were 2 touching a Black woman’s hair and ask where a Black person is “really” from. Watch this short video to understand RacistBritishMedia

They really stepped in it with this one. Mandu, you are awesome!

Spokesperson for Meghan Markle. She is the one behind all of this it was a SET UP!!

I think it’s interesting how quickly you went on so many news agencies to spread your LIES! You will be exposed! jessieSmollet

tootla_angeline The RacistRoyalFamily never issued one statement on all the racism and abused heaped on Meghan. BLOODY EVIL HYPOCRITES

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Well spoken Mandu Reid!! Keep it up!

Oh please - MeghanMarkIeisaLiar - why didn’t her doctors get her help for her suicidal thoughts? Megan has lied so much - wouldn’t believe a word she says.

anna_itsonlyme Megan Markle is a liar don't believe a word she says.

anna_itsonlyme Markle couldn't get her own way that's why she was suicidal.

Why would you believe MM's account rather than ALL the 14 (yes, 14) staff that worked for her? Why? Crikey, if everyone who was fed up said they felt suicidal where would the world be? Get a grip woman. Believe the minority, ignore the majority?

How convenient the timing of this latest 'outrage' is as William heads to Boston. Reid is a well-known Markle supporter which tells us all we need to know.

This is totally nonsense! Don’t give this woman any more airtime.

wickdchiq Always Team Meghan& Harry! They escaped and now have new careers!

Imagine having to deal with the far right death threats out there and racism at home. I'm so glad Meghan is okay ❤

Oi…. The day in day out injustice of that awful Institution? But, I’ll still milk the tittles for all it’s worth. Hypocrisy is alive and well.

Why is Meghan Markle suddenly EVERYWHERE?

This is so suspicious,. The way she has grabbed at every news outlet.

Sick of it!!!!!!! Race Card

A reminder . The Royal Family has yet to recognise Archie and Lilibet Birthright!

The Queen Consort and William are being Puppeteered by the Hateful,Racist Daily Mail. They are doing a pretty good job at destroying the Monarchy. It appears Charles is not in charge of the Firm!

Excellent insight to an urgent institutional problem.

History of the American Right: British Empire, Royalists, Confederates, Assasinate Lincoln, Jim Crow, Anti-Suffrage, Assassinate JFK, Anti-Civil Rights, Assassinate MLK, Anti-Choice, Anti-LGBTQ, Wars for Profit, Mass Incarceration, MAGA/Insurrection. Institutional HATE passed on

Mandu Reid is a powerful communicator.

pattern of institutional racism is what is going on here at BP, they are old people that have been too long in position, and they can't see any changes. they are still acting like the Queen's father is still on the throne. it is time for a new way of thinking.

Every time they interview her, she gets stronger and stronger,

Thank you Mandy Reid. I so agree with your point of view. It is unjustifiable how they handled Meghan’s pleas for help. The speech might have been powerful but lacked sincerity, practice what you preach. Lip service is not acceptable.

joannekarma 2010. Is that when the incompetent Conservatives came to power? Oh, I see a correlation now! ToryCostOfGreedCrisis ToryCriminalsUnfitToGovern ToryBrexitDisaster ToryScum

Aptly put. The problem is institutional, not just one bad apple. Because this incident was not about Meghan, the royal family and UK media were not able to gaslight the public on the issue.

InvictusbyPepp The monarchy itself is based on the racist attitude that people's worth should be judged by their 'bloodline' (parentage). The only way to stop having a RacistRoyalFamily is to AbolishTheMonarchy.

Meg was always right! AbolishTheMonarchy Meghan MeghanMarkle PrinceHarry

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Do not attempt to gaslight the speaker. She is telling the truth. You can’t accept the words of a patron who downplayed the words of a black women who was victimized recently felt just a few hours of harassment and understood the a avalanche of racism aimed at Meghan

Wow.....

Quite an eloquent and correct response by Mandu Reid.

They can give speeches about believing women and do the exact opposite with no shame at all.

THIS!

Good point

Thank you, lady!! Yeah, let the (racist) hypocrites say: « we should listen to and believe the victims », except when it’s Meghan Markle (that we hate for saying the truth about our « saint » 😬 royals and Firm!) 🤦‍♀️ Brave and honest woman! Bravo 👏

MPIainDS the safety of Hongkong visa applicants has to be taken more seriously than this. Surely this warrants an urgent question?

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You should follow up with the victim 'cause the royal rota has started to vilify her 'cause she make this public...They want her punished for talking.

Lol civil servants be like 🤨

They dealt with it quickly cos wills and Kate are in the US What has the earthshot got to do with President Biden? These people ain't serious at all

There is a need to start calling it a pay adjustment or a inflation pay adjustment The term pay rises should be reserved for when workers better off afterwards in real terms, not the same or worse

As you well know Matthew it’s not the governments money! Our NHS is funded by the hard working people of this countries Taxes!

And the money to pay for these increases comes from? Let me help you, the hard working people of this country Taxes! Like the self employed who don’t get paid sick leave holiday pay & pensions It’s the likes of them that pay for our NHS

OMG…..really!

An overreaction.

I think this exchange, along with all other media opportunistic grasps is more about Mandu Reid's own agenda, than anything else. Newsnight

If the lady asking had been Asian she wouldn't have claimed racism. But a white lady does it and she sees an opportuninity. I mean she is literally making a career out of idenity politics and complains when someone shows some interest in her... identity.

I think she has a valid point. There are signs of racism

Great to hear that they will be supporting the strikes.

Aren't most workers ?

Compo claims incoming! Pathetic

China could own half the UK's real estate and these Conservative clowns running the country wouldn't have a clue BeneficialOwnership Newsnight

New Labour crony who used his connections to blag his way into CEO land.

Thank you AnitaCTHF for saying it like it is. No frills, melodrama - just the truth 👏

Not entirely sure that Sir Kim was given full credit for his candour there, but an important interview all the same.

This is because the NHS abused their position as the biggest employer in the country by hiring cheaper labour from abroad & now free movement from EU has ended, it's bit them in the ass, not to mention the Conservatives making it harder for migrants from outside EU Newsnight

What a mess of a programme vicderbyshire England, Wales and Northern Ireland one minute, then England, then England and Wales. Totally misleading and a total lack of accuracy on how the 4 NHS systems in the UK are run. The UK government only runs England's NHS!

In which country?

Those 6 years wasted on Brexit? Those 12 years of Conservatism? Bit silly that.

How can this be guaranteed if current Ambulance service is in such disarray Newsnight

MayorofGM It comes to something when my daughter comes home from uni in London to Macclesfield at the end of term that her boyfriend who lives in South East France may beat her home 🙃

The 'rail disruption' is purely the result of industrial action taken by Burnham's union pay-masters. For him to sit there, pretending that the North hasn't received massive levelling-up funding, is oddly reminiscent of his 'nothing to see here' schtick over Mid-Staffs.

MayorofGM Never mind the railways. My partner and sister-in-law were approached TEN TIMES by lowlife beggars in your City Centre whilst shopping at your Christmas Market. Pushed by a psycho muttering aloud with his hands in the air. CLEAN YOUR CITY FIRST FOR GOODNESS SAKES! B4 trains.

Strikes , strikes and more strikes Andy, don't you remember what the 80's was like because at this rate seems like we're back there

BenChu_ FirstGroupplc AvantiWestCoast The Conservative government should take their train licences away, although they might lose some donor money, but should be able to find some cash from michellemone if they're short Newsnight FirstGroup Avanti 👎

Why do you all start striking around December and spoil it all for you’re customers like Postal strikes Rail strikes the NHS strikes and all the others that come out on Strike it’s the same thing every year and it’s the PUBLIC who suffer.

katelamble Most Brits don't care about identity, ethnicity, and religion. What they do care about is culture, traditions, fairness and the rule of law being eroded in the name of diversity and via massive demographic changes.

It means a lot just to be there and be part of it home or abroad ! Regardless of result !

AndyBurnhamGM Your party supports the militant unions actually causing the disruption. Labour own this.

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AndyBurnhamGM I ask today's meeting to hold rail companies accountable for additional government funding. Do they boast profit for shareholders or an efficient public transport system for The North? privatisationisntworking England

vicderbyshire This govt has no intentions of levelling up in the same way the ‘northern power house’ was just all talk. All they do is talk about what they are going to do but no action. Same with online safety bill - how long as this been going on and now they want to water it down.

AndyBurnhamGM Why would drivers work rest days whilst they are dispute over a pay offer? They don’t owe any favours and working rest days would only prolong the dispute. A resolution on pay is what is needed, then they can discuss rest days and any other changes to conditions.

Why was no 'Yorkshire' or 'Yorkshire British' option available in't Census? People in Yorkshire identify more strongly with Yorkshire than England or British as a National or Ethnic Identity. Kernow&Wales are counted;So Why Not Yorkshire? OneYorkshire

Did he really believe the 'levelling up' BS? LevellingUp was just another tory lie BTW where are those SunlitUplands ? P.S. does anyone want to buy some magic beans? 🤤

piyakhanna If anyone believed the Tories & their “levelling up” promises, they haven’t been paying too much attention to Tory policy over the last … 40years. Much like all those new hospitals.

katelamble Why was the only person on to speak about the growing number who say they have no religion a Bishop?!

vicderbyshire If the north had services equivalent to Tfl in London, it would add millions if not billions to the northern economy and increase productivity dramatically.

And it is desperate Sister used to visit me every two weeks lo help me look after Mum but after the last disaster, we have told her not to endure it again meanwhile in the south the Elizabeth line

katelamble Why was no 'Yorkshire' or 'Yorkshire British' option available in't Census? People in Yorkshire identify more strongly with Yorkshire than England or British as a National or Ethnic Identity. Kernow&Wales are counted;So Why Not Yorkshire? OneYorkshire

katelamble Just watched Newsnight discussing census looking at the British, Welsh and English. Hmm. Do Newsnight journalists not think that Scots and people qualify as British? Maybe at last they're coming round to the view that Scottish independence is inevitable.

katelamble ….Scotland doesn’t care… England doesn’t care that Scotland doesn’t care…..10DowningStreet …. We are 4 different countries & cultures in UK & it’s so very much more obvious to Scotland than England… 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 is shackled to 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 BreakTheChains ScottishIndependence WhatUnion?

VictoriaDerbyshire and others will take the time to learn to pronounce Ndabaningi Sithole or Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelensky perfectly but disrespectfully chew DafyddIwan and YmaOHyd.

katelamble We're better at football than them.

katelamble So much to take i was confused 🤣

katelamble well all the men (in the media) use hair dye now....dragqueens

Offering a gym subscription to be more religious! Where the hell does get these so called journalist from! Cutting costs in presenters will not work in the long term!

England and Wales no difference at least Scotland has a bit of a backbone when it comes to independence

The guy who wants to do to Grt Manc what Khan is doing to London... ULEZ !!!!

Andy Burnham is as sincere as the eyebrow and hair colouring, he thinks we don't notice it! But it's very funny!In more serious news , you the hell vote's for this superficial person?

The problem is still privitisation and train operating companies taking too much out for investors leaving nothing to improve services.

AndyBurnhamGM Levelling up was only a Boris catch phrase. If they painted a hospital ward they called that levelling up.

Hahahahaha. Reap what you sow!!!

I'm waiting for Fu Manchu to sort it all out Newsnight

BenChu_ Any yet the BBC never asked those questions when the rest of the planet was locked down. It was just fine back then. Pricks.

BenChu_ You lot on the BBC have no shame do you - couldn’t even report a covid protest outside your own front door. Shame on you BBC...🤬

BenChu_ 😂😂😂 talk about treating the British people with utter contempt! Have a lie down BBC, I'm sure it will come to you.

BenChu_ By having a lying corrupt state TV channel to push their lies. Absolute clowns at the BBC

BenChu_ State of these “journalists.” BBC, other media outlets and certain “celebrities” suffering a pandemic of amnesia now. Brayed for a more Chinese style approach in those press conferences and anyone questioning lockdowns were shut down as conspiracy theorists.

BenChu_ The BBC should know the answer to this one, because YOU BBC helped bring it about over here in the UK. FEARmongers CCPPoliticalLapdogs WokenesePresenters DontQuestionTheScience DontAskDonorGates CensorFreeSpeech CancelCulture BBCIndoctrination

BenChu_ Do you call those protestors 'conspiracy theorists' and 'covidiots' too?

BenChu_ Go to hell BBC

BenChu_ BBC 🤡🤡🤡

Likes of Rachel_deSouza hectoring tech companies exposes risks of Online Safety Bill Not just about children It’s a bill likely to trigger unintended consequences re free speech How credible can a bill be when pritipatel and NadineDorries were involved🙄 “Harmful speech”🤔

BenChu_ Aren’t they all anti vaxxer covidiot tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists? You need to get your Fact checkers on the case.

I like the way you interrogate your guests but please don’t keep interrupting when they are, reasonably, trying to reply!

frankieboyle seems to have forgotten his Grecian2000 this week

She was given a very ride on how difficult age verification on the intetnet would be. Hint: not even porn sites require AV in the UK, though its been proposed many times by the 'How hard can it be?' brigade. Why is that, I wonder?

Chinese students and Han Chinese have now experienced what the Uighur Muslims have gone through at the rehabilitation encampments.

BenChu_ WatchRatio I have the feeling this one, whilst but an acorn - may soon mature into a mighty oak of a ratio...

BenChu_ You're 2.5 years too late. Don't bother. You had your chance to question this in 2020. You didn't. Your mates in the BBC were bigging it up.

BenChu_ You could have asked this about the UK and questioned Covid hardliners 2 1/2 years ago. Speaks volumes that you didn’t.

BenChu_ Could you point to any evidence that vaccinations would save hundreds of thousands of lives? Highly vaccinated countries show excess deaths running to just these figures since the start of vaccine rollout in Jan 2021. Correlation so strong that it is no coincidence.

Final section featured Seely and Sassoon. 2 Tories. No opposition voice as usual. How do you justify this?

BenChu_

BenChu_ China this, China that. All regime change fantasies Newsnight

BenChu_ Are you joking? Has everyone all of a sudden contracted mass amnesia?

Why did you shut down Thomas Hale when he tried to tell you there had been no protests in Shanghai for the last 2 nights? Newsnight Did it not fit your narrative? It smells rather ironic.

BenChu_ Never mind a subscription model, just close the BBC down. Hypocritical scum.

BenChu_ How did the British government end up imposing a draconian zero-Covid policy at tremendous cost to its own economy and reputation? KnobEnd's Economics Editor BenChu_ explains BorisJohnson RishiSunak

BenChu_

BenChu_ Same way the UK government did? Unaccountable, self serving and naive MPs voted through ill thought out policies because they are influenced.

BenChu_ Lie from the start. The first cases were not in January 2020, they were in 2019.

BenChu_ Are you being serious?

BenChu_

BenChu_ With the help of a state broadcaster like the BBC

BenChu_ Same way we fell for this lunacy, I guess?

BenChu_ This is a piss take surely?

BenChu_ The lack of self awareness is simply staggering

BenChu_ How did the UK government end up imposing a draconian set of lockdowns and restrictions for almost 2 years? Oh yeah thats right, with the assistance of paid-off state media by money-grabbing monsters like the BBC to manipulate the public.

BenChu_ Did the state media hugely exaggerate the risk of the virus and continually ask why longer, harder, earlier restrictions were not being put in place with no analysis of the cost? Just saying, like.

BenChu_ How did the UK do exactly the same in April 2020? Newsnight

BenChu_ Let me correct that for you... 'How did the *UK* government end up imposing a *CCP-STYLE* draconian zero-Covid policy at tremendous cost to its own economy and reputation?'

BenChu_ Hold on, is being against Lockdowns good now!? I thought we were all evil, selfish, stupid Granny killers!?

Not while they are such big friends with Putin!

Also disappointing to see that Sir Simon Jenkins was given his pre-nominal in the interview captions whereas Dr Rebecca Windermer was not.

Let's hope that UK does not decide the terms to suit itself!

This is TOXIC thinking to gain personal wealth! It only leads to looting and misery! How about thinking of spreading wealth that we own?

jiyargol Forgotten Yemen

Brexit is a fools paradise

Brexit is a fools paradise

Graham Gudgin? Chief Economic Advisor to Policy Exchange – an anonymously funded neoliberal thinktank, co-founded by co-chair of the Vote Leave campaign to leave the EU, Michael Gove? If so, why wasn't this mentioned in his introduction, given the subject was Brexit? Newsnight

Uk lost€151 billion in trade deals by leavingnEU , but won’t admit it

Europeankelly Quelle Surprise!

Ah yes the almost entirely humanised 'natural' countryside is it...? Energy anyone?

Well honestly who'd've thought 🙄

BrexitBrokeBritain

Climate change is threatening the English countryside, and people like Sir Jenkins are opposed to the cheapest way of creating renewable electricity using onshore wind. What would he rather have, a future with renewables or a dead world without? ClimateCrisis ClimateAction

I'll say

Australia suffered quite badly when the UK disappeared behind the EEC tariff wall despite having been concentrating on shifting trade for years before it happened. Some businesses went bust, others were badly hit Of course it recovered with increased trade with closer neighbours.

TeresaC123 You have to a Professor to have worked that out? Wow.

State of this.

TeresaC123 not very green travelling halfway round the world

I don't know when Jenkins last looked at the British countryside but it's mostly empty, motononous fields. A wind turbine or twelve might perk up the place.

How stupid, tell mlawless13 to visit her local supermarket & see where everything comes from. grapes from Brazil & chili etc. Someone should also point out, that parts of EU are a 3-hour flight away. EU imports & exports to China, its biggest export market is US. Pathetic

Better than pouring shit into our rivers.

Wave power makes sense we're an island the proposals were put forward in the 70s and deliberately costed up because North Sea oil was poring in. Just think if they had plummet for it then this country would be the world's leading green energy provider

FardadFarahzad MarkUrban01 خیلی مردی امید جان، درد و بلات تو‌سرخامنه ایی و‌نوچه هاش،

MarkUrban01 Thank you so much, omid9 for so persistently standing on the right side of history, and fighting “evil”! We see you and we appreciate you! 🌷✌🏼 MahsaAmini‌ IranRevoIution

The future does not belong to you, get out of the way

Don't get the view that wind turbines are a blot on the landscape. Could someone please explain what is so offensive about these elegant examples of modern technology.

I just want to say Electricity Pylons...they look lovely and are spread all over the UK countryside...🤔 Give me a wind turbine any day and make sure ALL new housing is built with solar panels.

