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Australia ‘regrets’ France’s recall of ambassador as Aukus fallout predicted to last years

Australia ‘regrets’ France’s recall of ambassador as Aukus fallout predicted to last years

9/18/2021 6:30:00 AM

Australia ‘regrets’ France ’s recall of ambassador as Aukus fallout predicted to last years

Australia says it looks forward to engaging with France again but experts say submarine decision was ‘deeply humiliating’ for Paris

Last modified on Sat 18 Sep 2021 04.46 BSTAustralia has said it “notes with regret” France’s unprecedented decision torecall its ambassadorover the scrapping of a submarine contract – part of the Aukus military deal that experts said could damage relations for years and have serious broader consequences.

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A spokesperson for Australia’s foreign affairs minister, Marise, Payne said: “Australia understands France’s deep disappointment with our decision, which was taken in accordance with our clear and communicated national security interests.“Australia values its relationship with France, which is an important partner and a vital contributor to stability, particularly in the Indo-Pacific. This will not change.”

The spokesperson said Australia and France share many issues of interest and “we look forward to engaging with France again”.Read moreHowever, observers said France’s unprecedented decision to recall its ambassadors to Australia and the United States was evidence of the depth of opprobrium felt by the European power, an anger exacerbated by the clandestine and clumsy handling of the announcement.

It is understood to likely be the first in a series of protests from Paris.The Aukus deal, announced suddenly on Thursday, will see Australia unilaterally tear up a $90bn contract with France to build 12 conventional-powered submarines.Hervé Lemahieu, director of research at the Lowy Institute, told the Guardian while Australia’s submarine deal with the French state-owned Naval group had been plagued by delays, cost over-runs and “misaligned expectations”, the manner of abandonment was “deeply humiliating to France”.

He said: “This was much more than just a commercial deal, this was France’s flagship project in the Indo-Pacific. And the nature of the deal – an Anglospheric trilateral partnership – and the manner it which it was done, where it appears the French weren’t consulted, was deeply humiliating to France.”

The Aukus announcement could also have immediate broader ramifications.“We’re having trade negotiations with Australia,” France’s European affairs minister, Clément Beaune, told France 24, referring to ongoing talks on an Australia-EU free trade deal. “I don’t see how we can trust our Australian partners.”

France and the US have had significant diplomatic disputes previously, notably during the Suez Crisis in 1956 and the Iraq war in 2003, though neither of those has resulted in ambassadors being withdrawn.Lemahieu said: “The offence is most acutely felt from Australia, especially given how much energy multiple presidents, and in particular, [Emmanuel] Macron, has dedicated to this.”

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It could take years for the relationship between France and Australia to stabilise.“The French have long memories,” Lemahieu said. “France has to be careful though not to overplay its hand. Their anger is legitimate and understandable but mustn’t be allowed to take control. But even once relations are normalised, this will leave a lasting legacy, an element of trust has probably irretrievably been lost.”

Paris regards itself as a significant power in the Indo-Pacific, with Pacific territories such as New Caledonia and French Polynesia giving it a strategic and military foothold unrivalled by any other European country.“If Australia can alienate the major advocate for an EU Indo-Pacific strategy, what hope have we got in convincing Indonesia or other regional middle powers of the inclusiveness of the concept?” Lemahieu said.

Indonesia has already indicated its disquiet with Australia’s decision, saying it “is deeply concerned over the continuing arms race and power projection in the region”.Prof John Blaxland, senior fellow at the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre at ANU’s College of Asia and the Pacific, said Australia needed to be working to repair the relationship with France.

“We owe them probably about $3bn in penalties over the broken deal,” he told the ABC, and suggested Australia could propose leasing from France some of its Barracuda submarines to cover the capability gap before the new nuclear submarines arrive.“Let’s do something creative and mend bridges with France. France is an enduring Pacific power, let’s not forget. It has French territories in not just New Caledonia, but in Tahiti and in the Indian Ocean. So we have to make that relationship work and it’s in our interests to make that work.”

Jean-Pierre Thebault, the French ambassador to Australia, and Philippe Etienne, his counterpart in Washington, will return to Paris for “consultations”, France announced late on Friday. France has not recalled its UK ambassador.The withdrawal of ambassadors, usually an action of last resort between countries during a crisis, and an exceedingly rare action between allies.

Australia’s leader of the opposition in the Senate, Penny Wong, said on Saturday: “This isn’t the first time [Australian prime minister Scott] Morrison has blindsided an international partner or failed to do the diplomatic leg work before an announcement.

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“The Morrison-Joyce government must outline what steps it is taking to repair this important relationship.” Read more: The Guardian »

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Sadly the world has gone mad, seeing nations spending billions and billions on weapons (nuclear weapons!), in stead of on improving people's lives and combating climate. Do we deserve to be called mankind? Are we kind to each other anymore? Biden must have tripped and hit his head on the wall because he did something right for a change.

Aus does not have to explain itself, if they get something better from the US, why not? A lot of submarine experts on Twitter 🤣 Australia 🦘 is a CHEATER who are we now 3 weeks we endorsed the deal with Naval publicly now PM says we have been working 18 months to swap Minister does not know wrong to accept donations unkown people PM has to get advice to tell him its wrong used to be a generous straight forward nation Duplicitous.

To make up for the £40 billion the UK should give France the £500 billion contract for the UK test and trace program 👍 Johnsonout AUSFUK, FRAUKUS, FUKUSA & FAUKUS really didn't meet the big expectations of the negotiators of the treaty for nuclear submarines between our countries 🤣 Sorry France but your 'F-bomb' is hard to fit in there & not be utterly HILARIOUS🤣 It's really not that personal, ya know?

