Governments around the world are relying on mathematical projections based on available case data to understand how the pandemic could spread, in order to guide decision-making and ensure the right resources are in place to handle the coming surge in cases. Experts say releasing this modelling and other data are critical to building trust with citizens and helps governments get buy-in for the unprecedented and restrictive policies.
“It’s going to be a real sobering discussion," Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Thursday. “It’s going to be stark.” The federal NDP is calling for the immediate release of those models. “We can’t fight this virus blindly,” B.C. MP Don Davies said. Across all levels of government, former federal health minister Jane Philpott is calling for “radical transparency.”
The information shared publicly needs to go beyond modelling to include up-to-date numbers on new cases, hospitalizations and deaths, as well as transparency in the factors that go into government decisions, Prof. Hoffman at York said.What’s important is “promoting trust and ensuring there’s a broad range of information" available, he said. Prof. Hoffman added the federal government has been ahead of some of the provinces in this goal.
Please stop trying to make such a big deal out of this. The federal government needs the provincial data, and things are constantly changing, which means that the available data is also changing.
No they dont, you the propaganda media do.
So ridiculous. Give credit where credit is due. Canada and it’s leadership is the envy of countries around the world. Let’s focus on the positive. You are a Big disappointment. Write about why these numbers won’t help anything. Ford gave numbers-how did that help?
Canadians receive daily briefings. Are you learning impaired? cdnmedia cdnpoli COVIDIDIOTS
Globe media rides again, your almost as comical as the various post media publications, about as accurate too.
Nonsense.
radical transparency is not the same thing as radical soothsaying - you are asking for soothsaying. Please try to understand the difference.
ABSOLTE GARBAGE, Globe and Mail -- Fascist Propaganda Rag.
FU, Globe and Mail
This is not my experience.
I don’t feel in the dark? He speaks to us daily. We know the case numbers, we know to stay home, we know how to get financial aid. What I don’t know is why people aren’t staying home, but that’s not Ottawa’s job, they are trying to support peeps. Peeps just gotta StayHome
We get daily briefings. Are you asleep?
Ottawa doesn’t KNOW. Trudeau & Hadju said this last Wednesday. The pandemic & its’ trajectory is still a question mark, especially when testing levels make it difficult to know how many people actually have it. There are multiple changing scenarios. None definitive. Truth is hard
No the PM doesn't. Your rag is just mad that the CPC is dropping in the polls.
The impact? You actually have to be told? You did bring Ezra Levant on board..why not just take the easy route, & go with one of his conspiracies 😉
Globe & Mail continues with their ongoing attempts to keep Canadians misinformed. Many who are f-kg fed up with their support of RW Populist Cut-Healthcare-Conservative Policies while in the midst of a pandemic are cancelling their subscriptions. COVIDIOTS
Shut it! This is not the time for crappy rag wipe.
you can not release figures U do not have when all 13 jurisdictions submit their numbers then perhaps But until then just make stuff up like U usually do
Trudeau speaks every day. Maybe you should listen.
Globe and mail has become a joke. More traders saying goodbye. I’m no Trudeau fan but seriously you guys are grasping for headlines. Get some real reporters please.
You’re supposed to be the New York Times of Canadian journalism. Oh wait, you are - my how the mighty have fallen. Sickening, really.
Would your rather they made it up?
Hey Globe and Mail. My suggestion take a chill pill. You will be updated when the time is right. Full Stop!
Shut up with this. Fuck.
Did the CPC_HQ pay for this article?
Should have known who wrote this article, disingenuous and misleading, typical Globe and Mail. Glad I cancelled my subscription.
Keeping us in the dark? What about those daily briefings? Do you not have cable tv in your area? Are you out to lunch at that time, or maybe all the time? Stop with your ridiculous headlines!!!!
The National Globe & Mail Post, are you guys 6 ft apart?
Then people must be dumb if you think your ‘headline’ is true. Maybe reflect on you is being small minded in the reporting
Never forget that the Grope & Flail endorsed Harper. Continuously. They have zero credibility in the politics department. Endlessly and unfailingly biased (and boringly) partisan for CPC_HQ cdnmedia cdnpoli
Why did you pop up in my twitter feed? I certainly don’t look for you! Shitty journalism most days
No. It. Doesn’t.
The GlobeAndMail has sunk to the likes of TMZ. Nothing more than a rag news paper.
Only use for this publication is bottom of the bird cage or a replacement when toilet paper is scarce.
The Garbage and Maul strikes again. Yawn.
This kind of headline is why a bunch of us cancelled our subscriptions that we had for years. Used to depend on it at work.
You mean in the dark about projections (guesses), which change depending on MANY factors. Problem with projections, is they need to be wrapped in context. Media/Social Media prefer snippets and context is easily lost.
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you should be ashamed of yourselves. Even school children understand why we need to stay at home. Potential impact = death of human beings. Numbers don’t matter. StayHomeCanada
The Globe and Mail continues to keep it's readers in the dark about STARK REALITY.
I appreciate the fact that they're not speculating; I agree with their assessment that many things should be taken care of provincially, not federally, and I understand and appreciate that the federal government will help where they can. Stop fear-mongering, it's not helpful.
Not at all. We all know the potential impact is devastating.
Headline: Glode and Mail continue to sow divisions to fulfill the political agenda of their corporate and political masters even in a time of great crises!