I’m sure similar was said about railways, hydroelectric, roads & telegraph wires. We need energy, we don’t want to be in hoc to nasty states. We want to reduce CO2. We need our fishing fleet to be able to access their grounds. Onshore farms are a good thing.

MarkUrban01 My love and respect to you Omid. I think your words echoed how most Iranians feel right now.

It’s always jam tomorrow.

MarkUrban01 killer_clowns They kill and dance. Thanks, guys....for the joy of killers. مهسا_امینی اعتصابات_سراسری انقلاب۱۴۰۱

Drivel, UK trade with India is a tiny fraction of that with the EU etc… Moreover, India’s economy isn’t suited to the UK’s in terms of trade…

Only if we provide freedom of movement and assume they don’t want to trade within their own block ?

The RejoinEU petition is having a bit of a surge at the moment. Keep RTing. Now heading towards 21.5K. WE WANT OUR STAR BACK!!! MarchForRejoin. GeneralElectionNow GTTO FollowBackFriday

There’s nothing to stop the EU & it’s member states “getting into bed” with fast-growing economies via trade deals negotiated from a position of strength. Or we could just stick with the failing Brexiteer Billy no-mates approach to trade. 👇 BrexitIsntWorking

If we don't have wind farms there won't be a 'British countryside'. It'll be parched and barren landscape with periodic storms and flooding.

“Oh Hans, those terrible windmills with their monstrous wooden sails, they are such a blot on our beautiful Dutch landscape, this terrible 18th century technology is wrecking everything” 🤪

Dinosaur.

Bollocks

MarkUrban01 I think omid9 is both right and wrong. If Iran was not in WC would he have been on TV to enlighten the people like he does here. Anyway omid9 you are doing a great job, thanks for your tireless efforts.

Is Graham completely missing the point, rabbiting about making up loss of trade with the EU by waiting indeterminate years to use India as a substitute?

Turbines look magnificent and if they help release the grip that foreign gas and oil has in us so much the better

30 years down the line. Weren't we promised immediate benefits? Controlling borders, higher GDP etc.

Graham Guerin of right wing think tank Policy Exchange and ex Briefings for Britain. That one. Funny you didn't mention it.

They’re not as ugly as a dead planet! wind farms won’t be needed one day & we can remove them safely, If Alexander the Great & Julius Caesar were building nuclear power stations instead of empires all those years ago we’d still be dealing with their waste! it’s that toxic.

Distance may cease to matter much if you are a company producing 100,000 cars a year Distance and other NTBs like SPS regulations matter *a lot* if you are a small business making cheese or pork pies

I wonder what the other interviewee was saying?

“Cambridge University’s” Graham Gudgin That’ll be the same guy then as Graham Gudgin, from right wing think tank Policy Exchange? BBC telling it as it is again 🤦‍♂️

Plonker.

I’m surrounded by wind farms. I think they are absolutely beautiful

Trade was normally with nearest neighbours, IN THE 1600s. I can export to most countries in the world without leaving my home because it’s 2022”

As opposed to climate change, which doesn’t threaten the countryside at all. 🤡

What a daft comment; it's how we got into this mess in the 1st place. VOLUME of trade is as important as RATE OF GROWTH. If trade with A grows by 100% & B by 10%, but A is worth £1bn & B £100bn, you'd be mad to ditch B! In EU we pursued A AND B; Brexit = either/or Newsnight

SpanishDan1 Brexit Britain doesn’t need experts.

I would maximise them offshore first, including developing tidal power, then if we still need more, move onshore.

BBC newsnight continuing its political campaign against Brexit.

Did he disagree with collieries?

fascinatorfun Well if Raab could not realise how much UK trade crossed the channel its quite possible that no-one in government realised that Australia was on the other side of the world.

Distance IS important. Further distances add time, cost and greenhouse gas emmissions.

Oh him. The Guardian’s closet Tory.

“The beautiful countryside” is the byproduct of sheep farming that has deforested the landscape. It’s not natural.

fascinatorfun Spot on. Brexit zealots really have no idea about business realities. Small growing businesses simply do not have the resources to establish trade relationships with customers on the other side of the world. Flights cost thousands. It really is pathetic.

gibbsy66 Not rocket science me think.

gibbsy66 BLESSUP LOW CARBON EVERY NATION

mikecole1964 No shit! 🤦🏻‍♀️

😂 😂 That in its self is probably the most racist statement I've heard in a long time. He makes it sound like the only reason conservative hierarchy chose Rishi sunak was because of his heritage and families cinections. His claim eu trade has declined in the last 25 years...

No hit Sherlock!

It needs a professor to figure this out?

It’s not rocket science!

omid9 MarkUrban01 Omid jaan , Thanks for being such a great Role Model and a constant source of inspiration as an Artist. We will see That DAY together. mahsaami‌ni‌

Incredible Newsnight . No editors for this tripe ? First there's a slurring interviewer with a wrinkled self opinionated git trying to discuss science then no scientist to reply or discuss. No mention of Scotland being self sufficient in energy because of renewables oil and gas

The EU is the only 'Free Trade model' that attempts at making it politically, socio-economically and diplomatically sustainable. For the world to become a 'single market' in which labor & consumer protection is a thing ... the world needs to become more like the EU, not less.

Threaten it how - Visually? In comparison to what rising tides will do to it - I say put up the Windmills, shut down the windbags.

Helps A LOT having UK PM whose wife’s Indian Who’s parents are Indian Add present Home Secretary and previous HS both being of Indian descent Both have foreign-born Indian parents Indian’s biggest immigrant group in London Be the same if someone with British roots ruled India

wind turbines have a graceful majestic beauty and contribute to many landscapes. we national trust members dont agree with this person, please ignore him.

It's fine saying this on Newsnight but this sort of stuff has to be on BBCOne to educate people

I like the turbines - the juxtaposition, within rolling meadows, and dry stone walls, and viewed from an 8-lane highway, looks like the cover of a science fiction novel depicting a utopian future.

trade what graham gungadin bed who

He was the most pessimistic optimist I've ever heard!

MarkUrban01 Soon 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Climatechange and our carbonfootprint be damned, eh? How far away is the Republic of Ireland and France again? newsnight

I dread to think what the world will be like in 20 years with climate chaos. I wouldnt be putting all my eggs in the basket of India & other far flung areas.

More terrible than species extinction?

Another numpty talking bollocks lol. Transport costs are getting lower 🤪. Doesn’t he mind people laughing with derision at him? It’s almost sad.

WhelanKarl It’s obvious.

Of course it’s not if you give a fig for farming and fishing sectors and the 100’s of SME’s who now can’t afford to trade with the EU. Patrick Minford, Gudgin and BrexitCentral are happy to sacrifice UK producers, manufacturers and traders BrexitDeathCult

Who would have guessed that successful countries tend to do most of their trade with neighbouring countries 🤷‍♂️. Brexit was and will continue to be an economic catastrophe for Britain.

Did you ask him about his pre Brexit research ?

He’s lying of course

And they are in the same place with the EU.

Simon Jenkins is a nimby bellend and National Trust will not be getting any more donations from me. newsnight A few wind turbines are prefereable to scorched or flooded wasteland. Why not put them alongside motorways?

clueless

TBH there’s plenty of continental shelf to be developed first. I’m agnostic about onshore, but experience of doing onshore energy projects tells me it’s let’s hassle to go offshore. There’s always a nimby at hand, whether wind, gas or dealing with nuclear waste.

Probably why the EU is deepening its dialogue partnerships with India and Asia-Pacific nations. UK is conducting new dialogues on its own. Wonder who’ll get the bulk of trade on good terms ? A single country or an economic trade giant like the EU? 🤔

What is it to do with Simon Jenkins? Scots want. Inexpensive sustainable energy. Wind turbines are transitory, new energy sources will come along in time and they will go

Policy Exchange’s Graham Gudgin. Anti Catholic adviser to NI unionists. Massive right wing tool.

The British countryside is being pulverised by climatechange & Brexit. That already is & will become more ‘terrible’. simonjenkins needs to wake up Newsnight

Statement of the bleeding obvious

I’ve been bribed into believing that a wind turbine is better than an ocean on my bay window vista. I’m 560 feet above sea level

In other news, bears sh*t in the woods

Fuel poverty and climate change is also unsightly.

Trade with the European Union was probably beneficial to the Companies that did it, obviously the worker's who found it harder to find secure employment and a decent liveable wage didn't benefit and this is why they voted for brexit Newsnight trickle economics doesn't work 👎

This point was made ad nauseam by remainers for six years but Johnson ‘got Brexit done’ and ‘battled to save Christmas,’ and so here we are… Newsnight

Gravity model!

Goodness, what an entitled, privileged opinion! Never mind the climate crisis, what about the view from my window

What's the King's view?

What a load of old balls. Onshore wind farms have a massive part to play in energy security for this country going forwards in the future.

Can I get one of those bribes? I like turbines but if you pay me I'll pretend I don't and then pretend I do.

Nimby,” I don’t care about global warming, I’m ok”....

Climate change is a far worse threat, though.

MarkUrban01 I'm sure the Iranians are shaking in thier boots

omid9 MarkUrban01 So proud of you my man omid9

MarkUrban01 omid9 Thank you!

omid9 MarkUrban01 Omid is a big coward! He does not represent the people in Iran. He is just a puppet for Europeans and not welcome in Iran. IranianTraitor

omid9 MarkUrban01

omid9 MarkUrban01 I pray this comes to pass! 🙏

FardadFarahzad MarkUrban01 Good job Omid aziz . Mahsaamini

MarkUrban01 Let's hope so. Very eloquent, great job. omid9

omid9 MarkUrban01 Why do western leaders never end up at the Hague?

MarkUrban01 👏🏽 👏🏽 Spectacular job, omid9

nicholaswatt What happened to the professionalism, integrity and accountability Sunak promised?

BBCPolitics nicholaswatt For an excellent discussion on this including Raab’s use of NDAs to silence staff - at a cost of thousands to the taxpayer download 👇TheNewsAgents

i look forward to this guy's discussion of us foreign policy and intervention in 2026, surly he will be as vocal and loud

فردا حکم اعدام مجیدرضا_رهنورد اجرا میشه. از هر راهی بلدید صدای مجیدرضا باشید نذارید این اتفاق بیفته مجیدرضا_رهنورد

NazaninBoniadi MahsaAmini NikaShakrami AylarHaghi KianPirfalak 🖤😔💔 IranRevolution2581 PAHLAVI4IRAN

Then take political statements out of sport. Its not their place, if the sports person has an opinion, thats their opinion, they can protest by not taking part and can always say thanks for the invitation but I'd rather not lend my name to that event. And walk away respectfully.

A death sentence has been issued for Majidreza_Rahnavard, a young boy from Mashhad, Iran, who was arrested during the protests, and they want to execute him ASAP. Be his voice, his life is in danger. FoxNews UN CNN SayTheirNames majidrezarahnavard MahsaAmini FifaWorldCup

NazaninBoniadi Majidreza_Rahnavard is sentenced to death with false accusations and NO COURT within only a few days after being arrested protesting his rights in Mashhad, Iran. He has been tortured, his family has been threatened and his shop has been closed by IRI’s regime. Be his voice!

majidrezarahnavard was arrested during the revolutionary protests in Iran a last week, and is now falsely accused of murdering two security officers. He's been sentenced to death by hanging in public tomorrow. be his voice. he's innocent. مجیدرضا_رهنورد

NazaninBoniadi majidrezarahnavard was arrested during the revolutionary protests in Iran a last week, and is now falsely accused of murdering two security officers. He's been sentenced to death by hanging in public tomorrow. be his voice. he's innocent. مجیدرضا_رهنورد

BBCPolitics nicholaswatt Remainers in the Tory party are sabotaging the party so joining the EU will be easier.

NazaninBoniadi MajidReza Rahnavard is indicted by the Islamic Republic on the meaningless charge of “belligerence against God” which for medieval Mullahs is reason for execution. They had beaten him up that he was injured in all the photos they published of him after arrest. mahsaamini

BBCPolitics nicholaswatt who actually cares BBC ? i dont i care more about the invasion of our countries by an army in nike trainers. get a grip you spineless lot. thank god i cancelled my licence

پخش کنید، صدای رهنورد باشین😢 The life of Majidreza_Rahnvard is in danger. Be the voice of this Mashhad youth. His bag and shoe shop was confiscated and he himself was sentenced to execution. His family is being harassed day and night by the Basij militias and private outfits.

NazaninBoniadi R2PFREEIRAN R2PforIran

NazaninBoniadi Majidreza_Rahnavard is sentenced to death penalty and IR regime is going to act on it on Saturday 26 November. Please be his voice NazaninBoniadi mamadporii POTUS HNeumannMEP Mahsa_Amini

While the media is busy with the football match, in Zahedan, Iran, people are fighting for their basic human rights. They are shot and killed by the IRGC forces. Don't let another massacre take place in silence. Qatar2022 WALIRN

nicholaswatt Has anyone got a count of how many 'inquiries' have had to have been set up to investigate Ministers and Prime Ministers conduct since 2019?

nicholaswatt Bit like Jimmy Savile, eh, bbc ?

BBCPolitics nicholaswatt The civil service is out to get Raab with the full support of the BBC.

Omid is disappointed that the English players kneeled against racism? Ok. Well those of us who are against racism and wish it’s eradication are proud of them for their stance against racism!

BBCPolitics A former comedian from the 80s - did he escape with the Shah and his gold?

NazaninBoniadi They sang the Mullahs anthem loud & clear agnst Wales and celebrated for a goal ruled out by VAR as offside. omid9 no one celebrates a goal when 6 goals behind. These boys have sold their soles to the Islamic Republic. They are not with people end of the story مهسا_امینی

When are you running the Michelle Mone scandal story?

AminSabeti سلام امین جان دایرکتو چک میکنی لطفا؟

Selflbrity .. news news news,...when really, its all about me me me..

Yes, but I like the Pinball machine 😂

NazaninBoniadi The regime is trying to silence his voice and scare the Iranian people by arresting athletes and influential people in order to force people into giving up their fight for freedom MahsaAmini Mahsa_Amini مهسا_امینی IranRevoIution 1

BBCPolitics This is the football World Cup! People just want to watch and enjoy the football! Stop playing politics, stop the propaganda and stop playing us for fools!

AminSabeti Well said omid9 💪✌️

This is Iranian regime for you mahsaamini

NazaninBoniadi I am Iranian and i don't support Islamic regime team Islamic regime opened fire on unarmed people in Iran and killed a number of women and children Why has the world closed its eyes on the crime of the Mullah regime? THIS IS NOT OUR TEAM FIFAWorldCup Qatar2022 IranRevolution

NazaninBoniadi Well said OmidDjalali . It was a disappointment to see the UK team showed no solidarity with the people of Iran but wasn’t surprising at all. The UK government has a long and very cosy relationship with the Mullahs. Not to mention the role bbcpersian play!

I couldn't agree more. An Irish commentator said 'politics have dogged this world cup'! I was so disappointed in such a selfish attitude. This world cup was always going to be political as Omid said. Let's use the world stage for more than just entertainment opportunities

Getting sick of this journalistic right to ask political questions at a sports event. Enough.

Absolutely right ✅️

NazaninBoniadi Awesome 👏 Thanks Omid for talking so clear, direct and asking for real action rather than showing “empty gestures”so far Iranians have been getting from the world leaders and news ! IranRevolution

NazaninBoniadi omid9 You realize Team Melli is under constant threat right? They’re shadowed by regime thugs the entire time. Have some compassion for them. Queiroz is just trying to protect his players. Its a very terrible position. We are all in this together. The IR is the enemy to us all.

NazaninBoniadi Guess every event in England should be peppered with questions about the Iranian coup in the fifties and the Iraq war under Blair till parity is restored.

NazaninBoniadi

omid9 Very well said omid9 👊

Well said omid9 . Thank you. MahsaAmini

Totally pissed off with the politics of the world cup.

Whilst running at £3.4 BILLION profit! Come off it Jethwa, we know you and your mates are hoarding the resource. Starving young lecturers so you can have your fat cat bonuses? Not a good look. EnoughIsEnough ucuRISING

danroan Shaimaakhalil

omid9 England team really disappointed the Iranians-and their moral selves I hope. everything England's pretending to support such as equality & freedom of speech means nothing when the time comes and they don't show solidarity or any gesture. to be honest England morally failed deeply

nicholaswatt sacked in the morning, he's getting sacked in the morning!

omid9 Good on you Omid. Well done!

You're our hope omid9 مهسا_امینی IranRevolution2022 IranRevolution Mahsa_Amini IranRegimeChange

omid9 Thank you omid9 IranRevoIution MahsaAmini 👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️

nicholaswatt Clearly Raab should not be His Majesty’s Deputy Prime Minister but it would appear that with multiple rebellions brewing on planning, immigration, Brexit & wind power Sunak is too weak and vulnerable to fire him .

Time for this, but no time for claims Baroness Mone filched £29 million of taxpayers money Then again BBC was gung-ho on the Covid craze and NEVER subjected the BorisJohnson regime to ANY scrutiny during the Spend Spend binge

nicholaswatt A well placed official has told me the words you are looking for is Human Resources Nick. This has been confirmed by a unnamed source close to the BBC.

‘We asked the English tax payers for more of their money to fund our projects and the UK Government reminded us that we have control over our income tax rates and thresholds, even though we like to keep quiet about it, and asked why we don’t just raise taxes here’.

So now that the BBC cares about human rights I hope you're going to speak up against apartheid in Israel. You won't, of course. It's all propaganda, isn't it?

when you running the Michelle Mone scandal story?

maireadenright Not just lecturers!

MashaAmini SolidarityWithIranianAndKurdishWomen

Iranian's should absolutely support their sportsmen and women, not suppress them and keep them off the world stage, where they can & actually are shedding light on the atrocities of the Islamic Regime. The team showed immense bravery not singing or celebrating.

Solidarity with all the Iranian people, i hope they succeed in overthrowing the out of touch despots running that country IranProtests2022 Newsnight

ucuRISING Workers' rights + Students' rights ! We need to RenationaliseHigherEducation We_OwnIt but the ERGIEAUkipTories don't want regulations or tax or even Govt ! They want it all for themselves ToryCriminals eiecampaign GTTO GeneralElectionN0W

It's surely time for main architects in Scotland's separatist movement aka the shambolic waste of taxpayers £s - to b detained at His Majesty's pleasure! Sturgeon & co have deliberately mis-managed Scot' to make it appear to simple minded Yesers that being in 🇬🇧 Union is no good

But they can afford to pay vice chancellors vast amounts of money, for what?

The result of a small government that gives money without checking where the money goes within each sector. 'We give a records money'

She’s knows how negotiations work, right?

