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5/05/2020 9:02:00 AM

Paramedics' decision to leave woman who refused treatment questioned by coroner

Coroner, Kim Szemes

Paramedics' decision to leave woman who refused treatment questioned by coroner

Ambulance paramedics left a woman with a history of mental illness alone in her home without electricity, hot water or lighting before she was found dead months later, in a move a coroner said was 'difficult to understand.'

Key points:Neighbours called police for a welfare check after not seeing 59yo Kim Szemes for weeks in May 2018Police attended, followed by paramedics, who despite noting her as being "incoherent", left after Ms Szemes refused treatmentThe coroner said there was no indication paramedics considered Ms Szemes may have lacked the capacity to make an informed decision to refuse treatment

Coroner Simon Cooper has handed down his assessment of the 2018 death of 59-year-old Rosetta woman Kim Szemes, finding she died between 28 May and 8 October 2018.Mr Cooper found a cause of death could not be determined due to the advanced level of decomposition of the body when it was found.

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If you can't convince them to go to hospital, legally they cannot be taken against their will. This is terrifying. This generations loss of common sense is the reason. PC and Nanny State rules . Legal system corrupt, fear of litigation. Lots of people with serious metal illness refuse treatment. Don't blame it on the paramedics. They also become very violent if they have not taken their medications.

I don't know what's worse. The paramedics leaving her or her family/son not trying to contact her between May and when he visited in October. Maybe the coroner could ask Jeff Kennet why he shut down the mental hospitals where specialist care was given to those unable to cope with living in society? This is a failure of politicians not ambo's.

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Key points: Neighbours called police for a welfare check after not seeing 59yo Kim Szemes for weeks in May 2018 Police attended, followed by paramedics, who despite noting her as being "incoherent", left after Ms Szemes refused treatment The coroner said there was no indication paramedics considered Ms Szemes may have lacked the capacity to make an informed decision to refuse treatment Coroner Simon Cooper has handed down his assessment of the 2018 death of 59-year-old Rosetta woman Kim Szemes, finding she died between 28 May and 8 October 2018. Mr Cooper found a cause of death could not be determined due to the advanced level of decomposition of the body when it was found. Need an interpreter? Phone the Translating and Interpreting Service on 131 450 and tell them your language. According to the report, neighbours of Ms Szemes called police to perform a welfare check on May 28, after not seeing her for several weeks. “I think it’s important to understand that New Zealand is still our second biggest market, in fact it’s only in the last 12 to 18 months that China beat New Zealand as being our biggest group of inbound,” Ms Osmond said. Police entered the residence through a window, finding Ms Szemes in bed wearing a beanie and covered in blankets in an attempt to keep warm. The National Cabinet will meet with New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today to discuss whether opening a travel route between the countries during the pandemic is an option. They noted she was "incoherent and struggling to speak," and called for an ambulance. "I do want to moderate expectations, but the fact that we are in a position as countries to even have this conversation is a huge advantage for both of us.

Police left after paramedics arrived, on the understanding that Ms Szemes would be transferred to the Royal Hobart Hospital. "It would mean ensuring that we have the appropriate quarantine arrangements here in Hobart, but I think direct flights are certainly something that we can consider," he said. Favourite. Instead, paramedics later left Ms Szemes alone in bed because she asked them to leave — despite a lack of electricity, hot water or lighting, the fact that Ms Szemes was difficult to understand and repeating sentences, had minimal fluid intake in recent days, and was unable to tell paramedics how or when she washed, Mr Cooper noted. Body discovered by son The Ambulance Tasmania case description showed attending paramedics recorded that Ms Szemes' behaviour was "bizarre," her responses "inappropriate," facial expressions were "flat and non-responsive," and her speech content was "bizarre/irrational with repetitive questions/statements and an inability to have a coherent conversation"." Direct flights between Hobart and New Zealand have not operated since the late 1990s. Coroner Cooper wrote that because of those observations, it was "difficult to understand" why paramedics then left. He said nothing in the Ambulance Tasmania records indicated the paramedics considered whether Ms Szemes had the capacity to make an informed decision to refuse treatment. "This is not going to happen tomorrow, it's not going to happen next week, but as we work our way through the course of this calendar year, if the opportunity arises … if we have confidence we can have flights … then that's an opportunity that we can look at, and one that I'm looking to pursue," he said. Prime Minister Scott Morrison extended the invitation to his Kiwi counterpart after a phone conversation last week.

There was no evidence anyone else saw Ms Szemes alive after the paramedics left that evening. Months later, in October, Ms Szemes' son Paul arrived in Tasmania to attend a friend's birthday party and visited his mother's house three times over three days without being able to contact her." When asked if he feared Australians would choose to visit international destinations instead of domestic ones such as Tasmania, Mr Gutwein said the state had one of "the strongest tourism brands anywhere in the world". On the third visit, he forced entry to the home and found his mother lying on her bedroom floor. "Police and paramedics from Ambulance Tasmania attended. Direct flights would only resume if both locations had enough coronavirus safeguards, Mr Gutwein said. Ms Szemes was very obviously deceased and very badly decomposed.

No efforts were made to resuscitate her," the coroner's report said. Coroner Cooper found Ms Szemes died between 28 May and 8 October 2018, and that it was likely she died closer to May than October due to the state of her body when it was found. He did not make any comments or recommendations. Ambulance Tasmania has been contacted for comment. Posted .