On the face of it, John McDonnell is offering quite the deal: a reduction of the daily working week for all by almost a day, without a pay cut.
In and of itself, it would have a significant effect on the economy. But the opposition argue not just that the policy will not cost the economy, but that individual workers will not get a pay cut. How is such a free lunch, indeed tens of millions of such lunches, possible? The opposition are essentially trying to grab the benefits of a future decade of technological advancements towards workers, rather than business owners.That said, this does not seem hugely enforceable. The target is an average across the economy, which will only be revealed after the event in national statistics.
And that really is the point of this: providing the muscle of government for a hugely restored role for the unions to strike better working time deals for workers. But Labour also say they want higher wages.
32 hour week!! Im shocked that the mps want to work more than 24!! If that,
Wake up!!! Really that means less time in parliament!!!!!
For state departments yes, private industry - you know the ones that provide the money, maybe not!
Yet another Labour MP talking out of his backside.. With all the promises the Labour Party are making, this country will be bankrupt within weeks should they get the keys to No10.
Thought the BBC already had it
Great idea John! Let's all put less effort in and ask for more money, really works in politics, the gravy train doesn't work in the real world.
I guess you get paid 32 hours but still expected to get your work done when you got paid for 35-40 hours! So to keep your job you will end up doing some free work! Progress?
Its funny how business complain about 32 hour weeks but never complain about zero hour weeks.
They'll say anything to get in !!!
Not very well.... employers will larf at that .... cloud cookoo land 😂
I won't, useless people are willing to take pay cut
Yes if the BBC also could only brainwash for 32 hours a week whatisthebbcfor Biasedbbc AbolishBBCLicenceFee
It wouldn't..... Unfortunately....
We had a 3 day week in the 1970s, didn’t work out very well though
No thanks we would all have more time to watch your sh1t whatisthebbcfor Biasedbbc AbolishBBCLicenceFee
I wish it could work but can't see how you can be competitive or pay the bills on 32 hours a week
It wouldn’t 😂
I like.
I wish the book 'Pseudoarbejde' also came in English. The book would then be named 'Pseudo Work', and you will see, that even less than 30 hours weekly will cover our needs if we through out wast-work, particular in the offices.
We need to up productivity and get those responsible for paying taxes here - corporation or individual - to meet their obligations before his ideas can even be considered.
France has used it for 10 years.
It would not
It wouldn’t, the mans a clown 🤡
If anybody hard working real people will ever be able to do that. I work easily 50+ hours a week and that only just covers my outgoings!
That's just over 2 days work for us lorry drivers,
The public sector would be even more of a massive best than it is
Depend if people can afford the lower pay I work 50 hours per week sometime more
Mr Corbyn and his cronies have not evolved passed Arthur Scargill, he wanted to bring the country to its knees, is that what we really want, other countries like Japan ,China Korea are advancing in technology so far in advance of the UK, because the UK has unions stopping progres
Much the same way you march a hoodie to the cash machine.
Rubbish idea.
It wouldn’t work
It wouldn’t because a lot of people would have to go and find a part time job to make up there money.bit it would work for the rich and wealthy
It won’t. A best it will mean getting paid for 32 hours with plenty of unpaid overtime.
It does but only for the white collar folks not the working class because we are the best
There would be a lot of stressed people trying to fit the working day deadlines in to fewer hours
He’s deluded.
less money earnt == more people requiring benefit handouts for rent n council tax
How about the millions who are self employed you peanut
In practice everyone would do an extra days work to ensure their income does't fall
This labour partybshould have had the conference at the appollo threatre. It has to be the biggest Joke ever. Anyone anyone who thinks these policies of spend spend spend is economic suicide. The Brexit policy is more smoke than a forest fire. Confirmed Labour lunatics.
Waste of time and people make lesser money
I’m fine with this, as long as everyone works 32 hours a week, including the feckless dole bunnies and great unwashed who are currently sitting on their backsides reaping benefits.
It won’t...I do 45 hours a week do u really think my employer will be happy paying me the same for doing less...politics of cloud cuckooland
Can be difficult sometimes but when the digitalized society get's more in place things like this will be valid options.