So how will the dream of iScotland support its own education system? Why has £320mill gone to 'Airmiles Angus' Robertson AngusRobertson for a Constitution Dept when that is reserved to Westminster?

The Conservative Government too busy siphoning billions to their mates michellemone PPEMedPro Newsnight

Ah yes, that old classic of devolved administrations: take all the credit for the fuzzy warm stuff and blame central government for anything imperfect.

nicholaswatt 'At all times I have acted with integrity & professionalism...' like the time when he remained on holiday for another 2 days during the evacuation of Afghan translators & other workers despite being told to return to the UK. Neither he nor Braverman should be anywhere near Govt.

nicholaswatt ... some officials offered therapy, paid for from the public purse ...

nicholaswatt More porn for the media types.

This is just insane beyond belief. We need a French revolution. The country has been utterly destroyed by a political class that has lost its mind

nicholaswatt A lot if DEFLECTION going on Ruth 🤔 Why not mention Swinney or Sturgeon?🤔

If I’ve read the Supreme Courts judgement properly, the ‘Union’ is not made up of voluntary partners. While NI has a mechanism to leave, Wales and Scotland are now officially vassal states. Some are happy with that, some not. The coin is spinning…

nicholaswatt So weak civil servants get told to do their jobs and scream they're being bullied. This is why this country is so fucked.

VincentCantrill nicholaswatt ToryCriminals ToryFascistDictatorship ToryCostOfGreedCrisis ToryLies ToryCriminalsUnfitToGovern ToriesOut140

nicholaswatt It was always known. When he returned to department civil servants were given option to move roles to avoid him.

Patrici89225734 nicholaswatt Sack the halfwit

nicholaswatt Why has UK government awarded the latest royal navy ship building contract to Spain

Why has UK government awarded the latest royal navy ship building contract to Spain

nicholaswatt The man who mouthed ‘w**ker’ across the floor of the House of Commons - quite a charmer ByeByeRaab

nicholaswatt Any analysis or in depth reporting on the radicalised extremist and white terrorist who was the suicide bomber in Dover ? Here’s a start for you ….. RacistScum

nicholaswatt Not only does UK have a Cabinet full of talentless individuals it is also made up of a cabal of bullies, sex pests, users, takers, sycophants and dishonest players! GeneralElectionNow EnoughIsEnough

nicholaswatt Civil servants complaining shocker

monicabeharding nicholaswatt If Rishi doesn’t dump him the people of esherandwalton will do the right thing

nicholaswatt I can’t keep up. Which Conservative politician are we hounding today? You seem to have a blind spot for actual criminals in Labour and the SNP.

vicderbyshire Best way to avoid mass immigration to UK is to stop meddling in other coutries affairs and flood them with arms.

We can all see yet another coordinated campaign by the left to take another government head. It's bollocks of the 1st order

Civil servants were mostly happy until Brexit. Since then, they've played their part most ably in the pro-EU Establishment's campaign to drag us back under the control on the Brussels cabal. They're only fooling the already fooled.

How is Raab still in post.🤔🤨 Torybullying

These people do not know what real work is. As a group that’s almost impossible to sack even after gross incompetence is it really surprising that they feel able to lie with impunity about their precious little feelings.

Two cheeks of the same lying corrupt anti democratic bottom. Red and blue Tories.SarahBoyack Miles4Lothian

Here’s a thing, why don’t we look after those who are suffering in this county first We have homeless people sleeping in shop doorways! The government is spending £7 million a day £7 million this should be spent on our own!

stephenbudd So Gavin Williamson, Suella Braverman, Priti Patel, Raab. Amongst others all bullied Civil Servants. Hell even when it was confirmed about Priti Patel no one was held accountable. This gov have gone rogue.

And why should she be coming to the UK? Are we to take in the entire world?

Tories are bullies. ToriesOut139 We need a GeneralElectionNow

vicderbyshire When will someone say that it’s not just up to the Scottish people. Because of Faslane and its importance to UK and NATO security everyone should have a say about Scottish independence!

nicholaswatt Will Sunak stand by his promise of professionalism, integrity & accountability? OR Will Sunak standby those who stood by him to become PM? Raab & Bravermanhave much in common with Williamson🤔Evidence of bullying, misconduct & incompetence is overwhelming, AND dreadful policies!

Complete nonsense. The Scottish people engaged in politics in a way they never had before. Conversations in groups and in pubs, and a supportive environment. What was bleak was Unionists rioting in George Square to celebrate their victory.

nicholaswatt First we had Leaky Sue and now we have Leaky Raab an alleged bully? 👇

WHen i was a civil servant, we just got on with the job. if we were asked to do something, we did it.

vicderbyshire

RishiSunak if you don't sack DominicRaab then you'll be seen to condone Bullying and we'll never forget. The French term is more meaningful HarecelementMoral - bullying is a v serious charge + shld never be tolerated by anyone.

thankfully these people are in a union and have support something raab and his mob want to get rid ov

OMG is Crankie still shouting Freeeeeeedom 😳

How many people are there in the world who might be regarded as eligible to seek asylum? There are over 2 billion people living under oppressive regimes, so how is asylum a realistic answer to that problem?

We should be able to decide how many people we take in one year

Perhaps if Britain didn’t get involved with or supply weapons to countries in conflict there wouldn’t be people feeling the need to come here for safety. NoMoreWar

So the left leaning civil service joining together in a hatchet job and then Labour mouthpiece Penman (great name for a civil servant union rep BTW) jumps in behind the faux outrage. About as convincing as a Croatian penalty appeal.

An alternative view 👇

Tory corruption. Britain where democracy goes to die. Support Scottish democracy. ScottishDemocracy

Watch the clip of how Raab reacted to the father of Harry Dunn when approached at a Hustings and you will see everything you need to know about the man's true character.

Just showing up on a dinghy after chucking your passport in the English channel is de facto legal since there are absolutely no consequences.

did the european union dictate weather or not the british have a say if britain should leave the european union ?🤔

8 years ago. Lots of things have changed since then.

blairmcdougall The tide of public opinion has definitely swung towards independence. Scots don't like being told they are subservient and not sovereign... Are we in a partnership of equals (joke) or an English colonial prison? The time is NOW Scotland... ScottishIndependence 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Unless its for Ukraine

Crazy,

Entirely the opposite the public became engaged , as shown by the turnout. I believe Scotland’s rejection today will see the same again , the end is coming for 🇬🇧Union and London governance .

Last of the colonies.

Maybe we need the SNP to walk away to allow this generation to experience some time under Labour & Tory Yes Men/Women/Others doing the bidding of their London Masters. GOD HELP US😡😷

Aye .. for all the together lies.

It was. Division, hate, vitriol, all driven by a needless, ranting nationalistic rhetoric that's left Scotland in a perilous position. Let's not go there again.

This same Miles Briggs that won’t engage with the public 🫣 I want to hear about his Union benefits 🤔

BBC Newsnight - the voice of the English Government And always was

It would be interesting to know how many Civil Servants we have actually working on this issue. It seems that many Civil Service departments are being pared back to the point that they can barely function

Miles Briggs says less than 33% of Scots want another Referendum. I could aggre with that considering Mr B & his London Masters have impoverished the other 66% to the point they only have time for Heating, Eating & Keeping a Roof over their Heads😡😷

vicderbyshire Why aren't your videos subtitled?

Why would she even want to?

Shambles151 Totally disgusting that this bullying kept under wraps for so long. Hope Raab gets the sack

They literally set the precedent for the process in 2014, and now they're trying to push it through before Labour get back in power. The opinion polls are split, so no guarantee of a comfortable majority - so your left with a divided country regardless. Sound familiar?

No Democracy Spoke - the SNP - are political toddlers .. whining .. the peoples will - ignored again and again

Says man who demands a once-in-a-generation referendum to be held every eight years and wants to rejoin the utterly undemocratic EU.

nicholaswatt The man is evil personified & his father would be spinning in his grave if he could see how his son has turned. Considering the suffering his father probably went through escaping Nazi Germany that he appears to lack any compassion is scary, Very Scary🤔😷

He has a short memory. In 2014 the Scots voted to remain in the UK. Democracy in action.

nicholaswatt Care for overpaid civil servants who help the government bully the poor? No more than for sex affairs between politicians from all parties who have screwed voters. Westminster and Whitehall bore a public with record low trust in a system that has failed millions for decades.

We knew that, it's why we never got Brexit.

Clearly not politically motivated at all?

nicholaswatt How DominicRaab bullyin anybody!?! 😅 What kinda wimp gets bullied by this guy!?! DominicRaab 😂😂😂

nicholaswatt Is he a bully?

nicholaswatt Perfectly obvious that just as with his House of Lords comments this is simply a cynical attempt to buy back the trust and votes of Red Wall Brexiteers.

nicholaswatt I'm sure there are those against immigration on...let's say ideological grounds. FoM has inherent problems i can understand but having a sensible and compassionate immigration policy just makes sense. Business, services and growth need it - we all benefit.

nicholaswatt Playing my tiny, tiny violin for all the People's vote, FBPE, Keir Starmer fans this evening 🎻

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BenChu_ Ellieljacobs If the Oppressive Tory Party can’t get white, British to fill labour vacancies, trading them for willing migrant workers would be more economically sound. They could carve out new careers on Jeremy Kyle Rwanda or live freely on a ranch with Nigel Farage.

BenChu_ Ellieljacobs Labour's immigration stand point.. They want to get people from this country into work, before hiring cheap labour from god knows who. We've lost the plot if you argue this. We truly have.

He also assk dthe question off Ukrainians commiting war crimes too... And I do believe we saw people handcuffed to lamposts not so long ago, retribution is still a war crime.

They are the same fk'g race. They are all slavs. Those ppl that were being killed in Donbass by Ukrainian slavs are the decedents of Holodomor. The Bolsheviks never tire of fk'g war. That is who is behind a lot of global bs. Are you Bolshevik, BBC?

He did himself no favours. He believed he could go on BBC TV news, and lie with impunity. 🙄

Pure evil, nothing less.

Why does he look like someone put an age filter on Kyle Rittenhouse?

He's another Lexiter. They're racists

What we need is an education system that is fit for purpose. Young people are being betrayed and the consequences are that they are unfit for many jobs on offer.

just more propaganda, I refuse to fund by the way of a TV tax, The BBC is not your friend.

He's quite creepy!

Hmm....UK, war crimes. Rings a bell

Pot calling the kettle black.

UncleObama_ These tits are now the Opposition😂😂😂

Trying to con the City is a bad mistake

Your dad would be ashamed Stephen, utterly ashamed.

BBCNews I guess it’s worth the official notification but these mindless Putin robots will never see or hear the truth.

Vile individual

☝️ Apparently a Nobel Prize winning Economist doesn't agree with that narrative 👇

vicderbyshire My husband is a doctor who studied medicine in Pakistan, sat for exams in UK & was able to work here legally. When are you people reducing tuition fees for medical studies so home grown talent can afford to study in UK & so international talent is not needed here? Please tell me.

Ukraines Neo-Nazis have been committing war crimes since 2014 when the conflict began. Supported by UK US War criminals. I'm sure you've heard of Donbas?

Younger people & families meanwhile have to trade this off against the opportunity to live, work and study abroad and businesses, exporters have a handbrake of extra red tape where a slightly tighter enforcement of EU law would have got similar outcomes:

BBCNews “Russian rumour, labelling, nicknaming and public view enginiering desire is more Indian than European”

tactics are defeating purpose as UKLabour chases a dying demographic. (and being borderline bigoted, at the same time.) British citizens are much better than this ugly Labour game play. please provide an opposition to the nasty party, don't ape it. Keir_Starmer WrongTurn

What he or Starmer doesn't explain is the low population growth without immigration. Where do the employees come from thin air. Immigration is part of business and public services and without it our country would be collapsing. This is wrong and just panders to the right wing.

Absolutely disgraceful of the bbc to give this person a platform just to spout shit / hatred & lies . What was the point of this interview

Wow. The new nasties. What an ungrateful b***ard for saying immigrants are undermining people!

I can't think of a more Ukip policy.

JoeEDwyer 'If thats true...' would a BBC presenter ever approach an interview with a Government minister saying something like that to an answer 🤔 Newsnight

vicderbyshire Interview of Russian Ambassador by Victoria was appalling. There was nothing journalistic about her interview. She would not let him answer questions properly or at all and would appear to have been reading from a prearranged script regardless! Embarrassing not enlightening…

Solidarity with Mick Lynch and RMT workers. Newsnight

BBCNews Pretty sure the UK invasion of Iraq in 2003 was much more significant and we did have the president of that country murdered. I don't recall any sanction then though - similar in Libya & Serbia - apparently when our government murders its ok, cos we are NATO members

rositastef God..another Tory plant!

vicderbyshire So it is a War! Victoria 6 Him 0

vicderbyshire More labour Jesus christ is this what labour has become? A policy endorsed by Farage FFS

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Owned x

vicderbyshire Loving Victoria taking on the feral RussianEmbassy Ambassador tonight.

Fantastic interview by vicderbyshire

load of utter horseshit. Exactly what skills development is there to be provided in the hospitality and food & drink sector that Labours plan refers to? Perhaps some of the 5.5m economically inactive can be “incentivized” back to work. We then won’t need the migration question

Well done Victoria, proper fearless journalist doing her job.

vicderbyshire Victoria got the toady sweating.

vicderbyshire North Atlantic Terrorist Organisation.

This is a man on the verge of nervous collapse

The Russian Ambassador to the UK surely...or why are you reading out a list of crimes to our Ambassador to Russia?

vicderbyshire We have a points based system now no?

Victoria families just for christmas Derbyshire!

Well done vicderbyshire !

Fantastic interviewing, really pushing to expose the inconsistencies in the Russian arguments. I am thankful for most weekdays and delighted that vicderbyshire is doing her brilliant stuff.

I'm sick of these overpaid glorified bus drivers holding the country to ransom. Can we just get self driving trains already?

Well done Victoria 👏👏👏

This is what the conservatives were saying around 12 years ago...Newsnight

MickLynch ✊ Support the rail workers. Support all workers. ToriesOut

This guy looks and sounds as confused about the policy as Victoria is but has to tow the party line by the sound of it. Poor chap. 🤔

Wow, Stephen Kinnock justifying this anti business, anti-immigration and by inference an anti internationalist anti growth policy. Weird that in the spooky world of focus-group politics that UKLabour has got here. Please re-think Keir_Starmer

That end was just so beautiful

He looked very nervous. He looks like he's treading a very fine line and not wanting polonium 210 in his team.

Are BBC presenters trained in interrupting? Firing questions and interrupting every answer is SO annoying!

RMT Union Leader Mick Lynch crushed the opposition again on Newsnight

I thought vicderbyshire did a fantastic job interviewing this guy , how he sleeps at night is beyond me. Great job Victoria !

Lynch is excellent

BBCNews RussiaIsATerroristState

Remember the Honourable SKinnock is ONLY there because of his father, Welsh windbag, Baron Neil Kinnock Two-time UKLabour Leader election loser Replaced by John Smith, whose daughter BBCsarahsmith is leading politics editor at the BBC Family matters …especially on the Left

Remember you reported with evidence about Ukrainian Neo Nazis? Thank you something i learn from you. But why you trying to lie to us now?

Passengers need GAURDS! Seen them deal with beligerent drunks harrassing people on the train, helping elderly get off and on trains with courtesy, calming down angry people helping people get to the correct seat, even get on the right train and helping disabled🤷‍♀️They keep us SAFE

Go Victoria. 💪

So many afraid people on here. Sad days for humanity. We rule the earth, not your political hero’s.

BBCNews Why is he even in the country? Send them all home.

Not intense...she isn't an fair reporter. ALSO...Y ARE MOST ADVISORS AND INFLUENCERS IN MEDICINE ON TV FOREIGN!? CANT U FIND A BRITISH PERSON TO SPOUT UR BS NARRATIVE

She's a UK government puppet....n never let's anyone finish talking. Typical Woman 🙄😆

That was chilling, she did well.

BBCNews

Like his dad, who opposed the EU, then became a commissioner, Kinnockio's rightist past renders trust in him a tall order. Labour ducks £15 hourly minimum pay, agreed at its conference, and inflation proof wage rises. Will Starmer hit benefits to force people into poverty jobs?

His dad will be throwing up

Ugh.

I'm politically homeless thanks to Starmer. Said for years he's a Tory plant! Labourisdead Britain now has 2 Tory parties. Depressing Victoria-Derbyshire. Much as I respect you/your work and views. ToryStarmer etc al.

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Go vicderbyshire

The hospitality sector needs staff NOW! Not in 2 years. Talk to Cruella Braverman & ask HER what she intends to do Now to allow the sector to grow. God help them if they have to wait Two years till the General Election in the hope the Tory’s get Binned🤔😷

mrjamesob please tell me you are watching this ? UKLabour are just making a total mess of everything.. are they trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!? Victoria dismantled the new migration plan in 30 secs .. obvious right wing pandering is pathetic we need honesty

“Appears”🤭 Hard to believe BBC credibility could sink any lower after maitlis and lewis_goodall Clear vicderbyshire took that as a challenge Being TeamUkraine a BIG handicap to objective journalism

The Trump of Labour fallacy.

Time to send in the big guns SarahAMcInerney

This man should be expelled, effective immediately, from the UK. He is a liar, and is playing his part in covering up genocide carried out by Russia.

This isn't the first story you're covering so why tweet now, not that you're the sharpest when it comes to tweeting Newsnight

White is black.

What is the point of having this man on. He will parrot the Putin bollocks

BBCNews One piece of the genocide is the removal of children to russia and adoption into russian families. Please don't forget these kids. KidsBackUkraine UkraineStolenChildren

It's hardly worth having him on.

