‘It just doesn’t process’: China refuses to believe Canada’s legal system is independent, experts say

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The public stance of Chinese leaders is that the courts in Canada are much as they are in China: a pliable tool of the central government that can be manipulated

The decision released Wednesday in the Meng Wanzhou extradition case had the usual hallmarks of a Canadian judicial ruling: a bone-dry analysis of the law, the facts and how one should be applied to the other.

Whatever they might privately believe, the public stance of Chinese Communist Party leaders is that the courts in Canada are much as they are in China: a pliable tool of the central government that can be manipulated when necessary, say China hands. Indeed, as Justice Heather Holmes readied the judgment on Tuesday in her B.C. Supreme Court chambers, a prominent Chinese official suggested the decision would be the product of the Canadian government, not a lone judge.

It is the kind of case that routinely unfolds in Canada. But Meng’s arrest in December 2018 infuriated China and led to what are widely viewed as retaliatory measures, including the imprisoning on vague spying charges of Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig. “China doesn’t work quite the same way and seem to understand that we do have an independent judiciary,” he said.

The assumption that courts will toe the party line on important issues is applied to other countries, too, argued Charles Burton, a former diplomat in Beijing.

 

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The criminal out-crying the victim!

Because they bought the liberals they think they own the justice system. That's what the confusion is about.

Who gives a shit about Fascist China! They want to take over the world, and they r!

China needs to be treated like North Korea close the embassy, no trade, no relations, no travel, no cooperation, no Diplomatic relations or immigration, rogue states need to be treated as such. boycottchinesegoods buycanadian selfsufficiance selfreliance canadafirst

If it were up to Trudeau he’d have one of his planes escort her home. Maybe there is hope for our system.

Jody W-R doesn’t believe it either.

China is evil, but they can't be blamed for assuming that Trudeau, who wields dictatorial powers in so many ways, can't exercise power in this way. They know about JWR, so they know that Justin ain't shy about interfering with the judicial process.

Then they are stupid

For those who could say China does not know justice and freedom, just remember you have to deeply study the system to destroy it.

That maybe because they are unaware of what a legal system means

It’s because Trudeau has told them and shown them otherwise.

Because it is not. Trudeau proved that with the Lavalin fiasco.

They need to learn how to spell the word 'Democracy', in plain English.

sarcasm China is the safest country in the world thanks to its legal system! Request for a fair trial? Straight to jail. Question the greatest judicial system of the greatest country? Straight to jail. Court’s ruling differs from the Communist Party’s script?

Nothing about china processes these days. Fuck right off

Either did Stephen Harper. So what’s your point?

China knows a corrupt system when it sees one!!

The law is political ...always has been. Always will be

Tru;deau does just what Tru;deau wants, unless he is in a position that would damage the US. I’m sure POTUS gave him a clear altimatim; “follow the LAW or the US will make JT’s life hell” Thank goodness POTUS won’t submit to China. I hope China veto’s JT’s bid for UN SC seat.

Coming from the CCP, that isn't saying much....

China criticizing another country’s legal system? Seriously?

They arent wrong..2mil firearms owners, Adm Norman, SNC Lavalin...the list is longer but you get the idea.

We have a PM who is guilty of obstruction of justice, so it's true.

For once I agree with China.

She’s got that same smug look that Trudeau has.

Ie they are surprised their threats and strong arm tactics did not make us bow to them

Trudeau is now beholding to his communist overlords. The Liberals heads must be exploding, trying to figure out what lie will make everyone forget their previous sins. Hey Justin, maybe it's time to cut cheques to the justice system too (wink wink ,nudge nudge! )

*coughs* SNC Lavalin

Yep, Canada’s justice system and government are corrupt

Oh dont worry We will make sure she get out Little Potato is on the case

China should try it out.

Who gives a flying F what China thinks of Canada’s justice system?

Who gives a F what China thinks

Why should they? It’s been proven it’s not.

It is, if it does not involve the PM.

SNC Lavalin, Marc Norman...frankly, China is correct on this one.

Why would they? Their frame of reference is their own system!

Seems like a reasonable belief under Justin....

Well, someone lead them to believe this. At least up until Apr 2, 2019. Can't fault them for the mixed signals.