The E.U decides French import/export rules & they were already giving us a raw deal. There is nothing they can do except throw a temper tantrum. What are they going to do next,stop you having French wine or cheese,Oz wine is better anyways,and English Cheddar isn't bad either.

France recalls ambassadors to US and Australia after Aukus pactFirst time France has recalled a US ambassador in alliance dating back to American revolution It probably would have a bigger impact if they just banned Joe Hockey and Alexander Downer. I'm not sure if the other parties in this stupid show care at all. Lol

Australia has the right to buy good and excellent merchandise Australia is not in West or North Africa to buy France's shit من حق استراليا شراء بضاعة جيدة والممتازة استراليا ليست في غرب او شمال افريقيا لتشتري الخرذة الرديئة الفرنسية USA_australia 🇦🇺 will last the drastically shortened life of the nation this means total dependence on USA for air & sea defence just like with the UK before ww2 those that remember history are doomed to watch the rest repeat it auspol AUKUS USUKA WW3 LNPfail AustraliaHasFallen

Pas de mauvais sentiments France. Vos sous-marins sont vieux et obsolètes. 🤌🏻 France will sulk for a while, then they’ll be back. First hit someone on face w/ full force, damage it fully, next offer apologies. Who taught this dirty lesson How bout those cheese eating surrender monkeys just stay thankful for being bailed out twice by 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇦🇺

And long may we remember The Rainbow Warrior. France to a TEE. As if they have EVER assisted in the IndoPacific. GET REAL, MACRON. French got caught trying to sell the Aussies yesterdays submarine tech and NOW they throw a tantrum because the Ausies told them where to go. While no doubt the French gov is “outraged”about Australia’s submarine decision,they seem to be very quiet (still) in acknowledging Australia’s outrage at the south pacific nuclear testing program they conducted. And the bombing the Rainbow Warrior in New Zealand. reflection?

How it all started:morrison and co planning to make a masterstroke move against China How it ended:morrison have driven a wedge between aus and eu, and exposed australia as untrustworthy partner, with the added bonus of alienating indonesia, Imagine the laughter in Beijing 😂

Biden angers France, EU with new Australia, UK initiativePresident Joe Biden’s decision to form a strategic Indo-Pacific alliance with Australia and Britain has angered France and the European Union with a go-it-alone move they see as a return to the Trump era This is why, the EU needs to federalise. The world is changing. So Russia China Middle East France Europe not so keen on Biden run US (not looking Good Joe) Glaube ich kaum ,EU und Frankreich sind selbstbewusst genug um sich nicht zu ärgern..ganz im Gegenteil freuen sich für USA!

The shittiest bit is that oz us uk didn’t let the french know about it! Instead, they lied, and did they own deals behind France’s back! Now France is gonna side with China and Russia, the EU will follow suit. The shitty 3s will never match an EU, Russia and Chinese coalition 💪 I remember a time when Pakistan had paid for a nuclear reprocessing facility and the French took the money and then later changed their mind and cancelled the deal. Pakistan never recalled their ambassador to France and took it like real men. This is how we felt France.

It is all about money. France was trying to sale Australia their submarines. Perhaps Australia is a bit miffed that the EU (including France) hijacked their vaccines. Maybe they don’t trust them anymore. 🤷‍♀️ LeFlounce France making inept decisions as in WWII Boo hoo france builds crappy diesel subs. Makes sense to me as from a modernization standpoint. Id want nuclear subs too. Its not like your getting 100 nuke subs. 5 even 4 is enough along side a pacific u.s. fleet. Although i would have asked australia for a base to lease

Australia is only a nation of 25 Million people Yet both France & US are fighting over who milks us for 8 nuke subs which wont be built for 10 yrs $90 Billion Global Military Mafia Tax This is money laundering Why have I got this unpleasant feeling that Johnson and Rees-Mogg are gleeful about this. So will the French! This hissy fit, just draws attention to their incompetence on the world stage.

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So hat to hear about the rift. In May the media outlets bagged the ongoing issues with the French deal and how poorly the French contractor was communicating with us. Now it's all our fault. Would someone like to get their story straight. Which is it? That french sub deal was going pair shaped anyway, with massive cost overruns before it even started building anything...

Let us not conflate recalling ambassadors with recalling ambassadors “for consultations“. The contractor couldn't fulfill its obligations. Secondly who spits the dummy like that when their contractor failed all milestones? Petulant and immature. Childish French throwing their toys out of the their pram ... sad to see a country act with such immaturity

France has gone off the deep end - recalling their ambassadors from Australia AND the US over this?!! Next year by by Macron - hopefully they will get a saner President Aukus ruckus This Aussie style of diplomacy is my favorite thus far! 😄

France recalls ambassadors to US and Australia after Aukus pactFirst time France has recalled a US ambassador in alliance dating back to American revolution It probably would have a bigger impact if they just banned Joe Hockey and Alexander Downer. I'm not sure if the other parties in this stupid show care at all. Lol

The wind has changed since 2016 'According to the contract, the first boat was to commence sea trials in early 2016, with delivery occurring in late 2016/early 2017. This was to be followed by entry into service in late 2017' How do you say I speak French in Chinese?...

Australia: France's recall of ambassador over subs regretfulAustralia is noting with regret France ’s recall of its ambassador over the surprise cancellation of a submarine contract in favor of a U.S. deal The petulance of macron never surprises. At least it gives him time to construct his eu toy army, that europhiles said was a lie.

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