Do you believe that USA 🇺🇸 and UK 🇬🇧 have committed war crimes during the Iraq 🇮🇶 invasion and Afghanistan 🇦🇫 ? That's the real question

vicderbyshire Generally a good programme insofar as it revealed why people wanted to leave Albania. I waited to hear why these folk wanted to come to the UK rather than elsewhere. Perhaps I missed something but this important question was not answered and not even asked. Very odd.

vicderbyshire Yes the Wales game against USA was brilliant and well hosted by itv , concentrating on Football throughout and Pundits focusing on Football for the majority!

vicderbyshire He should thank the calf. 😁

vicderbyshire 😂😂😂

vicderbyshire Huge opportunities in the UK.... we all know what they are and its not working in car washes.

vicderbyshire Pull the udder one

vicderbyshire Why are the Qataris and FIFA afraid of a rainbow?

vicderbyshire Most of the team did, too, first half

vicderbyshire Was kinda thinking i was gonna hear him say something along the lines of sending undercover agents into the places these gangs operate and arrest these people at point where money is handed over. Then he started talking....

vicderbyshire In France, they are already in paradise vs Albania. So what's so attractive about UK? BBC should have asked that because therein lies the answer.

vicderbyshire He's a rugby referee. Why should he be interested in football?

vicderbyshire And the fact that too many, just like this man, do not give a toss about Albania and are ONLY interested in their own pockets, lined by bribes and dodgy deals!

vicderbyshire It's obvious why they are leaving Albania. But you didn’t ask the main question: Why are they leaving France? UK takes 5.5 times as many as EU avge.

vicderbyshire Corruption. Lack of any future if don't either have the money or know the right people. Food prices through the roof and at time more expensive than here in uk, yet the average way is a fraction of ours.

vicderbyshire He was a fantastic referee and missed for sure

vicderbyshire For a start they're getting free lodgings and food and heating, electric, not too bad is it Newsnight

vicderbyshire Playing in the World Cup finals is the pinnacle of any players short career. FIFA are happy to jeopardise this and use them as sticks to beat away any opposition. I think the FA’s were right to shield the players from FIFA …the protectors of World football.

You are a guest in their culture. If you don't like it, don't go. No one gaf this...

vicderbyshire English and Welsh Footballers could of worn the onelove arm bands but have no bottle Newsnight WorldCup QatarStateofFear

vicderbyshire Sounds more interesting 👍Fifa world cup 👎Newsnight

vicderbyshire Haha love it.

vicderbyshire oh god, not him

Absolutely but the players should have stuck to it on principle. All the nations competing as well as FIFA are complicit in turning a blind eye to LBGT+ and Human Rights violations for the sake of money. It’s a disgrace in this day and age!

LGPT issues touches a deep religeous fundmentals in the region...should try to ram it ... equates refusing God .. by refusing the scripture...

BBCJoeInwood According to all international protocols, the use of 'nerve gas' in Javnroud is a clear example of a war crime. As a citizen of Iran, I request the international community to use the R2P law. MahsaAmini

BBCJoeInwood The dimensions of the Javanrud disaster are more terrible than it seems. The floor of the city is filled with corpses and wounded, among them there are many children. Please choose humanity over silence and bring their voices to the world. MahsaAmini IranReveloution

BBCJoeInwood Según todos los protocolos internacionales, el uso de 'gas nervioso' en Javnroud es un claro ejemplo de crimen de guerra. Como ciudadano de Irán, solicito a la comunidad internacional que utilice la ley R2P. MahsaAmini

BBCJoeInwood إن أبعاد كارثة جافانرود أفظع مما تبدو. تمتلئ أرضية المدينة بالجثث والجرحى ومن بينهم أطفال كثيرون ، يرجى اختيار الإنسانية على الصمت وإيصال أصواتهم إلى العالم. مهسا_امینی

BBCJoeInwood Not sure why they come here as you no we have to have money plus a place to live 💥💥

He will be over the moon when he realises govt doesn't even need to 'borrow' to invest; govt can issue directly as much £ as there are resources to buy (with the £), so a great deal more £ is safely available, right now, for everything he rightly proposes. Someone tell him!

stiptop1 Spot on! Without it we will continue the continuing trajectory down the U bend of history.

stiptop1 Spot on! Without it we will continue the continuing trajectory down the U bend of history.

Wrong. There is no need to borrow to invest .🤷🏼‍♂️

One word I would NOT use to describe Musk is incompetence… Pretty small pool of people who could purchase a company for $44BILLION. He’ll work the kinks out…

The political establishment in capitalist countries will always mislead the public about finances; public and private. I'm sure they wouldn't find a public platform any other way.

and he's absolutely correct...

WE DON'T NEED TO BORROW!!! WE HAVE A SOVEREIGN CURRENCY!!! WE JUST GENERATE MONEY ELECTRONICALLY!!! WHAT DO YOU THINK QE IS!!! WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN!!!//

What are the consequences of this?

His fellow contributor ,a former Tory advisor concluded the UK has been over financialised for too long The problem is how to grow its economy,rUk has a population of 63 million with relatively few natural resources. Independent Scotland 5million and plenty. You Yes Yet?

dannypowell67 He's right. And it's what should have been happening, at historically low cost, for the last decade. But that sensible move was decried by *you* BBC, and the rest of our rightwing media. So we've got a lost decade at least to look forward to.

OmarBaggili

World leftists are crying. Our turn is coming.

Adrian Chiles says 'You know' TWENTY SEVEN TIMES in a short interview! And he's drinking alcohol-free lager. Difficult to believe a highly paid BBC journalist and presenter cannot talk properly without so many 'fillers'! (Adrian, we DON'T know which is why we tune in!)

vicderbyshire What does the BBC know, it’s not exactly a shining light! Covers the truth - forked tongue!

“What we can do is borrow to invest”.. Andrew Fisher clearly hasn't been paying attention to what Labour have been saying.. Rachel Reeves has repeated over and over “What we can do is borrow to invest”.. so what is the point of Mr Fisher going on Newsnight and parroting Reeves.

Monetary sovereign countries can, if they want to, spend money to train more doctors and nurses, spend money to develop new medical drugs, spend money to develop new treatments, spend money to implement green policies & so on.

Probably not the most astute plan to get a quote from the upstart competitor regarding the downfall of the behemoth. He’s not wrong though. Twitter is literally on fire.

Why are left and right sound swapped in this video?

So far Mr Rochko's leadership style has driven Mastodon's user base to 0.25% that of Twitter.

This guy is very talented. If he would just become slightly more pragmatic, he would also be effective.

FisherAndrew79 You forgot to mention rise in corporate taxes. Even Rishi Sunak said two years ago that he would apply the Amazon tax (two years from 2021, which is around thi time) and no one mentiones it!

What about increasing taxes to corporates? Why no one remembers that Rishi Sunak suggested the Amazon tax two years ago and said that he would apply it around this time?

Well said. Sadly, far too sensible for this shower in govt.

I don't do football, or beer, but this Qatar/FIFA changing the agreed 'rules' at the last moment is deplorable. As many others have observed it makes all 'promises' from Qatar subject to doubt. This World Cup is headed for disaster.

£12 for a Budweiser would push anyone to a cup of tea...

Mr Pepsi probably thinks Mr Coke is a big meanie too. The blue twitter check brigade spent 4 or 5 years demonising every alternative to twitter, and now they don't want to lie down in the bed they made.

I imagine they play better when sober?

vicderbyshire Not that he is biased in any way…

He's highly unlikely to say any different. I'd bet that 99% of newly opened Mastodon accounts will be untouched by Christmas as Twitter will just carry on and improve. Name me one thing that's different about it, people are acting like they're losing a close relative, it's an app

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Another crestfallen, liberal book burner trying to monopolise the narrative... Level playing field now.. Bring it.. Cant stand the heat then get out of the kitchen..

It’s ok to ban Budweiser to be fair

Obvs he’d say that…

If there's 2.5 million long term sick, borrowing to fix the NHS is an investment. If cost of energy pushed people to negative disposable income, renewable energy is an investment, as is insulation.

Borrowing to invest essential, what other economically successful G7 countries do. Truss's borrowing to give tax breaks to the wealthy - the height of Tory madness, & the markets told her so. Thank goodness Andrew Fisher made his point, or I would have had nightmares tonight.

greenmitty

Typical Labour, borrow to invest.

Corbyn 2,0 ?

I'm surprised he's still in a job with poor judgement like that. What on earth did he think these think tank, UKIP grifters (the tory party) stood for exactly?

icelandrichard So when will you be taking responsibility for the downturn and resigning? After all, you were happy to take the cash when things went well. Vote Leave not so clever now eh?

I really don’t think Sherelle J knew what she was blethering about..

I don’t understand y he is a prospective Tory candidate for 2025. Y doesn’t he become a LP candidate or even Lib Dem…has he not seen what the Con crew has become in the last few years?

I wonder how many times the OBR mentioned Brexit in their report?

Hmmmm...

Iceland does best in times of austerity. He has a whole kitchen appliance range cornered for the cheapest food, and the last decade has seen his business boom, hence the conservative candidacy.

vicderbyshire They only get it right 95% of the time, disgraceful when they should be praising all our Brexit benefits and promoting Minford for Sainthood.

vicderbyshire 'Wrong' is sort of the wrong word. No forecast is going to be 100% accurate. BBC Weather might say it's going to rain at 3pm and it rains at 4pm, the BBC isn't 'wrong' so much as it's inaccurate.

vicderbyshire Some people say they get them wrong ALL of the time, OBR says they don’t always get it right, like most forecasts. IN this the OBR are correct and the naysayers wrong.

vicderbyshire We're run by technocrats, not elected politicians.

vicderbyshire So they get them consistently wrong and are no better than other forecasters. Great.

BBCPolitics vicderbyshire The single quickest/easiest thing to do to start to dig the UK out of this ever-worsening economic doom-spiral is to re-join the EU single market and customs union. But Brexiteers would rather impoverish a nation for decades rather than simply admit they were wrong.

vicderbyshire Pandemic and war in the Ukraine affects all other countries as well. Is this your only excuse?

BBCPolitics vicderbyshire Hard Left Derbyshire Propaganda

vicderbyshire Oh, someone at the BBC is still alive and doing the job. Refreshing.

I'll take notice of icelandrichard's warm, comforting words when he manages to apologise for his idiotic backing of Brexit, which is crippling UK businesses. Seems he didn't know what he was voting for. When will we hear him say 'sorry'? Newsnight

I bet that's a lie, he'll just cook the books like a lot of business will, to not appear like they're profiteering while the poor suffer Newsnight IcelandFoods

I wonder why?

vicderbyshire This clown chooses to blame the pandemic and the war in Ukraine instead of what we all know to be the twin culprits - Tory austerity and Brexit. And here he is with Sunak and Hunt, literally gloating at the anti-growth measures these utter charlatans are introducing. Newsnight

vicderbyshire Brexit kills growth and goes unrecognised, so no I cannot believe a word Tories say about the economy!

vicderbyshire Hey beeb, remember when you pushed importance of lockdowns and silenced anyone saying the economical consequences would be horrific? Yeah? How about I won't listen a word you say about the economy.

BBCPolitics vicderbyshire Almost got him, good to see, but he just kept withering on and not answering the central point It’s hard to imagine loathing these disingenuous, lying, incompetent toerags any more than I do. I’m sure they’ll find a way to get me there but . . . So sick of this

BBCPolitics vicderbyshire Leftie nonsense impartiality Ofcom BBCMonitoring

vicderbyshire This government is not serious about growth, if they were they’d call the railway companies to account for their appalling service.

vicderbyshire For those preferring journalism to propaganda... 'TAXING TIMES: How we got to economic ruin.'

vicderbyshire That’s because being a left wing presenter she’s got selective memory and that’s from someone who isn’t a Tory voter….. 🇬🇧💂🏼‍♂️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 God save the King….

vicderbyshire Never heard of this clown . Anyone would think other countries did not experience a pandemic . How have they managed to bounce back & we haven’t?

vicderbyshire how sad JohnGlenUK exploits the pandemic and usual Tory bullshit as deflection

No she doesn't.

Does this mean his family will stop making large donations to the Tory party ? Doubt it.

Oh no!

OBR chair Richard Hughes said there is no lasting consequences of the Truss Kwarteng mini budget. Oh dear! He needs to try telling that to people having to find new mortgages.

The obvious part of today's budget was a deliberate attempt to kick the can down the road so the next government (ie probably Labour) has to deal with the cuts in public services spending.

..and if the other two are examples of the calibre of so-called experts from the press and economic 'think-tanks', we're in a even worse state than I thought! Who on earth agreed to book them?

Laying the ground to sack staff so he doesn't have to pay so many the higher NLW!

Yet again vicderbyshire demonstrating she is the best presenter on Newsnight. Great! Yet again JohnGlenUK demonstrating that no Tory minister can give an honest answer as to why the UK is the only G7 nation that has not returned to pre COVID growth levels. Truly awful!

vicderbyshire Less is more more or less?

Victoria the 🐘 in the room is Brexit. Brought to you by Sky News, Boris and the Tories

Yes. He did say that didn't he

Grateful you are not sharing footage of the other 2 guests speaking - couldn’t bear to watch it again

EVERYBODY PAYS TAX Even those paid below the living wage pay tax on FUEL, ENERGY, FOOD all have tax applied & 20% VAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T PAY TAX are WEALTHY TAX AVOIDERS THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO MONEY IT DISTRIBUTES OUR TAXES When taxes are shortn STOP all nonsocial expenditure

VERY high blink rate shows ThangamMP is lying hard. newsnight

Well it's a good thing he backed Brexit so he will get all those benefits which will be arriving any second now.. Any second Just you wait, such benefits....... Any second....

Just the 71m last year tho.

Labour's plan for investment, renewables and growth? In 1:13 no less... And the plan for investment, renewables and growth is... to dodge the question on tough fiscal decisions on tax against current global fiscal pressures and to sink more money into wind, solar and tidal...

Didn't this bloke recommend Brexit to the UK?

icelandrichard hopefully IcelandFoods goes bust because you have raised your prices by 30% CostOfGreedCrisis CostOfLivingCrisis Newsnight

Why do we have a Govt so willing to splash taxes on energy support, yet so completely slow to invest in building energy efficiency? Is it stupidity? It’s not as if its conceptually hard or novel. People were irritatingly gluing themselves to roads to make this point 2 yrs ago.

Renewable energy BS.

Er, which political party got us into a worse recession than every other country in Europe?! And how, exactly (bearing in mind that they've had Covid/Ukraine/etc., too)? Clue: six letters, begins with B.

The only thing which is a guarantee is if Labour ever got back into power then 5 years later when they get kicked out the country would be broke, unemployment through the roof and the list goes on, happened every time they’ve left power. Ps I have no allegiance to any petty💂🏻‍♂️🇬🇧

Another TORY TREASURY spokes person who doesn't understand how the economy works The economy is not hamstrung by COVID work regimes It's hamstrung because there are NO GROWTH PLANS Many Tory MPs have never worked & don't have the faintest idea how manufacturing or commerce works

I read this as workhouse....

She's outlined nothing of the sort. As ever, it's pie-in-the-sky nonsense from Labour. No plans or policies, no funding or costings, no idea whatsoever. Hard to believe anyone is falling for this.

Where is the plan for growth? Taxing businesses and shareholders in to oblivion and reducing capital allowances does NOT drive growth.

Whats NOT happening UK Millionaires are NOT being taxed significantly more HS2 is NOT being financed by PRIVATE equity Nuclear P/S are NOT being financed by PRIVATE equity Immigrants are NOT being processed efficiently NO Tory GROWTH PLAN NO Tory manning plan for the NHS

They are off sick. Try sorting the NHS out first so they can get better

She’s so far to the left she’ll fall over, no one can answer a question especially if your a Tory before gob all mighty butts in, the sooner the BBC licence is scrapped the better… then hopefully it’ll be the last we hear of her and other like her….🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💂🏻‍♂️🇬🇧

Vicky Derbyshire pretending to give a 5H173. How’s Brexit going across the water btw? 😅

Pay a true living wage and people will fill the vacancies, scrap zerohourcontracts Newsnight

We need a bit more than that. UK is worst of G7.

…That’s what the previous PM and Chancellor said. Growth Growth Growth Deliver Deliver Deliver Blah Blah Blah

Swap ‘recognised’ for ‘underlined’ and it maybe helps you a little.

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sima_kotecha Someone out there in BBC journalism should mention out loud the proposed hike in fuel duty,if true,from March next year not mentioned in the statement,it’s going to break some folks if it’s correct ,sure the viewers would love to know either way…over to you,

sima_kotecha Not entirely surprised to see Glasgow near the top of that list :(

Muhammad Qasim saw the spiritual ranks of Prophets in a dream in 2009. Prophet Muhammad SAW has the highest rank, followed by Prophet Ibrahim AS and then other Prophets of Allah SWT. Qasim’s dreams are blessed and warn us of events in the future.

Thank you Tory overlords for making everyone to pay for you're pretend economics.

DavidGauke How effed are our finances when we’re already spending 20% less per person on health than our counterparts and we still have spending pressures.

He didn’t even chase Maradona!

BREXSHIT! Tory love fest! Austerity mark 2. Is that it tax more and cut spending! What a joke of a government! They've had there hands in the till for 12 years!😡🤬

When media talk about Tories Labour decisions affecting the Electorate, perhaps they could remember we are first & foremost the Paymasters of Servants of the Public, aka MPs. We go without while the Servants continue with their basic £84k Salary + Expenses + Pension and more.

No reporting on Newsnight during the UK economy of this from today's Commons Treasury Committee WARNING Brexit word used ... 'Brexit and drop in workforce harming economic recovery, says Bank governor' that is the governor of the Bank Of England.

Ex tory minister- austerity tainted, times economist-tory paper, Financial Times- capitalist paper. Where’s the balance? A bit of criticism from conservative voices isn’t balanced journalism. Switched off.

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When Gauke spoke of govt needing to recruit more staff, neither he nor Walk dare mentioned why it is that previous staff, especially NHS, left jobs in their droves. Poor wages, yes of course. But Brexshit has also been a big driver. They just won’t say it. Newsnight

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Is it in all honesty, too much to expect politicians who are not money grabbing, lying and incompetent? We need a GE Now. ImACeleb

Mark Urban doing his SIS best to spin the dubious NATO line that it wasn't a Russian missile. Will Ukrainian investigators be allowed on-site then? If not, why not?

I see Newsnight are once again interfering in the affairs of Sovereign nations. Leave Iran alone and concentrate on the shitshow that is unfolding back home. Impending tax rises, record inflation, Austerity, fascism against refugees, it's endless.

The Mujahideen managed to force Russia out of Afghanistan when they were given Stinger missiles, which Ukraine have been given in abundance so they should be able to do the same turningpoint Newsnight

katelamble Maybe you could have explained that « gender » is a meaningless term while sex is a biological reality and is binary and immutable in humans? Or don’t you bother reporting facts any more? SexNotGender

katelamble Read Cass. Live in reality.

KirstyWark Ofsted's role is to inspect schools, to ensure that schools are educating children on behalf of their parents. It is a parent's responsibility by law to choose how children are educated. Schools are failing children. Ofsted are failing children by not sorting out schools.

