'Anti-Greta' teen activist to speak at biggest US conservatives conference

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'Anti-Greta' teen activist to speak at biggest US conservatives conference

Cpac, Greta Thunberg

2/26/2020

'Anti-Greta' teen activist to speak at biggest US conservatives conference

Naomi Seibt, who tells YouTube followers that Thunberg and other climate activists are whipping up hysteria, to speak at CPAC

A German teenager dubbed the “anti-Greta” – climate sceptics’ answer to the schoolgirl activist Greta Thunberg – is set to address the biggest annual gathering of US grassroots conservatives. Naomi Seibt, 19, who styles herself as a “climate sceptic” or “climate realist”, will this week address the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) near Washington, joining speakers including Donald Trump and Vice-President Mike Pence. Seibt is in the pay of the Heartland Institute, a thinktank closely allied with the White House that denies established science showing humans are heating the planet with dangerous consequences. CPAC will be the biggest stage yet for Seibt, a so-called “YouTube influencer” who tells her followers Thunberg and other activists are whipping up unnecessary hysteria by exaggerating the climate crisis. “Climate change alarmism at its very core is a despicably anti-human ideology,” she has said. The teenager, from Münster in western Germany, claims she is “without an agenda, without an ideology”. But she was pushed into the limelight by leading figures on the German far right and her mother, a lawyer, has represented politicians from the Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party in court. Seibt had her first essay published by the “anti-Islamisation” blog Philosophia Perennis and was championed by Martin Sellner, leader of the Austrian Identitarian Movement, who has been denied entry to the UK and US because of his political activism. A Facebook post by the AfD youth wing names Seibt as a member and she spoke at a recent AfD event, though she has denied membership of the party. In May 2019 she posted her first video on YouTube, reading out verses submitted for a poetry slam competition organised by the AfD. The impact of the clip and its follow-ups put her on the radar of the Heartland Institute, which is based in Chicago. It has lobbied on behalf of the tobacco and coal industries but recently concentrated its efforts on challenging the scientific consensus on climate change. Last December, as Thunberg addressed the United Nations’ Cop25 global warming summit in Madrid, Seibt gave the keynote speech at a rival conference organised by the Heartland Institute a few miles away. In a sting operation carried out for German broadcaster ZDF and investigative outlet Correctiv, the Heartland Institute strategist James Taylor told journalists posing as potential donors his thinktank had signed up Seibt to record climate change sceptic videos for young people. Seibt has admitted that she receives “an average monthly wage” from the institute. According to official figures, the average net monthly income in Germany is just under €1,900 (£1,590, $2,066). The Heartland website features a low-budget video introducing Seibt, who speaks to the camera from what appears to be a home. “I’ve got very good news for you,” she says. “The world is not ending because of climate change. In fact, 12 years from now we will still be around, casually taking photos on our iPhone 18s “We are currently being force-fed a very dystopian agenda of climate alarmism that tells us that we as humans are destroying the planet. And that the young people, especially, have no future – that the animals are dying, that we are ruining nature.” In another film, Naomi Seibt vs Greta Thunberg: Whom Should We Trust?, Seibt says: “Science is entirely based on intellectual humility and it is important that we keep questioning the narrative that is out there instead of promoting it, and these days climate change science really isn’t science at all.” Seibt has also uploaded a video with the title Message to the Media – HOW DARE YOU – an obvious reference to a speech by Thunberg at the UN in which she rebuked world leaders: “We are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you can talk about is money, and fairytales of eternal economic growth. How dare you!” Thunberg began her activism at 15 by missing school and camping outside the Swedish parliament. She has since met the pope, addressed members of Congress in Washington and heads of state at the UN and helped inspire 4 million people to join a global climate strike. Last year she became the youngest Time magazine Person of the Year, much to Trump’s chagrin. The Washington Post observed: “If imitation is the highest form of flattery, Heartland’s tactics amount to an acknowledgment that Greta has touched a nerve, especially among teens and young adults.” Since Trump’s election, CPAC has paraded hard-right figures such as the former White House officials Steve Bannon and Sebastian Gorka as well as numerous climate sceptics. In his speech there last year, the president mocked the Green New Deal, proposals championed by Democrats including Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. “No planes,” the president said. “No energy. When the wind stops blowing, that’s the end of your electric. ‘Let’s hurry up. Darling, darling, is the wind blowing today? I’d like to watch television, darling.’” Connor Gibson, a researcher for Greenpeace USA, said: “Climate science is understood by a majority of Americans, liberal and conservative alike. Unfortunately, you won’t meet any of those people, or any climate scientists, at an event like CPAC. “The Heartland Institute is funnelling anonymous money from the US to climate denial in other countries. It relies on the media to advance false equivalence strategies to attempt to normalise fringe beliefs. Climate denial is not a victimless crime, and it’s time for the perpetrators to be held accountable.” Topics Read more: The Guardian

