Each day, news of more deaths is a huge source of alarm to people across the country - as well as a tragedy for the families involved.
But the hospital subsequently released a statement saying his death had been due to a separate"significant" health condition and not connected to the virus. Every year, about 600,000 people in the UK die. And the frail and elderly are most at risk, just as they are if they have coronavirus. But while deaths without the virus would be spread over the course of a year, those with the virus could come quickly and overwhelm the health service.The most immediate way to judge the current policy is to see if the health service manages to cope with the coronavirus cases it sees in the coming weeks.
If coronavirus turns out to be no more deadly than flu, the lockdown could limit the number of excess deaths to under 1,400 - more than 12,000 fewer than would have happened under the previous strategy of slowing its spread, before the decision was taken to move to lockdown.
People are dying from pneumonia who may have died anyway this year I would like to see the deaths to pneumonia figures for this year compared to last year. I fear some deaths are being put down to c19 and not pneumonia.
Is this helpful right now? Wont people read this and say sos it then I am off out ? Why would you think this was a good idea?
Dear , Someone has hacked your account. Sincerely, Everyone who understands the perniciousness of 'whataboutism'.
hErD iMmUnIty!
Corbyn could have had over 340% of UK die of Covid-19
A truly inevitable death is one that happens despite our best efforts to prevent it. Holding this attitude is effectively killing them with apathy.
Some of those dead people will be someone you care about but it was going to happen anyway so I guess it doesn't matter
This isn't some like...hacked situation? Y'all are a mess
You do realise every single person in the U.K. will die? Literally the worst defence of the government!
BBC trying to absolve the tory eugenics planners for their role in the premature deaths of thousands of people, dying alone with no loved ones, not even at their funeral or burial. BBC, you are a disgrace.
I I'd be surprised if Covid did not exacerbate the patients' situation and contribute to death or quicker death. Why are you trying to muddy the waters? Is this the time for your spin? Can you not wait until we're over this before firing up the old propaganda machine?
Nice to see the BBC News with the same exact take as a coked up Vanessa Hudgens
This is sinister and should be taken down immediately. BBC
So are autopsies being carried out to confirm cause of death, probably not given the additional numbers of deceased. However do you not think that news agencies are somewhat responsible for this misinformation? Not thoroughly investigating before breaking the news?
this article is a disgrace and you should be ashamed of yourselves, take some responsibility! 'Nearly 10% of people aged over 80 will die in the next year, the risk of them dying if infected with coronavirus is almost exactly the same.' tell me this is April fools? Shame
That if the Tory Government had done their Jobs proper and provided the NHS with the tools they needed thousands of patients would still be alive and dont start me on the poor Doctors and Nurses who have died due to incompetence from BorisJohnson MattHancock & Conservatives 🤮
Never have I been more disappointed or disgusted by your glib interpretation of numbers this is not reporting.
The figures show people are dying and those with underlying conditions or elderly may not have died anyway, do not trivialize facts. Why did you not count deaths from lack of hospital care due to staff being overwhelmed by the virus thus unable to provide regular care? COVID19
If the author gets the virus I will ask nobody from NHS to take care of him. It would be useless, as one day he's going to die anyway. According his point of view this should be the action. Cruel bastard!
What do you think you’re doing? Insensitive & frankly downright dangerous as folk will start flouting the advice & continue the spread. I know you’re trying to put a good spin on government’s failures but this is beyond reproach. Yeh why bother doing anything, folk die in the end
Why is bbc trying to defend the government, data from Italy clearly indicates that deaths are due to the virus.
This is an abomination.
This is really weird guys. Who gave Toby the social media passwords?
When the ICU’s are full and there are no ventilators or CPAP machines people who could have survived will die because of resources not because they would have died anyway. Some that have accidents or get ill for other reasons will also die because resources are overstretched
Ah good it’s the Shipman forecast
This thread is mental. The BBC reads more like a Tory government PR outlet every day. Frankly it's incredible that vile rags like the daily mail are doing better at holding them to account than you.