AnnaCollinson Schools are failing children. Sort out schools first and then maybe fewer people would have to home educate.

katelamble It means the indoctrination of kids into thinking there is something wrong with them because they are LGB, autistic or gender non conforming, and to fix it they have to medicate & be castrated. It's child abuse on a massive scale scotlandsshame

katelamble The legal recognition & replacement of sex with Gender ie sexist notions in the definitions of male/boy/man female/girl/woman is akin to redefining the words white/black/brown (as descriptive of racial background) with racist notions. nothankyou sexnotgender repealtheGRA

BrittaFreud katelamble Has Scottish parliament legally recognized souls?

katelamble Are you also considering the effect on women and girls, especially given that sex offenders will be permitted to apply for a GRC?

katelamble Why is the conflict between womens rights and trans rights not mentioned?

katelamble Sex not gender. Fact not feelings.

KirstyWark You need to hold the professionals to account to fix the system, not to aid and abet them to pretend they don't know what's happening. Schools, CAMHS and EHCPs need fixing meanwhile children and parents with SEN are breaking. They know who & where we are. Help us.

katelamble What a disaster for women and girls. Shameful.

katelamble Don't mention the W-word.

katelamble When the Law enshrines fantasy as fact, we are all in serious trouble.

AnnaCollinson It's disingenuous for 'experts' to pretend they don't know why children are homeschooled. The needs of SEN children are not met in schools. Fix schools, CAMHS and EHCPs. Do not come to count us, blame us or tell us what to do when it's the system that has broken us and we pay.

katelamble I'm just curious, if a boy/man legally changes their gender to female and then get a woman/ girl knocked up, how do they get written on the birth certificate? And does this affect a child maintenance claim if they spent together? How would the child find their father when older?

katelamble anybody looking at what it means for safeguarding?

AnnaCollinson Not sure which is worse, harm done by home schooling or harm done by our woke lefty education system. My guess is the latter.

katelamble Sturgeon will go down in history as enabling one of the worst mental health pandemics with vulnerable young people being ideologically convinced their problems will be fixed by changing their sex. And you’re role Newsnight ? Pity given your previous work on the Tavistock fiasco.

katelamble Your hatred for women and girls is obvious and despicable. We’re not figments of male imagination.

katelamble What does legal recognition of their gender mean? Making it ‘legal’ to force people to participate in one’s self declared trans fantasy? Dear God,please send the asteroid ☄️

katelamble So they are just removing kids with gender dysphoria from medical waiting lists and not giving mental health care? What could possibly go wrong 😑

sarah_owl3 katelamble The Scottish government has completely lost its collective mables.

vrarda1 katelamble If straight males can self identify as women and not undergo any surgery or medical intervention... then straight males with penises will gain access to women's toilets, changing rooms and other safe spaces. Has this been thought through?

katelamble Yes, what does it mean for women? I know what it means, do you?

katelamble nothankyou

katelamble katelamble it should be public knowledge that when a male sex offender decides to change his name and 'gender' via GRC, about to be made super easy in Scotland, it will be a good way to avoid discovery should they want to work with children. SNP and Greens plough on regardless.

katelamble Was this on the SNPs election mandate? If it was then people got what they voted for. If it wasn’t then why are women & their husbands, boyfriends, uncles, sons & dads not on the streets in their hundreds of thousands sending a message to the SNP?

katelamble 'The Scottish Parliament's started the next stage of its plans to reform the process for' men to gain legal access to female spaces

katelamble This is part of what the BBC are hiding - men gloating about abusing women, stopping us speaking...

katelamble Care? Body mutilation.

katelamble Oh dear. Your reporters need to dig far deeper. History will not be kind.

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katelamble Care? Experimental drugs, wrong- sex hormones, double mastectomy of healthy breasts & castration? Call that 'care'?

katelamble Humans can't change sex Noone should be falsifying birth certificates, passports, driving licences, NHS records or DBS certificates This is about codifying sexist & homophobic beliefs + Removal of sex based safeguarding

katelamble Do you mean children? Under 18s? I trust that this piece is fully informed by Children Act Scots Gov reveals it's contempt for children's safeguarding responsibilities

katelamble It doesn’t effect just young people, it effects all women and girls. And sorry I for one don’t agree with self ID

katelamble Why have you not reported on the conflict of rights?

KirstyWark Please can BBCNews explain how this piece was unbiased balanced reporting ? Since when do journalists with no real lived experience in a topic get to be the people giving the country their opinion as fact ? Ofcom

KirstyWark The homeeducating community isn’t angry because they want to be left alone, they’re angry because they’re being vilified in one sided media & the government is using said media as their bias puppets to drive their one sided agenda! Telegraph bbceducation tes GuardianEdu

katelamble Falsifying ID documents with desired sex, rather than ACTUAL sex, can very obviously lead to loopholes that criminals can exploit.

KirstyWark Totally unbalanced and misrepresents the legislative reality. When children deregister from school they are ALREADY registered with the local authority. These kids aren't unknown, or hidden, and the SchoolsBill wouldn't help them in any way.

KirstyWark The head Ofstednews not being open & transparent when being interviewed on bbceducation - EVERY SINGLE CHILD WHO IS DEREGISTERED FROM A SCHOOL BY LAW IS ON A LOCAL AUTHORITY REGISTER AS THE SCHOOL HAS TO NOTIFY THEM & THEY HAVE TO STORE THE DATA SchoolsWeek GuardianEdu tes

KirstyWark ‘Germs’? We were talking about some kids and families who have no immunity to covid, for example kids with leukaemia. These families deserve a right to education. They’re not elective home Ed’s, they were pushed out during the pandemic. We need hybrid opts, hepa, and equality

NewVoic12641057 katelamble I just want to scream. How can they ignore the Cass review? How can they ignore the EHRC?

katelamble What was very striking was what you didn’t say. Imbalance by censorship.

katelamble If anyone flashes a penis in a woman's toilet they will get battered to a pulp by the Public.

KirstyWark KirstyWark why are you interviewing a school inspector who has absolutely nothing to do with home education and accepting her readily debunked statements so credulously? Schools are inspected because they are public bodies, accountable for spending public funds.

katelamble They didn't even make an amendment to curtail convicted sexual predators. Green lights all the way. It's chilling.

KirstyWark These academics and organisations are supporters of the No to the Schools Bill campaign. The Schools Bill poses a grave threat, particularly to those most marginalised and vulnerable in society.

KirstyWark Safeguarding and child protection experts and human rights organisations have deep concerns about the registers proposed under the Schools Bill. The extensive data collection and sharing is a threat to children's wellbeing and safety, and not only those who are home educated.

sarah_owl3 katelamble Why did you not address the constitutional issues of different criteria for gender recognition in Scotland & England?

KirstyWark There needs to be a discussion about this based on accurate facts. Children failed by schools are not missing. Schools are under a legal obligation to inform the council of every child deregistered at a non standard transition point.

katelamble Around 30 seconds into this broadcast someone in the studio starts slamming doors or making enough background noise to be audible - this demonstrates how little BBC want this reported on and the contempt they have for women's sex based rights.

katelamble People suffering from gender dysphoria need therapy and compassion, not affirmation. Should we allow people suffering from multiple personality disorder to get multiple birth certificates?

katelamble It means a quicker route to sterilisation and the fact sex offenders can hide behind gender nonsense.

katelamble “For trans people to gain legal recognition”. The correct wording is ‘for anyone to claim to be legally called trans’. They also voted to permit sexual predators to claim this. This means any child molester/rapist can enter Female spaces & can’t be excluded. Perverts pass.

katelamble No one is born in the wrong body, real progress is working towards a society of people more tolerant of gender nonconformity There are butch women, there are feminine men, this is diversity - claiming a man is a woman if he feels feminine is regressive nonsense

katelamble Time the licence fee was cancelled. You are biased beyond all purpose. Pretending men can be women makes all single sex spaces mixed sex. Hence how a male paedophile stayed in a Leeds refuge for women and children for 4 months unchecked. Women pay the price for your lies.

katelamble This is a misleading article. Sandyford clinic is going to go the way of the Tavistock. corrupt damaging

katelamble You missed the most important part. How will this affect women and girls?

katelamble The Scottish Government was in court last week arguing that in the EqA ‘female sex’ = (biological females +males with a GRC). Together with self id this wipes away ALL reserved spaces/facilities/sports for biological women. They are open to ANY male self identifying as a female

katelamble Erm…

katelamble A birth certificate records facts about your birth including your biological sex which cannot be changed. If you can choose the sex on your birth certificate then why not your date of birth? The government should not knowingly be handing g out false documentation

hannahsbee katelamble No mention of the conflict with women and girls rights nobody should be allowed to change their birth certificate madness NoToSelfID 🤡

katelamble Where is your reporting of the amendment that would make it slightly less easy for convicted sex offenders to get a new identity on their say-so? And did you mention the committee member who claimed child safeguarding is “middle class”?

katelamble So basically a 16 year old boy can decided he is a girl and get documents to 'prove' it without doing anything at all. Then he can use facilities for girls and women and it's legal ? This is farcical.

katelamble Humans can’t change sex. What’s your view on how kids will feel when they realise adults have lied to them? How do you feel girls will feel when they are forced to change in front of boys because the boys want to be included with girls? Who cares about girls dignity & safety?

katelamble No mention of the risk to girls & women & the complete lack of safeguarding? Or that sex offenders would be able to legally hide their criminal history? We do not live in a Utopian society, predators exist & we know that they take advantage of any loophole

katelamble Are genders defined or simply mapped to the sexes, removing the fact of sex in law?

katelamble It trashes on women and girls, whose rights are also human rights.

katelamble What does it mean for women Kate? I didn’t catch that part of your report.

katelamble What about the obvious conflict with women’s existing sex based rights? Clear summary of concerns in the EHRC’s letter here:

katelamble Where is the reporting of the conflict on women's rights?

KirstyWark 'we need a way of joining up the pieces' -- absolutely - but no register is going to help you there, Child-centred systems change is not created with a register...

hannahsbee katelamble The rights to safety, privacy and dignity of women? Did that feature ? If not, a useless, poor report not worth airing or watching.

katelamble This bill will be the end of the theSNP As a Scottish voter, I can tell you, I will never vote for a party who do not respect womens (Adult human females) rights. Any party who can show they will protect my SEX based rights and the rights of our children will get my vote.

KirstyWark Surely this was not an attack on home educators but about the fact that there are many children at risk because nobody knows where they are or if they’re receiving any education? How is keeping a register an attack on home education?

MarkUrban01 KirstyWark “Experts” 🖕🏻🤡

MarkUrban01 KirstyWark Wise words from Mark tonight. Lets investigate and determine first whether this was a deliberate Russian act, an accident, or a Ukrainian accident in trying to defend themselves against Russian ordnance. Either way, significant. NATO needs to act.

katelamble Around 18% or fewer of trans adults have kids. That number is lower for trans women (ie born male). This compares to around 60% of other adults and 80% of women who are mothers. Which group is least qualified to protect children?

MarkUrban01 KirstyWark Could feasibly be a US red flag 'event'. They have benefitted, timely, from Nord2 destruction. A leading US general said last week that 'Ukraine is just the warm-up'. Chilling.

KyleWOrton MarkUrban01 KirstyWark

KirstyWark Appalling derogatory language. We home-ed parents, of which there is a notable lack in this piece, know where our children are, what they're doing, who with, and how they *feel*, far more than children in school. We're the ones who need to know where our children are.

nicholaswatt KirstyWark Why the promo pictures?

KirstyWark What on earth is happening at Newsnight that you think this kind of coverage is acceptable? We should never know the opinion of the presenter or the show. Where was the questioning of the basis of this proposal? How were so many inaccuracies presented as fact?

katelamble No mention of women...🤬

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MarkUrban01 KirstyWark Did you established who did NordStream2? It's been a while now.

katelamble For those wishing to watch a recording of today's debate, it can be found here. For such a significant piece of legislation, the first stage 2 debate was found wanting. NoToSelfID

KirstyWark You are both absolutely disgusting in spreading this rhetoric. You should both be very ashamed that you can't understand your own systems and your own issues. EVERY child you spoke of IS already registered with your LA! Stop wasting taxpayers money on this!

nicholaswatt KirstyWark N silver bullet? They’re not bloody werewolves ffs

katelamble I don’t think I heard the word woman in that report once and considering the significant opposition on serious safety grounds to this legislation by woman’s rights groups it felt notable by its absence

KirstyWark Extremely disappointed with this narrative. Home Educators in the UK are known to the Local Authority [LA] Home educators must produce reports to LA. If education is insufficient LA can issue a school attendance order [SAO]. Be factual and not mislead the public!

KirstyWark I guess Newsnight invited someone who could speak for the 'resistance' mentioned, and explain it? Like a parent, perhaps, who home educates their kids? Because that would surely be a perspective that could shed light, no? Otherwise, that would surely be *terrible* journalism.

katelamble Waste of parliamentary time

katelamble If I am hiring a childcarer in this day and age, I will request medical confirmation of their gender at birth.

katelamble So you'll be able to change your gender before you're allowed to buy a drink.....

katelamble Why wasn't it also mentioned that the GRA also demands 'The need to sign a statutory declaration, saying that you identify and are living as a man/woman and intend to do so until death'? What 16-year-old could possibly guarantee that? Will detransitioners be punished?

MarkUrban01 KirstyWark WW3 is coming.

katelamble Yeah. Instead of tackling real issues they choose to ignore them over gender that is already recognised and certified at birth.

faisalislam MarkUrban01 KirstyWark CalibreObscura 👆👍

KirstyWark More research is needed to justify the claim the pandemic has caused the rise in home education. Some parents may be fearful of teachers aiding social transitioning behind parents' backs - which is happening in schools - and some parents advocate for free speech in education.

faisalislam MarkUrban01 KirstyWark Ukrainian missile

faisalislam MarkUrban01 KirstyWark As someone pointed out not all S-300 in the theatre are being used in their intended roles. Russia has been using them as Ground to Ground weapons.

KirstyWark I remember seeing a report years back about some of those she mentions who ‘really resist’ any sort of registration. What about the child benefit lists matched against school registrations? Or would those parents then not claim CB to avoid that solution?

MarkUrban01 KirstyWark Bob Seely. Global conflicts start because of Rivalries, Random Events or Misjudgements. Would the Misjudgements part apply to Tory’s being in the pockets of Vlad & his Oligarchs, Before, During & After the Annexing of Crimea🤭😷

KirstyWark I remember NATO swinging into action when Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands.

nicholaswatt KirstyWark Surely advice is just that. You cannot order a govt to put people in hotels. The French let people there illegally make tent cities for years same in Greece. Yet the U.K. somehow face compensation claims. We are a joke.

KirstyWark In short, calm down

KirstyWark I am not sure what’s worse, the prospect of WW3 or this woman’s voice.

KirstyWark A Warmonger Newsnight

MarkUrban01 KirstyWark Hopefully this isn't something that is going to be swept under the rug and forgotten about... much like the bullshit we see these days...

MarkUrban01 KirstyWark An anti Ukrainian air craft missile and we have the Ukrainian president goading the West into action

MarkUrban01 KirstyWark Kirsty Wark should Nato introduce a 'No fly zone'when the missile has not even been confirmed it came from Russia Newsnight

MarkUrban01 KirstyWark Not going to war for Poland again after what happened last time.

MarkUrban01 KirstyWark Strange that the West, pentagon etc don't seem to have put as much effort into investigating who destroyed the gas line

MarkUrban01 KirstyWark Attempt to drag NATO to war

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt KirstyWark Oh please 🤦

nicholaswatt KirstyWark It's a struggle to pay me mortgage at the minute who do I need 2 see 4 compensation

nicholaswatt KirstyWark This country makes me sick it really fucking does

nicholaswatt KirstyWark People living rough in woods in Calais arriving here illegally want to sue the UK goverment for not putting them in a four star hotel

nicholaswatt KirstyWark How many ppl have actually been paid by Windrush compensation

nicholaswatt KirstyWark Waiting for the compensation for the vaccine damage / deaths they caused.

nicholaswatt KirstyWark Disgusting. They shouldn't even be here. What about UK homeless people sueing the UK Govt instead? Never happen as they care nothing about the people here.

BBCPolitics KirstyWark Oh thise horrible lawyers DOING THEIR JOB Lets attack them as ‘lefties’ rather than lawyers upholding the rule of law Pathetic rotten Govt

BBCPolitics KirstyWark More middle class socialism from BBC so desperate to support Labour

KirstyWark Hotel rooms hmm while our veterans and others sleep on the streets , we are stoking up a crisis every minute of the day ! For sure , one that could be nasty now and in the future 🤔

KirstyWark The fire bomb was not at Manston, it was in Dover Port. Facts!

smallypaula KirstyWark My MP unfortunately - party line every time

KirstyWark This country is unbelievable We’ve got our own people saying they can’t afford things and there’s a possibility us the tax payer going to compensate illegal migrants that supposedly fled war torn countries because we didn’t care for them well enough…madness

KirstyWark actions appear to show Braverman wants the migration headlines but takes very little care for people. Britain is very much better than this sorry, wretched government. 10DowningStreet ukhomeoffice

KirstyWark Thanks for covering our legal challenge against the Home Secretary over her mistreatment of adults and children at Manston. You can donate to our legal challenge here. (Thanks also to zedhas3 / JCWI_UK for such a compelling interview).

KirstyWark Taiwan is ant size compared to your country why don’t you leave them alone greedy bullies

KirstyWark She hotels are expensive although she doesn’t have a solution just a whinge and a nod to the profiteers form the hotel scam

KirstyWark newshite is utter left wing garbage and everyone knows it

KirstyWark The UK must withdraw as signatory to the 1951 Refugee Convention as well as leaving the EHRC which will enable us to establish our own Bill of Rights.

KirstyWark Waffling

KirstyWark I’m hearing “she ignored the advice, got caught out and reluctantly complied despite her objections to law and order”

RejoinersRus BenChu_ Couple of things: 1. Windfall tax on energy corporations. EU has gone down this route, instead the Tories gave billions £s of taxpayers money as a subsidy. This was madness considering they could have used same money to nationalise energy like France and Germany.

BenChu_ Why aren’t you even talking about the £1 trillion that was printed and given to the rich? Sunak squandered £500 billion. It was this that ushered in hyperinflation and is the reason why the markets are downgrading the UK. Truss and Kwarteng were simply a catalyst. We’re broke!

BenChu_ Kirsty Walk ……. 🙈

KirstyWark Another dictator who doesn't believe in self-determination. Another Putin.

BenChu_ No mention of Brexit again?

KirstyWark Bring back maitlis !

KirstyWark He of the private jet.

BenChu_ ⚜️ Do we need government?

BenChu_ Put this in your fiscal hole, Hunt. 👊

BenChu_ UK government's Office of Budget Responsibility calculated that Brexit is costing 4% of GDP a year, which is £40 billion a year. £40 billion a year Brexit Tax

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BenChu_ Please caption videos before posting.