I remember the days when the globe was a reputable paper. Watching the decline is just sad and disappointing.
epicmediafail from the Glob and Meh.
The Globe and Mail pushes a conspiracy that the government is intentionally hiding data from us
Pushing for a 5G conspiracy further?
Meanwhile, public health cuts in ON and AB get a passing glance from this Thomson-owned newspaper.
The globe and mail can now be found next to the national enquirer at your favorite supermarket check out
Well let's see... letting in tons of planes ...then just letting them leave with out being screened.. so I say were screwed with a side of oh shit
« The federal government is lagging some provinces ... » Quebec & Ontario are leading this crisis. We need a more convincing leadership from JustinTrudeau with POTUS declaring war to us N95masks aren’t we allies? 🤦🏻♂️
What a pathetic headline. I've been watching the daily briefings and Trudeau has been absolutely fantastic by every measure. What a contrast to the drivel from leaders in several other countries. You just lost a follower. Ciao
This is a 💩 article. People know the potential impact. All of this asking for projections is silly - there are too many variable. Just keep reminding people to stay home.
Pure garbage article.
Readers of your newspaper must be particularly dense if they don’t know the impact of this disease and the importance of following our PMs daily recommendations. We don’t need numbers that politicians can spin to make themselves look competent.
No. They don't.
Total B.S. Canadians are far from 'totally in the dark'. Get serious.
Get a grip . Glad I didn’t renew my subscription.
Do u know Globe and mail ... stop acting like Fox news
That headline tells me you think your readers really are stupid. I can look at the other countries and give a pretty good guess as to what will happen, both with and without interventions.
They’re doing just fine. Rumour has it that the situation is dynamic. Maybe? Gathering proper information from those who work in departments before lumping it all together. Makes good sense.
the globeandmail is truly garbage
You have become a true scandal sheet and lost all journalistic integrity
What planet is the globe and mail on. Certainly not planet earth.
The globe has become the new Toronto Sun ....
Keep up the fear mongering.
No they don’t...it’s bad...really bad. But only after it is done will we know the exact time course, numbers, and when it will end. For now, help tell your readers to stay home and quit the ridiculous headlines.
What do you want, It’s bad really friggin bad.
That’s because THEY ARE IN THE DARK THEMSELVES..they never even CLOSED BORDERS AND FLIGHTS FROM HOTSPOTS until a FEW DAYS AGO..they said it was LOW RISK and never got PREPARED EVEN GIVING AWAY VALUABLE PPE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO..this level of INCOMPETENCE is CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!
You are a disgrace, Globe.
Canada is hiding a series of failures in the national pandemic response. WhereAreTheTests WhereAreTheVentilators WhereAreTheMasks Where are our leaders?
im really skeptical about the accuracy of a canada wide projection... every jurisdiction is so different
There's no good outcome from releasing info that's either highly technical, or dependent on highly technical data. In the absence of comprehension lies the foundation of panic.
Do you think the PM has a time machine that gives him info that he is keeping to himself? He depends on the advice of scientists, health and economic professionals and has not reason not to provide information that help to save peoples lives. You must have a high CON demographic.
We all know the potential impact. We don’t need it spelled out and to keep insisting is irresponsible.
The graphs are very technical and not easily understood. The data changes hourly. Why would they help? Stop harangueing the PM with these ridiculous questions.
The dark is normal when new and uncertain happens every day. Make your own guess if it helps you feel better. I have no complaints with the PM's leadership through this.
GTFOOH. Go broke already.
Canada's version of The National Inquirer is at it again notnewsjustgossip notcredible
Globe and Mail continues to create fear and anxiety to drive their news cycle.
This headline is trash. You are asking for a point in time projection. A day later you could ask for another projection and again a week later. If there isn’t an immediate reply, it’s not the government ‘keeping Canadians in the dark’. There are numbers to crunch. Be better.
People who dont want to hear the numbers will be the ones who scream why didn't you tell us ?
1. Garbage in, garbage out. Been clearly explained why need useable prov data 2. No standard expert-agreed model 3. Useful predictions will have huge range of error 4. Press will scream for better confidence so ranges will widen (100% confidence between 0/100%!) 5 press freakout
PM is still dithering on telling Canadians the truth about what to expect based on the models developed by his scientific staff/advisors. These may have imperfections, including quality of data at the national level. He would be wise to share its results.
The virus is probably more contagious than the routine flu and somewhere between 10 and 50 times as dangerous. People with Covid 19 are contagious even if they show no symptoms. There is no vaccine. Everyone should be able to 'do the math'.
Who writes these headlines? Have you watched any of the discussions? Want the cold, dark facts to sell papers? Hundreds of thousands of Cnad8ans could die. Fortunately, people with half a clue have been prepping to make sure that doesn't happen. No wonder print media is dead.
Because they don’t know......the most inept Govt CANADA has ever seen!
I'm a 'former' subscriber -- this is a classic example of the sensationalism that fuelled my decision to drop you.
The Globe is an organ of Conservative propaganda. What Canadians what to know is how to prevent the spread of COVID-19 and why the Conservatives are trying to block financial aid that Canadians desperately needed now.
