I secretly discovered hate-speech in my husband’s group chat | Dear Mariella

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You’re right to be worried about homophobic comments – but own up to spying on his phone before criticising him

Photograph: Ivan Chiosea/AlamyPhotograph: Ivan Chiosea/AlamyI recently read my husband’s WhatsApp conversation with a group of 10 of his friends – which I realise was a complete breach of trust – and was horrified about what I read. They made nasty, homophobic comments about one of my siblings and my husband didn’t intervene. He has told me before that he knows his friends’ “banter” is extreme, and that I shouldn’t look at it if I don’t want to be offended.

 

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mariellaf1 Appalled at this 'advice'. Hate speech and non-consensual sharing of private sexual images are not equal transgressions as looking at your husbands phone. Shocked by your tacit allowance of hate speech, and lack of concern for the victims thereof. homophobia sexism

Probably just good old fashioned manly office abuse.

Mariella wastes half the article moaning about Twitter Lol! Courting replies and outing people for 'virtue signalling' - call it what you will, Mariella, but I do think the hate-speech and sharing girlfriend's nudes is not just a tut tut. It's agressive and abusive.

love how it opens with some moralizing about twitter and about 'enlightened debate' or whatever.

Then look for records of Xbox Gamechat, total massacre lol

don't worry, spying on the spouse is a good way to not have one

Like most shit in this excuse of a newspaper it is probably a complete fabrication.

Time to dump him

If they are jokes its 100% fine. Now what will he find if goes thru ur phone? Talking to your ex again? Gary from work txtin u alot? What personal shit are you tellin your friends about him?

You are the company you keep. If I found out my s/o was a part of nonconsensual revenge porn or hate directed specifically at my family, we would have a serious issue. Plus I would question what else that person was lying about or hiding.

I suggest you leave him and let the bloke enjoy a happy life without you.

Time for some special Birthday sex!

Have you checked his email?😾

Best report him to the stasi and denounce him I suppose. Whatever you do don't try to engage him in debate, he may win you over with hate-facts. That's how hate spreads.

Now if roles were reversed, Dear Thelma would be shrieking about violating privacy and patriarchy and misogyny.

Call the Thought Police and have him sent to a Re-Education Camp until his thinking is correct with The State - problem solved

“Dear Mariella, I broke into my neighbour’s house and, I have to tell you, I can’t stand the decor”

Husband should be sent to re-education camp

What twisted priorities in this piece. How on earth have you made homophobic abuse and the unauthorised sharing if photos into a 'Twitter killed my freedom of speech' missive? Pathetic.

i hate willful ignorance and will tell you about it

He should dump you.

Why are his friends talking about my sibling unless they are all friendly? Otherwise that means the husband brought up something homophobic adjacent about him/her to even get on that topic. Also sharing private photos without permission is a huge offense.

If your husband had access to all your thoughts and conversations would you come off in a good light?

She should get a divorce

Going through someone else’s phone is not only a breach of trust but also worryingly controlling. Get some therapy.

Put more than 2 women in a room together with a bottle of cheap wine or 8 and far worse will be said. With men it's usually just 'banter' or showing off. With women it's often vindictive. Woman scorned and all that...

Do people not realise that all that stuff about secretly discovering stuff is just made up twaddle upon which to pontificate for a boring opinionated column? Maybe the moral should be dont be a nosy tart, stop spying on your husband and how would you feel if he hacked into yours?

spying dear you deserve what you get

Literally a crime being reported here, and Mariella manages to make it about a) herself and b) his right to view and share naked pictures of women without their consent.

Lol

snitches get stitches

There is no secret about it. You went through your husband stuff. It sum you up. What else are you capable of before you play Primadona?

The phrase 'Unicorns are gay!' Could be classed as hate speech these days.

Haha ‘hate speech’ is such a mard term. Why can’t we hate each other in speech? As long as nobody is hitting me or robbing me!

A completely fabricated story. One about discovering her kid was a BLM terrorist might have been more believable.

He should divorce you while he still has the chance.

Oh no - Divorce him immediately, not doing so means you’re just as bad 🙄

We always had our suspicions about Boris Dear OP, leave him

But to The Guardian saying “men can’t become women” is hate speech

So let me just check - homophobia and misogyny and sharing private photos of women are akin to looking in a partner’s phone on this person’s moral compass. Ok.

1/2....The only way you could have invaded his privacy more is if you'd pulled his pants down and shoved your fist in his ass, & if your husband didn't make the comments or respond favourably to them then I don't think you have an issue

MYOB

Some people in a social circle tend to be abusive in the depiction of other people from different social circles, and you can't expect anybody to intervene out of a link between circles. If your husband respects your sibling, that's all you're entitled to expect from him.

Get screenshots and then anonymously send to their employer’s managers and HR departments. That’ll teach them. Leave no evidence and deny everything

Banter and context are important. If they are saying the fag can't throw a ball, but he can lick them all day, that's likely a joke. If it's your family, say you're not comfortable, and just ask them to tone it down. BTW, I'm gay and like everyone you have to laugh at yourself

I think my wife would die of boredom going through my phone 😂😂 We share our emails on our devices and our passwords, secrets don't belong in a marriage. Divorce the angry muppet 😂😂

Imagine being married in 2020. 😅😂😂😂😂😂😂 needing a man laugh out loud😎

I've got mates or at least people I Know that occasionally send me questionable stuff on WhatsApp. I usually rebuff with something ultra lovely

We all know what Whatsapp is all about! He/You shouldn't be using it! It sucks! Same with stinking Hangouts! All bad invasive Apps! ☹️😷😱⚖️🗽🇺🇲

Oh no. ‘Hate Speech’ in group chat which you read snooping so was entirely without context 🙄

Over the years, phone makers have developed a plethora of methods to unlock a phone. Number code, patterns, fingerprint, eye scan,... Some are very convenient. How on earth is 'wife snooped on her husbands phone and saw something' still a thing?

And it jumped up from his phone and now i have mouth ulcers!

This smells of 1984. It was probably a joke in poor taste or a private conversation. 'Hate-speech' as a concept is Orwellian

Guardian reader discovers pro-brexit comments in husband's group chat.

Absolute snowflake 😂

Divorce him and go out with a woke guardian reading lesbian who hates white people.

I get sent horror porn all the time in different groups.

If true, each deserving of the other.

Snooping needs to be countered.

Good relationships allow a little 'spying'.

While looking for what? Think she has enough issues of her own to be getting on with.

He should fire you on the spot when he finds out that you snoop on him.

Don’t be snooping down peoples phones

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