Everything about this thread is appalling. Heartless and pure spin. This is only intended to protect the government who have blood on their hands
But what do the figures really tell us? They tell us nothing because they’re inacurate AT BEST & falsified at worst. It ALSO tells us how the BBC is the Government’s own personal misinformation body. COWARDS!
This thread is actually pretty insensitive: Oh, the oldies would have died anyway.
Im moving to North Korea. Much better quality of state broadcaster than this quasi eugenicist nonsense.
MikeStuchbery_ The figures tell us that our leadership has wholly failed us, and that the elite are too busy making sure their own boats float while the world sinks. It shows us that even though officials knew of the danger, they did nothing to stop it until a high death toll would be certain.
The fuck is this shit?
“How to understand the death toll” We already do. You facilitated it every step of the way.
Jesus H Christ, what you playing at? This is appalling, s'ok, they'd have died anyway ! Maybe, but with dignity and family around, not this horrific death. NotMyPM Tory mouthpiece
oh and its also about people in their seventies fit and well with years ahead, greatly loved dying before their time, and some people aged 90 or even 95 can have more years of quality life, such as my grandfather who lived, mobile & compos mentis to 107
This just muddies the water for an already confused nation. Now people will be using this to send out messages to suit their agenda. Why didn't we just leave it at 'stay the fuck at home'.
Wow. Cumming’s press office on good form today.
A terrorist attack against the elderly or sick would be reported like this? ‘Well, they were going to die anyway!’
According to later in this thread, that you think Shipman was an unsung hero 🤦♂️
That you’re being monsters with this thread .... ‘ah they were gonna die anyway ...’ whoever wrote this thread needs to have a word with themselves and go tell their 80 year old relative they’re overreacting & to get back down pit. Evidently.
You know absolutely feck all about ‘Virus Pandemics’ n ‘Do Nothing’ ‘Mitigation’ or ‘Suppression’ options buds or the ‘models’ that run these ‘scenarios’ but guess what ‘virus pandemics that feck up lungs kill’ so ‘underlying health conditions’ does not mean ‘death’ 🐰👀😡😡😡
This thread is a *many expletives* disgrace. What do you think you are doing BBCPolitics? You are not the government propaganda service.
this message is a truly disgusting disregard for life and you should stop
What in fresh hell is this? What the actual fuck are you doing?
I’ll be sure to let my parents know that they are going to die anyway so they can invite their great grandchildren over and pop to the shops tomorrow after all.
Really want to defend the BBC more often but the state of this thread :(
They tell us that you are STILL bending over backwards to spin for the government. Quislings.
Nick Triggle again
That the bbc is hell bent on propping up this cund of a government
In the same way HIV kills off white cells and leaves a body without defence, you don’t die of AIDS, you die of a cold or something silly, covid 19 is attacking the lungs is it not, so essentially the person gets killed by pneumonia or breathing related illness..make sense?
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North Korea style propaganda?
Oh have you been instructed to tell everyone that every is absolutely normal and fine? The C IN BBC stands for Conservatives.
Covering for this heartless and incompetent government won't save you ...
Any reports on those recovered? Or you just looking to spread misery and doom
cloakey read this thread 👇🏼
This whole thread is utterly, utterly irresponsible and full of misleading facts and information. What the hell are you playing at?
Are the bbc suggesting we do nothing and let the virus run wild as it will make little to no difference to the amount of people that would die anyway?
UK media failing to point out that BorisJohnson encouraging people to catch COVID was murder that death rates will keep rising until end April
Deaths being reported daily are hospital cases where a person dies with the coronavirus infection in their body But is the virus causing the death? It could be the major cause, a contributory factor or simply present when they die of something else
BBCBreaking got to laugh, watching the news update at15.55 about covid 19 and social distancing, the presenter and the reporter are a lot closer than 2 metres at the table, different rules?
The figures tell us that people are dying while the UK Government fiddle about with their 'Politics'.
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That more should have and could have been done earlier.
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