Dog whistling, anti-Prime Minister rhetoric from a rag that willingly pays Bobby Fife? Shocked! I’m shocked I tell ya! cdnmedia COVIDCanada MopAndPail
“The key to our success has been absolute transparency with the public.” South Korea's Foreign Minister
is the globe and mail in the funeral business? why on earth does anyone need this?
Keeping us in the dark What part haven’t we been told? Stay away from each other to stop the spread! Wash your hands! Why do you need a hypothetical number? How can anyone possibly know? If you want to project a number.... go ahead!
Here are numbers. Sick: 10K - 37.8M Canadians Deaths: 138 - 10M Canadians PPE: not enough Cost: $50M - $10Trillion Fiscal Recovery: 10wks - 100yrs. Phys. Isolation: 4 wks - 208 wks Happy now? Covid19 UwantNumbers
Oh give me a break. If anyone doesn't know the potential impact of coronavirus by now, releasing numbers that change by the minute isn't going to help that level of ignorance. Look at Italy, Spain, US for the potential impact. The media is like a dog with a bone with this.
You just lost me as a consumer
Garbage publication not even suitable for bird cage floors. Stop spewing this unwarranted trash and try reporting something that matters.
Canadians won’t forget what you were like during this crisis.
I see updates on numbers daily. I don't need a model to tell me to stay in my home.
I've been tracking stats & doing projections for weeks; but with the natural lag in transmission symptoms testing reporting, the lag for various social distancing measures to take effect, the impact of testing travellers & isolation on %'s: It's better to look to Italy/USA.
G&M you trash newspaper - Conrad Black included... stop being negative about our amazing government led by Trudeau.
SPREAD A BETTER MESSAGE❤ The Globe and Mail is working as usual to spread fear. Way to go Losers.
POOR ... Just INCAPABLE of journalistic impartiality... Such a RAG ! .
Covid called she said this will kill 8963 Canadians and will end on September 23 rd 2021. There you have your number . Happy?
One more reason I will NEVER read or subscribe to your “publication”! You appear insistent upon fomenting fear and paranoia all to sell a few more papers. Shame on you!
The Glob and Mess, on the same level as the National Inquirer. Not a paper of record anymore.
Stop it. Trying to sew discord. Stop it.
Since it's the provinces that collect and pass on the info and some of them have only passed some on and the fact they do not all use same models perhaps you should go after them to get on same page also even the researchers around the world can agree on best model ,
Reason 123,423 to cancel your subscription. Death of cdnmedia cdnpoli
Terrible article and headline! Shame on you!! I've watched Trudeau give reports every morning and he has given us as much as is humanly possible with the information he has that is *true and accurate*. You really suck.G&M!!
Hey Globe and Mail let me fix this for you: BREAKING NEWS...IT'S BAD NOW!!!! IT WILL GET WORSE UNLESS We StayAtHome practice PhysicalDistancingSocialConnecting WashYourHands And Thank your Essential workers. You can have that for free
you just lost any journalistic credibility
Should have çould have would have, may have, might. All useless speculation. News media needs to stick to facts not idle possibilities. You know: who what where why and how! Of course would be hard to fill 24/7 news with just the facts. Lots of talking heads jobless.
What would you have them say?!? And you would shit on the government regardless of the answer. Try doing 'journalism' for a change instead of spreading fear and disinformation.
Yes let’s stir up divisive mistrust and hate instead of pulling together.
I can tell you. I listen to the epidemiologists. What do you need to know?
You guys are a partisan joke Ahahaha
Amateurs. Here's what real journalism looks like.
Your ownership is showing.
The govt has continuously warned us... we're adults...we see what's happening in the rest of the world....we know how bad it can get... can you try REAL reporting instead of this granny gossip crap? Please!!
Please CPC_HQ get your act together & give us a true leader like fordnation so we can get JustinTrudeau finally out so he can’t hurt us again
Per two sources, Anthony Fauci said there are too many variables at play in the pandemic to make the models reliable: “I’ve looked at all the models. I’ve spent a lot of time on the models. They don’t tell you anything
When the data is in we will know. Canadians are losing reliable newspapers, how sad that is becoming one of them.
What you want special prediction for Canada? Are you not watching the global numbers and the countries affected. This is insane putting onus on PM. Stop this blame game focus on together how you can help the country through powerful messaging. Our PM is way better then some.
There is no such thing as conservative journalism.
Garbage take, trash paper.
This is crap. Do better. We are all in this together. Join us.
The second he does it you’ll hold him to whatever numbers there are... then you’ll say he lied or reacted badly. He’s right not to trust the media to carry his message.
the mop and pail doing its best to undermkne the pm and scare the shitbout of the populace by having the best prognistication of when its over and how many will die. goddamnit...the mi ister of tarot card reading is on the way. shaddap...please.please
Or maybe you guys are desperate to write about something.
Hint: You want an answer now, to say he was wrong later.... That’s Entrapment. Cut it out!
'the globe and mail continues to try and incite panic and mistrust for canadians' the globe and mail is garbage, garbage with a paywall. garbage
Why not ask Bob Fife !!!
Hey This is just bull shit! This is no time for political games. Even though I'm not a huge fan of JT, In all fairness the PM has communicated very well with Canadians.
this is a STUPID and dangerous headline..wtf is wrong with you.