BenChu_ We want a GeneralElection2022

BenChu_ He can call it what he likes but our Chancellor cannot deny the evil of this wealthy country's astonishing gap between rich and poor working incomes. Obscene wealth and obscene poverty side by side. Unaddressed. GE please.

Sunak’s policies are going to kill stone dead any possibility of investment and growth. He is making things far, far worse.

BenChu_ We’re enslaved to our own debt by proxy, it’s a nonsense. The markets just happen to be the people who manage our pension & insurance funds. Money we all set aside for something that might never happen. If we can fall for Capitalism, we can fall for anything. Newsnight

SalfordMH Austerity lessons between 2012 and 2019 The Glasgow Centre for Population Health (GCPH)

BenChu_ An explanation of the Tory created myth of a 'black hole in the economy' to cut back, yet again, on central government funding for vital public services. Now BBC , listen to your own Economics Editor, Ben Chu, when reporting on the economy.

SovereignWill BenChu_ Careful BenChu_ People who point out that the Tory Emperor has no clothes on tend to dissappear from Newsnight. And remember not to mention the B word.

See also continuing Covid denial, cost of living crisis and other social murder policies.

BenChu_ No but awful journalists keep perpetuating the nonsense. Not watching or reading anything you do. A disgrace. A proud institution prostituted. FRO.

Why invest in productivity with an unlimited supply of very cheap labour? Hand car washes are currently putting automatic car washes out of business. I thought machines were supposed to take our jobs?

BenChu_ Ignorance of state finances clues: 1. References to “Financial Black Hole” (we have had national debt for some form of other for at least 300 years) 2. “National Credit card” reference You can discount anything with either of these misinformed references.

All the plonkers in charge are only interested in net 0. Double plonkers the lot of 'em!!🧐🤓

This wouldn't be a problem if we aligned closer 2 the EU easing inflationary labour shortages & trade frictions & spent on funding Councils & Services 2action growth n'wide from the ground up that would additionally begin 2address inequality poverty & the need 4 green initiatives

BenChu_ At last. BBC and Framing in the same post. Misses point that BBC churns out perpetual propaganda frames. Irony.

This is blindingly obvious to everyone except Conservatives, who we all need to understand do not have the best interests of the country at heart. They are in power to asset strip everything that is left, bleed us all dry, then take the profit offshore.

Austerity didnt work 2010-20. The national debt grew. Is that all they've got?

Exactly right. Flipping from insane tax cuts to equally insane austerity makes no sense.

It's the same as stopping advertising for a business. It's an absolute no-brainer that you will see returns die out. Who in their right mind would do such a thing except an entitled elite accustomed to receiveing money for nothing?

mattprescott In particular, we are squandering the 'productive capabilities' of our Arts - theatre, opera, pop/rock, classical. We were World leaders, which was a big earner & great for people. Now arts disappearing in schools & cities. ToryChaos

It seems to me that it is like having an old inefficient gas boiler in your house, single glassing and no insulation, trying not to use the heating as it costs a fortune to use. But what we should do is invest in a new boiler and insulation so you can afford to heat the house.

Grande Subsecretario

So you just know the tories will do just that!!

She's absolutely right. Now is not the time to waiver. Putin must be put back in his box at a bare minimum. Ideally overthrown by reasonable Russians. None of this is in anyone's best interest to continue.

Guy_Stallard I'm not going crazy here am I? I'm not an economist but right from 2010 my instinct was that austerity was ideological rather than evidence based. As I recall when the cost of borrowing was at an all-time low, seems like the ideal time to invest in the roots?

Do we REALLY have to learn this lesson yet again? Same ideology Hunt followed, allowing NHS PPE stockpiles to expire, despite Cygnus (2016,) predicting slaughter, when (not if,) a SARS pandemic to hit UK. The same that saw UK slowest recovery from 2008. This is ridiculous.

BenChu_ Great explanation thank you

Divinadecampo BenChu_ Black hole, eye watering? We still talking about politics right?

BenChu_ A very helpful explanation.

I'm surprised they didn't do the classic insecure white Brit thing and talk all over him...

BenChu_ A perfect analysis that shows the government's driving force is their own idealogical one. To cut the state to the minimum & for private enterprise to provide all services hitherto provided by the state. Regardless of the misery this policy will cause millions of its own citizens

Is that not the plan 🤔

The UK has failed to invest in productive capabilities since 1946.

We’ve had enough of experts. Especially when they are proved right

BenChu_ So it’s just a political choice?

BenChu_ SaveToNotion tweet watchlater

Thatcher wrecked British industry, which outsourced its manufacturing to China. Millions of skilled quality jobs exported there & we hardly make anything now. Carbon footprint worse as China uses coal still, & long journey for manufactures back. Loss of jobs fuelled Brexit too.

Utterly true. What business ever succeeds by not spending any money?

We’ve seen constant cuts over the last 12 years, it hasn’t worked & will continue to fail a nation.

Austerity simply doesn’t work and we’re currently seeing this. There is no magic answer to decades of under-investment and neglect on key public services. Austerity won’t make it better but will make things worse.

Someone talking sense at last!

BenChu_ No mention of the current account deficit

Don't worry, Jeremy Hunt is at the helm – what could possibly go wrong?

BenChu_ if your eyes regularly water when making difficult decisions then please seek immediate medical attention

drphilhammond BenChu_

Britain is being sold to the highest bidder, investment for the good of the populace comes a poor second to vested interest

BenChu_ Rather than playing passive spectator saying “isn’t it funny how we frame this?”, why not just change how you frame it

BenChu_ If we stop seeing migrants and people claiming asylum as a problem and allow them to become productive members of the Uk their taxes and spending will help.

An economy can't cut its expenditure without cutting its income.

BenChu_ There didn't need to be a black hole it is the Torys choice

Absolutely! Our mobile phone network is a disgrace. In the busiest part of the South of England, signals are often intermittent to non-existent, Investment in a true national network would make sense on so many levels. Emergency sevices are dying as they stand.

BenChu_ For a government with NoMandate to be threatening severe measures to fill this fiscal hole is fundamentally undemocratic. We need a GeneralElectionNOW!

BenChu_ Maybe the BBC could take the next logical step and mention that the only reason the Tories pretend to believe this stuff is because it financially benefits their wealthy donors.

BenChu_ Finally!

BenChu_ So it seems that the 'markets' are running the country. Holding it to ransom. Demanding deeper and deeper austerity.

UK has faced decades of chronic underinvestment. Less bad during Labour but still not enough. It has been getting dramatically worse ever since the Conservatives took control. Unfortunately it doesn't seem either party understands this.

BenChu_ 'Fiscal hole' is just Osborne's 'deficit deniers' trope by another name. It's just a bogey man invented by the Tories to justify austerity. Believing such nonsense had disastrous effects in 2010 and it will now.

Osbourne killed off the green shoots of growth by battoning down the hatches, we have never recovered. The Conservatives only know one way to run the economy, they lack the talent and imagination required, because all economic decisions are based on personal wealth.

Great, that's the balance taken care of. Now auntie beeb can resume normal service of back to back platforming of psycho lizards from US billionaire funded thinktanks telling us that austerity and NHS privatisation is necessary and good, actually.

He’s picked an at arbitrary number of years there what he means is the Conservatives have failed to invest. Period.

BenChu_ Stop calling them rules, they aren't rules, they're targets. Much better to understand them in these terms.

BenChu_ So here is why markets got spoked about UK fiscal deficits getting larger: 1) the pound is not reserve currency of world so no US excuse. 2) Britain is not in largest free market on planet, so there goes France and Italy. 3) Japan has been running insane fiscal policies for 20yrs

BenChu_ Just to recap, the tories created the hole, created the rules that required a ‘hole’, then messed up the budget that created the market turmoil that made the hole a thing to worry about? So now we get austerity AGAIN! Tories are a danger to this country! ToriesUnfitToGovern

PaulJeffrey09 BenChu_

BenChu_ When is Ben Chu going to appear on BBCNews and all prime time current affairs and magazine format programmes, BBCMorningLive BBCWomansHour bbcquestiontime BBCTheOneShow to disabuse your other journalists & your presenters of the nonsense that is the so-called fiscal hole?

BenChu_ Good piece. We’ve always been able to afford almost anything we decide are our priorities. Crumbling social goods are what the electorate chose in 2019

BenChu_ So it’s ideology driven rather than actual need? At least we know what we’re up against.

BenChu_ I never understand why the Tory government insist high taxes restrict growth on basis that a knock on lack of investment cripples it and yet, still think it makes sense to restrict UK investment which we know can in itself*ONLY* restrict growth? As an argument, it’s illogical .

BenChu_ Why does he sound like a Blue Peter presenter?

Two_Penneth BenChu_ austerity 1 and austerity 2 = POLITICAL CHOICE by ToriesDestroyingOurCountry in order to privatise all public services ToriesOut128

BenChu_ Bbc hysteria was one of the reasons we replaced our pm who was proposing growth policies. The BBC are therefore partly responsible for what happens next.

1979 …..who profited after neo - liberalism took over the Tory party ? Where did the ideology originate ? Who has gained from UK being under RW control ?

Brighton66 But how will Tory donors get richer, if us peasents aren't paying for it?

You mean productive capabilities into his bank account?

Saffiya_Khan1 BenChu_ Recommend reading this book by anatosaurus before you start thinking about what the messages we are hearing really mean.

sallydipple BenChu_ Matter is sacked into a black hole. 8s Hunt in danger?

KernowQ That’s because CEO’s just want their profit margins to look good in order to boost their pay and bonuses. As with everything in the U.K. short term greed.

He’s bang-on; pity our government don’t get it 🙄

BenChu_ BBC Gobbledegook 🙄 'Look at France' 'Look at Italy' 'My God,look at Japan' 🙄 Yes,look at others suffering in a 'global crisis'🙄 but,don't scrutinise Mafia HQ(WM) don't blame Brexit which the BBC had a large part in(Farage,never off question time). We will pay for their crimes.

BenChu_ For once, a decent bit of economic journalism from the BBCNews

BenChu_ windfalltax

BenChu_ GetVideoBot please

Government investment (in education, training, full expensing capital allowances, infrastructure …) can make competition easier, undermining corporations’ excess pricing power which is the core reason for them finding it more rewarding to raise prices than to make investments.

We have rested on our laurels since the days of the empire and those that should and could of invested have sat on their country pile, sold assets, and watched their savings dwindle!?

davie5456 Austerity destroys basic demand making it worse. That this needs to be explained. It is the way it works. Nationalise the banks they over pay themselves and cause inflation. Nationalise power,rail,water,etc. Private non-doms its tax. NHS, Care, Esssential 25%. Stimulus.

CllrJonSHarvey BenChu_ “Why the scramble?” No, it does not come back to that market panic. It comes back to their ideology - and while the bbc refuses to acknowledge the alignment of the Tories ideology and there proposed cuts they misinform the public

BenChu_ We need to tax the rich properly, it's utterly immoral to keep squeezing the poor while rich people lock in advantages for themselves

CllrJonSHarvey BenChu_ Did the chancellor “warn” there was a fiscal hole? I think a better framing in the media would be that the chancellor “claimed” such a thing exists

BenChu_

BenChu_ Brilliant analysis.

BenChu_ The tories have got away with a decade of cuts (falsely blamed Labour), signed an economically disastrous brexit deal, elected Truss who gave us the mini budget & now they're telling us we have to suffer more cuts to pay for it to meet their fiscal rules. Election please.

BenChu_ Nice to see some accessible analysis of the that doesn't just repeat the lie that the country's economy is like a household's.

grahambsi ..just thanks Thatcher her philosophy of destruction continued !

Spot on. Austerity is only a quick-fix, short-term solution that will only result in deeper and more fundamental problems over time. We need to take the long-view and use the more systemic view of investing in production capabilities

Sadly it is more than 25 years of underinvestment, it goes back decades. An abject failure to invest in infrastructure, skills, technology, R&D and manufacturing relative to other countries. For years it’s been short termism, selling off assets and disguising poor performance.

ProfSteveKeen Spot on. Such a rarity to hear common sense economics like this.

We are no longer a productive country..Maggie sold off all of our productivity Blair didn't rectify it and since then the Tories have topped up off shore bank accounts

Far too busy feeding greedy shareholders TimeForChange EnoughIsEnough

EvelynNFarkas What should Ukraine negotiate? If China invaded our west coast, would we negotiate over California? If Canada invaded, would we offer them Montana? Mexico has historical claims to Texas. If they tried to take it back, would we accept that? And Putin won't negotiate in good faith.

BenChu_ Or we could decide that the IFS is just one private forecast and that some other forecast is more likely to be accurate. These are only models, and IFS has a leftish bias

The economy still hasn`t recovered from the banking crisis in 2008. The banks should be paying for the Austerity measures put on our services and society. Corperate shareholders priority over society is the name of the game. It never trickles down.

Our model is invest in nothing OUTSOURCE everything By giving the companies an easy ride, the regulator has ensured that customers’ bills have risen more than they should. In the case of water, they have gone up by about 40 per cent above the rate of inflation since 1989

BenChu_ Fiscal rules are nothing more than a false barrier to Government Spending . Ideological meaningless tripe that damages lives.

May I suggest too much reliance on the financial sector & now instead of investing 9% of public sectors £3.6tn to build 3.2m council homes to eradicate our housing problem & pay interest into pen/fund & fund LA's through rent & council tax' creating 100k jobsx12yrs = no recession

Austerity is the macroeconomics of the Stone Age

This economic fact would seem to be news only to BBC political journalists and the Conservatives

This guy really knows his onions, the government should listen to him

mattprescott I hope the Chancellor is listening to this Professor.

mattprescott He's absolutely right.

Yes he said if you cut it to much but that means we can still cut it. Great to hear

harryfear BenChu_

harryfear BenChu_

The interviewer is still trying to argue the toss....

Ha who

CorbynWasRight Austerity doesn’t work!!

He’s spot on 👍🏻

He’s right.

BenChu_ Yes but most of our European neighbours don't have our investment problems.

tommousk His books on ecomomics are great. Straightforward to read and very informative.

Osborne started the ruination of this country with Austerity. Workers are low paid and have little motivation, no wonder we have lower productivity, we should've invested more to help the workforce. That would've stimulated growth a lot more than with trickle down economics.

AndrewParkerUK All I heard was dah dah dah. sorry

Any analysis or in depth reporting on the radicalised extremist and white terrorist who was the suicide bomber in Dover ? ToryScum RacistScum Here’s a start. You’re welcome.

Danny Blanchflower said exactly the same thing !

JediDuke1 Wow, thanks. If BBCNews hadn't been amplifying far right think tanks and media for 25 years we wouldn't be in this situation.

Thanks for the refreshing change featuring someone who knows what they are talking about and speaks facts 👍

Bang on, no investment in manufacturing

mattprescott They keep getting told exactly that time and time again. They don’t listen.

The tories don't care. They get their cut from money laundering through the city. Who needs infrastructure or new industry?

AHH dear old BBC that I'm forced to pay for on threat of prison if I want to watch TV in the uk. All summer you had economist after economist telling us we couldn't borrow. Suddenly now all your expert guests are telling us actually there's no black hole and we must spend more!

Tory policy for 12 years. No wonder we have a mess

Because of short term party politics

BenChu_ Well done for putting this out there thank you.

Yep. And they’re proposing more of the same to “solve” it this time. They have utterly destroyed this country. And yet you still see it on here. 5 mins and you’ll come across “we can’t afford it, we have to pay the bills, no magic money tree.” Absolute unadulterated bullshit.

MimiJ9 Sane intelligent people: Don't do that it'll make things 💩 er Tories: We're going to do that every day for as long as we're in power, and smirk while we do it

The British economy is suffering because we don't produce anything. No production, no manufacturing, no farming, no agriculture, no infrastructure, no exporting, only a giant and useless public sector and consumer spending services created by the Keynesians built on credit debt.

McleanScottt

Another 'economist' spreading economic disinformation, Osbourne never introduced austerity. This is a Marxist lie. Government spending and Government debt increased every year under Osbourne. There was no austerity. Governments are utterly useless at EVERYTHING.

MimiJ9 Well am pleased youposted this because he’s bang on.

The case for cuts was a lie. Why does Britain still believe it? The austerity delusion Paul Krugman

mattprescott

mattprescott He’s right - we don’t make anything - we just consume.

BenChu_ Maybe better to balance the ‘carbon black hole’. The consequences of not addressing this are far more significant. EcologicalEconomics.

Absolutely, we should be investigating in technology, education and skills, infrastructure, that’s how you achieve sustainable growth.

See even jackie chan knows it

PauljePaul The City of London flourished whilst manufacturing was handed to the EU. We weren’t allowed to be a balanced economy because we had the City. That’s all the EU were interested in and why leaving was such a shock for them and those working in the City. To hell with the rest of us.

Truss was right.

BenChu_ Only with Tory MPs & non doms.

BenChu_ This: and (because 'austerity' is an alternative to war, makes useless government seem 'valuable'):

earthygirl011 Perhaps that China's fault. Or Russias. Or even North Koreas.

Imagine what tax cuts for business would have done. You would be absolute incompetents - if it wasn't delibrate.

BenChu_ It's what you wanted. faisalislam lefties and remoaners hated low tax and high growth. Enjoy the austerity.

BenChu_ Im actually surprised and impressed that BBC have given some serious economic analysis rather than uncritical and reductive soundbites.

BenChu_ 'Gain the confidence of the GlobalFinancialNetworks ' Which ones? It is important to explain current network rivalries. There is a lot to say that often isn't.

CordeliaAppleb1 🧐

That is true, but it's not the government that should invest. Now is a time for tax cuts, but not Truss-style: the government should cut spending aggressively to create a low tax, high growth economy. They will, of course, not do that, so we're doomed.

HoopoeMohican The Tories are especially crap at running an economy, however we now have to turn to Degrowth Ecosocialism, building things to last much longer and only making things that are worth making, reducing wasteful sectors, sharing work out on a well paid 3 day week and rewilding

BenChu_ an ideological choice only

Yes most people can actually see that, it’s only Tories that seem incapable of seeing it

BenChu_ DefundTheBBC

It's always been a Tory policy,keep shareholders happy and screw the rest

BenChu_ Austerity is still a choice.

What a refreshing change for you to feature an economist that actually knows what they're talking about.

BenChu_ you can't fill a black hole. Anything you throw into a black hole just makes it bigger.

Gloriafr Its all short-termism here!