Many MPs sit on boards where they work a few hrs a YEAR yet paid thousands (boris-£300k for one days work) so it should work ok
Typical Labour really. They would promise anything under the sun then find out they need money to achieve them. The only way to work less hours and earn more money is with high level of productivity.
So the Public sector is still cutting and we have too few Police, Nurses etc..... who are being asked to work overtime to backfill the workload. Labour..... Let’s cut the working week down la la la la la la la. This is delusional ffs
It wouldnt
Don't think it would. Although we work longer hours in Uk than rest of Europe. I'd like to see that addressed.
Great idea but make it a 10hr week and I can go to the pub, play golf and get bargains for the shutting down businesses.
Well the TORRIES should know. It wasnt that long ago they had 3 DAY WEEKS.
It wouldn’t, period, more illthought rubbish
They made a 3 day a week back in the seventies.
It won't
Lorry driver can work upto 15 hours a day legally and sometimes needs to in order to get the job done, so will they drop onto a two and a bit day working week
It wouldn’t, my husband regularly works over unpaid in the nhs because they are short of staff, how would this solve it, especially the stupid idea of less hours for the same money, it’s not viable
May well be what union members want to hear but won’t work for the majority of workers on minimum wage. Some of whom are working sixty hours or more to make ends meet.
Easy. 4 x 8-hour work days or some other combination. Wondering whether similar questions were raised when the work week was changed from 50-60 hours or more to 40 hours. Nothing is engraved in stone. Time to think !
Easier for the self employed to find people at home for plumbing repairs While we work 7 days
It couldn’t you numpties
Why not reduce retirement age instead
They talk out of their bums these people.... Someone get them some help
Hilarious. I have a nominal 37.5 hour work week but usually clock up between 40 and 45 or more as I have to travel for work. Physically couldn't do it in 32 hours.
You’d earn less money.
It couldn’t work in my work place. I work in a school and regularly work more hours than I’m paid just to keep on top of work load. Absolutely ridiculous idea that’s not been thought through at all
Oh look, the leftist bbc supporting labour lunacy. What a shock.
It wouldn’t
It works by closing down businesses so people do not have jobs , it works by slowing down production so they go out of business it works by paying over the top salaries so businesses can’t afford to pay more than 32hours a week . This man is Such a Clown 🤡
Just election talk, same crap every time
My machine works at a set pace. My company requires a set amount of productivity per week. Less hours would mean less output. Which would mean someone else would have to be employed to cover the shortfall in production. Higher cost, Less profit means lower pay for us all.
Can't see it going down well at the BBC, many will have to double their hours to 32 for the same money.
Shall we just turn up on s Tuesday?
Interesting how a 32hr week would pan out, since most of labours voters have never worked a day in their lives and have no skills apart from filling their benefit forms
Labours what next’ free gear for smack heads
Work is the wrong word isn’t it ?!!!
How would it apply to retail? Who always get the rough end of the deal? What 4 days do we decide to open if everyone else has a weekend? Or do I have to employ more people and still pay them the same so we can stay open 7 days a week to meet demand?
4x8 and a day off Friday?
It wouldn’t - people will just get another job - duh!
Labours policies are beyond belief antiwork
In practice? About the same as most of the others GPs 😊
Over worked in 4 days, then tax credit for holidays is advantage.
Let every one work from home and get paid as the family tax credit system in 2003 and whole Europe migrants flooded for it.
In general practice? In NHS? In schools?
example. There are over 300,000 nurses in the U.K., and let's face it, not enough. To simply keep pace with what us currently inadequate, we would need an additional 60,000 nurses. Salary say £30,000, that's a staggering £1,800,000,000. Not even HackneyAbbott can count that much
Outsourcing more businesses to the other countries.
It will be fantastic. I can spend more time growing my unicorn seeds.
It will work, just like it does in France. The large stores can have shifts of people who only work 32 hours a week. The Mom and Pop stores,restaurants, deli's, bakers,etc. have to close down as they can't work long enough hours to take in enough money to be solvent.
I think we should have siestas instead
With the wages that are the way they are 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 next joke.........
Labour’s work ethic: just put your feet up and get paid for it.