This virus is unpredicable and the jerk who is out and about not following StayHomeCanada isn't going to suddenly stay home when the projections come out. What will happen - anxieties will rise and fear will set. If you want to do something, remind people to StayHomeSaveLives
How does the PM tell the people anything when it changes day to day...its a fluid situation...you know, a person's lungs fill up with fluid and they die...another death skews the results. Don't be stupid. It's depends on us to do the right thing. CURTAIL THE CURVE..
that is all anyone needs to know
Bull shit headline. Be productive.
we already know about that....jeez! do you think we are stupid or something
Is globe and mail okay? What is this trash
wYH Is ThErE nO tImElINe? Smdh
This is a gross take and irresponsible 'gotcha' type 'journalism'. Shame on you. cdnpoli
I suggest the G&M have tea leaves read, a few crystal ball readings done or consult myriad of mediums for a prognosis. The rest of us will take our information as it's available from epidemiologist, docs and other scientist. Exact data is not possible. G&M, google pandemic!
Really! Really!!! In the dark!!! The only people in the dark must be hiding in dark caves without internet. Canadians are going to die - there you are out of the dark
Hey G&M, your Con-Republican is showing.
I have enough stress, I don’t want to know...wth will knowing the numbers change 😡😡😡
What a shitty thing to tweet.
Why would you say this when you know that Ford is going to release all the numbers? Why get people going?
What a sad excuse for journalism
Even if they haven't released all the numbers, you need to be pretty stupid to not figure out the impact at this point.
There is only one question. Would you rather be in the United States or Canada right now?
Hypotheticals are not facts. Stop doing lazy reporting. Well meaning Canadians don't need hypotheticals. Every Canadian is responsible for the impact of coronavirus & if we do our parts as responsible citizens, we'll defeat coronavirus sooner than later. DO BETTER & report facts!
I feel like the people have been willfully misled. This could have been prevented. Why were old age homes fucking locked down? I'm not looking to blame ppl right now but I learned all I needed to know about sars cov2 in january from a guy on yt that specializes in ALIENS!!
I don't feel like I am in the dark, at all. I watch briefings every day, and I have been told what my responsibilities are to assist in this crisis, and I have undertaken them. I don't need to know how many are going to die in order to know there will be deaths.
FYI peeps they changed the headline. Vultures.
No
The government is doing a great job keeping us informed and bringing us together. The Globe and Mail is showing its true colours as a propaganda tool for the Cons.
So if a model is made available, how is to going change? You as media, what will you do differently? Why can't you do it now? This article is just a crap, a trap set to catch the leadership on wrong footing. Stop being a crap media and do something positive for canadian lives.
As Bob Rae calls you the Mop & Pail, I will also refer to you as the Fear and Rag newspaper.
Substandard, barely ethical journalism.
A) The world is in the dark. B) The impact is real no matter the model. C) You suck.
What would satisfy you ? The public display of dead bodies? Look around you, read the effing global situation. It’s gonna be over when it’s over. Just tell people to do their part.
The media has to be careful about what they ask for - might not like the answers and then they will claim the numbers are wrong and misleading. How can anyone come up with a model of something that is this fluid. Stupid media, why don't you exercise some responsibility
you're always there to do your very worst, globe and mail. stop profiteering off fear. it's repulsive.
The only model that matters is the worst case scenario. The rest is just a calculus workout that most people will not be capable of making sense of anyway.
It’s going to be bad very fucking bad, if people don’t stay home. And the heck would anyone know how many people are going to die, who has a direct line to GOD? Oh wait ask the Faaking Pope
I refuse to read an article with such a ridiculous headline. Shame on you, for not helping bring Canadians together, at this time.
Stop trying to sell conflict
Why It’s So Freaking Hard To Make A Good COVID-19 Model | FiveThirtyEight
Really? You guy must not have been reading the news... berealjournalists
Sometimes best to just let people rant. Most on this chain are like the government and don't seem to accept how big the issue is. That is why we do everything late. Will just leave things as is and move on.
Hang your head in shame How f*%king dare you print this crap when lives are at stake. We will not forget that CA’s former paper of record chose to spread fear and ignorance.
Dark wtf I think everyone that has a brain can figure it out... maybe get a reporter that reports on news not bs
I don't want to hear it. Loaded info that may be right or wrong. We know things are bad. Stay home and do your part. This is a no win all around.
We need the truth, so we can plan for the future if there any to come.
Here’s the answer: “The victim count will be somewhere between today’s and everyone - if people don’t act like adults. So stay the f*ck home.” I know you’re jealous of your US cousins, but stop trolling for a shocking headline for your talking heads to endlessly debate.
And how is that going to help? How severe this becomes depends on every canadian, no matter what models say, they're just model, how the curve behaves depends on every canadian. They just need to look around the world. Stop your BS reporting. Do something constructive.
'We must hold hands to defeat this common threat. Only then can the virus defeat itself.'
Have you tried to hire journalists? Clearly hiring ex TMZ staff isn't working.
Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Okay Gob and Spit, don't make me pull over
That's BS. Models depend on the massive variable of human behaviour, and if the numbers change, there will be a world of gotchas! Plus less trust in government
The Mop and Pail keeps pushing the RW agenda of Fear and Division during this pandemic.
Oh FFS
cd_lmh This Liberal ideology is extremely dangerous for Canadians this government is acting against the wishes of its citizens and does not have their best interests in mind.