Well as long as they are as independent as our independent Senators.

Eff China.

Sure. Act surprised.

The criminal code can be changed by an act of parliament any time.

This is a wee bit scary for Canada

If it wasn’t for the boy wonder trying to influence the SNC sh!t show I’d disagree with China.

China doesn't believe Canada's legal system is independent because China wouldn't recognize an independent legal system if it tripped over it

I will help vote out anyone that even considers this company for 5G. I can guarantee I’m not alone. China is not welcome here.

1939repeated I’m sure China’s legal system is real independent from the state. Bunch of hypocrites.

Dear China, Canada is a free, civilized country. That’s why many of your citizens move here for a better life. Please release those Canadian hostages.

“Pot calling kettle”. HELLO, HELLO!!!

Really a communist country says that, well we are going towards communism with JT anyhow.

They're confused with the media.

To be Fair If You Ignore Blatant Obstruction of Justice & Bullying, Threatening, Smearing and Firing the 1st Female Aboriginal AG in Canadian History It's Sorta Independent LittlePotato 🥔 PeterPanPM 🎈🤪🤡🧦 MagicKingdom

How about China give the prisoners from Canada the same style of confinement this woman is enjoying in Canada?

China has a big mouth but a small dick. I imagine they're going to show the world exactly what kind of a kindergarten society they really are

Maybe they should do some reading. We don't let politicians dictate to the legal system. China could learn a few things.

Let's use our own amazing natural resources to be the richest country in the world and stop worrying about anyone who tries to stop us.

well jokingly the legal system dosnt belong to china as china thought. conspiracys of shadow courts in manitoba lurk about. not sure what china was thinking of doing with a near copy of the canadian system in a separate databank

Pack her up and send her south! How much has this cost CND taxpayers?

Maybe that’s because of the Trudeau SNC Lavalin controversy.

It really hasn’t been under the Trudeau regime. The only reason they haven’t found a way to let her go is because the only person Trudeau is more afraid of then Xi Jinping is Donald J. Trump.

When Chrétien and Goodale give China another story, and Trudeau interferes in SNC... it’s no wonder China thinks our legal system can be manipulated.

Why is she still in Canada, she should be in US by now.

The Minister of Justice has significant discretion once this gets to his desk (and even before). That's where this is heading.

Because Trudeau snuck in legislation for SNC Lavelin, attempted to strong arm the prosecutorial service and sacked an A-g who dared to stand up to him?

Umm, it’s not with a Liberal at the helm? Ask Jody Wilson-Raybould and the RCMP?

This is the cost of the of Trudeau's interference in the SNC-Lavalin affair. Is it any wonder that the Chinese believe that Canada's judicial system can be politically influenced. Thank goodness for the few strong women that protected our system from the lawless like our PM.

They've been showed it isn't thanks to SNC, why the disbelief they cant process this...?

why should China believe Canada? the same country that treats long term care citizens like crap is complaining about human rights violations in China... yeah, you think you might have a credibility issue?

Because it isn’t. snc

UNREAL...

What does China know about independent legal system

SNC Lavalin. They were paying attention.

Oh God. Who is gonna buy houses in Vancouver and Toronto now. It's a good thing there are tons of good paying jobs in the energy sector and Google is looking to expand in Toronto.

Why would a Communist totalitarian government not understand due process? Sheesh CCP China, get with it!

Yeah...I wonder of this would have anything to do with a so called prime minister called JustinTrudeau?

Blackface would let her go if he could so why does China think he would interfearcance with the justice system? Oh right they read about SNC Lavelin

After watching the SNC and Norman fiascos, why would they?

They know exactly what we stand for legally, they just don’t like it.

China is a bully. At this very moment China is exercising a significantly large political and economic subversion campaign. This includes using money, power, and other means, to influence policy makers, news media actors, and economic actors. Be warned, CCP LIES.

China can go and suck it but God I hope that our justice system does cave in to pressure from China. Do we really want to be China’s bitch or are we already?

Well since we always look the other way when America does crap of course they would. The West backs the West.

They refuse to believe in universal values too.

its china. wat do u expect

And yet they expect us to believe Hong Kong is autonomous. China is an enemy of the west.

'World refuses to believe anything from China' There, fixed it lol

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