You know Saturday? It’d be like that on Friday.
And schools? Hospitals? Police? Another whacky idea by the loony left
Every business would just increase the prices of everything. False economy.
Ffs there is more to life than work pay people a proper wage in the first place it's not rocket science and before anyone starts moaning look at the profits the companies are making it's just greed
If they pay people a fair days wage instead of being greedy and pocketing as much as they can (government included ) it'll work just fine
It wouldn't !
Their heads are in the clouds
Greta Thunderbird will have the answer shortly first a nap though...
I currently work 40hrs a week at a rate of £10.91 per hour. Can someone please explain to me how I'm still going to be paid the same weekly wage if I only work 32hrs?
I currently work 40hrs a week at a rate of £10.91 per hour. Can someone please explain to me how I'm still going to be paid the same weekly wage if I only work 32hrs? LBC
It wouldn’t end of ....... next load of gobbledegook please....
Delusional move
You’d work 32 hours and have the weekend off?
Can you sort out the automatic test equipment I use to go faster so I can do the same amount of work in 32 hours as i do in 38 hours? Perhaps it's just me doing mathabbottbatics but the sums do not add up
Cruel to double an MP's working week !
1/2 day finish on Friday 👍🏻
Dream on
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A shorter working week is not a problem or a new concept... what is not clear is if this will be mandatory and how will it be paid for? 😂
On Friday’s you plant money trees.
We would all be told to opt out anyway so it will be loopholed
4x8=32
NHS staff, civil service, etc what happens there? My weekly Rota is meant to be 47.75 hrs....to be EW compliant...so it’s always breached. How would it work for us?
Less work hours means less money, so what is the point?
I’m quite happy doing 37 hrs thanks ...
What a set of out of touch plonkers. Most people live from month to month or week to week and this lot want to cut working hours?.lots of people of 2 jobs to supplement their income. Arent the labour party suppose to represent them ?.I'm assuming overtime is banned too?
First world problems.
About time this happened.
It wouldn’t
It wouldn’t be 32 hours. It would be 9-10 hours a day to make up the ‘lost’ day time. 8-6
It wouldn’t.
Labour do comedy instead of politics now
Businesses will go bust within a year!
There will be no small businesses for a start .... what a crazy idea !!!! Really worrying ideas coming from the Labour Party
Delusional.
UKLabour have there way leave workers at home and send them their wages Socialism ok till they run out of other peoples money
🙄 Somebody working a 40 hour week for £8 per hour, if working for the proposed 32 hour week at the minimum proposed £10 per hour would be no better off. Labour have promised this £10 per hour minimum almost as long as they have when promising to abolish The Lords 😂
This equates to starting work 30min later & finishing 30min earlier. Not a big change. Ppl against the idea, need to do some research. Productivity per hour is shown to increase with shorter working days. The deficits rarely outweigh the benefits.
It would have to be carefully managed. It's a good thing for people to get a better lifestyle, but in a way it also reminds me of an article I once wrote called 'everyone can't be a millionaire'... in other words, there has to be a logical system, to avoid complacency
It wouldn't. The end.
The voters who love voting for a miserable existence and to get fucking shafted are out on force. “No way! That sounds far too nice! It’ll never work! We don’t want it! We don’t even want to TRY it. Take it away!!”
What a great idea . Get paid the same but only do 32hrs . Seeing I’m self employment I’d be bankrupt within 2 months
no
how is this a questioN?
Sounds like a dictatorship.
Less money, small businesses will go out of business because they couldn't afford the additional staff. Large firms would move their operations to country's with lax labour laws, where a 100 hr week is normal. Pie in the sky politics
It wld make UK less profitable that all it's neighbors, sharp decrease in foreign investment, small businesses close, big business leaves, capped wages, massive inflation, strains nhs police and education, would reduce many people's wages 4rm day1: repssion's, bnkrpcy, starvation
Everybody works for 32 hours and then we all storm the refectory and sing antimanagement songs. I love it in the sixth form.