Stop ✋ fuelling ✋ the ✋ culture ✋ war ✋ Don’t call her anti-greta Well done Good irony neither of them are experts in anything, why the airtime? meanwhile actual experts struggle for a platform. What will she say? We like the destruction of our planet. We think this is all a hoax. We hope the oil and coal industries get every last btu of energy out of the ground.

Every statement she says lacks of context. And of course she is well paid for promoting a new version of an Apple phone. A very low quality marketing strategy for my taste. 🤔 What a fake! TV debate?! Verbal boxing?! the_bounds what the Did they thank you for the free publicity? She makes Greta not autistic.

Teenage climate change denier hailed as 'anti-Greta' by far-right groupsNaomi Seibt, the 'anti-Greta', has blasted climate change as ‘hot air’ as well as a ‘despicably anti-human ideology’

Is that going permanent? Anti-Greta? This teen just lost her individuality and name. STOP GIVING PEOPLE A PLATFORM WHO ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY THE EVIDENCE OF PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED EXPERTS! How very Aryan she seems. Republicans now getting children to lie for them now. Trump not enough. I am not on Greta side. School s fun. But can’t support Climate sceptics. Humanity’s major choice towards industry and modernization has consumed massive fuel, exhausting nature, too.

This is the Captain Pollution episode of Captain Planet. 😂🤦🏻‍♂️😂🤦🏻‍♂️🤮😂 Bjorn Lomborg, the original 'SkepticalEnvironmentalist', was NOT a 'ClimateDenier', either, but someone who argued for a pragmatic responce to replace the emotive panic. It was a sensible concept. Oh No, not another one, aren't we suffering enough with The 'Greta'. They are all jumping on the bandwagon now.

This is the dumbest shit and so it begins.... Post truth Princess.

Leaked reports show Mo Farah changed account to US anti-doping investigatorsPanorama has reported that Mo Farah repeatedly denied having an L-carnitine injection before telling investigators he had after speaking to a UKA official Strip him of his knighthood? Less Farah pls Yet more anti-LFC propaganda from the London press.

Let's move the focus on their age rather than the content they deliver...i see what the conservatives are doing. They really care about the planet apparently. Why should anyone with connections to the noafd, the hearthland Institute and NeoNazi Martin Sellner described as conservative ? The correct description is Hitler Youth!

Hitler Youth Is this 'anything you can do I can do better'? Average age for theatrics is diving. Thank god she hasn’t got those Nazi pigtails like Greta. 'Everything is gonna burn, we'll all take turns, I'll get mine too' That'll sort out climate change. What's wrong with these people? Do they actively want us all to die?

Oh oh wait i know the answer to this one, 'shes been brainwashed by the parents!!!!!!!'

Greta Thunberg's mother reveals how activist 'stopped eating' aged 11Malena Ernman has told of her daughter's struggle with autism and an eating disorder in a new book written by the Thunberg family. I had a runny shit and knew I needed bran flakes... sowhat Gtfo

I find this whole issue ridiculous, both of these people are saying nothing new, yet somehow have a media platform. Their lack of experience in respective fields they can both be discredited and round and round we go. Nothing changes. Promoted by the German far right..... yup way to promote her . How cute ... The mirror universe version of Greta.

She looks to be about fourteen. Silly girl. She’s barely lived. white ppl got time to waste If you weren’t sure the tRUmp GOP could sink any lower, than harassing a child, by manipulating another child. ScienceDenier Christ No one is stopping liberal religious fanatics from living like the Amish -- liberals aren't allowed to impose their religious fanaticism on non-liberal fanatic citizens.