Dear Globe and Mail. How dare make this worse. You should be ashamed. Those with half a brain know how serious this is. The other half are still out dancing in parks. Why not call them out instead of causing a rift with Trudeau who is doing an outstanding job. JustinTrudeau
How do you think he will come about this future info? The outcome depends on our mitigation of it. I thought you were a solid, dependable source of good journalism. Guess I was wrong.
Keep us in the dark? I don’t think any1 is going to buy this bs headline! At least any1 with intelligence and common sense! How the hell is the govt to know where this is going? Testing is only being done on severe cases! Scientists don’t even know what this virus is going to do!
P/Ts decide 100% which health data they collect, data definitions they use, data timelines, & data they share with the feds. National data must use common data definitions, same collection timeframes, etc. Can’t roll up data that’s not comparable. Garbage in, garbage out. 1/2
Today's Wapo wrote that US model numbers are pulled out of Trump's ass. We Canadians do things differently: we use actual models validated by scientists. Stay the course JustinTrudeau . CPC_HQ COVID19 coronavirus Covid_19 cdnpoli
no, that's not accurate.
All for infotainment? What will you do with this information outside of instilling panic as a result of opinion pieces? I’m supportive of transparency but not at the cost of op-ed’s in place of authorities doing their jobs as we’ve elected them to do.
Rag Rag Rag
Trudeau has placed Canadians under DrTedros and CPHO_Canada dictatorship. Unwittingly (maybe) they SOW hatred in people towards one another. People will start looking at one another and see only 'walking viruses' The mental and emotional health of people and their rights:GONE
Mop & Pail. Heard that from BobRae48 & it’s so on target. Between all 3 levels of govt daily updates + never ending news coverage... I think the message has been conveyed. For weeks now. Those still in the dark, need to take the blindfolds off. COVID19 TogetherApart cdnpoli
This is irresponsible. This moment in history is an opportunity for news organizations to assert their value & relevancy through difficult times. Instead, we get persistent fear-mongering. Shame on you, 👎🏼
Since we're not supposed to touch our faces, I'll let VancityReynolds express the stupidity of your article.
This is politically designed scaremongering. Do you even listen anymore...or just go with your agenda daily?
DerekMacEwen what the fuck is this...... seriously, we all know what the impacts are going to be, it's bad, it's going to take time, it's going to change things ..... stop this... i'm no fan of JT but the media is just looking for a fight
Stop with the clickbait headlines. We’re in a pandemic that is unfolding rapidly. Stirring up unfounded conspiracies is FoxNews behavior.
Statistics with incomplete data is misleading. Gov is modelling with incomplete testing. Margin of error is huge. Sharing would be misleading COVID19Pandemic
You’re scare-mongering. If you follow any major Canadian epidemiologist, they’re all saying the same thing. Models say that the effect of the disease is proportional to how well people self isolate. This determines the R0 and the death rate. That can’t be guessed by magic.
Media wants the PM to give predictions of the Covid19 outcome so they can rip him apart if he’s wrong. Fixed it for you.
Very disappointed with
Your newspaper borders on sedition. Deplorable.
Oh stop it globe and mail‼️Trudeau is doing a great job, God forbid if scheer was in charge, it would be a freakin nightmare right now
Another fine piece of BS from this used toilet paper.
This is a click-bait headline more than an accurate representation of a decent news article. Frankly, better suited to one of the Sun outlets than the G&M. As janephilpott noted, '... there are several challenges with [current] data going into the models....' Info will come.
I thought they were going to get data from provinces then they would share. Today Ontario hears from the premier re Ontario data
Legaleagle26 Modern day journalism 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Desperate, very desperate.
Stop this. This is completely irresponsible. Stop now.
Get lost
Horseshit, click-bait, nonsense, & lies.
The Mop and Pail lol Ps. Youre also talking out your butt. Hes bee talking everyday. Its not hard to see how the virus is affecting countries. And no we dont have enough ventilators. So stay the F inside.
Is it any worse than the certain impact of garbage news like this?
It's weird that the model from mid-January published by and epidemiologist is still fairly accurate.
So...... you people think this kind of divisive reporting is helpful during a pandemic? *Noted*. Is Harper back? or did AndrewScheer misappropriate more taxpayer dollars to pay you for this? You're campaigning for 2023 on behalf of Republi..... er... conservatives.
The Globe and Mail thinks Canadian leadership should refute science and play along with a dangerous Conservative PR game. Ok.
Are u surprised
Since provinces are responsible for gathering the info and not all has been forwarded and even then they are not all using same model to respond without all info would have press complaining about that ,sad that press instead of reporting facts are trying to create a story
Media conservative bought and paid just like Fox News!!
I see conservatives working hard to create problems in can. I see non confidence coming fools!!!
I will continue to follow what the federal government says. I am not listening to this garbage newspaper that tries to attack our PM. He's keeping us informed daily. I don't need numbers that are guesses, I want facts.
What a ridiculous headline. Is the Globe and Mail intent on self-destructing?
The problem is one of numeracy. Most folks won’t understand why they are seeing and will draw incorrect conclusions. There is enough misleading information out there already. You aren’t helping.
Bring Canadians back home now.
Italy is the baseline to follow.