Ask the directors at the BBC
Iike Prodi promised in ITALY whe the euro was introduced. Work 4 days get paid 5.... now italy had the highest unemployment after Greece
It wouldn’t... which 4 days? Rotating shifts? Or will the country grind to a silent halt every Fri Sat Sun? Total nonsense.
It wouldn’t
It won't work. Labour are just trying to get more votes. Then, if they get into power they'll scrap the policy. Never trust labour again.
UKLabour going back in time not forward .... sadly
It wouldn’t .... end of. Corbyn’s Labour ... hate hard working people, people who don’t rely on the state, people who want to be successful, people who just get on with it, people with differing views to them. They want to control everything .. Orwell’s Animal Farm coming to life
It won’t , simple
Here is how: Mon - Work Tue - Work Wed - Work Thu - Work Fri - Work Sat - prob a picnic or the pub Sun - church to absolve the sins of Sat Why? Because they’ll never get into power because they are unfit to lead.
It works in the more forward thinking properly run countries....That is why it wouldn’t work here best go for 72hr week for same pay. That could work...
It won’t ? Haulage industry which I work in could never do a 32 hour week !!! I’ve normally done 32 hours by Wednesday,what’s happening rest of the week ? And to think employers are still going to pay the same money Jog right on,what a load of bollox
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure Norway dropped from a 40 to a 32 hour week.
Hold on ! That's at least three hours less per week they would have to lean on their shovels.
People getting laid off that’s how.
Lowers it to 20 hours! We’ll all have more time to read MAO’s red book! In fact why work at all ! Let’s Rob the Rich! Let’s confiscate wealth that “Marxists” are entitled to! History shows it works , right !? Put everyone in social security & that’s it. LabourConference
Instead of 40hrs you’d do 32hrs.
It won't.
What is labour? Absolute deluded embarrassment. They think this sort of nonsense wins votes- it scares anyone with a morsel of intelligence. GR.
We work one day less a week... It’s not rocket science.
Just lower the retirement age...
I clock for more than 100hrs a week I don't understand how that can go to 32hrs. I would be sick.
Presently, I work 30 hours on living wage. If they boost the living wage up to between £10/£11 an hour, 32 hours would be about the same,
So a fall in GDP will make us all rich! And we all have free prescriptions and students will have a full grant and public transport will be super cheap...😂😂😂😂
This would be alot more work for labour voters
Clearly they’ve never run a business. What a joke 🙄UKLabour
I'd love it. Trying to survive on 16 hours at the moment 🙄
We'd be paid less. Would be expected to do the same amount of work now in less time. Small business would struggle and fail. The NHS would struggle even more than it does now with its staffing levels. The list goes on. It's a lovely idea to work less but won't work in the UK.
NigelGM some people I work with are going to have to step it up a bit!
It wouldn’t 😒
I doubt my employer would go with it
They would have to double the hourly rate, never going to happen, bunch of walter mittys
Badly!!!
I think would be better if no one had to work at all. What could go wrong? 💊💊
Since Labour are determined to 'remain' unelectable the question is purely academic.
It wouldn’t work. Just like all those labour politicians and backers.
Labour have seriously lost the plot now
And on your extra day off you get free unicorn riding lessons
I leave someone without heating and hot water
Staff will be more productive with 32 hours per week .
Labour get worse day by day. The monster raving loony party had more credibility and sense than this lot
Back in the 70’s. Workforce’s were promised tht technology wld give ppl a 4 day wk! If it was an 8 day wk created then 4 day wk wld b the norm. Ppl hv flexi hrs. But it’s down to businesses & tht is where the trouble will start.
It wouldn’t period
4 days at 8 hours ?
My wife is a nurse working 12 hour a day. Someone else is coming after her shift and working a night shift. There is not enough staff. Can someone tell those deluded morons to get in touch with the Reality?!?!?!
If u lower the price of living 👌
How does increasing the NHS wage bill by 25% with no increase in productivity help improve it?
Shorter.
Great, let's all sit back and smoke a fat one when we need to step up and compete on the world stage. La la land for the feckless Marxists.
Free prescriptions, a private school education for all our kids, a 4 day week for the oppressed masses! Why not consider a fee free university system as well! What have those tight bottomed conservatives been doing with our money for the last decade! Corbyn money tree does exist.