BenChu_ Very clear explanation. We've a Tory government of thieves, brutal thieves, where the terrorism against the lower orders doesn't impinge on anything whilst the frenzy of strip the UK for the wealth masters is at the forefront

He supports Kwasi in other words…

What he is saying is -We need to stop spending public money on black holes with zero return - the NHS and state pensions, and actually start investing that money in the future of the country.

Over the last 43 years there is not one aspect of UK life that has not been degraded or destroyed by the reckless, incompetent & corrupt Tory governments. They are the real enemies of the people, the traitors of the Nation. Tory failure! EnoughlsEnough GeneralElection

UK has at least 3 trillion of debt, they already tax us into oblivion and you lot want more of it

J_Scott_95 Yes never cut spending Always only increase Can't go wrong ever

BenChu_ Very good. Just like to add that the govs reasoning, as discussed in the very end, is complete bs

I 100% agree, this governments economic policy is seriously damaging.

The Conservatives party of which i am a member needs a dose of Keynesianism. Ha Joon Chang is right. To get back to growth we need investment. Lets start with Rolls Royce SMRs

Your Economics feature last night was very good Thx to all & Ben for the charts so much opportunity & potential lost these past 12 years & now unless we align closer to ease labour shortages, we risk inflation as perceived by the Markets when we do borrow for ground up growth

FlipChartRick BenChu_ A good first step would be for all BBC presenters to watch this and reflect this understanding in their interviews with politicians. At the moment they're guilty of encouraging hysteria and panic by insisting it's a 'black hole' that has to be filled at all costs

Well wadayaknow? If i didn't know better I'd question if it was all a dastardly ploy to get rishi in number 10 & the media facilitated it

johnandi they want austerity so that the ground will be clear for the investment zones, they want to break things as far as they can. IZs have been selves apparently. Don’t you believe it.

lwhemmings How about just slashing energy bills for industry? If the Conservatives really cared about growth they do that.

BenChu_ All the BBC analyses are extremely basic and steer clear of Brexit or increased tax on the rich. I wonder why . . . .

BenChu_ If it chops public spending, the markets will spot the acceleration in recession and react. Only higher taxes on the rich can possibly work.

BenChu_ Brilliant analysis, Ben Chu

BBC Newsnight is really on a roll, Mark Urban and Team: really good, informative edition on Friday Night - with Martin Sorrell + Ha-Choon!

BenChu_ Finally BBC actually looking at the governments back hole and realising its self declared, like when rich people claim bankruptcy but still have a 12 bed mansion and drive a Lmabo. Only took you three weeks....

It world so well in 2010, why can't the Conservatives just stand by their 'Always Austerity' position. It's like they know it won't work, it punishes the poorest but they need an excuse to do it otherwise they just seem a bit shit at the sums.

that IS the english disease. Engineers want this and that, Managers say no (they get bonuses for saving money).

EvelynNFarkas is 100% correct.

Farkas comes from a group that has started every major war in the last century.

I can't think when I last saw a BBC News person wearing a Regimental or Service Tie. It might even have been the late Richard Baker. Good for you MarkUrban01 . LestWeForget

Tories and their like should be exported and banned from UK! Every time they’re in power it’s a trainwreck!

So globalisation and free Markets don't work in the interests of Nations and the millions of people except sometimes but that's just incidental. However the globalists and free marketeers get super rich out of our losses. Energy markets would be a good example of a bad system...

She's talking out of her arse.

Make corporations pay their fucking tax. Might that work? If they threaten to fuck off, let them. Others will fill the gap.

Why would I want to listen to a Cambridge economics professor, when I can take advice from some random Tory bozo on Twitter.

No good options huh. How about we tax the super wealthy and spend it on improved education/welfare/manufacturing. The markets will like that as well everyone else!

A good solution is taking back millions of £££ that went to the very rich the last 5 years, we tax 1% from their assets and wealth. There is no other money without breaking the middle of Britain that buys stuff. Tax the rich you f**king Tory scumbags.

Is Mr Sorrell seriously suggesting that the events of the last week or so were part of a “plan”?

Hey BBC, why the hate for elonmusk? I see how you are trying to demonise him. Don’t like competition hey? As Sir Martin Sorrel said ‘don’t bet against him’. martinsorrell

RishiSunak Jeremy_Hunt Pls listen to Economist Chang & reflect on Singapore’s prosperity. Build infrastructure & increase government spending to pull out of austerity!

BenChu_ It’s a myth. A choice. We know what the tories will choose, until just before an election.

I fail to see how austerity will fix this.

if only you explained what causes this the markets themselves

BenChu_ But not a whisper of Brexit. elephantintheroom. uk needs to start talking about BrexitRenegotiation.

Exactly, R&D is being utterly stifled and Engineering isn’t given adequate recognition compared to other countries 😞

BenChu_ What you do in your own bedroom is your own business.

BenChu_ BBC News - Economists question 'black hole' in UK finances

adamlivingst0n3 StuartDenman Thing is, it’s him that doesn’t work.

It's a 'crisis' that the government created themselves. It has no real interest in resolving it either, in fact it suits them just fine for the 'crisis' to carry on.

Multiple home owner benefitting from a housing shortage? Also a policy maker? Huge conflict of interest.

This is appalling.

Back log! Dose this bloke ever watch the news1,000’s a day are illegal coming in How can any government deal with that amount Stop the lefty money grabbing Lawyers from stop them being deported They & the French are trying to undermine our country

Not going to lie I balled my eyes out watching this. Into my arms is such a hauntingly beautiful song it gets me every time.

JustSendThemHome

thelucyjohnston Two experiments in last two years - lockdowns and MRNA jabs - and we have highest cancer diagnoses on record. Where is the investigation?

Kirsty gets all the best 'arts' interviews, have to watch the extended interview soon.

‘Lord, I believe. Help thou my unbelief.’

Is this perhaps a disguised form of culling by the 12 years in power Conservative government?

Less of this clown and more Nick Cave please

She has several homes dotted around the north of Wales though!

Yes we would. British people living on the streets because of the housing shortage, don’t see the msm or charities concerned about that . We have young not able to rent or get on the property ladder . Thousands of illegals coming here and everything is free

The Home Office has essentially stopped processing asylum claims. The number of applications hasn't changed in the past 10 years. This is a manufactured crisis.

She also said Tories had a solution- Rwanda !!!!!!!

Newsnight

Very true, it's all those second home owners subletting on AirBnb who aren't helping with this housing crisis Newsnight

As usual, blaming others (lefty lawyers, Labour) despite having been in power for 12 years.

Yet Conservative MPs don't allow planning permission reform.

Isn’t it about time Newsnight had a dark money lobbyist on to tell us how shit our NHS is? It’s been a while…

MarkUrban01 😂😂🤣😂

faisalislam You must all be feeling incredibly proud! ❤️🇺🇦 It certainly feels like a seminal moment … 🇺🇦✊🏻👏🏻🇺🇦

Russia probably is envisaging the line of the Dnipro river to Dnipro as part of a future permanent border dividing the Donbas from Ukraine.

Nurses could have an inflation-beating increase for a miniscule fraction of the money that the tories have wasted & stolen over the last 7 years... nhsstrike Newsnight TorySewageParty

A trap is being set. Beware.

faisalislam Beware

faisalislam They can’t just blame him. The Republican party as a bloc have sold their souls in pursuit of power. Until they disown The Big Lie they are fundamentally treasonous, anti-democratic and displaying clear emergent fascism. 'Reflection' won’t cut it.

faisalislam Nurses balloting for strike action shows that whatever your politics the foundation of our NHS is in crisis If ever there was a signal to the people of Britain that there has to be a step change in how we look at our public services it is this 12 years of Tory govt brought this

faisalislam Why would anyone in their right mind criticise nurses for this when for so many weeks we haven't seen Johnson, Truss, Kwarteng, Hancock and so many others doing the jobs we pay them for. Or are we saying that MP work isn't 'vital'?

MarkUrban01 George Bush? Agree, although the party was mental well before him

Translation: US, France, Germany and UK want to escalate their proxy war in Ukraine.

Can your post the stats faisalislam showed in this segment please

Good grief, Newsnight Twitter team! Proofread your tweets, please.

Grammar!

She’s great

😂😂😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️

Yes, caution!

nicholaswatt A group of bullies plotting against a bigger bully, truly, my heart bleeds

nicholaswatt Grant Williamson has a pet tarantula, in his office, like some pound shop Bond villain ? Oh, to hell with him, he clearly deserves all he gets.

nicholaswatt Mike_Fabricant wears his pet tarantula on his head.

nicholaswatt Pet tarantula?

nicholaswatt ToryBritain GavinWilliamson ToldYouSo🤡🤦🏻‍♂️🕳 RishiSunak PMQs

nicholaswatt 'Yeah! Let's kill his pet! Let's squash it. And stuff.' They really are a bunch of squealing schoolkids aren't they? Our lords and masters...

nicholaswatt Has a slow resignation conveyor belt clicked into motion? The boss of the foul angry text! Presenting King Gavin The Vexed! He's succumbed to the grind And duly resigned Is Suella Braverman next?

iamhamesh nicholaswatt That anecdote is truly sickening and just sums up these people. No interest in tackling the problem, just do something nasty and vindictive instead. Difficult to identify any decent human beings in the current crop of Tory MPs.

nicholaswatt Stamp on the pet tarantula? A reminder these are senior MPs in our govt, not primary school children. Don’t they have actual work to do?

vicderbyshire Please drop the 'Sir'.

Forced into resignation by abuse, bullying & harassment by media & liebour incessant corrosive attacks are they going to claim innocence. 2 wrongs do not make a right. Is this a victory for coordinated 'mean girl' tactics

Yep these scum need outing, oh sorry Raynor are you resigning

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meanwhile....

What are the expectations for a 'Sir'? Chivalry springs to mind.

nicholaswatt This says more about them than it does about Williamson.

nicholaswatt All these stories confirm, over and over again,That tory MPs lack integrity, honour, and decency. They should not be running the country.

nicholaswatt Oh my word.

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt How do people like that get into any job let alone politics and then get away with it for so long. It’s disgraceful.

nicholaswatt Sorry, who has a pet tarantula?

nicholaswatt Apparently, the tarantula shared his desk with an actual whip!

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt Beyond parody

nicholaswatt So take their hatred out on an innocent creature? Typical tories. Truly disgusting people.

Mixyezpitlek nicholaswatt Did he actually have a pet tarantula?☹️😱

nicholaswatt When u think about it being a “Whip” is a shit title, tarantula on yr shoulder or not! Whipping dogs or people into following the party line? What an outdated system we seem to cling on to! Whipping? Really?

Ha! This is the same Angela Rayner who described Tories as ‘scum’ is it? And so just what is it that Newsnight sees in Ms Rayner that makes her such an appropriate voice to judge the standards of others? Ye gods.🙄

Earlier in the interview Angela Rayner said, 'I find it absolutely you know....'! How nice it would be if politicians (and journalists, TV presenters and newsreaders) could manage to speak properly! Proper spoken communication skills matter!

nicholaswatt i hate spiders but it's a bit wet to be stamping the spider if you know what i mean betty

nicholaswatt Oh my word 😆🤣🤣

nicholaswatt leave the tarantula out of it. If you have a problem with the annoying little twerp, stamp on him. Leave chronus alone.

I have long admired Tatchell's courageous human rights activism. But 30 seconds in Qatar on equality ? Pathetic. Bravery should mean calls on England and Wales to withdraw from a tournament which legitimises abuse.

nicholaswatt Threatening the tarantula is disgusting, it's terrible owner isn't it's fault

nicholaswatt The quality of british politics. And the scumbag that started it doesn’t attend parliament, gatecrashes cop and builds up his after dinner chat profile. That’s an old Etonian for you!

nicholaswatt Feck sake we are being governed by people with the mentality of 7 year old high on the old blue smarties

nicholaswatt Great tune from Nostradamus

nicholaswatt Poor tarantula.

nicholaswatt Tory MPs are pathetic - Williamson is a pillock, surely someone should have had the guts to stand up to him to his face? Is it a public school thing? Discussed killing his pet while he wasn't there, but call him out? No. Jeees, the sheer quality, the bravery of our leaders....

nicholaswatt Whips is mainly associated with the slavery trade, isn't it time this job had a better tittle , the whip terminology should be confined to history

nicholaswatt Newsnight homing in on Britain's No.1 doorstep issue - who tweeted what

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt If only they could direct their energies into something useful like, energy security or recouping monies extracted and sent to tax havens.

Fifa have the temerity to publicise that players should stick to football , not get involved in conversation outside How removed are they from the real world , arrogant , disgusting

nicholaswatt Totally normal party 🙄

vicderbyshire Nor a knighthood. They can’t say they weren’t warned.

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vicderbyshire Oooh wondered when she’d pop up, did you ask her about nick brown ?

nicholaswatt Vile. The whole lot of them Conservatives

nicholaswatt He had a pet tarantula

A generic 30 second message on 'Human Rights' is not enough and You know this. The Phrasing implies that LGBTQ & Women's Rights will not be specifically mentioned. 'We the Welsh/English/Etc team hope the Qatar Gvernment works on its human rights record' Is a Cop Out. Boycott

Shame on this organisation which doesn’t represent football fans

scumgate. Hypocrite

Are you putting anything up about the World Cup? I find your presenters shock and horror over one Gay man committing suicide in Quatar in sharp, disgusting and hypocritical contrast to all the teenage suicide victims of same sex sexual abuse in the UK. You never report the Truth.

It was hard not to laugh when Nick Watt said that some MPs had a discussion about freeing his pet tarantula and stamping it to death. Madder and madder.

Different Times ! ' That's John being John ' nicholaswatt MichaelLCrick

Parliament must ensure Tories behave. No exemplary workplace allows bullies. Yet Labour criticism betrays hypocrisy. Two shadow cabinet members feature among 56 MPs who face sex misconduct claims.

Go ask China for reparations for Covid .. you might have a valid one there …

Melodramatic. We just move in with the Maroons, if it comes to that.

vicderbyshire They get plenty £29,000 a year

vicderbyshire Anything for free money

Thank you matthewsamuda We are indeed at a tipping point🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

What joke isn’t Jamaica & other Caribbean islands about receive massive investment from the world’s biggest polluter China

vicderbyshire Instead of the enforced licence fee Tax going to the BBC let’s give it to the NHS & the nurses

vicderbyshire needs to be a big review any PM who lasts less than 1 year should get the smallest pension pot any system that pays 115K pension for life for crashing the pound, making people's mortgages much higher it's blatant corruption

vicderbyshire Victoria if they hadn't promised to pay a sitting PM 115K a year for the rest of her life for being utterly & totally useless they would have enough to pay the people who deserve a payrise rewarding a PM with such a huge pension pot for failure is blatent corruption their...

vicderbyshire They really are pushing this black hole rubbish. The gap in funding is there becasue the Conservative party picked a date to reduce % of debt to GDP. We already did austerity during a recession it failed, 1 decade ago. Not 30 or 40 years but this exact government....same faces

Derbyshire asks the unison lady we have a fifty billion black hole shouldn’t we all play our part…looool….no Vicky because we didn’t play our part creating it that was the lettuce and NO person should be made to pay for that abomination indeed we need compensation ta

vicderbyshire Rather galling for MPs to be telling nurses they cant expect to have a decent salary when said MPs sit on a very nice minimum £84,000 plus expenses. Some district nurses are subsidising the NHS by paying much of their petrol costs of going from one patient to another. A Disgrace!

vicderbyshire Also need to open up immigration to nursing.

vicderbyshire His answer will be to recruit cheap staff from hard pressed 3rd World. Then they don't need to pay for training either. To a tory, win win newsnight

vicderbyshire And Vaccines too. Constantly repurposing staff from key services to make profits for privately owned Pharma, whilst Excess deaths are way above average for nearly a year and silence from BBC

vicderbyshire Unfortunately missed the programme tonight. Did anybody address the black hole left in the economy by an ideology driven exit from the European Union, rather than one that made any economic sense?

vicderbyshire It might have helped a little if so many staff hadn't been 'encouraged ' to leave after Brexit?

vicderbyshire It was a non sequitur soup, in that clipped, oh-so-reasonable Ellwood tone

Does the world get back the technology that started and improved the Industrial Revolution in return? Yes, undoubtedly some harmful effects but what benefits has the world got in return?

Huh? I'll be watching this tomorrow, but that seems crazy to me!

The average temperature in Jamaica is 0.6 °C higher than it was 28 years ago.

Clearly not a high bar to be a congressional district representative; what an absolutely ridiculous statement for Dina to make. I really hope you challenge her on this as it’s quite frankly, pathetic nonsense.

This must be a joke, right.

Course he does 🤡

Look's like incompent governments around the world who have failed to secure their people's security now want someone else to pay for it, why vote for incompetence!

Titus gave President Joe Biden an “A” grade for his performance in the past 21 months. That's why she will lose^^. No one in there right minds believes he's done a good job, lowest rating POTUS in history.

Not really a surprise.. Given it's mostly right-wing Republican men deciding policy for womens' bodies.. Not that much different to what has been happening in Iran!

mattduss Can we get Mo Salah to do something? Maybe david_conn can help with his experience regarding Mansour Ahmed

Why not ask Tony Blair? He part of the racket keeping the brutal military regime of General Sisi in place?

vicderbyshire Interesting that the moral judgment rests with Egypt to free one of its own citizens from an unjust & unnecessary incarceration but it's now up to the UK to seek justice from him. Egypt is not a Commonwealth country (Suez crisis, 1956) - influence to coerce them is surely small?

vicderbyshire Whilst you offer us informative charts on a big screen (eating a fair amount of electricity - not sure the Beeb in this crisis with the rest of us), you fail to hint at possible solutions that we all need to take to reverse this recession. We all need to keep spending where pos!

vicderbyshire Who believes anything the BBC says.

Victoria Derbyshire is hopeless in this role.

vicderbyshire We have enough activists thank you .

BBCPolitics OMG! Priti Patel brought back nazarin from Iran and she got nothing but criticism. Not one thank you did I hear!

Whatever do you think the producers signed him u He is so divisive and some detest him to such a degree the phones will be red hot in his favour and producers will be laughing all the way to the bank

🤣 Labour’s instituting a phone-in shift system, with most of the Tories also signing up

Will he be the first out of the jungle?

This tweet replaces an earlier one that had incorrect wording

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KirstyWark Matt W**kock MattHancock 'Jack in' his seat, with two years of £88k, plus expenses and pension - not likely! His Covid shares windfall means it's not about the money, it's all about the size of the Kangeroo penis he can swollow, bit like his voters 🤠🤬

KirstyWark So Kirsty Wart likes older men with hairy chests. Looks like poor Angela Eagle will have to transition then!🤣😂😆🤪!