The Globe used to be a reliable source of news and impartial. Now you're just an errand boy for the riht wingers - it's a waste of time reading your crap.
Are you serious or just dense?
Stfu globe.
Why did you make it sound so sinister? Could it be that they don’t precisely know just yet? Can you imagine the harm it would do if incomplete or inaccurate information was released? Jesus, do you WANT to create more fear and panic? It seems you do. Stop, please. Just stop.
Bullshit. The Globe, however, has stopped doing any respectable job at all.
Trash and pail - desperate for stories. Why not just become a tabloid, and report on aliens.
cdnpoli I'm Canadian and awake. What do you want to know Bud ? I don't mind educating ignorant Ameri-Cons .but you keep on trying to undermine Canada by sowing doubt and anxiety during a crisis and I might not stay as generous .
Globe and mail the offical of....
acoyne 'Demonstrate openness and transparency. Panic is less common than most people imagine and doesn’t come from bad news, but from mixed messages or a feeling that people aren’t being told the truth.' CDC Crisis and Emergency Risk Communication Manual
ElevatedMonkey Well Premier Ford won't. So Trudeau once again since the beginning of this will be forced to by Ford to do & say the truth. Atleast Premier Ford treats tax payers with respect.
The entire world is in the dark, it’s an UNKNOWN virus.
Apparently it's tough going for newspapers with many closing their doors, could you please silently close yours
Oh FFS, WTF is wrong with you? Scientist don't even know and are guessing. Look south of us, and maybe revel in the fact that Canada is doing better.
Wet Rag trying it’s best to prop up conservative bullshit. Fixed it for you
You call this journalism, most everyone else calls it fearmongering. Shame.
It was a sunny day with 13 C in GTA, and I saw people roaming around and even mingling ... terrible days ahead
Because his new persona is Professor Trelawney....please.
acoyne What are we in the dark about? Lots of people are going to get sick (30%-70% of Canadians) and many will die. A model presented today can't predict the future and so we hurtle onward into uncertainty.
Chantel_Bx0 He wearing blackface again?
We know the impacts... we've seen it worldwide with multiple points of reference. What exactly do you think the government is hiding? What do you need so badly you need to let the bias run blue through your stories? Provincial governments are doing their job.
acoyne No kidding. They failed at ‘If we shut the borders down, Canadians will be labeled racist’ two months ago. JustinTrudeau and Tam can f o for all I care. COVIDIOTS
alexboulerice He is not a leader in crises...Not at all! But he tried...
You’re becoming birdcage liner.👎🏻
The article makes some solid points but the headline is misleading. Along with the shadowy Trudeau face, it makes it seem as though there is a sinister cover-up. I believe that we need absolute transparency but it would be dangerous to release misleading data
The has crossed over from dull conservative pedantry to active right-wing clickbaitery, joining CBCNews and CBCPolitics in dismembering the best country in the world for the sake of ratings. FuckCBC FuckGlobeAndMail CDNPoli
acoyne
As soon as they tell Canadians that we’re doing a good job by staying in. GUARANTEED thousands of people start relaxing on their distancing and self isolation and we see a huge spike comparable to the states.
Oh, no more fake SNC Lavalin articles to print?
A Con paper, no suprise!
Just read this article. How do I cancel my Globe and Mail subscription? I don't want shit like this.
this is a disgraceful, deceitful headline for canada's supposed 'newspaper of record'.
Garbage News
Stop already! Report facts! This is irresponsible. Many lives are at risk. You guys suck.
The globe 'reporters' should reread the story of Icarus and maybe raise their bar.
Time to break up corporate media .
Canadians need to stay focused on what is important right now ♥️🇨🇦♥️
People lost their marbles at the start of this without any info. What do you think they will do once we find out the bad news?
Rag sheet keeps Canadians in the dark about who is funding their right wing propaganda
Resign!
Why add what can only be supposition into the anxiety mix ? They are waiting to put together all the data the provincial health agencies have gathered rather than rush into a Trumpian debacle.
How the fuck could JT know these answers? Not a living soul knows.
Any person in Canada right now who is concerned about the numbers are FOOLS!!! Would not believe what they told us anyways al lies !!
Are you guys for real? How about doing some actual journalism...?
No one knows how this is going to end as it is an extraordinary global crisis, unprecedented in our lifetime, but you want the feds to SPECULATE publicly. Perhaps you should consult a soothsayer.
Oh shut up.
Guess you have nothing good to offer during this unprecedented time.
The numbers the feds need come from the provinces. And Ontario is slow in providing the numbers. PMJT is not going to criticize Premier Ford at this time, and there you have it.
Stop it. Every person of reasonable intelligence knows these predictions can’t be made. You are part of the problem with this bullshit.
Don't need to read your trush, to know the potential impact of catastrophe,, 🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹
Irresponsible. These models are predicated on public behaviour, but announcing them prematurely and/or with inaccurate info can markedly affect that behaviour, possibly for the worse. Their caution is understandable. None of that changes what people SHOULD be doing, regardless.
Am I missing something here? Will knowing the potential impact make COVID19 go away faster?
Sensational headline. Does it really reflect the story? It's not a coverup.
Because WE AINT READY to hear the number. SocialDistanacing
What's wrong with you people
Ah, the Glib and Male, frustrated they can't splash scary numbers across people's screens with their sweaty little paws.