Doctors diagnosed Greta Thunberg with high-functioning autism, which Ernman describes as Asperger's syndrome, and obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD). It needs to be treated, and it teaches the whole planet. let's see if she can give her speech without looking at a paper and without a fake accent

Malena Ernman on daughter Greta Thunberg: ‘She was slowly disappearing into some kind of darkness’A new book by Greta Thunberg ’s mother reveals the reality of family life during her daughter’s transformation from bullied teenager to climate icon And Now she thinks she's a Saint? Was? Give this kid her childhood back and send her to school.

Again just pushing and promoting the lie. You don’t have to print nonsense you know. When will the Guildian scrutinise Thunberg's fake background story & her funding? How did she strike from a school that had no compulsory attendance? FridaysForFrauds Stop. Giving. Her. A. Platform. Just opinion no science to back up any of what she claims. A stooge for international capital.

Both these kids should go to university And where did she suddenly appear from? Controlled opposition for the Anti-Thesis? Influencer = wants to earn money without actually working, benefiting from the fact that most people are unable to think just by using their own brains. The most useless type of human this globe can carry...

IDC about Greta or who’s against Her just live your life 😌😌 Waduh...jadi begini...

Greta Thunberg and Malala Yousafzai meet at Oxford UniversitySwedish climate activist visits Yousafzai’s college while in UK for Bristol youth protest Overrated-ness galore! One who risked her life to go to school meets a serial truant who thinks she knows more than hard working people with educations. Celebrated by the left of course. An actual hero and a leftist puppet who screeches “how dare you” while advocating that we destroy the world economy. Great

Greta is great but this child is foolish why give her the column space? She had 5,000 twitter followers before this? She'll be verified with 100k within a week now. Meanwhile GretaThunberg and another fantastic young person Malala keep up with their great work. ✌🌎🌱 You’re amplifying this stooge - why?

Anti-Greta means anti of the world. We don't have to listen to some brainwashed/mentally deficient teen. Bolt told me so. “Climate change alarmism at its very core is a despicably anti-human ideology,” What does this even mean? Climate change has got the guardian so morally bankrupt they are now writing hit pieces on 19 year old girls Does it bother you that many of the claims you framed negativity in this article happen to be true for Greta as well? This is sickening.

I think a certain someone would like to have a word:

Greta Thunberg meets Malala at universityThe campaigners posed for a photo together at Lady Margaret Hall at the University of Oxford. Wearing my nans coat This is true Girl Power.👌💜🤘 New movie?

Nice clickbait Let me guess who her sponsors are🤔🤔🤔 I bet she thinks the earth is flat too Under contract by Donald Trump, I'm sure paid for by? For every informed and intelligent person, there are always a couple of million morons. Guardian pls stop giving anti-climate and the far right this platform their misinformation does not deserve

Wow, an Ivanka Trump look-alike wannabe playing the marionette regurgitating Republican rhetoric. What else is new? Not news, this is. Just sad commentary on American conservatism, that no longer conserve, but exploit, both nature and people. Un-natural and un-American. Bet her parents are Trump supporters.

It had to come a girl starts a conversation on the climate on her own the right plough money into a teenager to debunk but the evidence grows and we ignore it at our peril

This one is most definitely used, or is it the opposite or both? Neither? Nah. There can only be one winner As usual the MEDIA continues to publish lies about people who are not following the GOLDEN CHILD from Sweden with her Climate Change Causes. Seriously, the MEDIA and the PRESS have lowered themselves by focusing on 'Anti-Greta' Semitism. Journalist's are GUTLESS WONDERS. Geoff.

Does this mean climate change deniers are no longer going to tout the 'child abuse' narrative? These conservatives seem to have the same mindset as the people who heckled Noah while he built his arc biblical mistake climatechangeisreal educatethemasses Possibly the saddest thing yet. Anti Greta is a terrible name for a child. They could've gone with something more mainstream like Anti Christ or Anti Matter. Shame on her parents. 😆

When your claim to fame is being 'anti' someone famous ... you're either desperate or painfully ignorant ClimateEmergency GretaThunberg Dumbo Good. The sooner rich conservatives leave themselves and their families unprepared, the better.