KirstyWark That the guy that sold off the Royal mail on the cheap? Looks like the current crop of clueless terrible politicians isn’t a new thing. Vincent is a perfect example.

KirstyWark He won’t have a choice!

KirstyWark Uk politics is broken if you can have MPs on constant holiday (LiarJohnson), working from the Caribbean (several) or going on TV shows but can remain as MPs!! It’s a joke

BBCNews vicderbyshire Restraining needs to be that- to restrict and restrain.

nicholaswatt All downhill since Emily left

BBCNews vicderbyshire I would say that stalking is a mental health crime more than a criminal one and stalkers should be locked up permanently in secure psychiatric hospitals. A prison sentence won't do anything but make them more dangerous.

vicderbyshire someone called Waxman is a professional victim is the least surprising news i will hear today

BBCNews vicderbyshire Accra city Hotel in ghana is Training and Keeping terrorist in their Hotel fully sponsored by the Current President of Ghana Nana Addo to use them to Destabilize the peace in

nicholaswatt Hey guys, when you're struggling to decide what to put in your program.....here's some advice, the clue's in the name......NEWSnight 🤦‍♂️

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nicholaswatt Did he really belive it wouldn't be a disaster. Who in their right mind would believe he would be good at anything.

nicholaswatt There’s that award winning bbc quality we can always rely on

nicholaswatt Michael, your HAIR !!

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt Well if he really wants a terrible experience he should visit Manston …

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt Is this what Newsnight has come to - bad Bojo impressionists? 🤷‍♂️ confused

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt I expect it was an awful experience for his date as well!

nicholaswatt His experience, what about his poor date - fancy being face to face with that - I'd have made the need the loo excuse and legged it

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt Is that really Michael fabricants real hair or just a very ill fitting wiggy? Serious question, nothing really to do with me, but my friend wants to know. Thanks

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt Surely he’ll watch this back and see what we see. It’s very distracting

vicderbyshire nicholaswatt 'Dignity always Dignity' SingingintheRain

KirstyWark And what if they are unable to work?! 2 Million people with Long Covid alone!

KirstyWark What would help is if the government scrapped the BBC’s licence fee

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KirstyWark Outside the Westminster bubble in-work poverty is a thing! The government are literally propping up profits with in-work benefits. How does any MP in the country not know this & how did The BBC sink into such poor levels of honest reporting about obscene wealth inequality

KirstyWark Ms Wark content for government of 12yrs to delay sharing detail of potential tax increases, spending cuts until 17th November. Not so angelaeagle and Labour. No, they are expected to provide, across the board detail of their fiscal plans despite being in opposition torymedia

KirstyWark This shit simply will not scrape off our shoe.

He's not a 'former' MP - yet.

KirstyWark Shocking that Newsnight doesn't show RachelReevesMP 's colleague intervention. Usual ToryShambles blaming UKLabour for having to borrow after the global financial crash caused by ppl like PMRishiSunakTheBanker

KirstyWark His answer wasn't as bad as this tweet implies, the taper rate is terrible at the moment.

boycottimaceleb shame on ITV.

He'll only be out of the country not representing his constituents for as long as what Boris Johnson has been since he left office!!

KirstyWark Make employers pay the living wage.....if employers cannot afford to pay the living wage then they need help in running a busines.

KirstyWark What a 🛎️🔚

KirstyWark I have the greatest respect for Kirsty Wark but recently am disappointed to see her interviewing skills on the wane. Her constant interruptions are not acceptable of people of high profile internationally, politicians at home etc. Asking questions while answering them herself.

Matt Hancock’s constituents should not be expected to pay a single penny to condemn the grasping, talentless member to eat a succession of animal penises.

KirstyWark Like those two groups are mutually exclusive.

KirstyWark MP's had a pay rise of 2.7% in 2021. The REAL workers of this country haven't had a real terms pay rise in 4-5 years. The Tories couldn't run a tap, let alone the economy.

nicholaswatt Vince Cobblers led voters a merry dance on student fees and austerity. Self-interested politicians, dire public services. I'm in Britain...Get Me Out of Here! The first contestant voted out has to stay in the country the longest, without a break, forced to eat only English food.

KirstyWark Most people on benefits are in work full time! People are forced into claiming universal credit to top up their pitiful low wages. Sick of the working class being demonised. The real scroungers are these private schooled MP's claiming expenses for heating their stables.

KirstyWark I admin temp so I'm in and out of work. I need UC to top up my NI. Who is this DannyKruger ? Has HE ever worked a day? These Conservatives seem to be conveniently birthed into Surrey golf clubs. Much like RobertJenrick . I take it he's been to Newark by now... Newsnight

KirstyWark I think he’s just playing for time and hoping for a Republican win in the US midterms. Won’t need nukes then.

nicholaswatt Fabricant is aged 72. Clearly he’s a friend of Botox.

KirstyWark Does this guy actually understand how the benefits system works ?

KirstyWark Can he encourage Handcock and Johnson into work? They are receiving tax payer funded benefits at the moment and yet have not showed up for work….

KirstyWark Yet bankers need incentives of massive bonuses & top 1% of earners a reduction in their tax rates? Why is it that poverty is only an incentive for the poor? Victorian attitudes from the son of a woman who presides over a programme which wastes food for entertainment. Hypocrisy

KirstyWark 10% of £300 pcm is far, far less than 7% of the average salary. This argument is ridiculous.

KirstyWark His answer was actually sensible, the taper benefit.. Maybe there's hope for the Conservatives yet provided they don't allow companies to cheat on minimum wage because the know employees get back filled by benefits...

KirstyWark There are people who would love to work but can’t because they have serious illness that prevents them from working or they’re caring for a loved one because the care system is broken or workplaces don’t accommodate their disability etc.

KirstyWark Why anyone still watches newsnight is a mystery, is there a worse presenter than Kirsty Wark?

KirstyWark Finger on the pulse and knowledge seeping from every pore.Well done Danny. How about those working full time and still needing to claim benefits you plum?

KirstyWark If you genuinely want to encourage people into work, you need to support them to do so. Why are we seeing such record high numbers of economically inactive? Because so many are now being left to struggle so badly with illness and disability they can’t seek work.

nicholaswatt Michael Fabricunt

KirstyWark Danny aka 'Freddy' sure knows how to scare at Halloween, the dirty Tory bastrad.

KirstyWark Utter strawmannery. Either he doesn't understand the benefits system or he's being disingenuous. Possibly both. newsnight

KirstyWark I see that Kirsty has her Tory rosette on tonight. I’m beginning to think the Labour Party are in power the way she’s questioning angelaeagle Switched over to Press Review on Sky.

KirstyWark 40% of people on benefits are in work.

KirstyWark Checks notes on : in work claimants. Unlike Mr Kruger. 🙄

KirstyWark Some people don't have a choice whether they are on benefits or not.

KirstyWark Maybe we should start by cancelling the £115,000 benefit per year for previous Prime Ministers?

nicholaswatt Did he hit it off with a mop in a cupboard?

nicholaswatt Moaning about raising money for “a cancer charity” - he obviously can’t even be bothered to remember which one. What a skinflint. And, as for Hancock supposedly donating part of his fee to a hospice just to look like he cares…

nicholaswatt Don’t care about this. Newsnight is about news not this rubbish. Serious what are you doing?

nicholaswatt She asked him directly about the syrup 😂

nicholaswatt Why is anyone even remotely interested?

nicholaswatt Stop giving this no mark air time. The man who yelled “bollocks” when the downfalls of brexit were pointed out. He was the sycophant that Boris rolled out to try and defend and deny the party’s. Weapon.

MrHarryCole nicholaswatt didn't watch it but hope she was shouting ' TAKE IT OFF'

nicholaswatt Did Dougal, the Magic Roundabout dog, crawl on to his head and die?

nicholaswatt So long as we're taking about Hancock & Co on reality shows we're not talking about Suella Braverman, cost of living crisis, NHS etc eh.....

nicholaswatt Have you been hacked?

nicholaswatt did they tug his wig off and slap his spam head?

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nicholaswatt Yeah, you're going to have awful first dates if you wear pasta fettuccine on your meat head.

nicholaswatt How does he expect anyone to take him seriously in that ridiculous syrup? I'm sure everyone who interviews him must be suppressing a snigger.

nicholaswatt I remember seeing it. I’m sure his only requirement was that his date didn’t mention his “hair”, but on the date she mentioned his “hair”.

nicholaswatt Look at the state of that wig

nicholaswatt Stop putting him on telly

nicholaswatt You're not selling it to me. newsnight

nicholaswatt cringe - hair -mirror

nicholaswatt this is newsnight, right?

KirstyWark WTF!!!!

KirstyWark 😑

KirstyWark When can't even get the Tory ain't-never-been's title right... Loughton's not a Tory knight - he's just a Tory twit! (Spot the Labour poster Tim?!)

KirstyWark That's some defence! Good god...

KirstyWark Another one for investigation! Police!

KirstyWark If he was a civil servant, of any grade, he would be expected to use the gear provided to him. Pc, laptop, phone, everything. If he chose to use his own personal equipment (& associated network, security software, phone company etc) he would be disciplined, probably dismissed.

KirstyWark Shockingly dim, of Tim.

KirstyWark if that's the case why did she resign in the first place?

KirstyWark They would not get away with such a lack of data protection within most major companies. Definitely a disciplinary matter.

KirstyWark Wonder why the Russians are involved

LabourSJ KirstyWark did he mothers not teach him two wrongs do not make a right

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KirstyWark I just wish we could have a general election and get rid of these despicable Tories that have ruined our United Kingdom

KirstyWark You can see how everything get shifted to the right when Labour are as right as Tories on immigration...

KirstyWark Another one for Mi5

KirstyWark Loughton was just displaying the usual Tory condescension and arrogance. Still blaming Labour after 12 years in government.

vicderbyshire KirstyWark Well he’s just a typical Tory then. They all think the rules apply to everyone but them.

KirstyWark Oh ok

vicderbyshire KirstyWark Oh ok

vicderbyshire KirstyWark That’s alright then Tim

KirstyWark Wow!

HRRBFireSafety KirstyWark Vulnerable to hacking.

KirstyWark Is he championing the disregard for security? Does he think he's exempt from sensible rules? Is he just dim?

KirstyWark Yes, he knows how to use email

KirstyWark So they are all as thick as each other?

vicderbyshire KirstyWark So , that's ok then? Jolly good

vicderbyshire KirstyWark I’m sure Putin is making note of all these things

vicderbyshire KirstyWark Then I’d argue that he was, and isn’t, suitable to hold any office, including being an MP! What a shockingly awful standard…..

KirstyWark LockHimUp

KirstyWark OMG the justifications for breaking the law include self confessions of breaking the law as if trivial! After the deluge of deception and arrogance the Tories have mandated over the last 12 years, does anyone now know the difference between Right and Wrong? GeneralElectionN0W

KirstyWark Report him to the police then. He would insist that everyone does it is no defence

KirstyWark 'We've all done it' doesn't make it right. And she's created the problems he wants her to be allowed to solve! I'm so, so tired of these people.

KirstyWark You couldn’t make this up ….the Tory party used to claim it was the party of law and order and all they do is break the law themselves!

KirstyWark I am so relieved that the Albanian issue is being addressed. We cannot have their gangs over here and must be rooted out.

KirstyWark Ah. The well know ‘I’m a criminal as well’ defence.

KirstyWark The government is literally inventing new climate feedbacks now, as if there weren't enough - more climate disruption means more refugees, and they want to respond with high-emission charter flights. We can't shore up inequality with fossil fuels forever.

sima_kotecha Braverman ended the day kind of having shored up her reputation I think as the darling of the right in the Tory party. Reports of overcrowding & bad conditions at the Manston, Suella admitted UK's asylum system was 'broken' but she is not to blame at all for this disaster. OMG.

KirstyWark timloughton should resign also then as should any other MP, no matter from which party. This isn't a game we pay our politicians to play. It's people's lives & futures at stake. GeneralElectionN0W NOV5BeThere ToriesDestroyingOurCountry ToriesAreASecurityRisk

sima_kotecha Suella Braverman has insisted she was not to blame for the crisis at Manston refugee centre, as she attempted to shore up her precarious political position by aggressively ramping up her rhetoric over immigration. She's walking on thin ice and not up to doing the job of Home Sec

KirstyWark It's quite extraordinary really to reflect on how deeply Rwanda scheme proponents' arguments *claim* to be all about finally ending human trafficking through a giant international 'nudge' behavioural economics experiment to 'smash' human trafficking out business altogether..

sima_kotecha Suella Braverman: A hallmark of people who have strong narcissistic and other dark personality traits (hereafter referred to as narcissists) is the avoidance of taking responsibility for their dysfunctional or incompetent behaviour. Suella is a narcissist among many of the Tories

KirstyWark Priti Patel is blaming her successor Suella Braverman for the failure to take steps to prevent the Kent asylum centre crisis, piling further pressure on the home secretary. Home secretary says she never blocked hotels for refugees and was not to blame for overcrowding at centre.

sima_kotecha Priti Patel is blaming her successor Suella Braverman for the failure to take steps to prevent the Kent asylum centre crisis, piling further pressure on the home secretary. Home secretary says she never blocked hotels for refugees and was not to blame for overcrowding at centre.

KirstyWark Excellent defence - 'I ve committed more offences' When Suella finally goes, perhaps you shld too.

KirstyWark Information security costs lives. You should be in prison, man.

KirstyWark Idiot

sima_kotecha Can someone explain why asylum to UK can not be applied for in France?

KirstyWark KirstyWark and how was your first following question not “WHY didn’t you use the departmental device!!?”

KirstyWark What a ridiculous thing to say

She's correct.

KirstyWark “No more jobs for Tim”.

KirstyWark “And what’s your name?” “ Don’t tell him Tim Loughton” “ Tim Loughton, your name shall also go on the list”

KirstyWark GASLIGHTING ALERT. Tory lying and truth twisting! 12 years in power and another system is broken! We can't afford this government anymore! Nothing works properly anymore!

sima_kotecha Daft. The place just needs more prefabs.

KirstyWark What a tit

KirstyWark His role is to be big bluffer for a discredited regime.

KirstyWark Did he also mention we send 200 and they send 200 back

KirstyWark Charge him then

KirstyWark That series of interviews was truly depressing. A little microcosm of the state we are in. Smug Tory stooge facilitated by client journalism and shifting blame for the mess of the country on the last Labour government. Expert who may have something interesting to say - ignored.

KirstyWark Banging defence there, timloughton: 'I was too backward to wrap my head around the concept of more than 1 phone, so I don't see the problem in the Home Sec. being similarly thick.'

KirstyWark Another evil lying Tory twat. Remember his name.

KirstyWark The Tories’ defence is “we can’t fire Braverman because we are all breaching the ministerial code all the time” 😂

KirstyWark The ghastly blob at work…

KirstyWark Then, investigate him too.

KirstyWark 😱

KirstyWark 🤦

KirstyWark When I was a teacher and had to sign a condition of use statement for my IT equipment, I followed the rules.

sima_kotecha There is an instant solution which would stop refugees crossing in small boats and risking lives. Setup a UK migrant processing centre in Calais. Legal refugees could then come over by safe ferry/train. Anyone attempting to cross in small boats would be illegal and returned.

KirstyWark That’s yet another MP that needs investigating! How many more have broken national security and ministerial breaches FFS! GeneralElectionNow

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KirstyWark Eh, this isn't good

KirstyWark Ok then, let’s have an inquiry into Tory ministerial offences 👍🏼

KirstyWark What about dealing with Britain’s crisis? Which was actually created by Conservative ministers, some of whom are from migrant backgrounds, who have trashed the country, caused chaos and don’t even accept accountability! They deserve a trip to Rwanda.

KirstyWark Sir Tim Pot

KirstyWark Does he think that helps ?

KirstyWark We’re not really going to improve our security while people with this sort of attitude are still given senior roles

KirstyWark Newsnight said hotels for migrants cost £7 million a week - Braverman said it was £7 million a day, didn't she?

KirstyWark Not a particularly effective line to take in defence of an embattled Home Secretary.

KirstyWark And there, quite brazenly, is the archetypal Tory: I’m special, the rules don’t apply to me.

KirstyWark Moaning about Labour in 2010?! PATHETIC.

KirstyWark Absolutely no questions about what the previous Home Secretary Patel has achieved. Lost opportunity.

KirstyWark Astounding. Good grief. Making a live confession.

KirstyWark Why does a Tory boasting abt getting away with breaking the ministerial code in the past think that excuses a minister caught breaching it today? The cavalier attitude of Tory MPs to rule-breaking is as baffling as their casual attitude to gouging expenses. Newsnight Braverman

KirstyWark Is it me or does this happen a lot when a Tory MP is found breaking the rules. Colleges try to water it down by saying they’ve done a similar thing loads of times. Just openly admitting they are incompetent? Baffling, another reason why this lot should be nowhere near government

KirstyWark You couldn't write this stuff - basically saying we all did it so what?

KirstyWark Weird confession

KirstyWark

KirstyWark Full investigation needed on his words

Instead of ‘sympathising’ with the wretched Patel, Blunkett needs 1/to stand up for asylum seekers and 2/the UK’s legal obligations towards them. Stop the politics over people’s lives. Period. LordBlunkett pritipatel UKLabour Keir_Starmer

The word sympathy and Priti Patel shouldn't be used in the same sentence.

Those who listen to the whole interview & think DB sympathises with Notso Priti need to go back to school & learn to interpret simple English, Not Bastardise what they perceive is between the lines. He stated clearly, He would rescind this law on A it’s wrong & B it will fail🤔😷

For anyone who misses New Labour

Such a shame David Blunkett's career was derailed. He would have made a better PM than Gordon Brown and might well have beaten Cameron.

But - what about the EU using Turkey or Greece and it’s JMD . Are we any different to the EU?

Of course he would.

FFS Lard Blunkett again, just retire man. No one cares about your sympathy for the oompa loompa from hell.

Experience, ideas, a plan not only criticism, he graciously sympathises with the impossible situation, good man 🌻

I don't think it's impossible but it's difficult as it requires a lot of brave policy making to implement a growth policy, which no party is willing to put their weight behind.

'sympathises with Priti Patel' Lol gtf outta here. She deserves nothing for her incompetency, not fit to tie laces.

BBCTwo KirstyWark Last night ‘Newsnight‘ put Starmer under the microscope with a ‘random’ selection of ‘viewers’. Why Kirsty? He is not the one under investigation. Smacks of stupidity at the least or ‘Protect Big Ejit’ at the other end of the spectrum.

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