Just waiting to see how many CON(servative/federate) bots come out of the woodwork on this one. Does anyone have a crystal ball or good estimate? Here's one
Not at all!
How the fuck can you be in the dark? 😂😂
I trust our leaders - no matter what political stripe...are working long and hard hours to try and navigate this while trying to deal with the fallout of your negative and irresponsible reporting. This is a very stressful time for all humans - why dont you try being constructive?
And Canadian media had the audacity to criticize Trump for closing off flights from infected areas.
Your paper is garbage
FFS G&M.
Not true and you know it! Not what Canadians need right now
What a ridiculous headline
No no and no to these headlines!! Absurd and alarming without any base!!! Research! Research
So this is what happens when there’s only one story. Bad headline on a dubious story = not at all helpful.
I guess you prefer the briefing “it’s just like the flu, bro”
I will never read the Globe and Mail again. So tired of this bullshit. STOP the sensationaliy. STOP the lying. I will block G&M in every newsfeed and do the same with every other greasy outlet. It's time to start suing outlets for this garbage.
In the dark? You mean that this virus can kill you or those you love? StayTheFHome
TrudeauLiedPeopleDied JustinTrudeau you're the worse human being I've ever seen in my life and I hope karma of what you did to canadians gets you .
Sometimes it is better to stay in the dark
Does anyone not understand the worst case scenario?
What? I went on to our website today after PM told the whole world about it, and he’s correct in saying that modelling completely depends on what we do hour by hour. We clearly all know the potentials
This is nonsense. Shame on you, Globe.
Irresponsible headline.
This is a very stupid take no one knows is the real answer. No one knows. So you prefer the prime minister say that or you'd prefer that he give data and then risk being wrong? Cause no one really knows. The news isn't fake, the news is lazy.
Sit tight, they're still calculating the idiot quotient. Once they know how often 37 million people are staying home, social distancing and washing their hands, they're gonna whip out a kick-ass bar graph.
What does it matter It’s bad.
The PM speaks to Canadians daily reminding them just how bad the situation is, and what the gov is doing to help. He's literally brought the economy to halt to try to stop the spread of the virus. At this point if you're still 'in the dark', then nothing can show you the light!
Did you not watch the briefing... you guys are becoming the Canadian Fox News
From PattyHajdu: waiting for data from provinces, they've provided the portals to get all the data, feeding into modelers, each scenario different measures. Eg number of deaths, infection rates, measures taken, how applied, hospitalized, ICU, etc but the work IS being done.
You are poison
You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth! Lol I am a conservative rig hand. I am not a fan of Liberals. The word causes a sour taste in my mouth. He’s doing a good job! Good hustle Trudeau! Say something to ur folllowers! They are a flighty unpredictable bunch!
I need advice..should I visit Service Ontario to register a spousal vehicle transfer that can’t be done online.? I’m a senior with no relevant medical problems. I intend to wear a mask and gloves. Too risky? Are there distance markers inside?
You guys do realize that there isn't enough data? PM Trudeau doesn't have a crystal ball & not enough people in Canada have been tested to give accurate results. Ontario has only tested health care workers and people who are ADMITTED to the hospital.
Bull crap FearMongering
Try some responsible journalism. Use your platform to inform and promote physical distancing. The world is all in this together. Be glad you are in THIS country.
Nonsense! You're trying to stir the pot. Stop lying.
Please put some thought into developing substantive journalism. For example, what is the best role for the opposition parties to play in this situation?
Please tell me no one will pay attention to whatever bullshit they come out with. These are the same people who got you into this mess in the first place. China was a disaster in January and they didn't see it. They have no clue what they are doing.
Seriously, are people that stupid, that you need this headline? Or is it just a piece to fuel hate?
Here’s the only projection that can be stated with absolute certainty. The population of Canada is 37.59 million people. This virus might kill every one of them. Any other projection is mere speculation and depends largely on how Canadians behave. SocialDistancing
Now I know why I don't buy the globeandmail.
Wow. What a disgrace this paper has become. Actively undermining the government during the worst crisis the world has faced in almost 80 years with CPC talking points and spin. You are doing a disservice to your readers and all Canadians.
Let's talk about fordnation dropping the ball, and saying hell ya go on spring break, enjoy life, This is a hoax. How about we talk about that. I am sure The PMJT would LOVE to throw Ford under the bus. But he won't, he will help the fucktard fix it. Want a national projection ?
Panics
If Trudeau smart enough, Canada should use its abundant sources such as grains and ethanol to exchange protectives with Taiwan and China. There is a rice and grains shortage looming in the world, especially in those populous countries. Australia has already been doing so.
Enough of this fearmongering. You are better than this.
Here.... Somebody did the math for ya.
Nah
Just report the news! That should be easy enough at this time no? We're all hearing about one breaking news cycle for weeks now. Once the ready we all will get it 🗣️ in the meantime try a measuredapproach
Um...it's bad. Wash your hands, stay inside! Do you not listen? 🤦♀️
Is today's information and numbers the same as last week's? No. Are today's numbers the same as Monday's? No. Will today's numbers be the same next week. No. Is every province the same? No. Why don't we give the PM a Magic 8 Ball to answer these insipid questions.
hs88_hs88 Another article just now.
You will see them. Stop being so dramatic with your so called journalism.