Oh Jesus Christ Must be one who failed biology!!!!! Tasty bit of Epstein... 'Cause I would always believe a teen anger over the top scientists in the world Stop using children for whatsoever reason! Disgusting !!! She doesn't stand a chance... conservatives be desperate. 🤡 Oh brother! We don’t know her name, only “anti-Greta” means GretaThunberg is the OG people only be comparing. What’s this girls name? Who cares. She ain’t got nothing on Greta.

I believe Greta. What the fuck?

How can you be 'anti' a person that you have never met even? If she is against what Greta campaigns for ok that is a stance. Of course the good thing is that greta will know they hear her and what she stands for. Go GretaThunberg ! That's a robot. This commoditization of children as tools for ideological and political purposes is gross. Greta shouldn’t have been speaking at Davos and the UN and this child shouldn’t be out there either. Yuck.

The brain-dead being lectured to by the brainwashed Skipping school for all the wrong reasons The organisation shes working for (The Heartland Institute) also says tobacco smoking DOES NOT cause lung cancer. Its also funded by ExxonMobil (oil) and Philip Morris (fags). Would you consider not using that extremely stupid self-description? What is the opposite of „it’s not about me, it’s about the science“? „Look at me, I am clueless?“

Kid vs Kid Brilliant 😅 About time sometime pushed Greta off her pedal stool TwoSidesToEveryStory NoMonopoly FairAndSquare MoralDilemmas NotAlwaysBlackAndWhite Stop giving her oxygen..

When the inevitable happens her perfect world cannot be saved unfortunately and her generation cannot do anything to stop it. Such a naive child. amerObok bahan buat besok ngopi. What an idiot 🙈 The Britney and Christina of the 2020s Same message for all involved at the gathering. They scream into each others ears with confidence.

You mean ignorance barbie? Here’s the problem: by shouting loudly you give the opposite side a gift. Make no mistake: the gift to climate change deniers is Greta. While I disagree with the “Anti Greta” she sounds reasonable and balanced. That’s a problem the so called “progressive left” created. So Greta quotes legions of scientists and a UN report, what is this person going to bring as evidence?

realDonaldTrump Trump youth.

She’s making an early play for her 15 minutes. Well, when you define yourself as 'anti' something/someone, you've already admitting defeat, on the heels of unoriginality. BeForSomething Her 21 videos are mostly in German, 1 about climate change as far as I know. Is this even a self made activist, or just someone of an age who supports the agenda of the rich right, now used as a pawn?

This is as stupid as coming out with ‘Webster’ after Diff’rent Strokes proved to be a popular TV show. This is what happens. You've normalized the idea of taking the views of angry, underqualified teenage girls way too seriously and now the deniers have found theirs. Congratulations! If they vote for Trump they’ll love her. Who needs truth in his reality? She’ll make a fortune, probably knowing she’s lying as she’s doing it.

Politics at its most childish and ridiculous. She’s the KARR to Greta’s KITT LOL of course the climate change deniers would need to drag in a teenager to vilify GretaThunberg because otherwise grown up men would be called off for ‘bullying a teen’. What a strategic move. NEXT The headline should read 'attention seeking teenager jealous of attention given to other teenager'

Don't give these people a platform! It's just propaganda for the fossil fuel industry Anything for clout Child abuse by NeoNazis planted by the heartland trash. now all the fools will ofc be ok with someone clearly staged by big corporate money Does she did a research to support her affirmation? Are we sure she’s not Russian? or is that too obv.

That is the stupidest thing I've heard in a while! 🤣 How desperate are they? How scared are they of people waking up and realising their wrongdoings? Can’t wait to see Trump fawn all over her. Seems very dubious to me Why is the President going to a science denial convention anyway? Awe a little female version of Alex Jones

Presumably you now believe teenagers are not qualified to discuss climate change Of course she does' She’s probably going to say let the world burn out so the poor little sods can suffer when they grow up 🚨’conservatives’🚨 AndreaGil55555 They paid her and her parents! Too obvious 🥴 Imagine building your reputation on trying to take someone else's down.