It wouldn't. We dont all get hundreds of thousands a year for doing absolutely nothing like MPs do.
This is effectively a 25% increase in the wage bill. How on Earth would the NHS, Police, Civil Service etc. afford this?
This guy is looney tunes! we tried it in France - 35 hour working week, it's bullshit, everybody works 40 hours, or more if they can; they need the money. Companies won't pay you for a 40 hours working week when you've only worked 32! this would be economical suicide! Brainless!
All the empty shops on the high street would be useful for food banks
It wouldn't. Next. Stupid. Fucking. Question.
It wouldn’t...unless Dianne Abbot is working out the wages
Bunch of tossers
It would work for 32 hours
A 3 day week! Cool!!!
There’s no way MPs would agree to an increase in the hours they work!
Labour party members should know ......
I would like to hear John McDonnell’s take on that. I very much doubt if he has really thought it through. That is the way of politicians, especially left wingers.
Jesus Christ this is like the dark ages or 1970’s Russia UKLabour are now the unelectable comedy show this memo was sent by a prominent UKLabour MP from the conference
Everyone would be put on a hourly rate and work 37.5 hours a week
Badly?
How would it work? It wouldn't...I'd be out of business in a week. All these idealogical metro labour morons need to get a proper dose of the real bloody world
I've seen individuals where it would be a miracle to see them work a 32hr week.
Hunger.
It wouldnt
If stop paying taxes, benefits, military and political money laundering, cancel general suffrage and citizenship - probably we need to work, all of us - 10 hours in a week. Utmost. Labour party will disappear too. As many politicians, forever.
1977 just called. It wants its idiotic policy idea back.
The Key Phrase is ' within Ten Years '. ~ Easy to promise stuff so far away, especially as you know all the jobs will go to AI, or you will be assigned a job by a Marxist regime! ~ Socialism always ends in starvation and genocide.
Brennan_Howe liam_crosss charlie_gilks Brad_booker15 let’s get voting lads I love the sound of this, extra day in the boozer
The wife was over moon when I told her I was only working 4 days. Then I told her that the housekeeping would be cut by 25%. Her reaction surprised me though. I never heard her use so many expletives describing McDonnel.🤔
The whole country knocks off early on Friday and gets messy messy drunk I assume.
Less work and more play can only be bad for poor people with bad habits...
Ok do 4 day week 8 hrs shifts . Then need extra person to cover other shifts. Equates to 2 people doing one job lower salaries , bosses not pay as much for workers but worker takes home less pay . Overtime scraped yeah let's see if that would work ehhh nooooo. Economy down
Works in Sweden.
Most people will be 8 hours pay down in their weekly wage.. Would the Government make that up in tax credits? What a stupid Idea..
About as well as it did in 1970’s when we had to because of the power strikes when under Labour back then
And then we can all claim for a second home
Seems great!
They're not seriously proposing making it illegal to work more than 32 hours a week, are they? If so, why stop there? I propose a 2 hour work week including an hour for lunch
All I think people will do is have more hours to get second jobs. The issue is the hourly pay, cost of living and cost of transport.
It doesn’t work
Less hours, less pay, and income tax receipts. That's how.
McDonnell another mole for Nicola Sturgeon along with butch from the Lib Dem's
It would piss off the Tories and their Twitter warriors
It would still be twice as long as an MP sits in the House with an average of only 148 days a year, maybe they should work 300 days and try that for a change!
Small firms will struggle
Lower take home
It would instantly add 20% to the NHS wage bill. That's what it would do.. Billions
It won't just like their crazy proposal of £10 ph min wage..just another gimmick for young voters
Sure, if everyone will take a 20% cut in salary 🙄
Ask Friday? 😂😂😂 Works for me!!
Interested how this would work in the NHS, schools, emergency services, care homes and such. A
Immediate 25% hike in wage costs to all public sector and industry. No increase in output. Disaster.
Country would go bust...simples.
Asked no sane person ever. Labour are the party of make believe.
What do we do after Wednesday
It wouldn't
Probably better than BorisJohnson
It wouldn’t.
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It wouldn’t...
It wouldn’t!
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