BS rag - no wonder I have refused to read or buy this pathetic con supporter.
Typical Globe bullshit. Attack Trudeau and Quebec (whether they deserve it or not), praise Philpott and Doug Ford. But then again, the Globe also believes that Canada ends at Halifax, which is why they don't distribute it in NL anymore.
Trudeau was not transparent in his first term! Why would he be transparent in his second? I don’t trust him to handle this crisis. Ford is showing how to be a leader in times like this!
The globe and mail is not helping. How do you to tell the public something that is changing all the time. The progress of this virus goes depends on Canadians and their ability to follow guidelines..Stay home, stay safe and curtail the virus. That is what you should be printing.
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why is RW Media soooo obsessed with the number of dead Canadians.
This whole line of attack is to go after the Prime Minister. The Conservatives and their supporters can’t stand how well he is polling. This is about them and not the “needs” of Canadians.
This is garbage, anyway would everyone THEN adopt proper behaviour and protocols, hardly.
You really just need to fold at this point.
This is pure bullshit sensationalism...is there not a single legit journalist on staff ffs
TrudeauMustGo
Dear , you need better journalists.
Light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks.... MariekeWalsh wants the models and wants them now! Who cares if they will be inaccurate and not helpful.
Did a National newspaper that is considered to be journalism not a partisan rag actually print this headline? How far have they fallen?
How long have you been in the pocket of the CONS?
We as Canadians are far behind on the testing/quarantining strategy that was successful in South Korea - it is the untold story from our media - I’m a fan of JustinTrudeau/ but this will be the story of our failure in the text books of our future.
Why such misleading headlines and articles? I guess we’re lucky that this is the extent of what we can find to complain about, but come on!
What utter horseshit. If this is what you are posting, I might as well cancel my subscription. Do better. Much better
Boo Globe and Mail!! Find a way to help! Not throw gas on this crazy situation!! Please.
Bullshit - this tweet and your rag
Kept us in the dark - how, exactly? There is no playbook for this, no scripts to follow. Unfortunately, we are playing defence until such time as things like tests are available to all, and the data from those tests can THEN be used in projections. But it’s pretty clear to all.
Get a real job, “ladies”
Garbage ☝🏻
Ridiculous and irresponsible headline. The PM does not want to cause panic and is gathering all the necessary data.
okay lets cancel that subscription…. did you get bought by Fox?
What a trash “newspaper” you work for
Shame on you for spreading fear...
yousuck
So if the government gave a predicted numbers what you will do about them If the numbers go higher because ofpeople careless you will blame the PM for that,and if the numbers were lower you will accuse him of scaring people 😡😡
Sure, let him get his Crystal Ball. Experts and scientists across the globe trying to address the pandemic; what we can predict that it's still unpredictable....
Maybe a good idea. For now.
Welcome to Peoplekindland! It’s ran by Liberal morons!
Obviously it's because the impact is unfathomable.
Ooops make that March 19th... me bad
The fraud is in over his head, the virus will balance itself..
You mean this unprecedented, world-wide, life-habit-altering event doesn't have ready-made powerpoint briefings and pamphlets available to hand out? I'm shocked. Better to have general guidelines while the real data is still being gathered.
Well in a democracy where the people pay government officials salaries to represent them with vigor to better the country, obviously it’s the governments information to decide what they decide to do with isn’t it? Or is that a dictatorship, I forget?
The numbers for the US are weird. For the amount of deaths there should be almost 1 million people infected. Must be a different strain. I was able to predict until march 25th then the numbers went sideways
If you need some numbers. My model has been correct since Feb 19 for Canada and the US. By tomorrow night or early morning the next day in Canada. 12869 Infected, 148 for total who have passed, 1879 recovered total. most likely 3850 total in critical care US 282,000 infected
I wonder if we should even believe on their prediction model? By those standards , risk in Canada is low - statements - wouldnt be shoved down our throats. Reality is , no one knows which way this thing is going and it’s one day at a time. Period.
Damn libs hiding their crystal ball from the country again!
Because he doesn't know, you twit.
Get your facts The PM. JustinTrudeau announced they are gathering data from the Provinces first to ensure they release accurate information. Most unfortunate media seems to be more of a problem than a solution these days.
The Canadian government has kept us in the dark for weeks. But instead of holding them to account, you guys have been picking apart every single letter of Trump's daily press conferences. If only Trudeau would be as transparent as Trump. FakeNewsMedia FakeNewsAlert
Yes they are!! If I could tell all I wanted to say and somebody to hear me!! I keep saying wear a mask and gloves since end of February! Don't follow what you are told not to worry!! Is a disgrace -ppl die+ppl suffering = disaster for our Canada!!
The reality won’t live up to the panic, is what they should be worried about
Stop feeding fear into Canadians. Behave yourselves!!!
All governments will use this pandemic to keep us in the dark on a lot of things they're doing behind the scenes. Remain politically aware otherwise we will start to see a chipping away of our democratic system.
Or Canadians aren’t all self isolating so they can’t get an accurate picture. Don’t be a crap journalist.
No he is not. He is being careful to not put inaccurate models like the US did. They are relying on accurate info shared from the Provinces which are still lagging behind.
Just how do you suppose they are doing that? They know? Dolt
Be patient. The rest of us are as we sit around in our homes.
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