Countries across the world are tracking their citizens' phones to try to deal with the new coronavirus. Should Canada?
Countries across the world are tracking their citizens to try to deal with the new coronavirus. Should Canada?, saying he “made it sound like it was happening, not knowing it wasn’t happening.” Surveillance could take a number of different forms, some more intrusive than others, Fisman says. “Where it gets uncomfortable is when people start talking about — and this is stuff that they’re talking about in Taiwan and Israel — where you’re using phones basically as ankle bracelets that you’d put on someone who is on house arrest,” he says. “You’re following that individual’s movement — say Bob’s supposed to be on quarantine, but Bob just went down the block to get some milk. Let’s go talk to Bob. “I think most of us feel fairly uncomfortable with that level of granularity, which in a sense is absurd, because we’re giving this data to Apple and Google and Strava and whoever else all the time.” 2:08 Coronavirus: How to social distance in taxis and rideshare vehicles Coronavirus: How to social distance in taxis and rideshare vehicles On the other hand, more anonymized data that just showed areas were people were gathering might be an acceptable tradeoff. Story continues below advertisement “You can get a sense of how much person-to-person contact there is in a population just based on these phones being in proximity to each other,” he says. Anonymized U.S. phone data, for example, shows that people in states that have a visible problem with the new coronavirus are more likely to have limited their movements , for example. Fisman points to a pattern in history in which societies are talked into accepting a loss of privacy or freedom to deal with a crisis, only to see their liberties not return when the crisis ends. “People are scared, so they give up their rights, and those rights don’t come back. It’s a pretty old trick.” View link » Provinces could probably use emergency laws to order telecommunications companies to hand over user data, Carleton University lecturer Leah West said on a recent podcast. But that would be subject to challenge in the courts. “You could potentially say that they could create some sort of massive order that would require telcos to hand over their data. But I think that that would be really susceptible to a challenge as not being proportionate or necessary to manage this crisis.” But at the federal level, Canada’s federal Emergencies Act, passed in 1988, doesn’t provide for the collection of personal data in this kind of emergency. Story continues below advertisement “In the context of a public welfare emergency, (there is an) enumerated list of things that the government can make orders and regulations about. Surveillance is not one of them. That would be different if we’re talking about a different type of emergency,” she said. 1:16 Leaked SHA document shows worst-case scenario outcome of coronavirus in Sask. Leaked SHA document shows worst-case scenario outcome of coronavirus in Sask. “(Amending the law) would, I think, be the only way that this kind of tracking, using that data or personal information from either Facebook, Google or wherever could ever be implemented in Canada.” There are sometimes said to be no atheists in a foxhole. Our times may test whether there are privacy advocates in a lethal epidemic. “Emergency law can actually be quite dangerous,” cautioned Carleton professor Stephanie Carvin on the same podcast. “There are many states on the face of this planet who have been in persistent states of emergency for some time. Usually political emergencies, and it could be very corrosive of civil liberties and rights. “And of course, there isn’t much appetite right now, perhaps, in the broader public to talk about civil liberties and rights.” Read more: Globalnews.ca
Stupidity is everywhere. Be clean and keep things clean! That is the key in this fight against COD-19. Jus check pictures or videos about streets and beaches in China, all cover with gloves and masks. Yes Canada should track their cell phones! This is a national pandemic and travellers are clearly not paying attention! Canada needs to be tough with its citizens! No more soft peddling in case their feelings get hurt! Thank you Minister Patti Hajdu!
With our tinpot dictator how do we know that it isn't already being used for other nefarious means? Actually that is a question for the foreign media as we know that the MSM in Canada does suppress news on behalf of PMJT. Absolutely not Absolutely not. Who didn't already think they have been this Duh!!!!!
Already most apps know your complete route during the day. What has changed? No Yes If at this day and age you assume you have digital privacy, you are sadly mistaken. Find something else to complain about. This is old news. NEXT!
Social distancing is crucial, but Canada also needs more coronavirus testing: experts“You can’t win a football game by defending, you have to attack as well,” said WHO director-general Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing I'm going to question the logic behind spending resources on excessive testing. Treat mild flu symptoms as COVID19 and isolate for the required time. If as I've heard 20-30% of cases will require medical attention focus resources on them & use their numbers as a predictor Expand testing. With knowing how severe the situation is, people will be more responsible to keep social distancing.
Have they ever stopped should be the real question. Yeah..it's just a matter of when they will just admit it..though I think Toronto? May have this openly know already..correct me if I am wrong I realize that BlackFaceTrudeau is in love with China and its dictatorship, but HELL NO!! No way should we allow our government to track our movement. We still have rights here..until we give them away to idiots like the PM of Canada cdnpoli
Let me see... we have 28 deaths and a 0.9% death rate. In one year we have 70X more deaths from car accidents than we have had with this so far. So no, it shouldn’t even be a thought. No.. That infringes on our human rights. Keep communism out of Canada When did the US become targets for this? Hard to do in ontarioshutdown ..... most of us still working.
Yes I assumed they already were. At least if it's official, there's better transparency and more reliable follow up
We’re still tackling COVID-19, which means it’s no time for half-measures or abandoning the fight Coronavirus has a foothold in communities across Canada now. We can’t stop it from spreading, but we can slow it down the color red would be much more effective!
“People are scared, so they give up their rights, and those rights don’t come back. It’s a pretty old trick.” Enough said... if you want any slim chance of ever being re-elected liberal_party JustinTrudeau you best stay the fack away from tracking Canadians Soft release We are being conditioned Same I’ll cancel my family’s cellphones and go back to land line government ain’t tracking my family , we all know this is more than just tracking the virus get bent 😂
Yes No. HellNo Yes! Don't really see why we seem to have an abundance of people out and about self monitoring the situation on social media.. Seems irony is something we need to work on as well Yes Yes what ever it takes. Think they already are.
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what happens after they track you and see you in wrong place - cops swoop in? alarm goes off and tells you to go home and you ignore it? too big brother for me Yes I don't get it... all you'd have to do to circumvent it is leave your phone at home. Just to let people know they have had this tech for over a decade now. Why do think batteries are built into phone's now
Um, they already do this. At least depending on the app you have. Like this one we are all using currently. Yes, desperate time justifies extreme majors Nope No, they should not. Also, if they do. Just leave your phone at home. I don't think this is much of a question but a statement for what's about to come.
Not sure how I feel about it but if I have to yell at another person to keep their distance from my while I’m helping my mom or dad shop I’ll end up in jail. Social distance = 6 feet away
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🤣🤣🤣🤣my android stays home Oh please. people are willing to risk other people's health and return from abroad ill so maybe there needs to be some kind of push back from people's skirting of rules. I'm not sure surveillance is the best solution though
National parks, historic sites to be closed to vehicle traffic to contain coronavirus spreadParks Canada said it’s still noticing lots of visitors despite suspension of services and facility closures last week Just shut down all non-essential business and travel already. OMG death by a thousand needles is not helping anybody. Lead and do what needs to be done. Yeah? So how are folks going to be able to travel between AB and BC? Go through Dawson City or Sparwood? How about folks in Tofino being able to get out of town? I guess Banff will be evacuated? To where, along with Jasper?
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