AbdBkh So young and so stupid. Heartbreaking and mindblowing. She looks very Nazi. Oh leave her be - let’s hear what s̶h̶e̶ The Heartland Institute / ExxonMobil has to say for h̶e̶r̶s̶e̶l̶f̶ themselves.

don't give her a platform! Excellent. We need a balanced debate. May the best ideas win. A 19-year old YouTube influencer. I'm hoping the only audience she could command would be too young to be able to act on any rubbish she could produce. If climate change wasn't happening but we were cautious, great. If it is real and we follow their advice, game over.

I guess the responsible people were tired of losing the public relations battle with a teenager and had to get one of their own to provide cover for wrecking the planet Grifters gonna grift Holy shit! Greta won’t like this. She looks like a sheep Ppl will scare u & climate is universal, if ur under 40 ur parents were scared in their youth as r our children today.

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I thought conservatives were against using children to push political agendas. She has a sterling future at Fox News Missing a chromosome. Las corporaciones son geniales. Para contener el fenómeno Greta, se compraron su propia Greta que apoya el uso de combustibles fósiles y agrotóxicos. Parecen un episodio de Los Simpson. Los amo.

Why are you giving oxygen to this particular lump of carbon? George Soros Presents: In the Blue Corner Naomi ( Labeled Far Right by the Far Left ) and in the Green Corner Greta ( Labeled Far Left by the Far Right ) Wonder if it sell more tickets than Fury vs Wilder 🧐 Looks like her eyes are trying to escape her face.

Ok, it’s the AFD - can we please stop giving these Nazis a platform and don’t give them the oxygen of publicity they crave. Yawn God bless Greta ♥️✌️🌍

What kind of candy did they promise to her? A new iPad? That click we all heard was the Doomsday clock adjusting itself. Tell your bosses to 'Get bent'. I too want the planet to die Of course, where else if not in US. Next up, meet the ex gangmember who is advocating for more knives on the streets So reading the comments, the age that Greta can be questioned/countered/mocked/ etc is 19. I suppose she will just be a child until then.

I want to see a debate. GretaThunberg

Fox News has found its newest contributor. I doubt DUMPY TRUMPY WILL BE THERE Fascist teenager to speak at fascism conference* Why do conservatives hate science? Stop giving a platform to people like this Lol Why does there have to be an Anti anything? That sounds like fighting talk, should we be promoting a ‘be nice’ culture?

Matter and antimatter. It is curious how balanced this universe is. If you construct your entire identity around being in opposition to somebody else, then that is both cynical & negative. Also looking to ride Greta’s tailwinds

😂😂😂 Anti-greta? Do you mean climate change denier? Children should stay out of global politics. Mini Ivanka She’s a puppet, like trump. She’s driven by fear and greed. Why is this girl getting any airtime anywhere outside loony bin conservative circles...just ignore her! Yet another puppet Bless her heart

Stop platforming the hard right.

Following Roger Sterling’s advice, “pick an eye & stick with it”! Why give a voice to this obviously fame-hungry individual who has nothing relevant to say? Quit denying the truth kids. 'CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another. . . . Every scientist knows this, but it doesn't pay to say so.” Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan

They're all political puppets. 'is pretty close to believing in magic. Instead you are told that it is believing in 'science.' Such a claim should be a tip-off that something is amiss. After all, science is a mode of inquiry rather than a belief system.” Alfred P. Sloane, MIT 'CO2, it should be noted, is hardly poisonous. On the contrary, it is essential for life on our planet and levels as high as 5000 ppm are considered safe on our submarines and on the space station,” Richard Lindzen, MIT Climate Scientist

So refreshing to see a political party encourage young people to be willfully ignorant to benefit the party's efforts to make sure the rich white guys get richer. At the expense of a livable environment for our children and grandchildren. 2004: Britain to have Siberian climate by 2020 She's a walking press release from the fossil fuel industry, you needn't pay her any mind

Ersatz.

And the wimp media is no help. Why people should not waste their time on it. Village of the Damned. Oh ffs & F off NAOMI , ANDA A CAGAR , TE SOBRA GUITA Y TE FALTA MOLLERA , DEBERIAS INTERPRETAR LAS SANAS INTENCIONES DE GRETA QUE PIENSA EN LA SALUD DEL PLANETA Y NI EN LOS MISERABLES INTERESES DE LOS CONSERVADORES DE TU PAIS ( DERECHA EXPLICITA)

How brave, 'I'm anti environment!' Like wtf 😂😂😂 soledadobrien crampell NaomiSeibtt KatiePavlich MiaFarrow I am certain that she is brainwashed into advocating burn more fossil fuels, manufacture more plastic. So I guess that she is religious, so she may want to read Revelation 11:18 and realize there are consequences.

How do you claim “not to have an ideology” but get paid by a company to promote their ideology? The apocalypse the untold positive side! The world's gone mad.

Since Greta Thunberg is urging politicians to listen to scientists 'anti-' means againts scientific evidence which would make us laugh if it was not tragic. So, the people who say teens shouldn't be poking their noses into 'adult topics' are now totally cool with it. Of course, they're the same people railed against the debt and who thought Obama golfed too much. Now debt is no longer and issue, and golfing presidents are awesome!

Hopefully she doesn’t get verbally abused and torn apart viciously by Twitter critics like Greta does almost every day. I think kids should stay focused on school and their community, but I applaud her passion and bravery. DominiqueReynie My cat is available for videos. God damn NaomiSeibtt, you’re 19. Get a real job

Not shocked by anything in American politics. 🤮 “the era of dumb””.” God when will these anti climate deniers shut up. Imagine believing these turdballs over the majority of scientists. Using a young girl won't help their case. Just as cringey

Money buys mercenaries of all shapes and ages!....SAD I need to hear it. Well I do not understand right now, how could be a denial speech of so many huge signals? Non news, why are giving that any attention? Trump and Pence speaking at a climate science denial rally with a cheerleader from the German AFD youth wing.

Shame the kid will get the brunt of online abuse, and not the people behind her thinking this was a good idea It's disheartening and tragic when anyone participates in their own oppression. Greta is only a socialist puppet, she doenst like studying. Anti-what?! ...and of course that's a thing Just proves children are manipulative.

It’s like anti-matter.

She is part of the German far right, AfD (Alternative for Germany) party, cough nazis cough. Her mother is a lawyer for the AfD. They got teen, we gotta get a teen. Sigh It's a bit weird...what is this teen going to say/do that climate deniers aren't already doing? Thunberg fighting to change people's minds. Seibt fighting for what exactly?

Who is the virus ? She looks scary. I mean Nazi scary... The left will hound her and her family. That’s what they do.... I knew they would come up with this. Bastards You're not actually obliged to boost this person's profile. ... stirrer afd bdm 🤮 I never want to hear about anti Greta.

Her first essay was championed by someone who is blocked from entering the UK because of their extremists views and was published by a anti-Islam blog. Sure does seem her content is ‘without’ ideology, doesn’t it. Cant see millions coming on to the streets for this young lady. When there is a shortage of Chocolate it will hit home climate change is real.

I'm looking forward to a climate change face off between these two. ...Live on TV. She’s FOR destroying the earth to benefit a few greedy rich people? Well, that explains a lot... Imitation being the sincerest form of flattery. I knew the fossil fuel industry would do this. LOL It's so predictable. Why would you platform someone who doesn't believe in science and promotes hate?

A dope speaking to dopes. Not a lot more to be said except that they are being played by spivs.

STOOGE Bound to happen...science apparently says a man can become a women...so climate deniers can challenge science. 'Naomi Seibt, who correctly tells YouTube followers that Thunberg and other climate activists are whipping up hysteria' I wonder is she has ever breathed before. How much did she get for it?

who asked for this Took you guys long enough to think of a counter attack on someone that is a child and simply wants to do good in the world. Just wow! How low can they go? Wonder how they manufactured this . Anti-Greta?!? NO, she is anti human life on Planet Earth !!

Grauniad are you having a breakdown? What is this off-brand Fox News nonsense? Greta’s reaction !! Je sens qu'elle va être aussi pénible que l'autre... Quelle misère... Pathetic attempt Fighting retardation with more retardation, why not at this point I wonder if, due to her age, she will be abused and derided as brainwashed and manipulated by the deniers.

She’s shallower than Greta. Greta doesn’t wear make up or care about her appearance because she doesn’t need to rely on her looks to win arguments I would be happy to never to hear “Greta” or “anti-Greta” again. Because a battle of the blondes is going to help the situation just massively.

Oh, they have a barbie Young Palin?

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